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Kyler Murray is going to be throwing the ball into the backs of his O-line. Guy is the size of a middle schooler.

 

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1 minute ago, Chris from Rochester said:

I saw another "article" yesterday saying Josh Allen is ranked 32nd out of all the qbs this year. I wonder sometimes if people are still upset at him for his controversial tweets he mad when he was like 15 or whatever and desperately want him to fail.  It's obnoxious all the hate he gets

 

That one was a peach as well. The logic was something like, Allen had better passing numbers than Rosen but we rank Rosen higher because his OL sucked. Also, Allen scrambled better than Jackson but we rank Jackson higher because he gained more yards on designed QB runs. 🙄

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3 minutes ago, JD333 said:

 

I did not mean this to be trolling attempt. I am a big Josh Allen fan. I posted this just to show how ridiculous this national media can be when covering Josh Allen

 

Lesson #2.  Make sure the title reflects what an IDIOT the articles author is 

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1 minute ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

 

Lesson #2.  Make sure the title reflects what an IDIOT the articles author is 

Fair enough

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19 minutes ago, JoeF said:

"Allen’s stats were opposite Murray’s, but so were some other things. He was in an advantageous position all game, with many short-yardage down situations, a short field, and a strong run game. Allen also took almost every snap out of shotgun and made a lot of quick, safe, short passes. He completed five passes to Cole Beasley just past the line of scrimmage and a couple more to LeSean McCoy. These are the equivalent of run plays in 2019. Any NFL quarterback can catch the snap in shotgun and make a five-yard pass to his first read."

 

There was no run game when Allen was in the game...

 

The first drive was 3 rushes for 3 yards

The second drive was 2 rushes for 4 yards

 

7 yards rushing in 108 gained (10 yard penalty) -- and penalties, sacks and 3/4 third down conversions...I am all for good analysis and this ain't it

 

So, when the Pats* do it for almost the entirety of Brady's career, it's genius and creative, when the Bills second year QB does it because the coaching staff is DRILLING him into knowing when to take the easy 5 yards and NOT toss a 100 yard bomb that's intercepted, *that's* just poor QB play.....riiiiiight, got it. :huh:

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12 minutes ago, JD333 said:

 

I did not mean this to be trolling attempt. I am a big Josh Allen fan. I posted this just to show how ridiculous this national media can be when covering Josh Allen

Therein lies the problem.  You consider any fool writing a blog national media.

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13 minutes ago, Plano said:

Kyler Murray is going to be throwing the ball into the backs of his O-line. Guy is the size of a middle schooler.

 

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Posted (edited)

I don't get the agenda being pushed for Murray.:blink:

Bucky Brooks labels Murray a "Generational Talent" before he even plays a down in the regular season.  WTF?

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001041986/article/nfls-generational-talents-under-25-kyler-murray-belongs-in-club

 

I just don't see it with Murray yet.

 

Consider the source with the OP.

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BWAHAHAHAHA

Check out the Twitter responses to this tools opinion "article".

 

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After watching "Every Kyler Murphy run and pass" and all of Allen's throws, I assume this is how the author views football.

 

Pass far = good

Pass short = vanilla/bad

 

 

He's chucking it down field, but doesn't complete a single pass beyond the sticks. Somehow that is better than completing short passes and moving the ball. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Murray was absolutely horrible. No, he is not better than he looks. They can bag on Josh Allen if they want but Murray was putrid.

 

Seems like someone has a weird axe to grind.

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I think Murray is a really good prospect and very well might end up being the better QB between the two. Having said that, I'm not going to waste my time reading that article because it just sounds stupid.

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Comically premature agenda driven assumptions.

 

I remain steadfast in the camp that Murray has EXCELLENT BUST potential.  Could he be great yes but i highly doubt it.

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I've made up my mind.  Don't confuse me with facts.

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Lots of caps in that title, the time to let this thread die is now.

 

Go Bills!!!

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Allen, Rosen, Darmold, Murry, are all really unproven....not having established their level of play.  I am thinking, however, these authors are going to eat their words, either this year or next.  imho, Allen won't be bottom when the season is over.  Maybe middle of the pack.....but not bottom.

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I am getting an error message now when I try to view the article and don't see my comment when I view the article on my phone instead of my computer.  I think they blocked me and removed my comment.

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10 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said:

 

Just when you have given up hope that there are stupid writers to entertain and baffle us, something like this comes along .....

You actually gave up hope of running across stupid writers for entertainment?  There are some things we will never run out of.  That's one of them.

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It was funny watching the national media in general fawn over Murray. Starting around mid off season when the rumors of him going number 1 to Arizona were swirling. Every NFL “analyst” was in full “ I have to find something to love on him” mode. Around there he started being labeled as this can’t miss number one overall generational prospect at QB. Never mind the fact that he will be getting hit by offensive linemen literally double his weight, or the fact that he’s a midget but NFL QB standards. 

7 minutes ago, bigK14094 said:

Allen, Rosen, Darmold, Murry, are all really unproven....not having established their level of play.  I am thinking, however, these authors are going to eat their words, either this year or next.  imho, Allen won't be bottom when the season is over.  Maybe middle of the pack.....but not bottom.

Murray is 100% unproven. The other 4 at least have game tape against NFL talent. 

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5 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said:

Cian Farley burner account would be my guess

 

:lol:

 

Dude yes!

 

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man i hope there is some crow eaten later this year with all these articles. 

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1 hour ago, Chris from Rochester said:

I saw another "article" yesterday saying Josh Allen is ranked 32nd out of all the qbs this year. I wonder sometimes if people are still upset at him for his controversial tweets he mad when he was like 15 or whatever and desperately want him to fail.  It's obnoxious all the hate he gets

That was PFF I believe.

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1 hour ago, Ralonzo said:

 

That one was a peach as well. The logic was something like, Allen had better passing numbers than Rosen but we rank Rosen higher because his OL sucked. Also, Allen scrambled better than Jackson but we rank Jackson higher because he gained more yards on designed QB runs. 🙄

 

I think it's likely PFF not basing it exclusively on their rookie seasons but including their draft scouting reports as well. PFF didn't think Allen was a good prospect coming out of college and then he mostly struggled as a rookie. I don't think PFF loved Rosen or Lamar coming out of college, but they definitely liked them a lot more than Allen so I think the logic is basically "good prospect, bad year" > "bad prospect, bad year". Hence why Kyler is above Allen despite never playing an NFL snap before; they think he's a great prospect.

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