billsfan_34 Posted December 23, 2018 Author Share Posted December 23, 2018 Just now, LSHMEAB said: I think we can also safely say this front 7 needs a game changer and the notion that the defense is "set" has to be put to bed. We clearly missed Milano, but there were far too many guys either mailing it in or simply not physically up to the challenge. We saw why Miami let Jordan Phillips go- he took the game off today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 1 minute ago, LSHMEAB said: For me, "accuracy" is not the issue with Josh as much as recognition. It's very obvious we have a meager group of wide receivers. What he needs to improve on is scanning the entire field and finding the best possible target. This is something that we can excuse because of inexperience, but he's EJ Manuel if he doesn't make strides. I'm not writing any books on Allen as his career has just begun, but this is a concern. I think it'll be huge to get some better guys in the offseason for him to build some trust with his recievers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Lack of NFL caliber on offense was on clear display today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 (edited) I know in 2-3 days logic will prevail and folks will eventually see the bigger picture, but can we stop this salty cry baby talk after a loss? The Patriots have been to 8 Super Bowls in 16 years, we have a rookie QB going up against one of the greatest coaches in the history of all organized sports and he eats rookie QBs for lunch. No rookie QB on the planet will beat a Bill Belichick coached team and if they do they should buy a powerball ticket. Good news is we have a promising QB, a potential franchise guy. We got a good young nuclei to build around, 10 draft picks and 90 million. Look deeper than stats, there's more to it than that. Once we build an actual team around Allen you all will get the 4,000yds and 28 TDS you desire but for now it's about growth. This entire season was about Josh Allen, developing our young guys and pretty much getting a feel for our personnel. This entire season was nothing more than an audition. Playoffs in 2019. Sky is absolutely not falling. Edited December 23, 2018 by NewDayBills 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Maiden Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 (edited) All NE has to do is beat the Jets next week and they have a 1st round bye and a home playoff game to go to the AFC Championship game......groundhog decade... Edited December 23, 2018 by Iron Maiden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted December 23, 2018 Author Share Posted December 23, 2018 8 minutes ago, Warcodered said: I didn't say they were good just better than they've been which has been abysmal. What specifically was better? Give me a few examples other than the shoe tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 If I could give this a hundred thumbs up, I would. Great post 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 (edited) McD needs to go if the Bills dont atleast split with the patties next year and go 9-7. Edited December 23, 2018 by GETTOTHE50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Yeah that would be nice but this place is probably going to be awful for the next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Draft another QB? We just did. Barkley. 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 8 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: My dollars have voted - no tickets for me this year and it’ll be awhile. Too many others won’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 1 minute ago, billsfan_34 said: What specifically was better? Give me a few examples other than the shoe tackle. Returning and they did have some good stops on some of the Patriots returns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: Great, mccoy didn’t want to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seventeen Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 32 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: I have yet to openly criticize McDermitt but today he was awful. His players werent ready, the game plan was awful and he just doesnt have the pulse of the game and adjust. Furthermore, another piss poor outing ST wise yet Crossman is still here? Edmunds hasnt developed at all and today he had the worst day, imo, of his pro career. Daboll called a terrible game - he doesnt have much to work with thou Allen looked really bad at times- Draft another QB- not sold on this kid. Kyles Mini Me does nothing for me, and KW looks like there is nothing left in the tank Mckenzie just isnt an NFL WR and he scares me on Special Teams Logan Thomas- dropped a sure TD Say goodbye to Clay, Shady, KW, most of the OL, McKenzie, Alexander, Ford, Ivory and Hopefully Crossman. Cool with all except draft a new QB - he's a rookie. And Lotelelui at 10 mil a year ????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted December 23, 2018 Author Share Posted December 23, 2018 Just now, Warcodered said: Returning and they did have some good stops on some of the Patriots returns. Not consistent enough- ask others what they thought of the special teams today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: If I had to guess it was the whole youth movement and wanting to give Ford a lot of looks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 1 minute ago, GG said: Lack of NFL caliber on offense was on clear display today Hey........today was the first time they scored an offensive TD against the Pats since McDermott got here though! Progress! It would have been hard to fathom going from being dominated by the Pats for 15 years to hiring a coach in Sean McDermott who the Pats don't even get up to play against and STILL blow his f*cking team out every single time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Warcodered Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 1 minute ago, billsfan_34 said: Not consistent enough- ask others what they thought of the special teams today. Yeah they still weren't good but they did make some of those plays and didn't just hand the game over like against Miami. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 26 minutes ago, KD in CA said: I for one am shocked the Bills didn't beat a HOF coach and HOF QB, at home, who are playing for a playoff bye, and who the Bills are something like 1-25 against over the past dozen or so years. Clearly the Bills need to clean house and start the build over again. I'm sure that'll get the job done next year against NE. We've looked horrible all but 3 games this year. So no I'm definitely not shocked we lost to Brady's 100 yard 1 TD 2 INT performance. And that's bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted December 23, 2018 Author Share Posted December 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Warcodered said: Yeah they still weren't good but they did make some of those plays and didn't just hand the game over like against Miami. Dude, they botched a hold, missed a fg, allowed big returns, and had a punt blocked- are you comprehending? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Did anyone really in their heart of hearts, actually think we could win with this piss poor excuse of a roster? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 7 minutes ago, Helpmenow said: Great, mccoy didn’t want to play. He would have made zero difference anyways. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Elite Poster said: Did anyone really in their heart of hearts, actually think we could win with this piss poor excuse of a roster? I expect it to be respectable, and for players to make more plays than not, whether that be in the form of making a catch, or routine tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 1 minute ago, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said: We've looked horrible all but 3 games this year. So no I'm definitely not shocked we lost to Brady's 100 yard 1 TD 2 INT performance. And that's bad. It's a rebuilding year. From the moment the new regime walked into the building two years ago, 2018 was always going to be a rebuilding year. I don't know what to say to people who can't or won't accept that reality. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Warcodered Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 1 minute ago, billsfan_34 said: Dude, they botched a hold, missed a fg, allowed big returns, and had a punt blocked- are you comprehending? I didn't say they were great I didn't say they were good I said they weren't as bad as they've been which has been pretty much as bad as it gets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted December 23, 2018 Author Share Posted December 23, 2018 Just now, Warcodered said: I didn't say they were great I didn't say they were good I said they weren't as bad as they've been which has been pretty much as bad as it gets. I know what you said- they were awful today like all season long. Agree to disagree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 8 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Hey........today was the first time they scored an offensive TD against the Pats since McDermott got here though! Progress! It would have been hard to fathom going from being dominated by the Pats for 15 years to hiring a coach in Sean McDermott who the Pats don't even get up to play against and STILL blow his f*cking team out every single time. Diapers come off next year. If they're not contending for the division crown, McDermott is toast. Next year was always the goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 1 minute ago, KD in CA said: It's a rebuilding year. From the moment the new regime walked into the building two years ago, 2018 was always going to be a rebuilding year. I don't know what to say to people who can't or won't accept that reality. I accept we suck. That we've made decisions to suck. I'm not sold we're rebuilt. And that we've made decisions to be rebuilt and good before 2021. I'll check about that next year. But no that's not a reality that we've shown we've successfully rebuilt and are going to be above 500 next year or the year after. Lotta holes to fill and rebuilds are supposed to fix that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just in Atlanta Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 46 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: I have yet to openly criticize McDermitt but today he was awful. His players werent ready, the game plan was awful and he just doesnt have the pulse of the game and adjust. Furthermore, another piss poor outing ST wise yet Crossman is still here? Edmunds hasnt developed at all and today he had the worst day, imo, of his pro career. Daboll called a terrible game - he doesnt have much to work with thou Allen looked really bad at times- Draft another QB- not sold on this kid. Kyles Mini Me does nothing for me, and KW looks like there is nothing left in the tank Mckenzie just isnt an NFL WR and he scares me on Special Teams Logan Thomas- dropped a sure TD Say goodbye to Clay, Shady, KW, most of the OL, McKenzie, Alexander, Ford, Ivory and Hopefully Crossman. So basically you want a new team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thriftygamer83 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Anthony Lynn with Josh Allen would have won this games and kept his team competitive. Sean is a terrible intellectually inferior model of coaching and his paradigm model is indefensible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted December 23, 2018 Author Share Posted December 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Just in Atlanta said: So basically you want a new team. I want quality NFL players- not relics and subpar players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, GG said: Diapers come off next year. If they're not contending for the division crown, McDermott is toast. Next year was always the goal. Agreed, 2019 Bills should be a 10 win team. Beane has enough $$ and draft capital to fix a lot of woes talent wise. They get it wrong Pegula's should clean house. Brandon Beane will be a busy boy this off season I expect some picks traded for players teams cannot afford to keep plus day 1 of free agency better be a big day with some difference makers signed. Note to Beane please unplug the line to the Panthers Not impressed with Star/Benjamin in the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo44 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 49 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said: I have yet to openly criticize McDermitt but today he was awful. His players werent ready, the game plan was awful and he just doesnt have the pulse of the game and adjust. Furthermore, another piss poor outing ST wise yet Crossman is still here? Edmunds hasnt developed at all and today he had the worst day, imo, of his pro career. Daboll called a terrible game - he doesnt have much to work with thou Allen looked really bad at times- Draft another QB- not sold on this kid. Kyles Mini Me does nothing for me, and KW looks like there is nothing left in the tank Mckenzie just isnt an NFL WR and he scares me on Special Teams Logan Thomas- dropped a sure TD Say goodbye to Clay, Shady, KW, most of the OL, McKenzie, Alexander, Ford, Ivory and Hopefully Crossman. Allen was the best player on the field for the Bills. His progress is more than noteworthy this year. Drafting another quarterback is pure folly and, quite honestly, a silly idea. And, give Edmunds this year.He has earned that. The main thing I get out of the OP is that you should have waited a day before making those points. Let the excessive emotionality of the loss wear off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thriftygamer83 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 All the turn overs and no victory when Coaches like Harbaugh and Lynn have found way to make it points. Only reason why Sean is still Coahing is because he’s a generation apart frat brother of Terry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Can we point to a game other than MIN that McDermott HAS outcoached anyone. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted December 23, 2018 Author Share Posted December 23, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Mojo44 said: Allen was the best player on the field for the Bills. His progress is more than noteworthy this year. Drafting another quarterback is pure folly and, quite honestly, a silly idea. And, give Edmunds this year.He has earned that. The main thing I get out of the OP is that you should have waited a day before making those points. Let the excessive emotionality of the loss wear off. Im not saying draft a qb to replace him- im saying bring another arm in because I dont know if he is the guy. I dont need your advise but thanks. BTW- my assessments are pretty spot on and lack emotion. Edited December 23, 2018 by billsfan_34 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 I was pessimistic going into this game and the outcome was pretty much what I expected. In fact I predicted the Pats would win 27 - 10 and that Allen would struggle against the Hoodie. Some observations from today's game: * Allen played better then his final stats will show. Sure he got some garbage yards late and he did throw a couple of bad INT's but he also made some great throws that for a variety of reasons didn't produce yards or points among them: 1) a perfect strike to McKenzie that was dropped. Would have converted a 3rd down early and who knows what happens; 2) The long ball to Foster. Bad luck about the sun but that dosen't negate a great read & throw by Allen. Should have been an 80 yard TD pass; 3) The great pass to #82 that was dropped at the goal line. Perfect placement of the ball. In the NFL you have to make that catch. 4) The pass to Crooms that ended up as a lost fumble at the Pat's 5 yard line. We likely score a TD on that drive if he doesn't fumble. By my count that's THREE TD's left on the field that should have resulted directly from Allen's play. BTW, I think his 2 INT's only cost us 3 points. Next year we make those plays. * Edmunds is taking way to much criticism. Sure he got burned today but like Allen he's a raw rookie. The Hoodie dissects rookies like this for fun at Gillette stadium. The loss of Milano was huge. Edmunds is going to make huge strides next year. Like Allen this is a learning season for him. * The Bills had NO running game today. I believe Allen had their longest run. It's tough for a rookie QB to go into NE and generate offense when their is no running game. * The Bills rush defense was very bad. For me the defenses play today was a microcosm of their season. At times they played lights out and they generated 3 big TO's. But at other times they looked soft as pudding and they didn't make the stops that might have turned the game around. This unit could use some help in the off season. I don't think it would take much to lift them from being a good defense to a great one. * NE & Brady are definitely sliding. Lost in all the complaining about Allen, Edmunds, Zay Jones, the Bills coaches and the water boy is the FACT that Brady didn't play any better then Allen in spite of having a devastating running game to fall back on, better receivers and the home crowd. To me this was the biggest surprise. Next year NE may barely reach 500. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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