The Senator Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 1 minute ago, May Day 10 said: It has always been based on flagrancy/amount of 'carelessness'. 2 minutes for HS, double minor for blood, 5 minute major if severe violation. I always loved how hockey has a penalty tangibly based on if there is bleeding or not. Have to disagree - it was an automatic major if you drew blood. That’s why some guys were so good at biting thru their lip (Ray Bourque comes to mind). Obviously, you can score more goals in major than a double-minor, and some guys bleed more easily, maybe making the current rule more fair. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Since I recall (1987 through now, but more vividly perhaps 1990 on), the blood was to detect a double-minor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 25 minutes ago, May Day 10 said: Since I recall (1987 through now, but more vividly perhaps 1990 on), the blood was to detect a double-minor Correct. Blood has never been a qualification for a major penalty to the best of my knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Boston San Francisco (San Jose) The guy who killed the AAF Go Blues! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Remember when Toronto stuck a dagger in the Bruins game 1? Yeah I don’t either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 7 hours ago, Jukester said: Correct, horrible rule. If the guy can't get called for too many men on the ice then he is inactive as a player. Why should he qualify for Offside. Hate inconsisten schite like this in sports when common sense can't be used when making rules. And forget the fact that his skate looked like it was still on the blue line when the puck was in the zone. At worst, inconclusive. But the call was consistent. What your asking for is the ref to make a black and white call subjective. In effect, the exact opposite of consistency. My biggest problem with NHL officiating is the subjective nature of refereeing in the playoffs. What was illegal in the regular season is now ok in the playoffs. Refs now in the position to control the game by NOT calling all kinds of shite. Hell, I was screaming at the TV all series because the constant pick plays the Av's were running. Why no penalties? By trying to not have an impact on the game the refs are having the most impact by letting teams cheat. Really done with all the whining of calls made when all the other crap going on effects the game even more but not even mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 6 hours ago, May Day 10 said: I always loved how hockey has a penalty tangibly based on if there is bleeding or not. It is so weird...............And, I don't remember it in the 70s. Although maybe I just missed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Alright Canes, take the 3rd period... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Dammit... How in the ***** is that not a penalty... he was defenseless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Home job. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 15 minutes ago, T&C said: Dammit... How in the ***** is that not a penalty... he was defenseless. Bruins won again. Clean up that potty mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jukester Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Dante said: But the call was consistent. What your asking for is the ref to make a black and white call subjective. In effect, the exact opposite of consistency. My biggest problem with NHL officiating is the subjective nature of refereeing in the playoffs. What was illegal in the regular season is now ok in the playoffs. Refs now in the position to control the game by NOT calling all kinds of shite. Hell, I was screaming at the TV all series because the constant pick plays the Av's were running. Why no penalties? By trying to not have an impact on the game the refs are having the most impact by letting teams cheat. Really done with all the whining of calls made when all the other crap going on effects the game even more but not even mentioned. No, i'm saying if the player is inactive for one rule, be consistent and make him inactive for all rules. But i do agree with you on the double standard between reg season and playoffs. Case in point, tonight's Boston game. Been a beef of mine since i started watching hockey as a kid. Edited May 10, 2019 by Jukester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 11 hours ago, Jukester said: No, i'm saying if the player is inactive for one rule, be consistent and make him inactive for all rules. But i do agree with you on the double standard between reg season and playoffs. Case in point, tonight's Boston game. Been a beef of mine since i started watching hockey as a kid. I feel it puts the refs in a really bad position. In addition to making the correct calls, now they have to make decisions when to call them. The prevailing mentality for years has been "We (the refs) don't want to affect the game" "Let 'em play" Well, they are influencing the outcome by letting teams interfere, hold and obstruct or whatever it is. There is a faceoff in my end and the Avs win the draw. Puck goes back to the point and a Shark forward goes out to cover. Landescog cuts him off in the faceoff circle preventing him from defending. Avs Dman scored from the point. More subtle and less obvious than either the Shark offside call or the 5 min major vs Vegas but just as impactful as a goal was allowed when there should have been a call. This has always bothered me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 I still can’t believe that BOTH teams buffalo acquired 1st round picks from are playing against each other in the conference finals (giving them 2 of the last 4 picks in the 1st round). Thankfully we traded one one of the picks to Anaheim for Montour while it still had that value of the unknown. Unreal though. If that’s not buffalo luck, I don’t know what is. lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Couldn't fight it. Bought a couple of tix for game one. GO SHARKS! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 O'Reilly is a beast. Wish we could have players like that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 That steal and score by Mirier SP was sweet, one of the best goals I've seen so far in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted May 12, 2019 Author Share Posted May 12, 2019 On 5/10/2019 at 12:58 PM, Dante said: Couldn't fight it. Bought a couple of tix for game one. GO SHARKS! You are celebrating now! Two goals by Buffalo Bills fan Logan Couture! Sharks were on tonight, great win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Doc Brown said: O'Reilly is a beast. Wish we could have players like that. Sucking Fabres 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jukester Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Solid game by the Sharks last night. Hopefully Blues can take something from that third period and carry it forward to game 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 (edited) Canes should have put McElhinney back in today. Edited May 12, 2019 by Big C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 This game sucks so far. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 This is one of the worst power plays I've ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 2 hours ago, T&C said: This game sucks so far. Delicious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 On 5/9/2019 at 9:17 PM, Jukester said: No, i'm saying if the player is inactive for one rule, be consistent and make him inactive for all rules. But i do agree with you on the double standard between reg season and playoffs. Case in point, tonight's Boston game. Been a beef of mine since i started watching hockey as a kid. Why aren't the gates to each bench both in the neutral zone. That was a ridiculous reason to negate a goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 1 hour ago, CommonCents said: Delicious. Bruins fan? Not sure who here roots for who... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Walk outside from a 2-0 game for 5 minutes, walk back in and its 2-2... what a wonderful world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Carolina's deHaan scored two goals in a row; one for each team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 NIce first period. 2 goals only 4 shots allowed. Need another period like that and were good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 49 minutes ago, Dante said: NIce first period. 2 goals only 4 shots allowed. Need another period like that and were good! Only team left I can tolerate. Best of luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted May 16, 2019 Author Share Posted May 16, 2019 Wow! The Blues have every right to be furious, that looked like a hand pass. I'm thrilled the Sharks came back and won, but the controversial ending feels uneasy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChevyVanMiller Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: Wow! The Blues have every right to be furious, that looked like a hand pass. I'm thrilled the Sharks came back and won, but the controversial ending feels uneasy. That was a blatant hand pass. The Sharks must have pics of Bettman and a goat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted May 16, 2019 Author Share Posted May 16, 2019 Just now, ChevyVanMiller said: That was a blatant hand pass. The Sharks must have pics of Bettman and a goat. Which is why I hate that this non-call takes away from the Sharks persevering and forcing this game into overtime. That is the play that everyone will remember. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Sharks getting some good luck, but I think they are better equipped to beat the Bruins so... It looked like it wasn't an intentional hand pass. He batted it down and tried to make a play on it himself but he didn't. I like these Sharks but I hate that they have been winning with so much controversy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-baby! Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 47 minutes ago, Big C said: Sharks getting some good luck, but I think they are better equipped to beat the Bruins so... It looked like it wasn't an intentional hand pass. He batted it down and tried to make a play on it himself but he didn't. I like these Sharks but I hate that they have been winning with so much controversy. Intentional has nothing to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 1 hour ago, BigMcD said: Intentional has nothing to do with it. I am aware. I can see how the refs may have missed it because in real time it could have looked like he batted the puck down and swatted it with his stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 (edited) How is that play not reviewable? It's just embarassing for the NHL to have a replay system in place that makes a hand pass that leads to a goal unreviewable. It's a shame too because it was a great game and comeback in the last minute by the Sharks. Edited May 16, 2019 by Doc Brown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkreed Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Just saw a replay. That is the most blatant thing I have seen. (Yes I realize intent doesn't matter, but at full speed it was obvious). Wow. That needs to be reviewable, no doubt. Really though, I don't care if it's the third OT of game 7 of the finals, that needs to be called. It's just like Offside for a linesman. Hand passes are not a usual put your whistle in your pocket non call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Please, no more reviewable plays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 1 hour ago, May Day 10 said: Please, no more reviewable plays i would do away with replay in all sports..hate it. unfortunately, this will not lead to way more in the NHL..including all 5-minute majors. Wonder if they will always include a replay for a major not called? @Dante, man do your boys gut a rabbit foot stuffed up their arse this playoff year 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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