Everything Joe Biden--Gaffes, Miscues, Touching, Songs

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

2 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

 

 

17,000+ days in office...but now. He’s a joke. 

[Keukasmallies]

On 6/9/2020 at 1:17 AM, transplantbillsfan said:

Biden is a physically affectionate guy. And it's with men AND women. That's the crux of why I mostly dismiss it. 

 

I think you and your ilk are trying to build up an argument of logic against Biden instead of considering just what/who he is.

 

 

Joe Biden is a politician in the worst sense of the word:  Corrupt, self-aggrandizing, arrogant and totally clueless to the events around him.  On the other hand, and in his defense, he the victim of early onset dementia, he is being manipulated by the DNC and his family, and he is living through a time when anyone appears better than Trump, so the spotlight is on  Biden as savior while knowing full well he is as inept as his opponent.

[transplantbillsfan]

1 hour ago, Keukasmallies said:

 

Joe Biden is a politician in the worst sense of the word:  Corrupt, self-aggrandizing, arrogant and totally clueless to the events around him.  On the other hand, and in his defense, he the victim of early onset dementia, he is being manipulated by the DNC and his family, and he is living through a time when anyone appears better than Trump, so the spotlight is on  Biden as savior while knowing full well he is as inept as his opponent.

 

This, minus the "as inept as his opponen" part.

 

Biden isn't a historically great Democratic candidate by any means.

 

But the guy he's running against has had 3 1/2 years to demonstrate he's an utterly horrible President.

 

Biden just needs to be clearly better than Trump.

 

And he is because it's really not hard.

 

That's why Biden wins in November.

Edited June 10, 2020 by transplantbillsfan

[Buffalo_Gal]

1 minute ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

This 100%.

 

Biden isn't a historically great Democratic candidate by any means.

 

But the guy he's running against has had 3 1/2 years to demonstrate he's an utterly horrible President.

 

Biden just needs to be clearly better than Trump.

 

And he is because it's really not hard.

 

That's why Biden wins in November.

Could you specifically state why President Trump has been an "utterly horrible President"?  Facts, not feelz, please.

 

[Deranged Rhino]

4 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

This 100%.

 

Biden isn't a historically great Democratic candidate by any means.

 

But the guy he's running against has had 3 1/2 years to demonstrate he's an utterly horrible President.

 

Biden just needs to be clearly better than Trump.

 

And he is because it's really not hard.

 

That's why Biden wins in November.

 

The thing is, from everything from his record to his racism to his corruption -- Joe's decidedly worse than Trump. 

 

Joe didn't pass criminal justice reform, Trump did. 

Trump isn't on camera assaulting women and children for decades, but Joe is. 

Trump funded Historically black universities and colleges, Joe never did. 

Trump didn't abuse the police and intelligence powers to spy on his political rivals, Joe did. 

 

What Joe did, over his forty years in power was to strengthen the "systemic injustice", get in bed with high interest credit card companies that crushed the working class and created a generation of debt slaves, he worked with segregationists and former Klan heads in Congress. 

 

Joe's not only a terrible politician, he's a proven disaster for the country when he was in power. 

 

No Chance Joe. That's who you support. Which means you don't really support any reform, or changing of the system. Your vote for Joe is a vote for systemic racism, government corruption, and the abuse of women. Wear that pin proud, Trans. You'll want to burn it in about 10 years when you realize you've been suckered. 

Edited June 10, 2020 by Deranged Rhino

[keepthefaith]

1 hour ago, Keukasmallies said:

 

Joe Biden is a politician in the worst sense of the word:  Corrupt, self-aggrandizing, arrogant and totally clueless to the events around him.  On the other hand, and in his defense, he the victim of early onset dementia, he is being manipulated by the DNC and his family, and he is living through a time when anyone appears better than Trump, so the spotlight is on  Biden as savior while knowing full well he is as inept as his opponent.

 

I don't know about early onset.  He's 77 years old. 

[3rdnlng]

28 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

Could you specifically state why President Trump has been an "utterly horrible President"?  Facts, not feelz, please.

 

He's Factless in Hawaii. 

[Buffalo_Gal]

7 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

He's Factless in Hawaii. 

I know, but I still like to afford him the opportunity to back up his claims.

 

[Deranged Rhino]

 It was a brutal beat down at the end. 

 

 

[reddogblitz]

2 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

The thing is, from everything from his record to his racism to his corruption -- Joe's decidedly worse than Trump. 

 

Joe didn't pass criminal justice reform, Trump did. 

Trump isn't on camera assaulting women and children for decades, but Joe is. 

Trump funded Historically black universities and colleges, Joe never did. 

Trump didn't abuse the police and intelligence powers to spy on his political rivals, Joe did. 

 

What Joe did, over his forty years in power was to strengthen the "systemic injustice", get in bed with high interest credit card companies that crushed the working class and created a generation of debt slaves, he worked with segregationists and former Klan heads in Congress. 

 

Joe's not only a terrible politician, he's a proven disaster for the country when he was in power. 

 

No Chance Joe. That's who you support. Which means you don't really support any reform, or changing of the system. Your vote for Joe is a vote for systemic racism, government corruption, and the abuse of women. Wear that pin proud, Trans. You'll want to burn it in about 10 years when you realize you've been suckered. 

 

Uncle Joe also made a eulogy at Strom Thurmond's funeral.

 

If institutional racism is your issue how can you possibly support him?

[Deranged Rhino]

Just now, reddogblitz said:

 

Uncle Joe also made a eulogy at Strom Thurmond's funeral.

 

If institutional racism is your issue how can you possibly support him?

 

Exactly. They cannot -- unless they ignore his record. Which is what @transplantbillsfan has been doing for months now. 

 

No Chance Joe is the worst candidate you could run in this moment precisely because of his record. He was one of the primary architects of "systemic injustice", he had nearly 50 years in power and in that time worked with segregationists (while praising them) and authoring the crime bill which did more to tilt the system against black, brown and poor folk than any other piece of legislation since Reconstruction. 

 

 

 

But THIS time he'll be different!  

[Wacka]

I've said it before, Biden is giving my 93-year old mother a run fire her money in the dementia race. Some mornings mom thinks I am one of her dead brothers , my sister is her dead cousin  or that she has to pack and go to a wedding today,  but she is mot running for POTUS. 

 

Addendum-My mom is not like this all the time, usually before she is fully awake in the morning  or if she wakes uo during the night. She can be as funny as hell.  My bro and I were  wiping her but and my brother made a comment about doing it out at the curb if she continued to give us a hard time. She said," If you do, you better charge  people  to watch."

 

Remember if Biden won ( fat chance) he  would have the nuclear football.

Edited June 11, 2020 by Wacka

[Koko78]

6 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

Could you specifically state why President Trump has been an "utterly horrible President"?  Facts, not feelz, please.

 

 

He tweets mean things! He insulted several woman years ago! He's orange!

There can be no more damning proof that he is, in fact, an actual literal super mecha-Hitler.

[njbuff]

48 minutes ago, Koko78 said:

 

He tweets mean things! He insulted several woman years ago! He's orange!

There can be no more damning proof that he is, in fact, an actual literal super mecha-Hitler.

 

People are mad that he had Marla Maples.

[transplantbillsfan]

10 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

Could you specifically state why President Trump has been an "utterly horrible President"?  Facts, not feelz, please.

 

 

• A tax bill that was unnecessary in the first place but primarily helped the wealthy as opposed to the middle class and is adding TONS to our national debt despite being advertised as paying for itself.

 

• A statistically significant rise in hate crimes, attributed likely in some small part at least to his own hateful rhetoric--yes, words do matter, especially from the President.

 

• His desperation to take people's health insurance away by dismantling an imperfect but fixable Affordable Care Act rather than building on it to make it better.

 

• His complete lack of any empathy. And that's not a "feelz" thing because it bleeds over into his actions, like violently clearing out peaceful protesters for a 3 minute photo op.

 

• Environmental deregulations, setting this country's environmental progress back.

 

• The national treaties we've been pulling out of and a general turn inward in a world constantly getting more global despite the wildly underestimated but still minority populist movements that have sprung up recently.

 

• Our global standing as a trustworthy Country.

 

• ADHD when it comes to his cabinet members, who aren't afforded the ability to be the experts they're supposed to be because they're required to walk on eggshells to appease a boss who can't hear hard truths.

 

• Constant and utter corruption from his own appointees and from himself. I wasn't here years ago but I'm sure DR posted tweets or comments by Trump at some point about how he wouldn't be on the golf course like Obama and that he'd probably never leave the White House because he'd be working too hard. Not quite what happened, is it? It will be interesting to see when his Presidency is done at the end of this year how much he cost the American taxpayers and how much the American taxpayers actually funded Trump's business. Not to mention other shady things like $17.2 million spent to land military planes at a small airport in Scotland, which of course was right near a golf resort Trump owns.

 

• Everything he's done with the Press in terms of his lack of transparency and other things like calling them the enemy of the people, which you see his supporters shouting at journalists consistently.

 

• An economy that is now in shambles after 3 years of riding the coattails of the previous Administration that rebuilt the economy from the last economic disaster, which is what Biden's Administration will have to start doing again in January.

 

• 115,000 Americans dead in just 4 months and counting due in part to a President who was utterly unprepared due to his own ego and narcissism and even now seems to be in denial. Let's be honest, this is what's sealed his fate as a one term President already.

 

• His handling of these protests in terms of both rhetoric and action.

 

• Casting preemptive doubt on the democratic process foreshadowing a breaking of long tradition of the peaceful transfer of power from one President to another.

 

 

 

Sorry, not an exhaustive list, but you asked for facts for why he's an awful President. I think as the years progress and the world progresses history is going to look at him even worse... one step back for this Country after 2 steps forward under Obama.

Edited June 11, 2020 by transplantbillsfan

[transplantbillsfan]

7 hours ago, reddogblitz said:

 

Uncle Joe also made a eulogy at Strom Thurmond's funeral.

 

If institutional racism is your issue how can you possibly support him?

 

Lots of black people do, especially old black people.

 

Do you think black people--especially old black people--are stupid?

 

They definitely don't support Trump, who will probably be jumping for joy if he can muster up 10% of the black vote.

 

[reddogblitz]

3 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Lots of black people do, especially old black people.

 

Do you think black people--especially old black people--are stupid?

 

They definitely don't support Trump, who will probably be jumping for joy if he can muster up 10% of the black vote.

 

 

Really?

[transplantbillsfan]

47 minutes ago, reddogblitz said:

 

Really?

 

Right back at ya...

 

You're the one asking how you could support Biden if Institutional racism is your issue.

 

Pretty sure that's the issue for black people.

 

Seems the support leans overwhelmingly for Biden over Trump from black people.

 

I understand the reason you're dismissive of the question even though the question is warranted given your own pretty definitive question.

 

So do you think all those black people supporting Biden right now and voting for him in the Fall are dumb or naive or misguided or whatever word you want to use? 

 

Just keep in mind Biden will almost certainly get 85-90% of the black vote, at least.

 

 

Side question: is everyone in this forum white?

 

Are there any black people who frequent PPP?

Edited June 11, 2020 by transplantbillsfan

[Keukasmallies]

3 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

Side question: is everyone in this forum white?

 

Whoa, now there's a racist question given the currtent national atmosphere!  The assumptions  behind that question just leap out to be recognized.

[The Guy In Pants]

10 hours ago, Koko78 said:

 

He tweets mean things! He insulted several woman years ago! He's orange!

There can be no more damning proof that he is, in fact, an actual literal super mecha-Hitler.

 

Don’t forget the hair. 

4 hours ago, reddogblitz said:

 

Really?

 

He must not know too many. He’s still using polls.

[Buffalo_Gal]

8 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

• A tax bill that was unnecessary in the first place but primarily helped the wealthy as opposed to the middle class and is adding TONS to our national debt despite being advertised as paying for itself.

 

• A statistically significant rise in hate crimes, attributed likely in some small part at least to his own hateful rhetoric--yes, words do matter, especially from the President.

 

• His desperation to take people's health insurance away by dismantling an imperfect but fixable Affordable Care Act rather than building on it to make it better.

 

• His complete lack of any empathy. And that's not a "feelz" thing because it bleeds over into his actions, like violently clearing out peaceful protesters for a 3 minute photo op.

 

• Environmental deregulations, setting this country's environmental progress back.

 

• The national treaties we've been pulling out of and a general turn inward in a world constantly getting more global despite the wildly underestimated but still minority populist movements that have sprung up recently.

 

• Our global standing as a trustworthy Country.

 

• ADHD when it comes to his cabinet members, who aren't afforded the ability to be the experts they're supposed to be because they're required to walk on eggshells to appease a boss who can't hear hard truths.

 

• Constant and utter corruption from his own appointees and from himself. I wasn't here years ago but I'm sure DR posted tweets or comments by Trump at some point about how he wouldn't be on the golf course like Obama and that he'd probably never leave the White House because he'd be working too hard. Not quite what happened, is it? It will be interesting to see when his Presidency is done at the end of this year how much he cost the American taxpayers and how much the American taxpayers actually funded Trump's business. Not to mention other shady things like $17.2 million spent to land military planes at a small airport in Scotland, which of course was right near a golf resort Trump owns.

 

• Everything he's done with the Press in terms of his lack of transparency and other things like calling them the enemy of the people, which you see his supporters shouting at journalists consistently.

 

• An economy that is now in shambles after 3 years of riding the coattails of the previous Administration that rebuilt the economy from the last economic disaster, which is what Biden's Administration will have to start doing again in January.

 

• 115,000 Americans dead in just 4 months and counting due in part to a President who was utterly unprepared due to his own ego and narcissism and even now seems to be in denial. Let's be honest, this is what's sealed his fate as a one term President already.

 

• His handling of these protests in terms of both rhetoric and action.

 

• Casting preemptive doubt on the democratic process foreshadowing a breaking of long tradition of the peaceful transfer of power from one President to another.

 

 

 

Sorry, not an exhaustive list, but you asked for facts for why he's an awful President. I think as the years progress and the world progresses history is going to look at him even worse... one step back for this Country after 2 steps forward under Obama.

Thank you for the list.  A lot of it is wrong, slanted, and feelings, but they are reasons.

Let me address them:

A tax bill that was unnecessary in the first place but primarily helped the wealthy as opposed to the middle class and is adding TONS to our national debt despite being advertised as paying for itself.

The tax cuts did not primarily help the wealthy. It has added to the national debt, but Trump was never going to bring that down. If you know anything about real estate people, you know they love to use other people's money. The national debt was never going to be something Trump worked on.

A statistically significant rise in hate crimes, attributed likely in some small part at least to his own hateful rhetoric--yes, words do matter, especially from the President.

FBI hate crime list.  One thing I learned by your statement and having to look at the stats, there are far fewer "hates crimes" than I thought in the United States. 

 His desperation to take people's health insurance away by dismantling an imperfect but fixable Affordable Care Act rather than building on it to make it better.

Your complaint is my joy. ? I am hopeful my health insurance will actually come down in price after the crazy amount craptastic Obamacare raised it. No one should need to pay $25K per year out of pocket for ***** health insurance, but that is what Obamacare did for me and Hubby. If you paid out of pocket (instead of getting your benefits through your job) you would know how devastating Obamacare was. Three times the cost for worse insurance. Oh yay.

His complete lack of any empathy. And that's not a "feelz" thing because it bleeds over into his actions, like violently clearing out peaceful protesters for a 3 minute photo op.

Totally feelz. LOL

Environmental deregulations, setting this country's environmental progress back.

Hurray!!  While no one wants smoggy air or their local river set ablaze, no one wants the puddle on their land to be considered under the purview of the EPA. There is a happy medium. The environmental laws had gone too far. I am glad he is pulling some back.

The national treaties we've been pulling out of and a general turn inward in a world constantly getting more global despite the wildly underestimated but still minority populist movements that have sprung up recently.

We are not the world's policeman. While I agree we should be in some areas to promote stability, we are not  in the coup business (see Obama administration, Ukraine, for guidance on what not to do), Germany and Japan can afford to pay to have our military there, and Afghanistan is simply a way for the military complex to make money. 

Our global standing as a trustworthy Country.

What does that even mean?

 ADHD when it comes to his cabinet members, who aren't afforded the ability to be the experts they're supposed to be because they're required to walk on eggshells to appease a boss who can't hear hard truths.

That is more than unfair. Almost four years later, he still has cabinet members waiting for confirmation. The Democrats have done everything in their power to slow walk the Trump administration cabinet members.  "Walk on eggshells?"  Stop watching CNN.

Constant and utter corruption from his own appointees and from himself. I wasn't here years ago but I'm sure DR posted tweets or comments by Trump at some point about how he wouldn't be on the golf course like Obama and that he'd probably never leave the White House because he'd be working too hard. Not quite what happened, is it? It will be interesting to see when his Presidency is done at the end of this year how much he cost the American taxpayers and how much the American taxpayers actually funded Trump's business. Not to mention other shady things like $17.2 million spent to land military planes at a small airport in Scotland, which of course was right near a golf resort Trump owns.

This is not true. If there was "corruption by his own appointees and from himself" there would have been no-knock raises by the FBI on the White House door. President Trump had his undies examined for 2.5 years and they came up with nuthin'.

Everything he's done with the Press in terms of his lack of transparency and other things like calling them the enemy of the people, which you see his supporters shouting at journalists consistently.

Where is the wild cheering gif? The "msm" are driving narratives, "social justice" initiatives, and the DNC annex. There are only a handful of honest reporters left at any of the news stations. The biggest positive of the Trump administration has been to show the US and the world, how partisan and outright dishonest the US press is.

An economy that is now in shambles after 3 years of riding the coattails of the previous Administration that rebuilt the economy from the last economic disaster, which is what Biden's Administration will have to start doing again in January.

Wow. Just wow.  Mr. Magic Wand led a great economy for Trump to ride his coattails? M'kay.

And now Trump is responsible for a virus that people were concerned was a bio-weapon? Trump was presiding over the best economy the US has ever had. And he shut it down because of concerns about a virus from China. How long it stayed shut down is on the governors. Some states have been open since the end of April, while other states are still not fully open. If your state is not fully open, call your governor's office to complain.

115,000 Americans dead in just 4 months and counting due in part to a President who was utterly unprepared due to his own ego and narcissism and even now seems to be in denial. Let's be honest, this is what's sealed his fate as a one term President already.

Again, wow.  President Trump handled the Wuhan virus fairly well. He allowed the state governors to lead, which is what federalism is. He acted as a wartime president and got companies quickly onboard to make PPE supplies, labs to research the virus and make testing kits, etc. If you think it is easy to make this happen in under a month for a virus that appeared that recently, you need to get out and get a job in the corporate world. You might then appreciate the sheer speed in which all this happened.

Should be have had 300M N95 masks in the vault? Should be have had 50K ventilators sitting in a warehouse? Maybe. Until you consider that NYS did have ventilators, but sold them due to obsolescence. The same would have happened to any federal stockpile. Would the bands have decomposed on the N95 masks? I do not know. Those we should have had more on.  Did Congress allot the money for those purchases and it was not fulfilled? If so, you do have an argument.

His handling of these protests in terms of both rhetoric and action.

Rhetoric? Huh? He told the governors to ask for help if they needed it. Again, see federalism. (I hope you do not teach civics or history)

Casting preemptive doubt on the democratic process foreshadowing a breaking of long tradition of the peaceful transfer of power from one President to another.

Huh? Obama did this when his administration staged a soft-coup against the incoming Trump administration. Your "preemptive doubt" is you watching CNN.






 

[Koko78]

10 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

• A tax bill that was unnecessary in the first place but primarily helped the wealthy as opposed to the middle class and is adding TONS to our national debt despite being advertised as paying for itself.

 

• A statistically significant rise in hate crimes, attributed likely in some small part at least to his own hateful rhetoric--yes, words do matter, especially from the President.

 

• His desperation to take people's health insurance away by dismantling an imperfect but fixable Affordable Care Act rather than building on it to make it better.

 

• His complete lack of any empathy. And that's not a "feelz" thing because it bleeds over into his actions, like violently clearing out peaceful protesters for a 3 minute photo op.

 

• Environmental deregulations, setting this country's environmental progress back.

 

• The national treaties we've been pulling out of and a general turn inward in a world constantly getting more global despite the wildly underestimated but still minority populist movements that have sprung up recently.

 

• Our global standing as a trustworthy Country.

 

• ADHD when it comes to his cabinet members, who aren't afforded the ability to be the experts they're supposed to be because they're required to walk on eggshells to appease a boss who can't hear hard truths.

 

• Constant and utter corruption from his own appointees and from himself. I wasn't here years ago but I'm sure DR posted tweets or comments by Trump at some point about how he wouldn't be on the golf course like Obama and that he'd probably never leave the White House because he'd be working too hard. Not quite what happened, is it? It will be interesting to see when his Presidency is done at the end of this year how much he cost the American taxpayers and how much the American taxpayers actually funded Trump's business. Not to mention other shady things like $17.2 million spent to land military planes at a small airport in Scotland, which of course was right near a golf resort Trump owns.

 

• Everything he's done with the Press in terms of his lack of transparency and other things like calling them the enemy of the people, which you see his supporters shouting at journalists consistently.

 

• An economy that is now in shambles after 3 years of riding the coattails of the previous Administration that rebuilt the economy from the last economic disaster, which is what Biden's Administration will have to start doing again in January.

 

• 115,000 Americans dead in just 4 months and counting due in part to a President who was utterly unprepared due to his own ego and narcissism and even now seems to be in denial. Let's be honest, this is what's sealed his fate as a one term President already.

 

• His handling of these protests in terms of both rhetoric and action.

 

• Casting preemptive doubt on the democratic process foreshadowing a breaking of long tradition of the peaceful transfer of power from one President to another.

 

 

 

Sorry, not an exhaustive list, but you asked for facts for why he's an awful President. I think as the years progress and the world progresses history is going to look at him even worse... one step back for this Country after 2 steps forward under Obama.

 

Wow, quite literally none of this reflects reality.

[3rdnlng]

10 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

• A tax bill that was unnecessary in the first place but primarily helped the wealthy as opposed to the middle class and is adding TONS to our national debt despite being advertised as paying for itself.

 

• A statistically significant rise in hate crimes, attributed likely in some small part at least to his own hateful rhetoric--yes, words do matter, especially from the President.

 

• His desperation to take people's health insurance away by dismantling an imperfect but fixable Affordable Care Act rather than building on it to make it better.

 

• His complete lack of any empathy. And that's not a "feelz" thing because it bleeds over into his actions, like violently clearing out peaceful protesters for a 3 minute photo op.

 

• Environmental deregulations, setting this country's environmental progress back.

 

• The national treaties we've been pulling out of and a general turn inward in a world constantly getting more global despite the wildly underestimated but still minority populist movements that have sprung up recently.

 

• Our global standing as a trustworthy Country.

 

• ADHD when it comes to his cabinet members, who aren't afforded the ability to be the experts they're supposed to be because they're required to walk on eggshells to appease a boss who can't hear hard truths.

 

• Constant and utter corruption from his own appointees and from himself. I wasn't here years ago but I'm sure DR posted tweets or comments by Trump at some point about how he wouldn't be on the golf course like Obama and that he'd probably never leave the White House because he'd be working too hard. Not quite what happened, is it? It will be interesting to see when his Presidency is done at the end of this year how much he cost the American taxpayers and how much the American taxpayers actually funded Trump's business. Not to mention other shady things like $17.2 million spent to land military planes at a small airport in Scotland, which of course was right near a golf resort Trump owns.

 

• Everything he's done with the Press in terms of his lack of transparency and other things like calling them the enemy of the people, which you see his supporters shouting at journalists consistently.

 

• An economy that is now in shambles after 3 years of riding the coattails of the previous Administration that rebuilt the economy from the last economic disaster, which is what Biden's Administration will have to start doing again in January.

 

• 115,000 Americans dead in just 4 months and counting due in part to a President who was utterly unprepared due to his own ego and narcissism and even now seems to be in denial. Let's be honest, this is what's sealed his fate as a one term President already.

 

• His handling of these protests in terms of both rhetoric and action.

 

• Casting preemptive doubt on the democratic process foreshadowing a breaking of long tradition of the peaceful transfer of power from one President to another.

 

 

 

Sorry, not an exhaustive list, but you asked for facts for why he's an awful President. I think as the years progress and the world progresses history is going to look at him even worse... one step back for this Country after 2 steps forward under Obama.

Factless in Hawaii, still quoting talking points. 

[Orlando Tim]

10 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

• A tax bill that was unnecessary in the first place but primarily helped the wealthy as opposed to the middle class and is adding TONS to our national debt despite being advertised as paying for itself.

 

• A statistically significant rise in hate crimes, attributed likely in some small part at least to his own hateful rhetoric--yes, words do matter, especially from the President.

 

• His desperation to take people's health insurance away by dismantling an imperfect but fixable Affordable Care Act rather than building on it to make it better.

 

• His complete lack of any empathy. And that's not a "feelz" thing because it bleeds over into his actions, like violently clearing out peaceful protesters for a 3 minute photo op.

 

• Environmental deregulations, setting this country's environmental progress back.

 

• The national treaties we've been pulling out of and a general turn inward in a world constantly getting more global despite the wildly underestimated but still minority populist movements that have sprung up recently.

 

• Our global standing as a trustworthy Country.

 

• ADHD when it comes to his cabinet members, who aren't afforded the ability to be the experts they're supposed to be because they're required to walk on eggshells to appease a boss who can't hear hard truths.

 

• Constant and utter corruption from his own appointees and from himself. I wasn't here years ago but I'm sure DR posted tweets or comments by Trump at some point about how he wouldn't be on the golf course like Obama and that he'd probably never leave the White House because he'd be working too hard. Not quite what happened, is it? It will be interesting to see when his Presidency is done at the end of this year how much he cost the American taxpayers and how much the American taxpayers actually funded Trump's business. Not to mention other shady things like $17.2 million spent to land military planes at a small airport in Scotland, which of course was right near a golf resort Trump owns.

 

• Everything he's done with the Press in terms of his lack of transparency and other things like calling them the enemy of the people, which you see his supporters shouting at journalists consistently.

 

• An economy that is now in shambles after 3 years of riding the coattails of the previous Administration that rebuilt the economy from the last economic disaster, which is what Biden's Administration will have to start doing again in January.

 

• 115,000 Americans dead in just 4 months and counting due in part to a President who was utterly unprepared due to his own ego and narcissism and even now seems to be in denial. Let's be honest, this is what's sealed his fate as a one term President already.

 

• His handling of these protests in terms of both rhetoric and action.

 

• Casting preemptive doubt on the democratic process foreshadowing a breaking of long tradition of the peaceful transfer of power from one President to another.

 

 

 

Sorry, not an exhaustive list, but you asked for facts for why he's an awful President. I think as the years progress and the world progresses history is going to look at him even worse... one step back for this Country after 2 steps forward under Obama.

I generally disagree with everything you say but do appreciate the fact you are willing to put actual thoughts together. Several posters on here that are anti Trump are just name callers and can't be reasoned with.

[SoCal Deek]

Trump ‘casted doubt on the peaceful transfer of power’? Oh come on! You could’ve left that last one off the list! With all we’ve learned in the last three and a half years about the failed Russia/Ukrainian hoax it’s clear that Trump is the last one to accuse of this. 

[RiotAct]

Trump’s canceling the general elections?  What???

[3rdnlng]

1 hour ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

Thank you for the list.  A lot of it is wrong, slanted, and feelings, but they are reasons.

Let me address them:

A tax bill that was unnecessary in the first place but primarily helped the wealthy as opposed to the middle class and is adding TONS to our national debt despite being advertised as paying for itself. Can you clearly state that it was the tax cuts that increased the deficit and not the increased spending?

The tax cuts did not primarily help the wealthy. It has added to the national debt, but Trump was never going to bring that down. If you know anything about real estate people, you know they love to use other people's money. The national debt was never going to be something Trump worked on.

A statistically significant rise in hate crimes, attributed likely in some small part at least to his own hateful rhetoric--yes, words do matter, especially from the President.

FBI hate crime list.  One thing I learned by your statement and having to look at the stats, there are far fewer "hates crimes" than I thought in the United States. 

 His desperation to take people's health insurance away by dismantling an imperfect but fixable Affordable Care Act rather than building on it to make it better.

Your complaint is my joy. ? I am hopeful my health insurance will actually come down in price after the crazy amount craptastic Obamacare raised it. No one should need to pay $25K per year out of pocket for ***** health insurance, but that is what Obamacare did for me and Hubby. If you paid out of pocket (instead of getting your benefits through your job) you would know how devastating Obamacare was. Three times the cost for worse insurance. Oh yay.

His complete lack of any empathy. And that's not a "feelz" thing because it bleeds over into his actions, like violently clearing out peaceful protesters for a 3 minute photo op.

Totally feelz. LOL

Environmental deregulations, setting this country's environmental progress back. In substantially what way?

Hurray!!  While no one wants smoggy air or their local river set ablaze, no one wants the puddle on their land to be considered under the purview of the EPA. There is a happy medium. The environmental laws had gone too far. I am glad he is pulling some back.

The national treaties we've been pulling out of and a general turn inward in a world constantly getting more global despite the wildly underestimated but still minority populist movements that have sprung up recently. What treaties have we pulled out of?

We are not the world's policeman. While I agree we should be in some areas to promote stability, we are not  in the coup business (see Obama administration, Ukraine, for guidance on what not to do), Germany and Japan can afford to pay to have our military there, and Afghanistan is simply a way for the military complex to make money. 

Our global standing as a trustworthy Country.

What does that even mean?

 ADHD when it comes to his cabinet members, who aren't afforded the ability to be the experts they're supposed to be because they're required to walk on eggshells to appease a boss who can't hear hard truths.

That is more than unfair. Almost four years later, he still has cabinet members waiting for confirmation. The Democrats have done everything in their power to slow walk the Trump administration cabinet members.  "Walk on eggshells?"  Stop watching CNN.

Constant and utter corruption from his own appointees and from himself. I wasn't here years ago but I'm sure DR posted tweets or comments by Trump at some point about how he wouldn't be on the golf course like Obama and that he'd probably never leave the White House because he'd be working too hard. Not quite what happened, is it? It will be interesting to see when his Presidency is done at the end of this year how much he cost the American taxpayers and how much the American taxpayers actually funded Trump's business. Not to mention other shady things like $17.2 million spent to land military planes at a small airport in Scotland, which of course was right near a golf resort Trump owns.

This is not true. If there was "corruption by his own appointees and from himself" there would have been no-knock raises by the FBI on the White House door. President Trump had his undies examined for 2.5 years and they came up with nuthin'.

Everything he's done with the Press in terms of his lack of transparency and other things like calling them the enemy of the people, which you see his supporters shouting at journalists consistently.

Where is the wild cheering gif? The "msm" are driving narratives, "social justice" initiatives, and the DNC annex. There are only a handful of honest reporters left at any of the news stations. The biggest positive of the Trump administration has been to show the US and the world, how partisan and outright dishonest the US press is.

An economy that is now in shambles after 3 years of riding the coattails of the previous Administration that rebuilt the economy from the last economic disaster, which is what Biden's Administration will have to start doing again in January.

Wow. Just wow.  Mr. Magic Wand led a great economy for Trump to ride his coattails? M'kay.

And now Trump is responsible for a virus that people were concerned was a bio-weapon? Trump was presiding over the best economy the US has ever had. And he shut it down because of concerns about a virus from China. How long it stayed shut down is on the governors. Some states have been open since the end of April, while other states are still not fully open. If your state is not fully open, call your governor's office to complain.

115,000 Americans dead in just 4 months and counting due in part to a President who was utterly unprepared due to his own ego and narcissism and even now seems to be in denial. Let's be honest, this is what's sealed his fate as a one term President already.

Again, wow.  President Trump handled the Wuhan virus fairly well. He allowed the state governors to lead, which is what federalism is. He acted as a wartime president and got companies quickly onboard to make PPE supplies, labs to research the virus and make testing kits, etc. If you think it is easy to make this happen in under a month for a virus that appeared that recently, you need to get out and get a job in the corporate world. You might then appreciate the sheer speed in which all this happened.

Should be have had 300M N95 masks in the vault? Should be have had 50K ventilators sitting in a warehouse? Maybe. Until you consider that NYS did have ventilators, but sold them due to obsolescence. The same would have happened to any federal stockpile. Would the bands have decomposed on the N95 masks? I do not know. Those we should have had more on.  Did Congress allot the money for those purchases and it was not fulfilled? If so, you do have an argument.

His handling of these protests in terms of both rhetoric and action.

Rhetoric? Huh? He told the governors to ask for help if they needed it. Again, see federalism. (I hope you do not teach civics or history)

Casting preemptive doubt on the democratic process foreshadowing a breaking of long tradition of the peaceful transfer of power from one President to another.

Huh? Obama did this when his administration staged a soft-coup against the incoming Trump administration. Your "preemptive doubt" is you watching CNN.






 

Just a couple of points (in red) added to your excellent response. 

[SectionC3]

15 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

Factless in Hawaii, still quoting talking points. 

 

Hey, at least he didn’t bring a wine cork to a sword fight.  Unlike someone else here. 

[SoCal Deek]

Speaking from the position of a higher wage earner I can assure you that my taxes were NOT cut by Donald Trump. They actually went way up! His elimination of the state and local write off absolutely hammered my return this year. Tax cuts for the rich is 100% FAKE NEWS.

[3rdnlng]

Just now, SectionC3 said:

 

Hey, at least he didn’t bring a wine cork to a sword fight.  Unlike someone else here. 

You still sniffing around my wine cork? 

[3rdnlng]

Just now, SoCal Deek said:

Speaking from the position of a higher wage earner I can assure you that my taxes were NOT cut by Donald Trump. They actually went way up! His elimination of the state and local write off absolutely hammered my return this year. Tax cuts for the rich is 100% FAKE NEWS.

That's because you live in a high tax state run by Democrats. States that have high real estate, sales and income taxes that exceed the federal deduction amounts screw their citizens not only on the first bite but with the second bite by the feds also. Give a great big assist to the "public service" unions.

[SectionC3]

11 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

You still sniffing around my wine cork? 

 

Not in the least.  But I’m glad that you finally came to terms with the fact that you have a wine cork.  Now the healing can begin!

[SoCal Deek]

1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said:

That's because you live in a high tax state run by Democrats. States that have high real estate, sales and income taxes that exceed the federal deduction amounts screw their citizens not only on the first bite but with the second bite by the feds also. Give a great big assist to the "public service" unions.

That’s absolutely correct. And many/most of the country’s higher wage earners live in these states. The idea that Trump favored the rich is absurd. What he actually did was to see if his policies would make the system fairer across the board by telling these high tax states you can’t get off paying federal taxes by allowing your citizens to swap their federal tax for local taxes. I’m actually in favor of his policy even though it hurt me badly!

[Doc]

24 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

You still sniffing around my wine cork? 

 

 

[Warren Zevon]

 

Bunker B word is projecting

[Doc]

Just now, Warren Zevon said:

 

Bunker B word is projecting

 

How do you figure?  Even if you believe Trump was in a bunker for one night because of violent protests, what does that make Biden, who's been in his basement bunker for months?  

[3rdnlng]

7 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

That’s absolutely correct. And many/most of the country’s higher wage earners live in these states. The idea that Trump favored the rich is absurd. What he actually did was to see if his policies would make the system fairer across the board by telling these high tax states you can’t get off paying federal taxes by allowing your citizens to swap their federal tax for local taxes. I’m actually in favor of his policy even though it hurt me badly!

States that kowtow to the public service unions are in a self fulfilling coupling that trades votes for unsustainable future commitments and power for the "elected". 

[Warren Zevon]

1 minute ago, Doc said:

 

How do you figure?  Even if you believe Trump was in a bunker for one night because of violent protests, what does that make Biden, who's been in his basement bunker for months?  

 

 

[B-Man]

Five ways America would take a hard left under Joe Biden

The Hill [DC], by Matt Schlapp

 

Original Article

 

While the coronavirus pandemic has impacted our way of life, it is thankfully still true that no one U.S. senator can make law in America. Most legislation, as infrequent as it occurs these days, is still the result of arduous negotiation and steadfast determination. But what if, for the moment, we consider what the world might look like if the vote of one senator prevailed above all others and he or she was able to single-handedly decide the direction of our country. 

[Deranged Rhino]

9 hours ago, reddogblitz said:

 

Really?

 

That's his go to move, because @transplantbillsfan is a racist. No one is more racist than white liberals, and Trans fits that bill. You didn't insert race into the equation. But he does -- all to defend Joe.