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5 hours ago, wppete said:

 

We have to get Feliciano in the starting lineup. I like:

 

Dawkins - Spain - Morse - Feliciano - Ford

At this stage, Nsheke is the better tackle.

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You folks don't seem to be realizing that there are typically four tackles on a roster, meaning some guy of significance is likely losing a spot to McDermott, Wesley, or someone who's not even on the team yet. You can't roll with only three tackles, especially if you're talking about starting all three of them!

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6 hours ago, JoPar_v2 said:

 

I love McDermott overall but he seems to have hard-to-understand fascinations with certian guys, Vlad being exhibit A. He sucks. Penalties, slow AF, I don't know man.

Hard to understand is the point. McD sees and knows things we don't.

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Think about this and try not to shutter: Ducasse, Miller, Mills, Teller, and Bodine were all regular starters on our o-line last year ? ..... All five are in danger of not having a NFL job in a few weeks.

 

The improvement in o-line personnel alone with make Allen, the WRs, and the running backs so much better this year. Even mediocre results from them will be huge improvement.

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20 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

You can tell when a team is getting better when you cut guys that wind up going to other teams and starting.  I suspect that happens with a couple of the O line guys this year.

I pity the team that starts Bodine or Vlad.

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2 hours ago, The Bills Blog said:

You folks don't seem to be realizing that there are typically four tackles on a roster, meaning some guy of significance is likely losing a spot to McDermott, Wesley, or someone who's not even on the team yet. You can't roll with only three tackles, especially if you're talking about starting all three of them!

Tackles: Dawkins, Nsekhe, Ford, McDermott/Wesley

Guards: Spain, Long, Feliciano, Teller

Center: Morse

 

Seems pretty straight forward at this point barring injury.

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2 hours ago, The Bills Blog said:

You folks don't seem to be realizing that there are typically four tackles on a roster, meaning some guy of significance is likely losing a spot to McDermott, Wesley, or someone who's not even on the team yet. You can't roll with only three tackles, especially if you're talking about starting all three of them!

With Fords ability to move.  I could see see them keep 3.  You always move Ford to RT if Nyske goes down and have Feliciano or Long play guard.  I think they keep 8 to 9 lineman.  Tellar would be the 9th.  

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1 hour ago, Shaw66 said:

Hard to understand is the point. McD sees and knows things we don't.

 

I'm not a Ducasse fan at all, but objectively I'll say Joe B. did a deeper dive into Ducasse's play last year and found him to be one of the better points on the line. Actually, the last two years which I think has more to do with assignments than anything else. That said, it's wonderful to see that last year's starting G / C can't hold the jock of the guys projected to start this year. Talent upgrade and superior production is believed to be on the horizon. Last night's glimpse was encouraging, but we do need to see consistency and get Morse out there to build the chemistry before we start comparing them to Dallas and Indy as terrific O-line units. 

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8 hours ago, JoPar_v2 said:

 

I love McDermott overall but he seems to have hard-to-understand fascinations with certian guys, Vlad being exhibit A. He sucks. Penalties, slow AF, I don't know man.

 

I think that Ducasse came along with the former O-Line Coach, Castillo.    Vlad was Castillo's guy and Vlad won't be around.   

 

It seems, and I could be wrong, that they would rather have Ford at Guard at this point.  The Washington guy played well last night, but I did see Ford whiff on a block early in the game and Sweeney must have missed a chip block on the sack of Allen.   

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We need Mitch Morse for the entire season.

 

He’s the key to our offensive line.

 

IF our offensive line stays healthy and keeps Josh upright, we might surprise a whole lot of people this season.

 

Big if though.

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8 hours ago, wppete said:

 

We have to get Feliciano in the starting lineup. I like:

 

Dawkins - Spain - Morse - Feliciano - Ford

 

 

I don't think Ford is near ready to handle the Kahlil Mack / Von Millers of the world who routinely line up across from the RT

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9 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

I think Bodine is gone

Mitch will be back....and we have 2 other OL that should make the team that can both play center and guard in Feliciano and Long

I think so too.  After Morse, there are a few players who can play center in a pinch, and not look terrible.  Bodine really is a center only and does look terrible at times.  Feliciano, Long, and even Boettger can all snap the ball, and offer you something at guard as well.

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10 hours ago, JoPar_v2 said:

 

Played better than you'd expect. Bodine OTOH, is a disaster. Boggles the mind how he started all those games in Cincy when they were making the playoffs every year.

 

That was my thought, too. I was like, "How the heck did this dude start for four straight years in Cincy?" I assume they had somewhat of a different blocking scheme or perhaps the guards on either side of him made him look alright.

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12 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

I think our line is set.

Dawkins - Spain - Morse - Ford - Nsheke 

 

12 hours ago, Just Joshin' said:

This is the best combo this year.

 

12 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Nsheke played well. I dont have any problems with whatever combo of Feliciano/Ford/Nsheke they want to use as the Right side. ?

 

 

I have no problem with Nsheke as I thought he might take the job when we signed him.

 

However, I would love Ford to get that spot, too, if for no other reason that we are now short at back-up T.  I know, I know, 6 or one half dozen.  However, I was just counting on Ford being the tackle and if anything happens to Dawkins or Ford, Nsheke goes in.

 

We are a little deeper at guard than we are at T, and now we have our T draft pick going in at G.  Which, honestly, that is fine if he is good, but again we are thin at T.

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Just now, Mountain Man said:

Good is stretching it. He looked competent. I wouldn't want him starting every game 

I mean your backup C isnt going to look like an all pro.....that NEVER happens.

 

He wont make that mistake that gets your QB killed

We are in a nice situation on the right side of the OL

 

Isnt that a nice thing to hear after years of not?

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3 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said:

 

 

 

 

I have no problem with Nsheke as I thought he might take the job when we signed him.

 

However, I would love Ford to get that spot, too, if for no other reason that we are now short at back-up T.  I know, I know, 6 or one half doze.  However, I was just counting on Ford being the tackle and if anything happens to Dawkins or Ford, Nsheke goes in.

 

We are a little deeper at guard than we are at T, and now we have our T draft pick going in at G.  Which, honestly, that is fine if he is good, but again we are thin at T.

 

This is how I see it.  They need another T on the 53.  That extra T will typically not dress on Sundays but it seems to me you have

to protect against injuries.

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12 hours ago, TigerJ said:

Conversely, Bodine demonstrated why the Bills went out and made Mitch Morse the richest center in the NFL.  Please get better, Mitch.  The Bills need to be able to cut Bodine's behind.  The same goes fro Vlad Ducasse.  I'll give Spain a mulligan on his holding penalty this time, but I don't want to see him make a habit of it.   

Mostly I don’t want to see him get caught doing it, ?

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4 hours ago, Chuck Wagon said:

 

 

I don't think Ford is near ready to handle the Kahlil Mack / Von Millers of the world who routinely line up across from the RT

 

4 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

Concussion.

 

Protocol*

 

He's in Concussion Protocol, which mostly sounds like he's taking the preseason easy.

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1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

 

Protocol*

 

He's in Concussion Protocol, which mostly sounds like he's taking the preseason easy.

 

If you want our relationship to work....please stop correcting me in front of the children.  Oh yeah...I almost forgot...my parents are coming in town this weekend.  

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1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

If you want our relationship to work....please stop correcting me in front of the children.  Oh yeah...I almost forgot...my parents are coming in town this weekend.  

 

Your mother always criticizes my cooking. Im going to a hotel!

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