unbillievable Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: That is EXACTLY how the Program works. They have the chance to sign as a Future UFA at end of season and be a normal player. They where not signed and chose to be part of this program. Hence why AFCE has been given 91 slots in Camp and 11 slots on PS. He makes the Bills 53 or he continues his development on Bills PS. If At the end of the season Bills sign him or ANY steam signs him to a futures deal now he is a normal NFL player. If he goes Unsigned again he can be a part of the program again where he will be ALLOCATED To a team. That is how the program works. so he will be a Bill in 2019. So you're saying that WADE is not really an NFL player. He's just a water-boy or mascot, getting to hang out with the team and occasionally get on the field. So the entire charade of practices, cutting the guy at the end of camp, making him wait to see if he gets signed to the practice squad is way to acclimate the guy to what it would feel like if any of it was real? Seems harsh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, ddaryl said: There is no scenario that puts Wade on our Active roster this year. I love when people on this site say there is zero chance something will happen, when in fact they have zero idea whether it will or not... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 I think Wade makes it to the PS. Teams scouring cuts aren’t looking for projects. They are looking for guys to make their 53. Guys like Duke Williams and Darryl Johnson are riskier PS hopefuls than a Christian Wade or Vosean Joseph. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Just now, SCBills said: I think Wade makes it to the PS. Teams scouring cuts aren’t looking for projects. They are looking for guys to make their 53. Guys like Duke Williams and Darryl Johnson are riskier PS hopefuls than a Christian Wade or Vosean Joseph. I think we over-inflate the importance of our trash players. Every team thinks they have someone that will make another teams 53 if cut. In reality, only a handful ever move teams. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, mannc said: I love when people on this site say there is zero chance something will happen, when in fact they have zero idea whether it will or not... Well I'm going to double down and TELL YOU there is 0 chance of it happening this year. The guy doesn't have enough football experience to be able to play at the NFL level this year Its truly a common sense thing... It really is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 You cant teach his vision. I know its second half of a preseason game, but at the same time no one else on the team is making those plays in similar situations. You find a way to get him on the 53 and create a handful of plays to get him in space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, unbillievable said: So you're saying that WADE is not really an NFL player. He's just a water-boy or mascot, getting to hang out with the team and occasionally get on the field. So the entire charade of practices, cutting the guy at the end of camp, making him wait to see if he gets signed to the practice squad is way to acclimate the guy to what it would feel like if any of it was real? Seems harsh. I am saying he is a developmental player that is part of the Bills and will be through the 2020 camp as part of the International Pathway Program. And that is that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, unbillievable said: I think we over-inflate the importance of our trash players. Every team thinks they have someone that will make another teams 53 if cut. In reality, only a handful ever move teams. I don’t think Wade or VoJo are trash, but Wade needs a year to learn the position. No team outside us have any clue what he knows or doesn’t know in terms of the NFL RB nuances. VoJo could get picked up by a LB needy team, but he needs A LOT of coaching. Not exactly a 53 guy yet, IMO. A guy that if taking the Corey Thompson route on our PS, could be legit down the line. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, Doc said: There is still nothing that says another team can't sign him to their roster if the Bills cut him on cutdown day. It appears that the assumption is that if the Bills don't sign him to their roster, no other team would want him and thus he would go to the PS. It is part of the program. It is just how it works. He was ALLOCATED to the Bills. He will be on the Bills through 2019. Either in the 53 (which then takes his Allocation protections away if cut after) or as part of their extra slot on the PS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 At the conclusion of training camp, players will be eligible for an international player practice squad exemption. The exemption gives teams space for an eleventh practice squad member, though the player is ineligible to be activated during the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 9 minutes ago, unbillievable said: So you're saying that WADE is not really an NFL player. He's just a water-boy or mascot, getting to hang out with the team and occasionally get on the field. So the entire charade of practices, cutting the guy at the end of camp, making him wait to see if he gets signed to the practice squad is way to acclimate the guy to what it would feel like if any of it was real? Seems harsh. A lot of people just want to dance around the subject of Wade by referring to the Pathways program and the practice squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Rocket94 said: A lot of people just want to dance around the subject of Wade by referring to the Pathways program and the practice squad. what does this even mean ? I think the majority like what they see with Wade enough to want him to succeed. But nobody who has watched football for the last 20 - 50 years truly expects an international player who has never played American football to be able to just step in grab all the games nuances and crack a 53 man roster. Since he can not be called up mid season but can be added to the PS and be protected, added to the chance's of Wade keeping a seasoned player off our roster this year is ridiculously low, I think the majority agree he is PS bound Edited August 17, 2019 by ddaryl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Rocket94 said: A lot of people just want to dance around the subject of Wade by referring to the Pathways program and the practice squad. On the other hand people think a rugby ? player doesn’t have enough talent to make an NFL team. Obviously there is a difference here but.... How many thought Fred Jackson would not make it in the NFL because NFLE was a place for NFL scrubs? Edited August 17, 2019 by ShadyBillsFan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 and why he Still needs the development that he will get on Bills PS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 We all know how Sean McDermott thinks IF he can play special teams then he has a shot IF not, he won't be here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, Rocket94 said: A lot of people just want to dance around the subject of Wade by referring to the Pathways program and the practice squad. I don’t even know what this means. All I am saying is he will be on Bills PS this year and have a chance for that Roster spot in 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Just now, MAJBobby said: and why he Still needs the development that he will get on Bills PS Yep he’s still very raw when it comes to understanding what he needs to do. I don’t think blocking is legal in rugby and last night he didn’t follow his blockers on that big run though he still broke a bunch of tackles. He probably just isn’t used to that process while running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Just now, ShadyBillsFan said: On the other hand people think a rugby ? player doesn’t have enough talent to make an MFL team. Obviously there is a difference here but.... How many thought Fred Jackson would not make it in the NFL because NFLE was a place for NFL scrubs? ...and FredEx was stalled on the pine because Dopey Dickie Jauron's infatuation with vets...A/k/a Anthony "A-Caboose" Johnson....Wade comes with an 11th PS spot, but cannot be activated (I think)...no rush....landscape probably changes by at least one in 2020 when Shady moves on IMO...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Could Wade make the 2020 53-man roster? Yes. If one thing happens--he needs to fit in seemlessly to special teams and make a contribution there. When McDermott judges a player on the bubble, he uses their special teams contribution as a tie breaker. I wonder if Wade could return kicks... he's a definite wrecking ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Just now, YoloinOhio said: Yep he’s still very raw when it comes to understanding what he needs to do. I don’t think blocking is legal in rugby and last night he didn’t follow his blockers on that big run though he still broke a bunch of tackles. He probably just isn’t used to that process while running. But if those are Panthers Starters he doesn’t break thru them. As Much as I like the story line and am enjoying watching him and hope at the end of 2020 he can land on the 53. I would love to see him start next week and show people to slow down a Bit when he sees non future Insurance Salesmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, ddaryl said: what does this even mean ? I think the majority like what they see with Wade enough to want him to succeed. But nobody who has watched football for the last 20 - 50 years truly expects an international player who has never played American football to be able to just step in grab all the games nuances and crack a 53 man roster. Since he can not be called up mid season but can be added to the PS and be protected, added to the chance's of Wade keeping a seasoned player off our roster this year is ridiculously low, I think the majority agree he is PS bound Perhaps I am being progressive, but if there is a player performing like Wade, you find somewhere for him on this roster now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Rocket94 said: Perhaps I am being progressive, but if there is a player performing like Wade, you find somewhere for him on this roster now. Start him Week 3. Let’s see how he performs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 (edited) 21 minutes ago, ddaryl said: Well I'm going to double down and TELL YOU there is 0 chance of it happening this year. The guy doesn't have enough football experience to be able to play at the NFL level this year Its truly a common sense thing... It really is I think the odds are against him, but there is most definitely a chance Wade makes the roster. Obviously, he needs to get more touches in the next two games and continue to make big plays. If he does that, he’s got a shot. It’s not like there are a ton of playmakers on this offense. And I would also say that playing running back in the NFL is probably the easiest thing to learn how to do in professional sports, assuming you have the necessary physical skill set, which Wade clearly seems to have. Rookie RBs from small colleges routinely become starters in the NFL from the first game...It’s a very instinctual position. Also, Wade is 28 years old...How much sense does it make to relegate him to the practice squad for an entire year? Edited August 17, 2019 by mannc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Yep he’s still very raw when it comes to understanding what he needs to do. I don’t think blocking is legal in rugby and last night he didn’t follow his blockers on that big run though he still broke a bunch of tackles. He probably just isn’t used to that process while running. ......shades of the rumblin', bumblin', stumblin', grumblin' smaller version of the "Nigerian Nightmare"......fun to watch...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Just now, Rocket94 said: Perhaps I am being progressive, but if there is a player performing like Wade, you find somewhere for him on this roster now. You are over estimating him at this junction. He has some running and vision ability, he has shown it against 2nd /3rd stringers in a vanilla schemed NFL preseason game. He is most likely not ready for the real game of top dogs barreling down on him yet. You give him that year on the PS and prepare him for next years camp. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 1 minute ago, ddaryl said: You are over estimating him at this junction. He has some running and vision ability, he has shown it against 2nd /3rd stringers in a vanilla schemed NFL preseason game. He is most likely not ready for the real game of top dogs barreling down on him yet. You give him that year on the PS and prepare him for next years camp. He’ll be 29 years old next year...it’s now or never. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 He’s impressed enough to warrant the question of him making the 53, but he’s a clear PS guy this year imo. Can he pass pro? Can he follow blocks? Can he do what he’s doing against guys that won’t be on 53’s, against starters? He made some sick moves, and a great catch, on that play but then cut it back inside when he had a clear TD if he just stayed with his convoy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, ddaryl said: You are over estimating him at this junction. He has some running and vision ability, he has shown it against 2nd /3rd stringers in a vanilla schemed NFL preseason game. He is most likely not ready for the real game of top dogs barreling down on him yet. You give him that year on the PS and prepare him for next years camp. It seems simple does it not - PS is the best option for him to learn the game and keep the best players active each week. Next year he may be a great backup to Singletary if he gets a chance to learn the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, mannc said: He’ll be 29 years old next year...it’s now or never. He will be 29 in camp with zero NFL Miles. Would have one contract in him. Edited August 17, 2019 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, mannc said: He’ll be 29 years old next year...it’s now or never. I don't think this is how you build a team - he is old so put him on the 53. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billykay Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 8 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: But if those are Panthers Starters he doesn’t break thru them. As Much as I like the story line and am enjoying watching him and hope at the end of 2020 he can land on the 53. I would love to see him start next week and show people to slow down a Bit when he sees non future Insurance Salesmen You're correct. The defenders weren't their starters. But they weren't chopped liver either. They were all probably All Conference college players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: He is 27 now not sure about that Math. My math is just fine. He was born May 15, 1991. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, mannc said: He’ll be 29 years old next year...it’s now or never. He is the same age Fred Jackson was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 (edited) 21 minutes ago, ddaryl said: You are over estimating him at this junction. He has some running and vision ability, he has shown it against 2nd /3rd stringers in a vanilla schemed NFL preseason game. He is most likely not ready for the real game of top dogs barreling down on him yet. You give him that year on the PS and prepare him for next years camp. I am just trying to be optimistic. Let us see how he does first against better competition. I do support the PS option if it comes down to that. If Wade proves to make the Bills a better team then he has to be considered, even if seems to be some "alternative" approach. Wade is demonstrating good recognition and instinctual skills as well. Edited August 17, 2019 by Rocket94 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 1 minute ago, ShadyBillsFan said: He is the same age Fred Jackson was finish that sentence... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, mannc said: My math is just fine. He was born May 15, 1991. True. But they use the metric system. So he’s 27 in our years. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 1 hour ago, unbillievable said: Where does it say that he is exclusive to Buffalo? That is the rule for the foreign player program, the NFL assigned Wade to the Buffalo Bills. He can make the 53, or go straight to the PS, cannot be signed by another team, also cannot be called up to the 53, during the season. Go Bills !!! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: That is the rule for the foreign player program, the NFL assigned Wade to the Buffalo Bills. He can make the 53, or go straight to the PS, cannot be signed by another team, also cannot be called up to the 53, during the season. Go Bills !!! 100% correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 19 minutes ago, billykay said: You're correct. The defenders weren't their starters. But they weren't chopped liver either. They were all probably All Conference college players. Ok cool. Then Wade can play College at this point 10 minutes ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said: 100% correct. But where does it say that exclusive to Buffalo. LoL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bargepole Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Doc said: Probably ran out of gas. You guys are nuts. He has played, what, 10 minutes in 2 NFL games? In Rugby, he is used to playing a full 80 minutes taking part in offensive and defensive plays. He will be at least as fit as any NFL player. A few years back, we had an American boy, ex-College Footballer, who came along to try out for my local Rugby club. For 2 minutes, he was the best player on the field, bursting through tackles and making a lot of metres (yes we have to make metres, not yards, so it's even tougher). But after that, he was looking to the sidelines for the oxygen mask - sorry pal, there isn't one, you just keep going. If they keep him as an RB, I can see some special plays being devised involving him and Josh Allen - one of them making the initial run, then offloading the ball to the other to finish it off (what you Americans quaintly call a 'lateral'). That will have the other teams' defence coaches scratching their heads. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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