Game of Thrones - And Now Our Watch Has Ended!

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What if Bran was sitting out there in the courtyard all day and night staring at everyone because no one in winterfell thought to make ramps so he could get back inside?

3:48 PM · Apr 15, 2019 · Twitter for Android

[Nanker]

10 Grateful Dead references in GOT.

 

Enjoy. 

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5 hours ago, LBSeeBallLBGetBall said:

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What if Bran was sitting out there in the courtyard all day and night staring at everyone because no one in winterfell thought to make ramps so he could get back inside?

3:48 PM · Apr 15, 2019 · Twitter for Android

 

Bran should really get a lawyer.  Winterfell is way out of compliance with the Westerosians With Disabilities Act

[Nanker]

12 hours ago, /dev/null said:

 

Bran should really get a lawyer.  Winterfell is way out of compliance with the Westerosians With Disabilities Act

Things just haven't been the same since he left Hodor behind.

[ricojes]

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

1 hour ago, ricojes said:

 

so true.   Jamie has become likable through some sense of honor. 

 

[section122]

3 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

 

so true.   Jamie has become likable through some sense of honor. 

 

 

I disagree.  Jamie is still loyal to the Lannisters and I think his "redemption" is not going to happen.  I also think Tyrion and Varys are up to no good.

 

Every time they cut to creepy Bran I think it was him knowing that the person had ill intentions.

 

My favorite from last night:

 

Cersei:  If you want a ***** buy one, if you want a queen earn one

Also Cersei: Lets Euron hit it for free.

 

I don't think she is going to use Euron to say that the baby is his instead of Jamie's.  I think she is trying to actually get pregnant to keep the lie going with Jamie.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

6 minutes ago, section122 said:

 

I disagree.  Jamie is still loyal to the Lannisters and I think his "redemption" is not going to happen.  I also think Tyrion and Varys are up to no good.

 

Every time they cut to creepy Bran I think it was him knowing that the person had ill intentions.

 

My favorite from last night:

 

Cersei:  If you want a ***** buy one, if you want a queen earn one

Also Cersei: Lets Euron hit it for free.

 

I don't think she is going to use Euron to say that the baby is his instead of Jamie's.  I think she is trying to actually get pregnant to keep the lie going with Jamie.

 

He's done with Cersei.      The only other Lannister is Tyrion 

 

She told both  or indicated as much to Jamie and Tryion that she was pregnant 

[section122]

1 minute ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

 

He's done with Cersei.      The only other Lannister is Tyrion 

 

She told both  or indicated as much to Jamie and Tryion that she was pregnant 

 

Eh we will see.  I think people want a redemption for him more than I see it happening.  If they do defeat the WW what becomes of Jamie?  He can't stay in the North where he is despised, he is still the General of the Lannister Army, in the middle of last season he tried to kill Danaerys, etc.  Once the WW are defeated do you think he bends the knee for Dany?

 

She did tell both of them that she was pregnant but I'm with Sansa that she is fos on that one.

 

One last thing...  I was a little annoyed by this whole mad at Jon because he bent the knee.  It should be clear to everyone that he is banging Dany (and it is to some including Sansa).  Which likely would lead to them being married.  Then they would both be king and queen.  Who cares that he bent the knee?  It seems like drama that wouldn't and shouldn't actually exist.  The whole idea that he is the rightful heir to the throne and she isn't doesn't matter as they would likely rule together.  Seems much ado about nothing.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

36 minutes ago, section122 said:

 

Eh we will see.  I think people want a redemption for him more than I see it happening.  If they do defeat the WW what becomes of Jamie?  He can't stay in the North where he is despised, he is still the General of the Lannister Army, in the middle of last season he tried to kill Danaerys, etc.  Once the WW are defeated do you think he bends the knee for Dany?

 

She did tell both of them that she was pregnant but I'm with Sansa that she is fos on that one.

 

One last thing...  I was a little annoyed by this whole mad at Jon because he bent the knee.  It should be clear to everyone that he is banging Dany (and it is to some including Sansa).  Which likely would lead to them being married.  Then they would both be king and queen.  Who cares that he bent the knee?  It seems like drama that wouldn't and shouldn't actually exist.  The whole idea that he is the rightful heir to the throne and she isn't doesn't matter as they would likely rule together.  Seems much ado about nothing.

 

To survive the north he will have to bend the knee to Dany  (or the rightful King - Jon) 

[/dev/null]

4 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

 

To survive the north he will have to bend the knee to Dany 

 

i got something else to bend on dany

 

[stony]

6 hours ago, section122 said:

 

I disagree.  Jamie is still loyal to the Lannisters and I think his "redemption" is not going to happen.  I also think Tyrion and Varys are up to no good.

 

Every time they cut to creepy Bran I think it was him knowing that the person had ill intentions.

 

My favorite from last night:

 

Cersei:  If you want a ***** buy one, if you want a queen earn one

Also Cersei: Lets Euron hit it for free.

 

I don't think she is going to use Euron to say that the baby is his instead of Jamie's.  I think she is trying to actually get pregnant to keep the lie going with Jamie.

Cersei has a contract on Jaimie's head.  I doubt he's loyal to her.  Also, we need to separate the Lannister's from Cersei at this point.  They're different entities. 

[LeGOATski]

14 hours ago, section122 said:

One last thing...  I was a little annoyed by this whole mad at Jon because he bent the knee.  It should be clear to everyone that he is banging Dany (and it is to some including Sansa).  Which likely would lead to them being married.  Then they would both be king and queen.  Who cares that he bent the knee?  It seems like drama that wouldn't and shouldn't actually exist.  The whole idea that he is the rightful heir to the throne and she isn't doesn't matter as they would likely rule together.  Seems much ado about nothing.

Nothing's ever certain and who knows how long you'll live in Westeros. By bending the knee, he just gave up the North. They didn't want to be ruled by a monarch in King's Landing or from across the sea. They wanted the North to be its own kingdom again.

 

It's still a short-sighted complaint, considering that they're basically facing the apocalypse. 

[BuffaloHokie13]

19 hours ago, /dev/null said:

 

i got something else to bend on dany

 

If we're getting to that point bending sounds painful.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

22 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:

If we're getting to that point bending sounds painful.

 

or he needs those little blue pills 

[Nanker]

"Every man thinks his dwarf son is a bastard." Tyrion Lannister 

 

Tyrion might indeed be the bastard son of the Mad King. 

That might make him the heir to the throne more so than Jon (Aegon). 

 

Tryion, Jon, and Danaerys all had mothers who died at their birth.

 

The preview showed Danaerys speaking to Jamie and saying that she and her brother used to sit up nights talking about what they would do if they ever caught the man who killed their father. 

[Rockpile233]

I always loved the Tyrion is Targ theory, but I just don’t see a lot of opportunity left to really develop that. The books did more to play that up than the show in my opinion.

 

I just don’t see it happening, we are running out of rope. 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

1 hour ago, Rockpile233 said:

I always loved the Tyrion is Targ theory, but I just don’t see a lot of opportunity left to really develop that. The books did more to play that up than the show in my opinion.

 

I just don’t see it happening, we are running out of rope. 

It would have been cool for him to ride a dragon.  

But the 2 live ones are taken 

[Doc Brown]

7 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

It would have been cool for him to ride a dragon.  

But the 2 live ones are taken 

It's possible the third head of the dragon is The Night King and Tyrion being a Targ is just a popular fan theory (or it comes to fruition in the book but not the series).

[Turk71]

9 hours ago, Nanker said:

"Every man thinks his dwarf son is a bastard." Tyrion Lannister 

 

Tyrion might indeed be the bastard son of the Mad King. 

That might make him the heir to the throne more so than Jon (Aegon). 

 

Tryion, Jon, and Danaerys all had mothers who died at their birth.

 

The preview showed Danaerys speaking to Jamie and saying that she and her brother used to sit up nights talking about what they would do if they ever caught the man who killed their father. 

I don't think bastard sons are in line for the throne, Jon is not a bastard Targ.

Edited April 19, 2019 by Turk71

[Rockpile233]

7 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

It's possible the third head of the dragon is The Night King and Tyrion being a Targ is just a popular fan theory (or it comes to fruition in the book but not the series).

I saw a pretty convincing theory yesterday on the Night King being a Targ. All related to a few different theories I’ve seen on the spiral imagery.

 

I’ve seen so many well reasoned theories this week that can’t all be true. I like this one more as it could still be developed through Bran.

 

 

 

 

[May Day 10]

Tyrion sitting the throne wouldnt make sense from his character's standpoint.  

 

As hand, no matter what he did to temper his sister's impulses and take care of/feed the people... and despite almost single-handedly saving the city from a brutal sacking.... the common people hated his guts more than anyone.

 

IMO his character will either have to die saving Jaime (or maybe the Targs).... or find true love, inherit Casterly Rock, and live happily ever after.

[eball]

After last week's Winterfell reunion/setup episode things should really pick up this week.  Can't wait for the Jaime/Dany/Bran scene.

[K-9]

1 hour ago, May Day 10 said:

Tyrion sitting the throne wouldnt make sense from his character's standpoint.  

 

As hand, no matter what he did to temper his sister's impulses and take care of/feed the people... and despite almost single-handedly saving the city from a brutal sacking.... the common people hated his guts more than anyone.

 

IMO his character will either have to die saving Jaime (or maybe the Targs).... or find true love, inherit Casterly Rock, and live happily ever after.

There’s no “happily ever after” in GoT. 

 

And we we are all gonna be pissed at the end when Bran wakes up from a dream next to Bob Newhart.

[DC Tom]

4 minutes ago, K-9 said:

And we we are all gonna be pissed at the end when Bran wakes up from a dream next to Bob Newhart.

 

I said the exact same thing at work yesterday. 

 

Or cut to Tyrion playing with a snow globe of King's Landing, with Jaime commenting to Cersei "What's he thinking about?"

[eball]

32 minutes ago, K-9 said:

There’s no “happily ever after” in GoT. 

 

And we we are all gonna be pissed at the end when Bran wakes up from a dream next to Bob Newhart.

 

25 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

I said the exact same thing at work yesterday. 

 

Or cut to Tyrion playing with a snow globe of King's Landing, with Jaime commenting to Cersei "What's he thinking about?"

 

There's a special place in hell for you two...

[DC Tom]

57 minutes ago, eball said:

 

 

There's a special place in hell for you two...

 

I'm not necessarily saying it should end that way...but as an after-credits shot?

 

Or even better, George R. R. Martin playing with a snow globe of King's Landing, and Jaime comments to Cersei "I wonder if he'll ever be finished with that?"

[Doc Brown]

23 hours ago, Nanker said:

"Every man thinks his dwarf son is a bastard." Tyrion Lannister 

 

Tyrion might indeed be the bastard son of the Mad King. 

That might make him the heir to the throne more so than Jon (Aegon). 

 

Tryion, Jon, and Danaerys all had mothers who died at their birth.

 

The preview showed Danaerys speaking to Jamie and saying that she and her brother used to sit up nights talking about what they would do if they ever caught the man who killed their father. 

Also, Tyrion looks more like a Targaryan than a Lannister in the books (his hair is supposed to be the same color as Dany's).  Tyrion had "dragon dreams" as a child.  All three felt an instant connection in the show.  THIS THEORY WILL HAPPEN IN THE BOOKS DAMN IT!!!

 

The show threw a wrench into the whole theory by the Night King killing Viserion, resurrecting him, and then riding him to tear down the wall.  It's hard for Tyrion to be the third head of the dragon when the dragon is a white walker.  One wild card is Melisandre who said she'd come back to Westeros one last time to die.  Maybe she can somehow resurrect Viserion.

[/dev/null]

3 hours ago, DC Tom said:

 

I'm not necessarily saying it should end that way...but as an after-credits shot?

 

Or even better, George R. R. Martin playing with a snow globe of King's Landing, and Jaime comments to Cersei "I wonder if he'll ever be finished with that?"

 

Or the imminent destruction of the North.  The Army of the Dead marching on Winterfell.  The night king astride his undead dragon ready to strike

 

The battle is lost.  Eescape for Jon, Dany, and the the living seemed hopeless.  When suddenly, the animator suffered a fatal heart attack.

The CGI peril was no more

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

25 hours 25 minutes 

 

if Jamie goes on trial do the walkers attack in E2 or E3?

 

[Doc Brown]

4 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

25 hours 25 minutes 

 

if Jamie goes on trial do the walkers attack in E2 or E3?

 

This is the last episode under an hour so I doubt we'll see a major battle.  Episode three at the earliest is my guess..  The one valuable thing Jaime brings with him is the knowledge that Cersei has no intention on joining forces to take on the army of the dead.  However, he did kill Dany's father, the Queen of Thornes, and tried to kill Dany's dragon so she pry isn't a fan of his.  He tried to kill Bran and killed the Karstark kid so his only friend there is Brienne (maybe Tyrion?).  I'm not even sure Bran tells his siblings Jaime pushed him out of the tree.  Bran is basically Spock now so he won't let emotion get in the way of Jaime's fate.  Bran may see that Jaime still has a role to play and saves him from Dany's wrath.  I'm assuming Bran has seen some of the good things that Jaime has done like saving thousands of lives.

 

Here's some questions I have going into the episode:

-Does Jon tell Dany about his true parentage and will she believe him?  If she does, how will she take the news?  Jon spent his entire life with a bastard's mind set and has no interest in power.  Dany has been obsessed with wanting to sit on the Iron Throne since season 1.

-Why did Bran make it a priority for Jon to learn the truth about his real parents?

-When will the Cleganebowl take place?

[/dev/null]

5 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

if Jamie goes on trial do the walkers attack in E2 or E3?

 

6 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

This is the last episode under an hour so I doubt we'll see a major battle.  Episode three at the earliest is my guess..  The one valuable thing Jaime brings with him is the knowledge that Cersei has no intention on joining forces to take on the army of the dead.  However, he did kill Dany's father, the Queen of Thornes, and tried to kill Dany's dragon so she pry isn't a fan of his.  He tried to kill Bran and killed the Karstark kid so his only friend there is Brienne (maybe Tyrion?).  I'm not even sure Bran tells his siblings Jaime pushed him out of the tree.  Bran is basically Spock now so he won't let emotion get in the way of Jaime's fate.  Bran may see that Jaime still has a role to play and saves him from Dany's wrath.  I'm assuming Bran has seen some of the good things that Jaime has done like saving thousands of lives.

 

My guess is

 

Dany wants revenge for her father

Sansa and Arya want justice for their father

Jon wants justice for his father/uncle and wants to see Dany get her revenge (out of being unsure what to do with the news he received)

The Lords of the North despise the Lannisters

Tyrion and Brienne make an impassioned defense of Jamie

Bran sees the big picture and is willing to forgive

 

The sentence is Death

But before the sentence is carried out, news arrives that the Whitewalkers are nearing Winterfell or have massacred a nearby town.

 

Jamie makes a plea to delay his sentence so that he can stand with The Living against The Dead

[Doc Brown]

31 minutes ago, /dev/null said:

 

 

My guess is

 

Dany wants revenge for her father

Sansa and Arya want justice for their father

Jon wants justice for his father/uncle and wants to see Dany get her revenge (out of being unsure what to do with the news he received)

The Lords of the North despise the Lannisters

Tyrion and Brienne make an impassioned defense of Jamie

Bran sees the big picture and is willing to forgive

 

The sentence is Death

But before the sentence is carried out, news arrives that the Whitewalkers are nearing Winterfell or have massacred a nearby town.

 

Jamie makes a plea to delay his sentence so that he can stand with The Living against The Dead

Very plausible although Sansa knows it was Joffrey who ultimately decided Ned's fate.  I think they'd be more pissed at him making their brother a cripple.  

 

It would be a cool completion to Jaime''s character arch if he ends up sacrificing himself to somehow save Bran.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

Who knows Jamie pushed Bran?

 

Brieanne, Tyrion plea that Jamie wants to help.  

 

Bran might “see” Jamie’s last discussion with his sister now “dead to him and he wants to fight for the living.  

 

If he does die Arya takes his face. 

The ultimate betrayal?

 

[May Day 10]

I think bran's stance will be that, while we all hate this mf... he has a big part to play yet and we must spare him.  While the angry mob argues which method to execute him

[/dev/null]

4 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

 

If he does die Arya takes his face. 

The ultimate betrayal?

 

how does the face claiming thing work?

 

can she take any dead persons face or does it have to be somebody she killed?

[LeGOATski]

1 hour ago, /dev/null said:

how does the face claiming thing work?

 

can she take any dead persons face or does it have to be somebody she killed?

Pretty sure it's anybody. The Faceless men had a whole warehouse full of faces. Also, multiple persons wore the face of Jaqen Hghar, the first face that Arya met.

[#34fan]

I think Theon should stay the hell away from the north. -Especially Winterfell... I don't think he'll last a day if he goes back.

[/dev/null]

1 minute ago, #34fan said:

I think Theon should stay the hell away from the north. -Especially Winterfell... I don't think he'll last a day if he goes back.

 

I think Theon's story arc, like Jamie's, is moving towards redemption

[#34fan]

1 minute ago, /dev/null said:

 

I think Theon's story arc, like Jamie's, is moving towards redemption

 

There can be redemption in death.  I don't think Yara will care as long as Theon doesn't die a coward.