Whistleblower Has Been Backed Up By Multiple Witnesses

[keepthefaith]

5 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

He wasn’t just working in US interest to get rid of that Kremlin backed scum bag, but in the interest of the free world, the world bank etc. And that demand was made in our interest, not the political interest of a single person 

 

If he was such a scumbag, why didn't Ukraine fire him without the threat of the money being withheld? 

[Tiberius]

Just now, keepthefaith said:

 

If he was such a scumbag, why didn't Ukraine fire him without the threat of the money being withheld? 

Good question 

5 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

Australia is a part of the FISA abuse investigation. 

 

Has been since 2017. That Barr is talking to them, is not news. 

 

The spin being applied is more proof they're terrified of what's in the report. 

"THIS TIME WE REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, GOT HIM!"

 

(They're literally walking right into a tiger trap of their own making)

The tiger trap! 

[4merper4mer]

6 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

Australia is a part of the FISA abuse investigation. 

 

Has been since 2017. That Barr is talking to them, is not news. 

 

The spin being applied is more proof they're terrified of what's in the report. 

"THIS TIME WE REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, GOT HIM!"

 

(They're literally walking right into a tiger trap of their own making)

It'll spring on the 12th

[SoCal Deek]

19 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

He wasn’t just working in US interest to get rid of that Kremlin backed scum bag, but in the interest of the free world, the world bank etc. And that demand was made in our interest, not the political interest of a single person 

So it’s your position that trying to find out if the current polling leader (as you regularly cite) is actually on the take for his own family members isn’t in the best interest of the nation? Really? This gives don’t ask, don’t tell a whole new meaning. Hilarious Tibs!

[Tiberius]

Just now, SoCal Deek said:

So it’s your position that trying to find out if the current polling leader (as you regularly cite) is actually on the take for his own family members isn’t in the best interest of the nation? Really? This gives don’t ask, don’t tell a whole new meaning. Hilarious Tibs!

Oh, find out whatever you can, legally. But extorting foreign powers is wrong, illegal and unAmerican. 

 

[Doc]

3 hours ago, John Adams said:

He had his personal attorney doing the work before that, and he was leveraging aid on the call. 

 

But you knew both of those things already. 

 

Link?

[Kemp]

5 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

So it’s your position that trying to find out if the current polling leader (as you regularly cite) is actually on the take for his own family members isn’t in the best interest of the nation? Really? This gives don’t ask, don’t tell a whole new meaning. Hilarious Tibs!

 

Biden investigation deemed him innocent. For argument's sake, let's say that conclusion is wrong.

 

It doesn't change the irrefutable fact that Trump has now been shown to have committed multiple impeachable acts. Today shows that Pompeo either turns on Trump or goes down, too.

 

Rudy is in even more trouble.

 

Now, Barr has to decide what to do.

 

Senate Republicans still might not convict, but my guess is that enough of them will turn when they think it is safer to turn than not.

 

Only the willfully ignorant and traitors will be left supporting Trump when the dust settles.

 

My greatest fear is now that Trump will do literally anything to stay in power. Perhaps starting a war with Iran?

[Deranged Rhino]

 

[Deranged Rhino]

Just now, Kemp said:

 

Biden investigation deemed him innocent. For argument's sake, let's say that conclusion is wrong.

 

There was no investigation. You're already wrong/pushing false information. 

 

Just now, Kemp said:

It doesn't change the irrefutable fact that Trump has now been shown to have committed multiple impeachable acts. Today shows that Pompeo either turns on Trump or goes down, too.

 

This is nonsense. Impeachment is a political affair, they can impeach for anything they wish. 

 

There's no evidence of illegal acts. And Pompeo is not in danger  

 

1 minute ago, Kemp said:

Rudy is in even more trouble.

 

What law did Rudy break again?

 

2 minutes ago, Kemp said:

Now, Barr has to decide what to do.

 

Barr will keep doing what he's been doing. Investigating the coup. 

 

2 minutes ago, Kemp said:

Senate Republicans still might not convict, but my guess is that enough of them will turn when they think it is safer to turn than not.

 

 

 

Never gonna happen. 

 

2 minutes ago, Kemp said:

Only the willfully ignorant and traitors will be left supporting Trump when the dust settles.

 

2016: "HE COLLUDED WITH RUSSIA! HE'S A TRAITOR!"

2017: "Mueller's coming! JUST WAIT! THAT'LL GET HIM!"

2018: "Trump's REALLY done now! MUELLER'S COMING!"

2019: "... Forget Mueller -- here comes UKRAINE! THIS TIME WE REALLY REALLY REALLY GOT HIM!"

 

(Aren't you tired of falling for the same story without evidence -- over and over again?)

 

3 minutes ago, Kemp said:

My greatest fear is now that Trump will do literally anything to stay in power. Perhaps starting a war with Iran?

 

You mean, like launching an illegal coup using the FBI, CIA, and powers of the White House to resist the will of the people? 

 

 

...Kinda like the events of 2016 you ignored? 

 

 

 

THIS TIME WE REALLY GOT HIM!  

[Deranged Rhino]

 

The left's plan is transparent to everyone but their fans -- who allowed themselves to be lulled to sleep the past three years. They're in for a very rude awakening. 

[Deranged Rhino]

Edited September 30, 2019 by Deranged Rhino

[Deranged Rhino]

 

[Kemp]

NEW: Attorney General Barr has held private meetings overseas w/ foreign intelligence officials seeking their help in a Justice Department inquiry that Trump hopes will discredit U.S. intel agencies’ examination of Russian interference in the 2016 election
https://t.co/DsQZ2pJ1qa

 

Giuliani takes the lead, but here comes Barr on the outside.

[Deranged Rhino]

7 minutes ago, Kemp said:

NEW: Attorney General Barr has held private meetings overseas w/ foreign intelligence officials seeking their help in a Justice Department inquiry that Trump hopes will discredit U.S. intel agencies’ examination of Russian interference in the 2016 election
https://t.co/DsQZ2pJ1qa

 

Giuliani takes the lead, but here comes Barr on the outside.

 

Welcome to three years ago. 

 

Congrats.  

[TakeYouToTasker]

1 hour ago, Kemp said:

Breaking News: President Trump pushed Australia's prime minister to help Attorney General William Barr in an investigation intended to rebut the Mueller inquiry https://t.co/HNFx7TF5aI

 

The White House has become the primary source of Chubby's issues.

 

 

He’s the President.  It’s his job to do exactly that.

 

He conducts foreign policy, including pressuring other nations leaders to comply with investigations into corruption when that corruption bleeds between international borders.

 

The President doesn’t forfeit this necessary power when the opposition party decides to investigate him, especially when the investigation is manufactured in order to prevent said President from exposing that corruption referenced.

 

Further, running for higher office is not a shield from investigation and prosecution.  Believing that it does is literally an argument in favor of a separate set of laws for the ruling class.

 

It’s all crashing down.  Your whole world is about to burn.

[Kemp]

ICIG says in a new statement that the unnamed CIA whistleblower "had official and authorized access to the information and sources referenced in the Complainant’s Letter and Classified Appendix, including direct knowledge of certain alleged conduct."

https://t.co/iam9ACBGZX https://t.co/0V9aX23W7x

[Foxx]

12 minutes ago, Kemp said:

ICIG says in a new statement that the unnamed CIA whistleblower "had official and authorized access to the information and sources referenced in the Complainant’s Letter and Classified Appendix, including direct knowledge of certain alleged conduct."

https://t.co/iam9ACBGZX https://t.co/0V9aX23W7x

really? why did he have to hear it from second and third hand sources then? maybe he can't read and/or is deaf? 

[Taro T]

20 minutes ago, Kemp said:

ICIG says in a new statement that the unnamed CIA whistleblower "had official and authorized access to the information and sources referenced in the Complainant’s Letter and Classified Appendix, including direct knowledge of certain alleged conduct."

https://t.co/iam9ACBGZX https://t.co/0V9aX23W7x

ICIG says whistle-blower checked off on form that he / she had 1st hand info and also checked off that he / she had 2nd/3rd hand info.

 

ICIG further states that 1st hand info isn't required under the statute and that is why the form was revised.

 

Having read the whistle blower's complaint, really not sure what the 1st hand info was; especially after having read the transcript of the phone call.

[Koko78]

22 minutes ago, Taro T said:

ICIG says whistle-blower checked off on form that he / she had 1st hand info and also checked off that he / she had 2nd/3rd hand info.

 

ICIG further states that 1st hand info isn't required under the statute and that is why the form was revised.

 

Having read the whistle blower's complaint, really not sure what the 1st hand info was; especially after having read the transcript of the phone call.

 

I think the first-hand knowledge part was in the poor retelling of the media articles that the rumor-monger personally read.

[DC Tom]

1 hour ago, Kemp said:

NEW: Attorney General Barr has held private meetings overseas w/ foreign intelligence officials seeking their help in a Justice Department inquiry that Trump hopes will discredit U.S. intel agencies’ examination of Russian interference in the 2016 election
https://t.co/DsQZ2pJ1qa

 

Giuliani takes the lead, but here comes Barr on the outside.

 

Seriously, if your theory is that Trump was using his federal authority to coerce the Ukraine to dig up dirt on Biden, Barr's trip to Australia weakens that by showing there was an investigation far wider than "Biden" and "Ukraine" going on.

 

You all are really too stupid to understand that?  This disproves your theory of the crime.

[SoCal Deek]

2 hours ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

 

He’s the President.  It’s his job to do exactly that.

 

He conducts foreign policy, including pressuring other nations leaders to comply with investigations into corruption when that corruption bleeds between international borders.

 

The President doesn’t forfeit this necessary power when the opposition party decides to investigate him, especially when the investigation is manufactured in order to prevent said President from exposing that corruption referenced.

 

Further, running for higher office is not a shield from investigation and prosecution.  Believing that it does is literally an argument in favor of a separate set of laws for the ruling class.

 

It’s all crashing down.  Your whole world is about to burn.

Thank you! This is better out than I could ever hope to attempt.

 

It’s shocking to see the coup is still going strong even after the total Mueller failure. I can only conclude that the IG’s hounds are circling in for the kill and the Dems are in full panic mode trying to get out ahead of it. 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

2 hours ago, Kemp said:

NEW: Attorney General Barr has held private meetings overseas w/ foreign intelligence officials seeking their help in a Justice Department inquiry that Trump hopes will discredit U.S. intel agencies’ examination of Russian interference in the 2016 election
https://t.co/DsQZ2pJ1qa

 

Giuliani takes the lead, but here comes Barr on the outside.

 

ICYMI:

 

https://www.dailywire.com/news/breaking-letter-from-australian-official-emerges-that-casts-doubt-on-new-york-times-report?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=benshapiro

[SoCal Deek]

I have to ask how many of you on here actually read the short transcript of the phone call? I just did. What in the world is all of this about? The President doesn’t talk about withholding foreign aid. The President talks about the process being conducted through the proper government channels, not some clandestine investigation! This is the biggest bunch of bull$&&t I’ve ever seen and I’m willing to bet that 99.999% of Americans have not read it. Have any of you? It’ll take you less than five minutes!

[Deranged Rhino]

46 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

Seriously, if your theory is that Trump was using his federal authority to coerce the Ukraine to dig up dirt on Biden, Barr's trip to Australia weakens that by showing there was an investigation far wider than "Biden" and "Ukraine" going on.

 

You all are really too stupid to understand that?  This disproves your theory of the crime.

 

It's amazing, isn't it? 

 

They tipped their hand big time with the pivot to Australia (not that it was a well concealed hand to begin with). This isn't really about Biden or 2020 at all, it's about 2016 and they're ***** terrified. 

[DC Tom]

3 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

I have to ask how many of you on here actually read the short transcript of the phone call? I just did. What in the world is all of this about? The President doesn’t talk about withholding foreign aid. The President talks about the process being conducted through the proper government channels, not some clandestine investigation! This is the biggest bunch of bull$&&t I’ve ever seen and I’m willing to bet that 99.999% of Americans have not read it. Have any of you? It’ll take you less than five minutes!

 

What's this about is that they're using the presumption of corruption to prove corruption.

 

At most, it's ambiguous.  I read the transcript, and it sounds just as plausible that Trump is simply changing the subject.

 

And yes, I'd say the same if that were Obama or Clinton on the transcript.  It could be coercion...but it's ridiculous to make an affirmative assertion that it is based solely on the transcript.

1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

It's amazing, isn't it? 

 

They tipped their hand big time with the pivot to Australia (not that it was a well concealed hand to begin with). This isn't really about Biden or 2020 at all, it's about 2016 and they're ***** terrified. 

 

Seriously.  It wasn't a strong case to begin with.  "Australia, too!" is makes it ridiculous.  By what theory is Trump coercing Australia in to digging up Ukrainian dirt on Biden?  

 

Or are we back to "hiding calls on a classified server" again?  Which makes that action much more understandable, if Trump is enlisting allied aid in investigating an intelligence matter concerning the 2016 election - which also explains the ICIG's oversight.

[SoCal Deek]

1 minute ago, DC Tom said:

 

What's this about is that they're using the presumption of corruption to prove corruption.

 

At most, it's ambiguous.  I read the transcript, and it sounds just as plausible that Trump is simply changing the subject.

 

And yes, I'd say the same if that were Obama or Clinton on the transcript.  It could be coercion...but it's ridiculous to make an affirmative assertion that it is based solely on the transcript.

Tom? What corruption? Who’s corruption? Biden is going around bragging that he strong armed the Ukraine and using it as tough guy street cred in his public comments. It’s inappropriate for the current President to ask if the US may have acted inappropriately in the past? How exactly? I thought the Left was all about apologizing for America’s sins. Are we done with that now?

[keepthefaith]

22 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

It’s shocking to see the coup is still going strong even after the total Mueller failure.

 

These folks Pelosi, Schiff, Nadler, Schumer and some others are pure evil along with many in the media.  It's hard to understand how their brand of selfish, power hungry and ideological determination can take such a foothold in this country.  It's truly scary particularly how they're enjoying almost free reign to pursue this.  Elections are the only thing slowing them down and given how much of the electorate is uninformed or uncaring or misguided makes the grasp on the republic very thin. 

[SoCal Deek]

9 minutes ago, keepthefaith said:

 

These folks Pelosi, Schiff, Nadler, Schumer and some others are pure evil along with many in the media.  It's hard to understand how their brand of selfish, power hungry and ideological determination can take such a foothold in this country.  It's truly scary particularly how they're enjoying almost free reign to pursue this.  Elections are the only thing slowing them down and given how much of the electorate is uninformed or uncaring or misguided makes the grasp on the republic very thin. 

There’s less than ZERO chance they’re going into court armed with that phone call transcript as their only proof of a high crime. This will be a failure of legendary proportions.

[DC Tom]

46 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Tom? What corruption? 

 

PRESUMPTION. 

 

"Presumption" is the noun.  "Of corruption" is the adjectival possessive.

 

[3rdnlng]

54 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

PRESUMPTION. 

 

"Presumption" is the noun.  "Of corruption" is the adjectival possessive.

 

Like your speaking with a Californian, Dude. Get over it.

[Deranged Rhino]

posting for the interview

[Buftex]

Just checking in...the story here isn't the fire, it is the fire alarms...got it!   True TDS on display...

Edited October 1, 2019 by Buftex

[Deranged Rhino]

Just now, Buftex said:

Just checking in...the story here isn't the fire, it is the fire alarms...got it! 

 

That's not a very apt analogy for any argument being made in this thread that I've noticed. 

 

The problem absolutely is the fire. 

 

A fire that started long before Trump was in office.

[Doc Brown]

 

???

[Buffalo_Gal]

3 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

posting for the interview

"With the order coming directly from the White House..." 
Rudy saying this ties to Obama? "Obama let this happen. Any honest president would have called him in..."

(paraphrased) Pay for play scheme from Biden and Hillary. (different instances were mentioned, nothing tied together)

"Buying Joe Biden's office."

And Rudy has a point about the Senate leaving this to linger (I do wonder what they are doing... maybe they have a plan?)

And, more on George Soros. 

Rudy is putting this out in public. Not that the media is covering it. 
 

[Buffalo_Gal]

(short thread)
 

 

Deep state tidying up the loose ends 
 

 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

 

[ALF]

Ex-Trump adviser: Trump's situation 'a lot worse' than Nixon's

 

Former adviser to the Trump pre-transition team, J.W. Verret, tells CNN's Brianna Keilar that President Trump's Ukraine controversy is "a lot worse" than that of former president Nixon's.

 

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/09/30/j-w-verret-trump-nixon-impeachment-worse-vpx.cnn/video/playlists/this-week-in-politics/

 

'I realized enough was enough': A law professor and former Trump transition staffer says Congress should impeach Trump

 

George Mason University Law Professor J.W. Verret went viral on Twitter for stating that he supports impeachment after reading the Mueller report. 

Verret, who briefly advised the Trump pre-transition team in 2016, said he viewed the Mueller report as a "tipping point" and the Republican party's current standing by Trump as verging into "a blind devotion that serves to enable

criminal conduct."

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/jw-verret-law-professor-trump-transition-staffer-supports-impeachment-2019-4

Edited October 1, 2019 by ALF

[KRC]

14 hours ago, Kemp said:

 

Biden investigation deemed him innocent.

 

 

If there was an investigation, there would be a report. Please link to the report of those results. Thanks.

[Tiberius]

3 hours ago, ALF said:

Ex-Trump adviser: Trump's situation 'a lot worse' than Nixon's

 

Former adviser to the Trump pre-transition team, J.W. Verret, tells CNN's Brianna Keilar that President Trump's Ukraine controversy is "a lot worse" than that of former president Nixon's.

 

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/09/30/j-w-verret-trump-nixon-impeachment-worse-vpx.cnn/video/playlists/this-week-in-politics/

 

'I realized enough was enough': A law professor and former Trump transition staffer says Congress should impeach Trump

 

George Mason University Law Professor J.W. Verret went viral on Twitter for stating that he supports impeachment after reading the Mueller report. 

Verret, who briefly advised the Trump pre-transition team in 2016, said he viewed the Mueller report as a "tipping point" and the Republican party's current standing by Trump as verging into "a blind devotion that serves to enable

criminal conduct."

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/jw-verret-law-professor-trump-transition-staffer-supports-impeachment-2019-4

It's worse in the fact that it was caught before they could steal the election, whereas Nixon's mob had already committed the crimes and the election was over. Here, the Democrats are literally trying to stop an election from being stolen in the future. 

1 hour ago, KRC said:

 

If there was an investigation, there would be a report. Please link to the report of those results. Thanks.

What crime would they be investigating?