Sean McDermott’s Current Approval Rating

[cage]

18 minutes ago, Wayne Cubed said:

 

Um sure you do, are you saying the Bills didn’t covet Tre?

 

 

Well, anyone a team picks in the first round is someone they coveted.  Obviously they had Tre on their radar, but a 17 slot trade-down doesn't seem like a strategy get him in particular.

 

A better example might be the trade-down when they selected EJ.  They clearly were going to take a QB, there were lots of reports that they liked EJ best, but felt that he would still be there if they moved down a few slots and acquired some more draft capital

Edited January 6, 2019 by cage

[fansince88]

4 hours ago, Scorp83 said:

I did mention McBeane mishandled the QB position. But it was McDermott & his coaching staff that decided to cut McCarron. McDermott love for Peterman probably kept Beane from making the move though... I mean, that's just speculation, but we as fans have to look at the facts & fill in the gaps on our own. 

 

Beane probably had Anderson on speed dial, but who's to say McDermott didn't block it or & Beane was ok with backing his buddy's decision??? It's not like McDermott is perfect at making these kind of decisions. 

 

It's a good argument to have...& I think we all can agree we're glad they finally figured it out. But McDermott has power in that building, trust and believe...that was his call & Beane went along for the ride even if he was against the trip in the 1st place, Beane still gassed the car up & jumped in the passenger seat with an attitude ?

I sort of hate the "McBeane" use of the coach and GM. These are two seperate people althoug unlike our past staffs have the same thought process. I'm probably confirming what you said but here is my take. AJ, at the end of preseason, proved he could not take the reigns as the starter. They got a pick for him. Nathan fooled not all but alot of us in the preseason. In fact there were alot of posts about him as #1 and Josh as #2 compared to Jim and Frank. Beane said he handled it wrong and tried to get Anderson in earlier. Injury forced us to bring in Matt and finally after he proved he could be #2 they cut ties with Nate. So here we are now compared to the off season last year. We had Nate in March and brought in AJ and drafted Josh in April. We had no clue what we had but now we have what we hope is our starter, backup and veteran in the room. That room is set. It is a beautiful  thing. In theory it is set anyway and how long has it been that we could say that?

[Wayne Cubed]

15 minutes ago, cage said:

 

Well, anyone a team picks in the first round is someone they coveted.  I'm sure they had Tre on their radar, but a 17 slot trade-down doesn't seem like a strategy get him in particular.

 

A better example might be the trade-down when they selected EJ.  They clearly were going to take a QB, there were lots of reports that they liked EJ best, but felt that he would still be there if they moved down a few slots and acquired some more draft capital

 

Lets put it this way, he coveted building their defense, over selecting a QB and then building the team around the QB. I don’t think you can argue that McDermott wanted a piece for his defense with the first pick.

Edited January 6, 2019 by Wayne Cubed

[PlayoffsPlease]

Pros:
 

1. He is clearly not an outright bust. 15-17 over two years with a playoff loss makes him wall of fame worthy by the standards of the Bills 21st century. 

Cons:

 

1. Slow to recognize errors.  Sticking with Peterman is as bad of a piece of coaching as I have ever witnessed.  We are praising him for firing Castilo and Crossman now which is a year late. His management of the wide receivers is eerily similar to his blind spot on Peterman. 
2. No track record of solid coaching hires. Firing coaches you hired is only acknowledging past failure.  It is not an indication things are going "in the right direction"
3. A lack of adaptabiity.  He seems like the type of coach who can not figure out how to optimize the talent he has, but is always searching for guys who "get his process" 
4. Lack of personal accountability.  He holds others accountable.  Never acknowledges his own lack of judgment. I don't think it is because he is not willing to. I don't think he recognizes his own errors. 

 

At this point, it seems to me that McDermott is a decent football coach who  "learning on the job"  as far as being a decent head coach goes. 

The practical question is should McDermott be back next season.  The answer to that is yes.  2020 and beyond is still undecided. 

 

 

[vorpma]

1 minute ago, PlayoffsPlease said:

Pros:
 

1. He is clearly not an outright bust. 15-17 over two years with a playoff loss makes him wall of fame worthy by the standards of the Bills 21st century. 

Cons:

 

1. Slow to recognize errors.  Sticking with Peterman is as bad of a piece of coaching as I have ever witnessed.  We are praising him for firing Castilo and Crossman now which is a year late. His management of the wide receivers is eerily similar to his blind spot on Peterman. 
2. No track record of solid coaching hires. Firing coaches you hired is only acknowledging past failure.  It is not an indication things are going "in the right direction"
3. A lack of adaptabiity.  He seems like the type of coach who can not figure out how to optimize the talent he has, but is always searching for guys who "get his process" 
4. Lack of personal accountability.  He holds others accountable.  Never acknowledges his own lack of judgment. I don't think it is because he is not willing to. I don't think he recognizes his own errors. 

 

At this point, it seems to me that McDermott is a decent football coach who  "learning on the job"  as far as being a decent head coach goes. 

The practical question is should McDermott be back next season.  The answer to that is yes.  2020 and beyond is still undecided. 

 

 

You must have some pretty good sources inside the Bills Front Office; how do you know how McDermott assesses himself? More hot air!

[PlayoffsPlease]

Just now, vorpma said:

You must have some pretty good sources inside the Bills Front Office; how do you know how McDermott assesses himself? More hot air!

He gives press conferences regularly, where he criticizes others mistakes. Never once saying he made a mistake.  Pay attention. 

[fansince88]

4 minutes ago, PlayoffsPlease said:

Pros:
 

1. He is clearly not an outright bust. 15-17 over two years with a playoff loss makes him wall of fame worthy by the standards of the Bills 21st century. 

Cons:

 

1. Slow to recognize errors.  Sticking with Peterman is as bad of a piece of coaching as I have ever witnessed.  We are praising him for firing Castilo and Crossman now which is a year late. His management of the wide receivers is eerily similar to his blind spot on Peterman. 
2. No track record of solid coaching hires. Firing coaches you hired is only acknowledging past failure.  It is not an indication things are going "in the right direction"
3. A lack of adaptabiity.  He seems like the type of coach who can not figure out how to optimize the talent he has, but is always searching for guys who "get his process" 
4. Lack of personal accountability.  He holds others accountable.  Never acknowledges his own lack of judgment. I don't think it is because he is not willing to. I don't think he recognizes his own errors. 

 

At this point, it seems to me that McDermott is a decent football coach who  "learning on the job"  as far as being a decent head coach goes. 

The practical question is should McDermott be back next season.  The answer to that is yes.  2020 and beyond is still undecided. 

 

 

Your Cons debunked

1) he doesnt make knee jerked decisions 

2)He took the best he had available to him but recognises they are not getting out of his players at that position that they need to.

3)This is so far from the truth. We made the playoffs last year with a rag tag group that shouldnt have won 3.

4)So the we all need to do better including myself statements at every one of his pressers dont matter.

5)You obviously dont care for him. (Just agreeing with a point you didnt make)

[PlayoffsPlease]

Just now, fansince88 said:

Your Cons debunked

1) he doesnt make knee jerked decisions 

2)He took the best he had available to him but recognises they are not getting out of his players at that position that they need to.

3)This is so far from the truth. We made the playoffs last year with a rag tag group that shouldnt have won 3.

4)So the we all need to do better including myself statements at every one of his pressers dont matter.

5)You obviously dont care for him. (Just agreeing with a point you didnt make)

You are wrong on every point.   

[fansince88]

1 minute ago, PlayoffsPlease said:

You are wrong on every point.   

So your saying you do like him?

[vorpma]

8 minutes ago, PlayoffsPlease said:

He gives press conferences regularly, where he criticizes others mistakes. Never once saying he made a mistake.  Pay attention. 

He is HC in the NFL and he has been a successful coach in the NFL; you don't get there without conducting serious self appraisals. And you don't stand in front of the press and offer self critiques; we leave that up to the true professionals on TBD!! 

[Trogdor]

16 hours ago, Degenerate Mike in HHDS said:

I think he's made lemonade out of lemons with this team. As @Cripple Creek said the tear down is complete. But I'd say the rebuild is still 2 years away. I'm a yes vote 100%

Or more depending on the FA pool and draft options. If they can't find Olinemen in the draft then it's going to be a while.

[PlayoffsPlease]

6 minutes ago, vorpma said:

He is HC in the NFL and he has been a successful coach in the NFL; you don't get there without conducting serious self appraisals. And you don't stand in front of the press and offer self critiques; we leave that up to the true professionals on TBD!! 

I watch the guy regularly, my opinion is that he lacks self-awareness, not that he is shy. 

[Trogdor]

11 minutes ago, fansince88 said:

Your Cons debunked

1) he doesnt make knee jerked decisions 

2)He took the best he had available to him but recognises they are not getting out of his players at that position that they need to.

3)This is so far from the truth. We made the playoffs last year with a rag tag group that shouldnt have won 3.

4)So the we all need to do better including myself statements at every one of his pressers dont matter.

5)You obviously dont care for him. (Just agreeing with a point you didnt make)

Debunk to me would be offering examples or some proof. You basically just said nuh-uh for all of them. 2 and 3 from the op are something I really agree with. You honestly think those coaches were his only options? He didn't even search for an OC before he hired his Oline coach. He rushed to hire his friends and it hasn't panned out. 

[vorpma]

4 minutes ago, PlayoffsPlease said:

I watch the guy regularly, my opinion is that he lacks self-awareness, not that he is shy. 

Come on, not saying he is shy and he does not lack self awarenes, he is not going to play media games and cater to the fire everybody crowd like you want him to. 

 

[fansince88]

1 minute ago, Trogdor said:

Debunk to me would be offering examples or some proof. You basically just said nuh-uh for all of them. 2 and 3 from the op are something I really agree with. You honestly think those coaches were his only options? He didn't even search for an OC before he hired his Oline coach. He rushed to hire his friends and it hasn't panned out. 

Had he gave evidence I would have given evidence. He gave opinion so I gave opinion. You agree with him so all you can do is disagree with my opinion.  Im ok with the fact that we disagree.

[Trogdor]

Just now, fansince88 said:

Had he gave evidence I would have given evidence. He gave opinion so I gave opinion. You agree with him so all you can do is disagree with my opinion.  Im ok with the fact that we disagree.

He specifically pointed to personnel decisions and you didn't. Those are examples to back up his point. 

[Mr. WEO]

His handling of the QB roster was laughably amateurish.  But, in the end, he dumb-lucked out of that self created mess with his Allen pick.

 

Overall, reasons to be optimistic.

[Green Lightning]

Solid coach with discipline and a plan. And for once the GM and coach are in lockstep. Go Bills!

 

[Scorp83]

1 hour ago, BillyWhiteShows said:

 

Its not pointless....it McDermott’s Approval rating after year two.   Happens all the time on sports or politics 

 

Funny that neither of you mention his biggest accomplishment.

 

How is that 2 decade long Buffalo Bills playoff drought that tarnished the brand doing?

I've mentioned the playoffs drought, I said because he foolishly bench Tyrod for Peterman...it caused us to cross our fingers for the Dalton to Boyd miracle 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

16 hours ago, Rocky Landing said:

I do not want McD fired. Or Beane, for that matter.

 

BUT

 

I just don't see how this season was anything other than woefully mismanaged.

They had to do a tear down to build up. 

 

I didnt like it either but I accepted the necessary evil.   

 

The next 3 months of FA and the draft  will tell us if this plan will works out. 

[Scorp83]

1 hour ago, fansince88 said:

I sort of hate the "McBeane" use of the coach and GM. These are two seperate people althoug unlike our past staffs have the same thought process. I'm probably confirming what you said but here is my take. AJ, at the end of preseason, proved he could not take the reigns as the starter. They got a pick for him. Nathan fooled not all but alot of us in the preseason. In fact there were alot of posts about him as #1 and Josh as #2 compared to Jim and Frank. Beane said he handled it wrong and tried to get Anderson in earlier. Injury forced us to bring in Matt and finally after he proved he could be #2 they cut ties with Nate. So here we are now compared to the off season last year. We had Nate in March and brought in AJ and drafted Josh in April. We had no clue what we had but now we have what we hope is our starter, backup and veteran in the room. That room is set. It is a beautiful  thing. In theory it is set anyway and how long has it been that we could say that?

Nate didn't fool everyone... after throwing 5 picks... it was nothing to be fool by. Preseason doesn't mean squat...WHY? Because it's the preseason...if your telling me McBeane was fooled by Nathan Peterman preseason games....then they shouldn't be in charge anymore!

 

That's my point... & posters that was talking that Nathan's #1 crap... I didn't let that fly over my head. ?

[Phil The Thrill]

6 minutes ago, Scorp83 said:

I've mentioned the playoffs drought, I said because he foolishly bench Tyrod for Peterman...it caused us to cross our fingers for the Dalton to Boyd miracle 

 

This is the biggest fallacy ever.  If you want to go through the season of Super Bowl winners you’ll find lots of “Dalton to Boyd miracles”

[Scorp83]

1 hour ago, Rochesterfan said:

 

 

 

So you really believe no one wanted Allen from pre draft evaluations?

 

Even though there was much talk of him going #1 to Cleveland and that pick being between Mayfield and Allen.

 

The Jets wanted Darnold all along, but then both Buffalo and Arizona were higher on Allen than Rosen.

 

The scouts around the league had Allen ranked pretty high and the guys that hated him were the pure analytic guys that could not justify the draft position with the numbers.  Allen just blew all of their analytical work up by being successful as a rookie and showing talent and athleticism they could not quantify.  The other things that the analytical guys missed was leadership and heart - Allen has shown an abundance of both, but they struggle to quantify that with things like completion percentage.

 

Yes some fans hated the pick - just as some fans are down on McDermott and call him conservative without recognizing the changes he made through the season as Allen grew.  Just like most other things people build a judgement and then continue to argue a false narrative to justify their position in the face of alternative facts to what they are seeing.  

 

For example people argue argue that all they do is bring in ex-Carolina players and that they refuse to go get talent - when by the end of the season there was 1 ex-Carolina player on the entire active roster and 1 in Anderson sitting on the bench, but the narrative continues.  Another is that McDermott is super conservative- when in reality the Bills were upper 1/3 of the league in 4th down attempts and as Allen progressed and showed athleticism they went for more and more late in the season.  He was more conservative early on because the defense was the better part of the team both this year and last and a defensive coach with a better defense should be more conservative.  As the offense got better you saw him make changes to allow more aggression and we will see but it appears to me he is right in the middle - not super aggressive and not super conservative.

 

 

 

 

No...but I knew there would be a sucker... which is why I posted the videos, cause a lot of people didn't want Allen. But, just how you used scouts that had him ranked high...there was also scouts that had him rank below Mason Rudolph. I've posted links during the predraft process 

 

The thing is, Allen was actually good. So alot of people were wrong...me included...but I've said this already. 

[Scorp83]

6 minutes ago, Phil The Thrill said:

 

This is the biggest fallacy ever.  If you want to go through the season of Super Bowl winners you’ll find lots of “Dalton to Boyd miracles”

It's not, your ignoring him benching Tyrod for Peterman!  That was #Facts! The game was winnable at the time #FACT

If we didn't throw 5 INT's in the Chargers game... we would have controlled our own destiny.

 

I NEVER SAID ANYTHING TOWARDS DISPUTING the "Dalton to Boyd Miracle" I know those things happen. What I'm saying is, we wouldn't have needed it in the 1st place... if our coach didn't make such a boneheaded decision that possibly costs us a game.

 

 

That's why OP started this thread, so we can discuss McDermott approval rating.

If you approve that's fine... but don't sit here & try to dispute his factual stupidity 

[formerlyofCtown]

2 hours ago, Rochesterfan said:

 

 

 

So you really believe no one wanted Allen from pre draft evaluations?

 

Even though there was much talk of him going #1 to Cleveland and that pick being between Mayfield and Allen.

 

The Jets wanted Darnold all along, but then both Buffalo and Arizona were higher on Allen than Rosen.

 

The scouts around the league had Allen ranked pretty high and the guys that hated him were the pure analytic guys that could not justify the draft position with the numbers.  Allen just blew all of their analytical work up by being successful as a rookie and showing talent and athleticism they could not quantify.  The other things that the analytical guys missed was leadership and heart - Allen has shown an abundance of both, but they struggle to quantify that with things like completion percentage.

 

Yes some fans hated the pick - just as some fans are down on McDermott and call him conservative without recognizing the changes he made through the season as Allen grew.  Just like most other things people build a judgement and then continue to argue a false narrative to justify their position in the face of alternative facts to what they are seeing.  

 

For example people argue argue that all they do is bring in ex-Carolina players and that they refuse to go get talent - when by the end of the season there was 1 ex-Carolina player on the entire active roster and 1 in Anderson sitting on the bench, but the narrative continues.  Another is that McDermott is super conservative- when in reality the Bills were upper 1/3 of the league in 4th down attempts and as Allen progressed and showed athleticism they went for more and more late in the season.  He was more conservative early on because the defense was the better part of the team both this year and last and a defensive coach with a better defense should be more conservative.  As the offense got better you saw him make changes to allow more aggression and we will see but it appears to me he is right in the middle - not super aggressive and not super conservative.

 

 

 

 

The NYG had Allen as the #1 QB on there board as did other teams.

1 hour ago, Wayne Cubed said:

 

Oh come on, Kyle was receiving treatment nearly every off season for both his Achilles. 

As all players do but we are talking about injuries that affect performance in season.  Youre trying to argue with facts here bud.  If youre going to keep refusing to acknowledge facts then Im just not going to converse with you.

Edited January 6, 2019 by formerlyofCtown

[formerlyofCtown]

28 minutes ago, Scorp83 said:

It's not, your ignoring him benching Tyrod for Peterman!  That was #Facts! The game was winnable at the time #FACT

If we didn't throw 5 INT's in the Chargers game... we would have controlled our own destiny.

 

I NEVER SAID ANYTHING TOWARDS DISPUTING the "Dalton to Boyd Miracle" I know those things happen. What I'm saying is, we wouldn't have needed it in the 1st place... if our coach didn't make such a boneheaded decision that possibly costs us a game.

 

 

That's why OP started this thread, so we can discuss McDermott approval rating.

If you approve that's fine... but don't sit here & try to dispute his factual stupidity 

Well the playoffs werent really the goal.  I believe at that point they knew Tyrod wasnt their guy and wanted to see what they had in Peterman.  I suspect Peterman is a practice MVP as well as a preseason MVP.  For whatever reason he seems to make poor decisions in game.  So I dont fault McDermott in the slightest.  As you can see Peterman is still being given a chance to show he can develope.

[Alphadawg7]

IMHO:  2 years from now, McD will be looked at as one of the top 5 HC’s in the NFL.  

 

I love what hes done, he’s an ideal HC for this team and I have full confidence in him going into this offseason. 

[Alphadawg7]

39 minutes ago, Scorp83 said:

It's not, your ignoring him benching Tyrod for Peterman!  That was #Facts! The game was winnable at the time #FACT

If we didn't throw 5 INT's in the Chargers game... we would have controlled our own destiny.

 

I NEVER SAID ANYTHING TOWARDS DISPUTING the "Dalton to Boyd Miracle" I know those things happen. What I'm saying is, we wouldn't have needed it in the 1st place... if our coach didn't make such a boneheaded decision that possibly costs us a game.

 

 

That's why OP started this thread, so we can discuss McDermott approval rating.

If you approve that's fine... but don't sit here & try to dispute his factual stupidity 

 

You know that he was a rookie HC right?  Rookies make mistakes, time to get over that and move on.  I would MUCH RATHER have a HC bold enough to risk making a mistake to try and take and a step forward.  

 

Did it work out?  No, and not every decision a HC makes will always work out.  But at the end of the day, I want a HC not afraid to take chances to make this team better.

 

So seriously, people need to get over that.  To have it cloud over him still is ridiculous, especially since ultimately we still made the playoffs.  

[Wayne Cubed]

26 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said:

As all players do but we are talking about injuries that affect performance in season.  Youre trying to argue with facts here bud.  If youre going to keep refusing to acknowledge facts then Im just not going to converse with you.

 

Geez bud, please tell me more about the facts you are presenting. Kyle missed a game in 2014, so it wasn't just 1 season where he missed games. Then he missed 10 games in 2015. Then he missed another game in 2016. He also had nagging back injuries and ankle injuries. But please keep presenting more facts. He also missed 11 games in 2011. And guess what, it's football, injuries happen. 

 

Again, you've said oft injured, I'm aware what that means btw... that Glenn was constantly struggling with the ankle and back issues, yet he played every single game for 3 straight seasons. Something Kyle Williams never did. 

 

You've not presented any facts. Show me the facts that he was constantly dealing with injuries that made him oft injured. Actually show me any player that isn't dealing with some sort of injury. It's such a cop out. 

[Scorp83]

14 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said:

Well the playoffs werent really the goal.  I believe at that point they knew Tyrod wasnt their guy and wanted to see what they had in Peterman.  I suspect Peterman is a practice MVP as well as a preseason MVP.  For whatever reason he seems to make poor decisions in game.  So I dont fault McDermott in the slightest.  As you can see Peterman is still being given a chance to show he can develope.

Which doesn't prove anything... a coach making a stupid decision to sign Peterman doesn't make it smart or prove he's good. The same organization signed EJ after we released him...

3 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

You know that he was a rookie HC right?  Rookies make mistakes, time to get over that and move on.  I would MUCH RATHER have a HC bold enough to risk making a mistake to try and take and a step forward.  

 

Did it work out?  No, and not every decision a HC makes will always work out.  But at the end of the day, I want a HC not afraid to take chances to make this team better.

 

So seriously, people need to get over that.  To have it cloud over him still is ridiculous, especially since ultimately we still made the playoffs.  

First year head coaches make mistakes all the time... & get blasted for it...McDermott isnt the exception. But as I laid out, it's not just one thing... McDermott isn't perfect & I love the risky moves but some of his risk isn't as calculated as he suggests. Some moves were just flat out stupid & shouldn't have been made

[Scorp83]

13 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

IMHO:  2 years from now, McD will be looked at as one of the top 5 HC’s in the NFL.  

 

I love what hes done, he’s an ideal HC for this team and I have full confidence in him going into this offseason. 

That's good... your all in... most of us isn't. You can't be mad at that

[BillsFan130]

50/50.

 

Dont approve yet but don’t want him gone yet either.

 

Next year should tell us a lot more

[KD in CA]

With my 35,000th post, I heartily endorse McD and the job he's done thus far.

 

 

p.s.  off hand I can't think of a better example of a 'vocal minority' than the results of this poll!  

[JoPar_v2]

He gets a thumbs up from me. The penalties have to come down however next year. Maybe an influx of higher talent fixes that. But there were way too many flags this year, especially early on.

[vorpma]

35 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

You know that he was a rookie HC right?  Rookies make mistakes, time to get over that and move on.  I would MUCH RATHER have a HC bold enough to risk making a mistake to try and take and a step forward.  

 

Did it work out?  No, and not every decision a HC makes will always work out.  But at the end of the day, I want a HC not afraid to take chances to make this team better.

 

So seriously, people need to get over that.  To have it cloud over him still is ridiculous, especially since ultimately we still made the playoffs.  

Great post Alphadawg7 but good luck trying to convince the Arena Football League Fire Everybody Gang!

4 minutes ago, JoPar_v2 said:

He gets a thumbs up from me. The penalties have to come down however next year. Maybe an influx of higher talent fixes that. But there were way too many flags this year, especially early on.

Good point!

[Boatdrinks]

The needle is still pointing ( slightly) toward approval for me. We will see if this teardown/ rebuild thing works but I’ll argue that it wasn’t necessary like some have implied. It was the McD/ Beane chosen path, but the teardown didn’t have to happen. A retooling on the fly was certainly attainable and commonly done around the league. As for the decision to bench Tyrod, it was a long shot at best, but I was fine with it. Tyrod was coming off three putrid performances and wasn’t beating the Chargers that day anyway. The bigger issue was McDs belief in Peterman, but his questioning of Taylor was spot-on. Year three is going to be the critical year, but it’s been more good than bad overall. 

[Alphadawg7]

41 minutes ago, Scorp83 said:

That's good... your all in... most of us isn't. You can't be mad at that

 

According to this thread and poll, most are in on McD, not the other way around.  Its fine either way, just saying your phrasing here seems inaccurate.

[ColoradoBills]

The approve/disapprove limits voting IMO.

After the last few games (minus NE) and dismissing the 3 coaches I give McDermott a solid B.

Arguments of a B- or B+ can easily be made but anyone giving him an A seems a bit fanboy'ish to me.

Giving him a C or lower would seem to show a personal dislike as apposed to a fair rating.

 

I want to see him to continue to improve as a NFL Head Coach going forward.

[Mat68]

Going into year three, he has cleaned house, created a defense, and imo found a Qb.  Year 3 he will for his first time have an expectation of winning.  Point to Chicago and LAR as jumps the team needs to make.  An improved offense and steady defense should be the best roster and team McDermott has had here.

[Billsfan1972]

6-10 folks and a putrid offence.  Can't give a ringing endorsement.

 

We'll see in FA & the draft their commitment to Josh and how bad they screwed that side of the ball.

 

Also special teams, discipline in game decisions need to be much improved.