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3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

He has average size and was one of many WRs on his team so production was there but not “wow”, and not the most “gifted” (i.e. he is overshadowed by Parris Campbell) so he’s looked at differently. He’s not the explosive type and doesn’t have exceptional size, which typically one or both will make a WR a 1st round talent - Or you can be smaller but have all world speed, and/or production vs top corners. I think he did avg 20 yards/catch, but he wasn’t #1 WR in college so most wouldn’t project him to be one in the nfl.  He only played one year in a real passing offense so his #s aren’t what some others will be. All of that said, his film should match what we saw this week. He was always making plays. 

 

  Love him as a fit for the Bills because of his expertise as a special teams ace at Ohio. WR depth is a bonus.

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20 minutes ago, BillsClinton said:

 

I prefer Crosby, Stills, and Nash.

 

Tyson Crosby?  Kenny Stills and Rick Nash? 

 

Pretty sure Nash just retired due to concussions,  doubtful hes willing to play football now. 

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I really like Andy Isabella. He's had great production despite his size, inclusing against top competition. Forget measurables, he'll be a star for somebody. He's one of those non-first round guys that just screams success at the next level, that we ususally pass on. I remember having the same feeling about Jordy Nelson.

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10 hours ago, Buffalo Junction said:

This. I’ve spent the past three years living outside of Durham and watching a ton of Wolfpack games. Bradbury is probably the best center prospect in the draft. It’s amazing how technically proficient the kid is considering he’s only been an o lineman for three years. As good a prospect as he is there’s still a lot of room to improve. Bonus is that he has a similar disposition to K Williams. The only thing I’d worry about is scheme fit. I doubt he’ll ever be a power guy with his frame. 

 

Also, keep an eye on Udoh. Elon is a small Christian school in N.C. The kid’s lacking in technique, but he has all the physical tools. Could be a late round prospect.

 

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On 1/24/2019 at 9:11 PM, whatdrought said:

 

I wouldn't mind having him. He is definitely more than a Welker/ Edelman. He's got wheels and actually has range. 

 

I wouldn't mind a big bodied guy like Harmon or Arcega-Whiteside (or Johnson even) in the second, and the Isabella in the third. 

Your right he's more like Victor Cruz

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Listening to Mel Kiper radio show:

-Montez sweat 1st rounder

-QBs not impressive. Daniel Jones not good. Allen and mayfield at last years senior bowl were light years ahead of this year’s group. He doesn’t see a clear 3rd qb behind Haskins and Murray in the draft 

-terry McLaurin went from a 3rd-4th rounder to a 2. Fastest guy on the field, caught everything 

-penny hart and lindstrom were standouts on each side 

-Saunders from W Illinois  did a great job 

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17 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Listening to Mel Kiper radio show:

-Montez sweat 1st rounder

-QBs not impressive. Daniel Jones not good. Allen and mayfield at last years senior bowl were light years ahead of this year’s group. He doesn’t see a clear 3rd qb behind Haskins and Murray in the draft 

-terry McLaurin went from a 3rd-4th rounder to a 2. Fastest guy on the field, caught everything 

-penny hart and lindstrom were standouts on each side 

-Saunders from W Illinois  did a great job 

 

1 hour ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

Dang didn't anyone watch the game.

 

 

I watched it, and I agree with Kiper, overall QB play was awful.

 

Andy Isabella looked very good, as did Terry Mclaurin and I also liked the play of West Virginia WR David Sills. I would love to see Clemson WR Hunter Renfrow in a Bills uniform.

 

Dalton Risner looked good. May not be the best O-Lineman in the draft, but he may very well be a first round pick.

 

Not impressed by any of the Tight Ends today, although that could be a result of today's QB play. Not much to cheer about today's running backs either.

 

There were a lot of penalties today too.

 

Other players that I thought did good today:

C Garrett Bradbury North Carolina State

WR Keelan Doss UC Davis

WR Jakobi Meyers North Carolina State

CB Lonnie Johnson, Jr. Kentucky

S Jaquan Johnson Miami(FLA)

DT Kingsley Keke Texas A&M

DE Montez Sweat Mississippi State

DE Jaylon Ferguson Louisiana Tech

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5 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

Leydard high on one of my favorites, Isabella.

 

Says he did everything that I had seen from him which is easily separate from anyone covering him.   If Bills dont pick him with 2nd round choice, I dont believe he will be there for their 3rd.  

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6 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

agree with the weird hate on Isabella. He kept making moves to get open and the talking heads were like just rip it?? Im like no, juking and cutting is how you get open in the NFL.

 

 

Isabella is legit. From what I saw, the kid has very big legs. It’s hard to tell on TV but the kid looks strong for only being 5’9”. It’s no surprise he broke Tackles on that WR down screen for a TD. He looks like he can drag players who go high. You are definitely going to have to wrap him up.

 

His route running is great and he does get open. He fast too, he was actually out running a lot of the deep routes, they were under thrown.

 

 

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1 hour ago, FeelingOnYouboty said:

We better Draft that Australian punter who was booming punts all week. Throw one of our 5th rounders for him.

Was that Wishnowsky?  Utah punter?

 

That kid can kick the ball. In warmups that kid was consistently kicking it from the 25 to inside the opposite 10 yard line like 65 yards in the air. It was impressive. In my write up I mentioned he definitely get drafted. Big kid 6’2” 220.

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8 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

agree with the weird hate on Isabella. He kept making moves to get open and the talking heads were like just rip it?? Im like no, juking and cutting is how you get open in the NFL.

 

 

I could see this guy being a big time play maker in the NFL...I hope the Bills don’t pass on him just because of his size and small school...this is the kind of receiver JA needs imo- a guy that helps move the chains consistently.

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5 minutes ago, JaCrispy said:

I could see this guy being a big time play maker in the NFL...I hope the Bills don’t pass on him just because of his size and small school...this is the kind of receiver JA needs imo- a guy that helps move the chains consistently.

 

That's the thing, I hope that we don't get too caught up with perceived "draft grade".   People like to pigeon hole these short slot sort of receivers with mid round sort of grades.  The dude is a gamer, he balled out against top competition, he balled out against highly ranked DB's in college, he balled out up against Senior Bowl DB's.   He's incredibly twitchy, can separate against anyone, has phenomenal top line speed, I wouldn't be surprised if he times in the low 4.4's possibly high 4.3's .   He has great balance and as you stated he isn't some sort of Roscoe Parrish sort of guy to where you can easily wrap him up with an arm tackle, he breaks tackles.   Which is why if used properly this guy could be handed off the rock 4-7 times a game on all sort of designed runs and I don't mean just Jet sweeps.

 

If he was with the Patriots or Saints he would touch the ball 15+ times a game, I have no doubt of that.   That's why I think the Bills should draft him with their 2nd round pick and if not then look to trade back into the 2nd round to get him.   He's going to make a team a very happy camper.

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16 hours ago, Mark Vader said:

 

I watched it, and I agree with Kiper, overall QB play was awful.

 

Andy Isabella looked very good, as did Terry Mclaurin and I also liked the play of West Virginia WR David Sills. I would love to see Clemson WR Hunter Renfrow in a Bills uniform.

 

Dalton Risner looked good. May not be the best O-Lineman in the draft, but he may very well be a first round pick.

 

Not impressed by any of the Tight Ends today, although that could be a result of today's QB play. Not much to cheer about today's running backs either.

 

There were a lot of penalties today too.

 

Other players that I thought did good today:

C Garrett Bradbury North Carolina State

WR Keelan Doss UC Davis

WR Jakobi Meyers North Carolina State

CB Lonnie Johnson, Jr. Kentucky

S Jaquan Johnson Miami(FLA)

DT Kingsley Keke Texas A&M

DE Montez Sweat Mississippi State

DE Jaylon Ferguson Louisiana Tech

 

its harder for offense to jell in these games but the QB and TE talent weren't there either .

11 hours ago, 1ZAYDAY1 said:

Isabella is legit. From what I saw, the kid has very big legs. It’s hard to tell on TV but the kid looks strong for only being 5’9”. It’s no surprise he broke Tackles on that WR down screen for a TD. He looks like he can drag players who go high. You are definitely going to have to wrap him up.

 

His route running is great and he does get open. He fast too, he was actually out running a lot of the deep routes, they were under thrown.

 

 

 

Good, Allen needs a good target down field (and all over the field)

 

 

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9 hours ago, JaCrispy said:

I could see this guy being a big time play maker in the NFL...I hope the Bills don’t pass on him just because of his size and small school...this is the kind of receiver JA needs imo- a guy that helps move the chains consistently.

 

We went with Allen from a small school so i dont see that being a problem. Just depends on where we and he are in the draft.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

We went with Allen from a small school so i dont see that being a problem. Just depends on where we and he are in the draft.

 

 

Like a poster said earlier, I think I would take him with our 2nd round pick... if we can trade up for Zay in the 2nd, we can definitely take Isabella...he is a bigger playmaker than Zay imo.

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1 hour ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

its harder for offense to jell in these games but the QB and TE talent weren't there either .

 

Good, Allen needs a good target down field (and all over the field)

 

 

An all over the field target would be Hunter Renfrow. Draft him.

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17 hours ago, Mark Vader said:

 

I watched it, and I agree with Kiper, overall QB play was awful.

 

Andy Isabella looked very good, as did Terry Mclaurin and I also liked the play of West Virginia WR David Sills. I would love to see Clemson WR Hunter Renfrow in a Bills uniform.

 

Dalton Risner looked good. May not be the best O-Lineman in the draft, but he may very well be a first round pick.

 

Not impressed by any of the Tight Ends today, although that could be a result of today's QB play. Not much to cheer about today's running backs either.

 

There were a lot of penalties today too.

 

Other players that I thought did good today:

C Garrett Bradbury North Carolina State

WR Keelan Doss UC Davis

WR Jakobi Meyers North Carolina State

CB Lonnie Johnson, Jr. Kentucky

S Jaquan Johnson Miami(FLA)

DT Kingsley Keke Texas A&M

DE Montez Sweat Mississippi State

DE Jaylon Ferguson Louisiana Tech

Jakobi Meyers is one to keep an eye on.  Watching Kelvin Harmon game tape and Meyers pops out as a good possession option.  Isnt as big as Harmon but seemed like the go to for Finley.

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Great 2nd round pick. might have to trade up but the Bills have the firepower.

Chris Lindstrom, IOL, Boston College

Just dominated all game long. Didn’t give an inch in pass protection in the snaps I saw, and was consistently moving people in the run game. Just like his tape. Just like his week of practice. Lindstrom needs a lot more hype in this class. It’s a weak interior offensive line class, and Lindstrom looks like a sure-fire starter from day one.

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13 hours ago, 1ZAYDAY1 said:

Isabella is legit. From what I saw, the kid has very big legs. It’s hard to tell on TV but the kid looks strong for only being 5’9”. It’s no surprise he broke Tackles on that WR down screen for a TD. He looks like he can drag players who go high. You are definitely going to have to wrap him up.

 

His route running is great and he does get open. He fast too, he was actually out running a lot of the deep routes, they were under thrown.

 

 

 

For the love of all that is Holy, please keep him away from Brady! 

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10 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

For the love of all that is Holy, please keep him away from Brady! 

The good thing is that Dabol runs a similar offense, so hopefully he is looking for a similar type of player that has helped make NE successful for so long.

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