YoloinOhio Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 (edited) This is the organization that seemed to just want to forget 2018 ever happened. They didn’t get the QB they wanted in the draft, settled for a different one which seemed forced, GM got arrested, they signed Sam Bradford to a $20 mill contract and then cut him after like 3 games, fired their OC mid season and fired their HC after one year. So while it’s unconventional I wouldn’t be surprised to see then discard Rosen too and start over. Edited March 4, 2019 by YoloinOhio 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 1 hour ago, blacklabel said: Sounds like an interesting premise but this Kelly dude has unloaded some whoppers before so we'll see what happens. Speaking of whoppers, did anyone catch that speculated trade scenario involving Buffalo, Jacksonville and Philly? I'm pretty sure it was just conjecture but it proposed a three-way trade which would involve Shady, Foles and Leonard Fournette. I'm not sure which way they had the trades lined up but it would be something like Shady to Philly for Foles and then Foles to Jacksonville for Fournette. That sort of trade scenario is utter nonsense 19 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: This is the organization that seemed to just want to forget 2018 ever happened. They didn’t get the QB they wanted in the draft, settled for a different one which seemed forced, GM got arrested, they signed Sam Bradford to a $20 mill contract and then cut him after like 3 games, fired their OC mid season and fired their HC after one year. So while it’s unconventional I wouldn’t be surprised to see then discard Rosen too and start over. Woah- when you string it all together it looks like the whole franchise has CTE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubbaT Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said: So how does all this affect the Bills chances of getting a trade down partner? I'm not sure it kills it since there may be 1 team left out of the revolving QB situation that needs to get into the mix for say the kid from Duke as sort of the last round 1 guy. I think, however, the more likely trade down partner is someone that falls in love with the talent that is falling as the QB's fill up the top 10. There may be 4-5-6 guys coming down that are really good and no one thought they had a chance for. Maybe a team LOVES one of them and thinks this is a chance we didnt anticipate having. Let's try to move up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 We can only hope that a couple, or more, teams over-reach at the top of the draft for QB’s leaving us better choices at #9. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Just now, Over 29 years of fanhood said: That sort of trade scenario is utter nonsense Consider the source. Kelly is a hack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 49 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I certainly think that they are a negative for Rosen. I wouldn't quite go as far as pretty damning. I think people are very fast to write him off... those people may include the Cardinals front office. But I still suspect in the long run he will show he can play. Did you see recent posts in the Arizona/Murray thread? Rosen's trade value may be as low as a 3rd -- for a guy just drafted in the top 10 last season. Now, he may still show "he can play" in the league but he did not impress anyone last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Omar Kelly once admitted that he scouts upcoming Dolphins opponents as well as potential free agent additions by looking at their ratings on Madden. I'm serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, eball said: Did you see recent posts in the Arizona/Murray thread? Rosen's trade value may be as low as a 3rd -- for a guy just drafted in the top 10 last season. Now, he may still show "he can play" in the league but he did not impress anyone last season. He did not impress anyone. But he did not play as badly as the narrative either. I know Bills fans want to believe he totally sucks, but he doesn't. As a passer he was pretty similar to our own Quarterback. If someone gets Josh Rosen for a 3rd that team has had a proper result. I suspect he costs more than that though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, BUFFALOBART said: Alex Smith may never play again. Right. He'll be sitting behind Colt McCoy and be given every opportunity to surpass him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 6 hours ago, mannc said: Nor did he show that he’s not. And he’s 10 months removed from being no. 10 overall. Which means they won't get a first rounder. Nobody is going to give up a first for an unproven guy unless they are drafting him themselves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 20 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said: We can only hope that a couple, or more, teams over-reach at the top of the draft for QB’s leaving us better choices at #9. We are in a good spot. I think Murray and Haskins go before we pick. And if Drew Lock really is the apple of the Broncos' eye, anybody who wants to jump them would be calling us. I like where we are. Bosa Williams Allen Oliver Wilkins White Gary One of these guys has to be on the board at 9 with 2 QBs going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: No, I think it’s more about the coaching/scheme. Kliff wanting his guy. If it happens. 1 hour ago, MrEpsYtown said: If all this Murray stuff is true, it's just coaching change stuff. Kingsbury knows what type of quarterback he wanst for his system, and apparently Rosen is not it. It's just simply the effect of a regime change. The Cardinals would have zero leverage. And honestly, most teams can just decide turn around and draft a guy instead. It's terrible timing for a trade imo. I know I ragged on Rosen but because we are supposed to have the Lesser Josh. Well good luck to him wherever he goes Except to Miami or NE***** 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: This is the organization that seemed to just want to forget 2018 ever happened. They didn’t get the QB they wanted in the draft, settled for a different one which seemed forced, GM got arrested, they signed Sam Bradford to a $20 mill contract and then cut him after like 3 games, fired their OC mid season and fired their HC after one year. So while it’s unconventional I wouldn’t be surprised to see then discard Rosen too and start over. Jesus and I thought the Browns were dysfunctional 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Our local radio host who was reporting from the combine said that he heard Murray was aloof and uninterested in his combine interviews and most believe it’s because he’s been told already by Arizona that he’s going #1 and only needs to impress 1 team. It’s also why he didn’t do any drills or workouts. If the Cards want to put all their eggs in the basket Of a HC who was sub 500 in college and fired from his alma mater and a very small QB who has 1 year of starting experience .... well they say swing for the fences, I guess. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Very Interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 What's Tanny worth these days? a 5th? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Just now, eball said: What's Tanny worth these days? a 5th? I don’t know but I hope he goes to Washington since we play them this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, eball said: What's Tanny worth these days? a 5th? what street corner is he / she on? oops I thought I read Tranny Edited March 4, 2019 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Y. Orangeman Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 It would be incredible if we could pull of a Browns/Osweiller type of deal this offseason. I'm beginning to believe we'll try to keep quite a bit of powder dry for our upcoming second contracts and this would be a great way to get some value in the short term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 17 hours ago, No Place To Hyde said: Yes, everything here is what has already been rumored. When Omar tries to have an original thought this is what comes out: Literally tweeted this on 4-20. This all makes sense now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dkollidas Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 1 minute ago, BillsShredder83 said: Literally tweeted this on 4-20. This all makes sense now Wow... that’s really really bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DasNootz Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 19 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Yes, he is. But everything he said is out there already ... so he’s just repeating it all. I have heard Tyrod to Philly I think Tyrod back to Baltimore makes a lot of sense. He's a great back-up option/mentor for Jackson and he's had success with Roman in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 12 minutes ago, DasNootz said: I think Tyrod back to Baltimore makes a lot of sense. He's a great back-up option/mentor for Jackson and he's had success with Roman in the past. It does but RG3 under contract for another year. They may just stick with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Trading for Ryan Tannehill is the most redskins thing to do. I feel like they're the person who got hurt bad by a SO and now they're just a history of failed relationships and rebounds and bad ideas. (RG3 being the one that got away) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said: We are in a good spot. I think Murray and Haskins go before we pick. And if Drew Lock really is the apple of the Broncos' eye, anybody who wants to jump them would be calling us. I like where we are. Bosa Williams Allen Oliver Wilkins White Gary One of these guys has to be on the board at 9 with 2 QBs going. I think 2 QBs are almost certainly going top 8, the question becomes does a 3rd or maybe even a 4th sneak in there. 13 minutes ago, whatdrought said: Trading for Ryan Tannehill is the most redskins thing to do. I feel like they're the person who got hurt bad by a SO and now they're just a history of failed relationships and rebounds and bad ideas. (RG3 being the one that got away) There's already been soo much smoke around the Redskins & Rosen. Even if Alex Smith comes back he's certainly not a long term option. They could very easily see #15 for Rosen & maybe a ~4th as their best/only avenue to add a young (at one time) highly thought of prospect. Edited March 4, 2019 by Chuck Wagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said: There's already been soo much smoke around the Redskins & Rosen. Even if Alex Smith comes back he's certainly not a long term option. They could very easily see #15 for Rosen & maybe a ~4th as their best/only avenue to add a young (at one time) highly thought of prospect. I don't see any way that Josh Rosen goes for a first round pick... That would be crazy to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSB2020 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 I don't like Rosen at all, but I'd be shocked if he didn't fetch a first. Maybe a first NEXT year, but I think people will be surprised if they expect him to go for a 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 11 hours ago, CommonCents said: Omar reminds me of a drunk message board poster. Seems like he is just bashing the fins. Not that there is anything wrong with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 46 minutes ago, whatdrought said: I don't see any way that Josh Rosen goes for a first round pick... That would be crazy to me. It wouldn't shock me. People are acting like he's Ryan Leaf 2.0 I think the majority of the league can see Arizona is a dumpster fire and them moving from Rosen doesn't make him worth a 3rd round pick. #15 for Rosen & #65 doesn't feel wildly out of line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said: It wouldn't shock me. People are acting like he's Ryan Leaf 2.0 I think the majority of the league can see Arizona is a dumpster fire and them moving from Rosen doesn't make him worth a 3rd round pick. #15 for Rosen & #65 doesn't feel wildly out of line. It's the new car thing. As soon as you drive it off the lot it looses a bunch of value. get into a wreck with it and it loses more value- doesn't matter whose fault the wreck is. For the first time in a decade, QB's are relatively plentiful in the NFL landscape. Rosen performed horribly throughout last year (with a terrible cast around him for sure) and he was billeted as the most pro ready of the 5 first rounders. He didn't show that. He didn't show a comprehension of the game. Also, if the cardinals are shopping him they have to trade him. That's a terrible place to be in from a negotiation perspective. I expect he'll get a 2nd on the open market. Edited March 4, 2019 by whatdrought 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Is Arizona smart enough to pull a long con? (taking a QB @ #1) there are teams that could be dumb enough to fall for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 no one needs to worry about getting Dak Prescott in free agency anytime soon. Dallas Cowboys Prepared to Pay Dak Prescott $30 Million Annually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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