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1 minute ago, purple haze said:

If the BPA at 9 is a DT Beane will scoop him up, just as he should.  That 3 way rotation is okay.  But if you can add a potential all pro talent they would not be wrong to do it.

Agreed and it's a good draft for DT.  I just like the idea of not being forced to take this spot

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21 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Yup.  Sue me.  I like the kid.  A game a two over the course of his 2 year contract.  1 game in two, years, so be it.  I doubt it would be the reason we lose a championship.

I would be if that loss kept us out of the playoffs or eliminated us from them.

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The divisional games with the Jets and Dolphins are like me and my brother growing up...Whoever is more pissed is the one that gets the upper hand. We need guys like Phillips to play with a professional level of nasty.....Just to smack a guy in the mouth (not literally) when needed to keep order on the field.  

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If penalties are a big concern, maybe we can assign him an on and off field mentor. Is Jerry available?  😋

 

 

 

Half kidding, because Jerry has actually shown improvement there. 

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Awesome. Love it. Just draft or sign another 3T in addition to Jordan and our interior DL is set for the next five years.

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1 hour ago, NewEra said:

I’m all for it.  Especially with the loss of Kyle, we still need one more guy to go with Star and the 2 Phillips kids.  I can see him costing us a game or two with his over excitement penalties but that’s fine with me.  I like the guy a lot

 

Out of the frying pan....

1 hour ago, NewEra said:

Yup.  Sue me.  I like the kid.  A game a two over the course of his 2 year contract.  1 game in two, years, so be it.  I doubt it would be the reason we lose a championship.

 

....and into the fire.

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This kid is a former 2nd round draft choice who plays hard, loves the energy of the team and the fans, and the coaches want him here. He showed us some good stuff, we should all be hoping they can work out a deal to keep him here. 

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With Williams retire Buffalo needs a guy inside who can penetrate and make plays.  Phillips flashed that ability.  

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2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

This is a must..what a great pick up Phillips is!

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2 hours ago, thebandit27 said:

Good. 

 

I'd try to make it a 2-year deal if I could. Give him a decent bump to $3.5-$4M per and allow him the ability to hit the market again before he's 30.

He is not getting anything close to $3.5-4 million a year. His rookie contract averaged just over $1 million/year and this year he was waived.

 

He's a nice rotational player and I am glad the Bills are trying to re-sign him, but he's a $2 million/year player at the most, I could see a 2 year, $3.5 million deal that is $1 million per year in salary and a $1.5 million signing bonus, or 3 year, $5.5 million with salaries of $1M, $1.25M & $1.25M with a $2 million signing bonus. 

 

Let's not get carried away, decent player, good rotational guy good for 30-40 snaps a game. 

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2 minutes ago, jwhit34 said:

He is not getting anything close to $3.5-4 million a year. His rookie contract averaged just over $1 million/year and this year he was waived.

 

He's a nice rotational player and I am glad the Bills are trying to re-sign him, but he's a $2 million/year player at the most, I could see a 2 year, $3.5 million deal that is $1 million per year in salary and a $1.5 million signing bonus, or 3 year, $5.5 million with salaries of $1M, $1.25M & $1.25M with a $2 million signing bonus. 

 

Let's not get carried away, decent player, good rotational guy good for 30-40 snaps a game. 

 

$3-$4M is rotational guy money. DaQuan Jones type money.

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2 hours ago, wppete said:

A quote from Phillips after cleaning out his locker....

 

“Buffalo’s great. I love the atmosphere,” Phillips said. “Wherever I wind up, I won’t go anywhere with a bad fan base. The fan base is a big part of my game, and I haven’t seen anything better than the Bills Mafia.”

Sign him for 2 years obd....

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I hope the Bills get this done.

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11 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:

 

$3-$4M is rotational guy money. DaQuan Jones type money.

Not true - go to Spotrac and check out how teams allocate $ to DL. Invariably, the top 4 get almost all the money, and player #4 is around $2-3 million. All the rest, the rotational players, are almost always under $1 million, a few in the $1-2 million range. There are a few exceptions but if you click on the teams spending $25-32 million on DL you will find this distribution to be the norm. 

 

The Bills best 4 players on DL returning in '19 are Hughes, Murphy, Lawson and Star L. The two Phillips are next and will be in the $1-2 million slots. Jordan Phillips is not worth $3-4 million and they will not spend that much, nor will they have to on a guy who was waived this year. 

 

Start spending that kind of cash on backups and the Bills will end up back in cap jail in 3 years. The Bills can take a firm stance on this guy he is not getting a sniff in first free agency wave he is the prototypical 2nd or 3rd wave that has to settle for modest money. 

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Good . Just like i said they should.  Once he signs no chance we go DT in round 1.  

 

Phillips,  Star, Harry with Lawson occasionally on passing downs makes DT not a draft target in round 1 

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Anyone else concerned that Harry might not have the juice? Not the end of the world to miss on a 3rd round pick, but I didn't see much of anything from him all season.

 

Definitely in favor of re-signing J Phillips.

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3 hours ago, NewEra said:

I’m all for it.  Especially with the loss of Kyle, we still need one more guy to go with Star and the 2 Phillips kids.  I can see him costing us a game or two with his over excitement penalties but that’s fine with me.  I like the guy a lot

I am never fine with a player costing us a game or 2 especially if he is not winning me at least 4 by himself

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1 hour ago, jwhit34 said:

Not true - go to Spotrac and check out how teams allocate $ to DL. Invariably, the top 4 get almost all the money, and player #4 is around $2-3 million. All the rest, the rotational players, are almost always under $1 million, a few in the $1-2 million range. There are a few exceptions but if you click on the teams spending $25-32 million on DL you will find this distribution to be the norm. 

 

The Bills best 4 players on DL returning in '19 are Hughes, Murphy, Lawson and Star L. The two Phillips are next and will be in the $1-2 million slots. Jordan Phillips is not worth $3-4 million and they will not spend that much, nor will they have to on a guy who was waived this year. 

 

Start spending that kind of cash on backups and the Bills will end up back in cap jail in 3 years. The Bills can take a firm stance on this guy he is not getting a sniff in first free agency wave he is the prototypical 2nd or 3rd wave that has to settle for modest money. 

 

I would argue Murphy has not been better than J Phillips, and Lawson and H Phillips are on rookie deals. J Phillips will get paid more than 1-2 mil bank on it

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57 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said:

Anyone else concerned that Harry might not have the juice? Not the end of the world to miss on a 3rd round pick, but I didn't see much of anything from him all season.

 

Definitely in favor of re-signing J Phillips.

 

I am a bit concerned with Harry, but think he is the type of player who will keep working to get better. I like the kid, and have my fingers crossed that he takes a step forward next year having a season under his belt.

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13 minutes ago, WideNine said:

 

I am a bit concerned with Harry, but think he is the type of player who will keep working to get better. I like the kid, and have my fingers crossed that he takes a step forward next year having a season under his belt.

 

I agree. Harry Phillips looked small and overmatched. There was no quick twitch. I think he's a backup but I hope he proves me wrong. Even if Phillips resigns this is still a huge need. 

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1 hour ago, DJB said:

Good . Just like i said they should.  Once he signs no chance we go DT in round 1.  

 

Phillips,  Star, Harry with Lawson occasionally on passing downs makes DT not a draft target in round 1 

 

Harrison Phillips did next to nothing and Jordan is a nice rotational player. There is a glaring need at the 3 technique. There really isn't one on the roster. It's very likely we go DT in round one. The other option is to go after Sheldon Richardson or Grady Jarrett in free agency. 

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Wise choice !

 

4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

i dont know about 3 technique, more like 1

 

 

4 hours ago, jrober38 said:

No brainer.

 

He's young, and adds toughness and size to our interior line rotation.

 

We just need a 3-technique who can rush the passer now, although Shaq Lawson showed last week kicking him inside on passing downs could be an option. 

 

Harry

 

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4 hours ago, wppete said:

 

 

Great story. I remember after the fight against Jacksonville him running all over the place interacting with the crowd, and I'm like who is this dude? He was in the endzone with his helmet off yelling at people to get up and get loud.

 

Then I saw his comments before and after the Miami game. I'm a fan. Love his attitude, I hope he's around here for awhile and can grow into a role. 

 

He's negotiating contracts while that ass who cut him is looking for a job. He has been vindicated, I'm happy for him.

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46 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

 

Harrison Phillips did next to nothing and Jordan is a nice rotational player. There is a glaring need at the 3 technique. There really isn't one on the roster. It's very likely we go DT in round one. The other option is to go after Sheldon Richardson or Grady Jarrett in free agency. 

 

So a rookie with almost no reps didn't do much this year. Colour me as suprised .  If we sign Phillips  no chance we go DT in rouND 1. 

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