3rdnlng Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 2 hours ago, Albwan said: I have to give it you, at least you came back here today. Has to be tough swallowing this. He has a lot of practice swallowing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6429158/OLC-Memo-on-Urgent-Concern.pdf Trump sitting with the Ukrainian president now at the UN... popcorn ready: This is a 5 page transcript that people can read. It's not the 400 page monster that the Mueller report was that even people who were interested in didn't read. It's pretty clear what happens in the conversation. The new Ukranian President is trying to kiss as much butt as possible to maintain his foreign aide. He even mentions he stayed in Trump Tower in NY. Speaker #1: "Hey buddy, can I get that money you owe me?" Speaker #2: "I need you to do me a favor, though..." In what world does Speaker number 1 NOT view his reception of that money as dependent upon what comes in the ellipses of Speaker #2? Honestly, these twitter interpretations are ridiculous. It's right there. And it's obviously a horrible look for the President. And if there's more stuff like this, which there reportedly is, it's treason and exactly what the founders of our country created the impeachment process for. To paraphrase Brian Shatz today, I'm confused, you think this is good for Trump? Edited September 25, 2019 by transplantbillsfan 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 Just now, transplantbillsfan said: To paraphrase Brian Shatz today, I'm confused, you think this is good for Trump? It's REAL bad for Joe. And the left. 2020 just became a lock. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 25, 2019 Author Share Posted September 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: 2020 just became a lock. What??? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 The hype doled out the past week about this being the end of Trump was proven wrong. You deny this, @transplantbillsfan because you've already made up your mind. You're not objective. You don't read material for yourself. You just latch onto the words of proven liars in the media who promised you for three years that "Mueller was coming" and would "end Trump". They lied to you then. They're lying to you today. Yet, you still believe them. Because you're not a serious person. You'd rather be misinformed and your world views unchallenged than discover the truth. Sucks for you. 2020 will be tougher on you than most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capco Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 It wouldn't be in Zelensky's interest to throw Trump under the bus. That conflict of interest hurts his credibility on this matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Capco said: It wouldn't be in Zelensky's interest to throw Trump under the bus. That conflict of interest hurts his credibility on this matter. And it wouldn't be in the media's best interest to cover this story honestly -- since they had been gaslighting the country for three years about phony claim after phony claim. Works both ways. That's why thinking for yourself is key and not taking the word of either side as the end all be all. Edited September 25, 2019 by Deranged Rhino 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 So I’ll say this again...it’s perfectly acceptable for the Obama Administration to start a corruption investigation of a potential next president....but it’s a crime for Trump do the same thing? okie Dokie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Isn't Katy Turd's dad the Shem who physically threatened 1'1" Ben Shapiro on live TV? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capco Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: That's why thinking for yourself is key and not taking the word of either side as the end all be all. All I'm saying is that Zelensky's comment doesn't exonerate the president. I haven't decided either way yet. I'm still in wait and see mode on this whole topic for now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 Just now, njbuff said: Isn't Katy Turd's dad the Shem who physically threatened 1'1" Ben Shapiro on live TV? Dunno. But that sounds about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said: So I’ll say this again...it’s perfectly acceptable for the Obama Administration to start a corruption investigation of a potential next president....but it’s a crime for Trump do the same thing? okie Dokie Now you get the picture convict - saying this in my best Jack Cates voice (48 hours). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 Just now, Capco said: All I'm saying is that Zelensky's comment doesn't exonerate the president. I haven't decided either way yet. I'm still in wait and see mode on this whole topic for now. I hear you. I do. I was just adding to your equation. We've been lied to repeatedly by the very same people now saying this is a HUGE deal and a threat to our republic. They're proven liars with agendas. So... if you can't trust the source(s) of the story, or the press reporting on it, what do you do? Exactly what you're saying above. Think for yourself *********************************************** This is INTENTIONAL deceit. Not partisan spin. Intentional deceit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said: Dunno. But that sounds about right. You really have to be some kinda hero to threaten little Ben physically, don't ya? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tiberius Posted September 25, 2019 Author Share Posted September 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: So I’ll say this again...it’s perfectly acceptable for the Obama Administration to start a corruption investigation of a potential next president....but it’s a crime for Trump do the same thing? okie Dokie Whataboutisms do absolve anyone of anything. Damn, DR is just throwing his entire twitter feed at us! Help, help, we are drowning in far right wing tweets! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: So I’ll say this again...it’s perfectly acceptable for the Obama Administration to start a corruption investigation of a potential next president....but it’s a crime for Trump do the same thing? okie Dokie There's no definitive proof of Obama himself investigating a potential next president but there is a transcript of Trump asking the Ukraine president asking him to look into a potential next president. There's a difference there but I don't think it's an impeachable offense. Like most things with Trump, he's done a lot of sketchy things but none of them rise to the level of being illegal. Edited September 25, 2019 by Doc Brown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 Just now, Tiberius said: Whataboutisms do absolve anyone of anything. Not what I’m saying at all ...douche! It’s the Presidents job to protect the country. That’s true for BOTH Obama and Trump. NEITHER of them is guilty of anything. Now....the difference is when/if one of them perpetuates FALSE information to misinform the public for political gain or advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capco Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 One thing that crossed my mind: the president isn't the only official that can be impeached. Is it possible that they will simply impeach the DNI for not turning the complaint over to Congress within 7 calendar days after receiving it from the IG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numark3 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 2 hours ago, DC Tom said: But the whistleblower themselves, reporting a phone conversation they didn't even hear, that's not hearsay. You do realize hearsay is a legal term? And you do realize you are misusing it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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