Target the Offensive line in 2019

[Tatonka68]

The Offensive line needs a lot of help and the Bills should replace at least 3 positions T, G and Center. It is almost a shoe in that the Bills draft either Jonah Williams (AL) or Greg Little (OM) with their 1st round pick. They should target either Shaq Mason (NE) or Quinton Spain (Ten) in free agency for Guard. For center draft Tyler Biadasz (WIS) or Elgton Jenkins (MISST) in the 2nd or 3rd round. After that draft at least one more interior linemen in the 4th or 5th round.

Edited December 10, 2018 by Tatonka68

[jrober38]

I think the Bills have to get Allen a premier WR with their 1st round pick.

 

OL upgrades should come through free agency, and some of our other draft picks. 

[RyanC883]

I think you get a C in FA.  We need a veteran Center for Allen.   I also think we need a TE upgrade.  Get Jesse James from PIT.

 

  I'd get the WR in the 2nd round after taking BPA in the 1st.   One of the Brown's (Old Miss or Oklahoma) should be available in early 2nd round.  Both good hands and speed.  Then try covering Brown, Foster, Zay and McKenzie.    If Allen has time, 2 of them should always be open. 

 

We also need a RB. 

[Tatonka68]

Just now, jrober38 said:

I think the Bills have to get Allen a premier WR with their 1st round pick.

 

OL upgrades should come through free agency, and some of our other draft picks. 

I agree with your point, the problem is that their isn't a WR worthy of a high 1st round pick. I would draft either Deebo Samuel or Collin Johnson in the 2nd or 3rd round.

[jrober38]

1 minute ago, Tatonka68 said:

I agree with your point, the problem is that their isn't a WR worthy of a high 1st round pick. I would draft either Deebo Samuel or Collin Johnson in the 2nd or 3rd round.

 

I think it's way too early to say that. 

This draft is loaded with wide receivers and some of them are going to move up the draft board after the offseason evaluation process gets underway. 

 

I can't see us draft a LT with a top 10 pick. I think they like Dawkins in that spot. 

[Victory Formation]

I'd love it if we signed TJ Yeldon and or Tevin Coleman to come in and run behind these lines. 

[JoshAllenHasBigHands]

I think a solid offensive line would make a much greater difference for this offense than a WR would.  Allens struggles right now have more to do with the lack of running game and constant pass rush.  Sure our WR have drops, but they are getting open.  But aside from those handful of plays, the OL line problems are popping up on every single snap.   

[Chicken Boo]

13 minutes ago, NewDayBills said:

I'd love it if we signed TJ Yeldon and or Tevin Coleman to come in and run behind these lines. 

 

Either would work behind a solid line.  I was hoping for Kenyon Drake or Jordan Howard, but they're not up until 2020.

[T master]

If they expect Allen to develop into any thing worth being called franchise guy then they have to invest in the O line first & get him some WR's that can get separation if they can do that he can do the rest !

 

Brady makes very average WR's look good & if Allen can develop his skills then he should be able to do the same thing !! Maybe not in the same perspective that Brady has done given his career but he can be our guy for a long time !!

[1st Ammendment NoMas]

Agreed on OL but I want 2 experienced starter FA's who are on the rise and have played at a high level.  2 High draft picks in Rds 1-5 and then fill with UDFA, low level FA with high upside, maybe someone coming off injury that we can take a chance on and not be hurt. 

 

But WR with our first pick. We need a true #1 who can grow with Allen.  #2 OL #3 RB #4 TE #5 OL, #6CB 

[FeelingOnYouboty]

22 hours ago, jrober38 said:

I think the Bills have to get Allen a premier WR with their 1st round pick.

 

OL upgrades should come through free agency, and some of our other draft picks. 

 

Beane is hinting on BPA. I love D.K. Metcalf but I think a Top 5 pick might be too high. 

[GunnerBill]

If they are picking top 6 (as we are at present) and they are desperate to draft offense (they may well be) then they should get on the phone take what they can get and trade back. There is no offensive player in this draft worth a top 6 pick in my mind. Mid first you start to bring the OL and WR value into play. 

[HOUSE]

Richie Incognito will cut off your head for posting this

 

Edited December 11, 2018 by HOUSE

[GunnerBill]

5 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Take a pass rushing D Line. 

 

Fill your holes on offense via trade/FA.

 

I am with you Scott. If there is a high ceiling pass rusher there I don't think we can afford to pass. 

[All_Pro_Bills]

22 hours ago, T master said:

If they expect Allen to develop into any thing worth being called franchise guy then they have to invest in the O line first & get him some WR's that can get separation if they can do that he can do the rest !

 

Brady makes very average WR's look good & if Allen can develop his skills then he should be able to do the same thing !! Maybe not in the same perspective that Brady has done given his career but he can be our guy for a long time !!

Absolutely right.  And THE big reason, aside from his own abilities, is that he's had a consistently very good offensive line group throughout his career.  Build the line. 

[CaptnCoke11]

23 hours ago, jrober38 said:

I think the Bills have to get Allen a premier WR with their 1st round pick.

 

OL upgrades should come through free agency, and some of our other draft picks. 

Doesn’t look like there’s one close to where Buffalo will be picking.  I’d rather them get the best player they can in the top 10

[billspro]

55 minutes ago, FeelingOnYouboty said:

 

Beane is hinting on BPA. I love D.K. Metcalf but I think a Top 5 pick might be too high. 

 

Metcalf is the only WR I would consider in the top 10. This is a deep WR class, there will be some good value in round 2.

 

My dream offseason would be adding a guard and center in free agency. Then drafting an OT in round 1. Then hopefully we can hit on a WR in round 2 and a RB in round 3.

 

We have lots of free agent money, so hopefully we can add a WR2 a decent TE and some defensive depth.

[ChanticleerBillsFan]

23 hours ago, jrober38 said:

I think the Bills have to get Allen a premier WR with their 1st round pick.

 

OL upgrades should come through free agency, and some of our other draft picks. 

Agree. Anybody you like coming out? I like Metcalf, a lot of explosion. A little of what I’ve watched of the other top receivers, they don’t seem to be very explosive like Metcalf 

[DCOrange]

I'm starting to think that if he leaves Tampa, Donovan Smith will end up being a Bills target in the offseason.

[GunnerBill]

10 minutes ago, DCOrange said:

I'm starting to think that if he leaves Tampa, Donovan Smith will end up being a Bills target in the offseason.

 

Call me unenthused by that prospect.

[DCOrange]

Just now, GunnerBill said:

 

Call me unenthused by that prospect.

As someone that has watched almost every Bucs game since he was drafted, I concur.

[Captain Murica]

Id say OL is at the top along with the 1b need being WR. 

[Victory Formation]

41 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Take a pass rushing D Line. 

 

Fill your holes on offense via trade/FA.

Some needs such as RT will be hard to fill in FA. We will be drafting a new RT fairly high. Go guard and center in FA. Ramon Foster and Matt Paradis would be the best posible outcome leading up to the draft. There is good OL depth RDS 2-5 so if we need a couple of OL there we're in a good position to take a RT and G there. We're picking top 10, if BPA is a DE take them. No bones about it. We lack something on D. Ferrell, Allen and Winovich. Those guys would be great in BUFFALO.

[wppete]

Seems like there will be a lot of quality Offensive Linemen in the first 3 rounds. We can get 2 OL in the first 3 rounds. 

[SCBills]

CBS new mock draft has us taking Miss St DT at 6.  No, just no.

 

One thing I did notice about the recent mock drafts is there is A LOT of wide receiver talent on the board in Round 2.  Like DL, it's a very deep draft and you will still have Round 1 talent available in Rd 2.

 

 

Edited December 11, 2018 by SCBills

[wppete]

Here is an article on the atop Offensive linemen to watch during the bowl season from the 49ers website:

 

https://www.ninersnation.com/2018/12/10/18134068/2019-nfl-draft-position-rankings-offensive-line-jonah-williams-trey-adams-tyler-biadasz

[FeelingOnYouboty]

42 minutes ago, billspro said:

 

Metcalf is the only WR I would consider in the top 10. This is a deep WR class, there will be some good value in round 2.

 

My dream offseason would be adding a guard and center in free agency. Then drafting an OT in round 1. Then hopefully we can hit on a WR in round 2 and a RB in round 3.

 

We have lots of free agent money, so hopefully we can add a WR2 a decent TE and some defensive depth.

 

Matt Paradis-C  and Daryl Williams-RT are the OL I want in FA. That's two areas of need solved. I think we can get an Alex Bars or Beau Benzschawel in the 3rd or 4th to solve the RG position.

 

And you're correct with the Metcalf take. He's the only guy I consider in the Top 10 if we can get his injury record cleared. I really like Kelvin Harmon too but this is about 20 spots too high for him.

 

 

16 minutes ago, SCBills said:

CBS new mock draft has us taking Miss St DT at 6.  No, just no.

 

One thing I did notice about the recent mock drafts is there is A LOT of wide receiver talent on the board in Round 2.  Like DL, it's a very deep draft and you will still have Round 1 talent available in Rd 2.

 

 

 

Great player but he's not Oliver or Williams and he's a sketchy character guy which McBeane will not want

[GunnerBill]

18 minutes ago, SCBills said:

CBS new mock draft has us taking Miss St DT at 6.  No, just no.

 

One thing I did notice about the recent mock drafts is there is A LOT of wide receiver talent on the board in Round 2.  Like DL, it's a very deep draft and you will still have Round 1 talent available in Rd 2.

 

 

 

Agree it is a deep wide receiver draft. Don't agree you will have a lot of Rd 1 talent there in Rd 2. I think it is a WR draft with a lot of guys who are a bit raw or not quite well rounded complete receivers. There is a lot of round 2 and 3 guys who can either compete right away but have lower ceilings or are raw high ceiling guys. I think there might be 8-10 receiver who are genuinely 2nd round talent types. Some of those will go in the 1st, the odd one might drop to the 3rd...... but round 2 is definitely a sweet spot for receivers this year.

[jrober38]

2 hours ago, FeelingOnYouboty said:

 

Beane is hinting on BPA. I love D.K. Metcalf but I think a Top 5 pick might be too high. 

 

I think he's overrated. More of a physical freak than an accomplished wide receiver. I need to watch more but very few people have him in the first round like alone the top 5. 

 

1 hour ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

Doesn’t look like there’s one close to where Buffalo will be picking.  I’d rather them get the best player they can in the top 10

 

Harry, Brown and Harmon are all rated as top 10 players on some big boards. 

 

This draft is loaded at WR. 

 

1 hour ago, ChanticleerBillsFan said:

Agree. Anybody you like coming out? I like Metcalf, a lot of explosion. A little of what I’ve watched of the other top receivers, they don’t seem to be very explosive like Metcalf 

 

He seems really raw. Good athlete but I'm not totally sure. Haven't watched much of him this year and there's very little video available online. Seems like he probably benefited a lot from having Brown on the field with him. 

Edited December 11, 2018 by jrober38

[FeelingOnYouboty]

8 minutes ago, jrober38 said:

 

I think he's overrated. More of a physical freak than an accomplished wide receiver. 

 

Harry, Brown and Harmon are all rated as top 10 players on some big boards. 

 

This draft is loaded at WR. 

 

Josh Allen and Tremaine Edmunds were physical freaks that were considered projects. Metcalf has a lot of room to grow but I wouldn't be surprised if Beane fell in love with him.

[klos63]

On 12/10/2018 at 8:06 AM, RyanC883 said:

I think you get a C in FA.  We need a veteran Center for Allen.   I also think we need a TE upgrade.  Get Jesse James from PIT.

 

  I'd get the WR in the 2nd round after taking BPA in the 1st.   One of the Brown's (Old Miss or Oklahoma) should be available in early 2nd round.  Both good hands and speed.  Then try covering Brown, Foster, Zay and McKenzie.    If Allen has time, 2 of them should always be open. 

 

We also need a RB. 

we need a lot

[jrober38]

1 minute ago, FeelingOnYouboty said:

 

Josh Allen and Tremaine Edmunds were physical freaks that were considered projects. Metcalf has a lot of room to grow but I wouldn't be surprised if Beane fell in love with him.

 

Maybe. He reminds me a lot of Corderelle Patterson. Big, strong, going to blow up the combine, but not an accomplished route runner and he'll have trouble gaining separation at the NFL level. I think his upside is as a really good #2 guy who stretches the field, but not sure he's got the polish to be a #1 guy. 

 

Whatever happens there are going to be tons of options available. This is a great year to need a WR. 

[MrEpsYtown]

Shaq Mason signed an extension with NE. I have a major issue reaching for need in the top ten of the draft. Little, Williams, are simply not BPA at that point. You cannot plug holes with top ten picks. You can trade down and draft lineman, but don't draft linemen in the top ten unless they elite left tackles like Joe Thomas. Never draft a guard or right tackle that high unless they are 100% no doubt plug and play all pro like Quentin Nelson. Williams, Little et al are simply not in that category. 

 

Our draft board has to be:

Bosa

The defensive tackles: Oliver, Williams, etc. 

Josh Allen OLB

 

OL and WR will be huge reaches if taken that high. 

 

Fill those in free agency or via trades. 

Edited December 11, 2018 by MrEpsYtown

[FeelingOnYouboty]

12 minutes ago, jrober38 said:

 

Maybe. He reminds me a lot of Corderelle Patterson. Big, strong, going to blow up the combine, but not an accomplished route runner and he'll have trouble gaining separation at the NFL level. I think his upside is as a really good #2 guy who stretches the field, but not sure he's got the polish to be a #1 guy. 

 

Whatever happens there are going to be tons of options available. This is a great year to need a WR. 

 

I love Kelvin Harmon. Not as explosive as Metcalf or big but he's probably going to run a 4.5 and he has good size at 6'2 216. For a junior he's got the nuances down on playing the position. 

 

Check again on Metcalf though. Other than the size and athletic ability his biggest strength is his release and the separation he creates and unlike AJ Brown who strictly plays in the slot he's always on the perimeter. He only runs three routes at the moment but he's a mega talent. 

 

It's more likely we're going with Ed Oliver, Clelin Ferrell, Josh Allen or Greedy Williams with our first pick anyways.

[jrober38]

Just now, FeelingOnYouboty said:

 

I love Kelvin Harmon. Not as explosive as Metcalf or big but he's probably going to run a 4.5 and he has good size at 6'2 216. For a junior he's got the nuances down on playing the position. 

 

Check again on Metcalf though. Other than the size and athletic ability his biggest strength is his release and the separation he creates and unlike AJ Brown who strictly plays in the slot he's always on the perimeter. He only runs three routes at the moment but he's a mega talent. 

 

It's more likely we're going with Ed Oliver, Clelin Ferrell, Josh Allen or Greedy Williams with our first pick anyways.

 

It's way too early to say where we'll go. The FA Class of wide receivers is terrible, and we desperately need a #1 WR. 

 

I think they fix the line in FA, but past that it's hard to see a bigger need than an elite play maker on the outside. 

[Houston's #1 Bills Fan]

Having a true #1 receiver is useless if Allen has no time to throw the ball. We've seen when he has time, has makes great throws. So, priority #1 is secure the OL. Then find a wide receiver, then TE, then RB. After that, DL and CB.