26CornerBlitz Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Steelers Don't Expect Le'Veon Bell to Play in '18 Don't expect Le'Veon Bell to show up to the Steelers facility, or anytime this season for that matter.The team is not expecting their star RB to play for them this season, sources told Ian Rapoport. Don't expect Le'Veon Bell to show up to the Pittsburgh Steelers facility next week, or anytime this season for that matter. Despite owner Art Rooney's recent comments anticipating Bell's return to the facility, the team is not expecting their star RB to play for them this season, sources told NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport. Rapoport added Pittsburgh wants him back on the roster, but the front office believes Bell will stay away and await free agency in 2019. Sources: Bell Not Expected to Show by Deadline Pittsburgh Steelers running back Le'Veon Bell is unlikely to report to the team by Tuesday's deadline, which would make him ineligible to play the rest of this season, multiple league sources tell ESPN. Even as the Steelers now brace to lose their marquee running back for the entire season, Bell's camp continues to maintain its cone of silence and repeatedly has declined to address with reporters his plans for the coming week. As the team and its fans await Tuesday's 4 p.m. ET deadline, by which Bell must report or be ineligible to play for the remainder of the season, it is worth remembering what the Pro Bowl back said in January. Ten months ago, Bell said he "definitely would consider" sitting out the 2018 season or retiring if the Steelers used the franchise tag on him for a second consecutive season. The Steelers did use the tag, and there are no indications that Bell will report by the deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 We're all clearly seeing just how badly missed a star RB of his caliber is in Pittsburgh! Only game the Bills have played worth a crap this year was completely missed by Shady, too. Pound and ground! Control the line of scrimmage! 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Good. My running back group stays great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Coffin Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 I hope the Steelers transition tag him next season lolll 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 11, 2018 Author Share Posted November 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, Laughing Coffin said: I hope the Steelers transition tag him next season lolll He would just sit out again. They are better off just letting him walk rather than dealing with the headache. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Looking at Tuhrod's numbers it makes sense why we had to trade him, since it looked like he would not renegotiate again. But damn we paid for not having at least someone serviceable back there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 45 minutes ago, Laughing Coffin said: I hope the Steelers transition tag him next season lolll It'll cost them $25.5 million just to make a point. My guess is no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahnyc Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 He killed my fantasy team this year. Drafted him in the first round (fourth overall) before it became clear that he would not report for the first game of the season. I will never forgive him (not that he cares). 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, BillsRdue said: Looking at Tuhrod's numbers it makes sense why we had to trade him, since it looked like he would not renegotiate again. But damn we paid for not having at least someone serviceable back there. How much better is this team with a "serviceable" QB? 2 more wins maybe? Still sitting home in January, so there's no point chasing bad draft position. Just now, jahnyc said: He killed my fantasy team this year. Drafted him in the first round (fourth overall) before it became clear that he would not report for the first game of the season. I will never forgive him (not that he cares). 2nd overall for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eanyills Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 I can’t wait until he doesn’t get anywhere near what he thinks he’s going to. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Bell has screwed himself royally imo. Is he a top 5 RB? Sure. He has also proven himself to be a selfish, me first type of player. I don't see him being able to cash in like he would have had he just showed up at work, collected his 15 mill, and did his job. Good for Connor though. He's made the most of his opportunity. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, eanyills said: I can’t wait until he doesn’t get anywhere near what he thinks he’s going to. It was a gamble sitting out this season and passing on $14 million. But obviously Bell factored in the risk of serious injury (this happened to Matt Forte in a similar situation), which would destroy his future value. So I don't think it's an irrational decision at all. Whether he will ultimately come out ahead, well, who knows ... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Goat Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, jahnyc said: He killed my fantasy team this year. Drafted him in the first round (fourth overall) before it became clear that he would not report for the first game of the season. I will never forgive him (not that he cares). My league mates picked team names centered around our first-round draft picks. Examples: "Mean Gurleys," "Lights, Kamara, Action!" I called mine "Le'Veon Smells." Edited November 11, 2018 by Golden Goat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthomas Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 12 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: It was a gamble sitting out this season and passing on $14 million. But obviously Bell factored in the risk of serious injury (this happened to Matt Forte in a similar situation), which would destroy his future value. So I don't think it's an irrational decision at all. Whether he will ultimately come out ahead, well, who knows ... True. But i dont see how he can come out ahead after forfeiting $14 million, plus while hurting his reputation in the process. I mean to make it up say he plays for another 5 years. He'd have to get a salary increase of $3 million each year just to break even. Is any team gonna offer him $18 million per year on a 5-7 year deal? After missing a whole season? I think he made a mistake personally. Perhaps his agent gave him bad advice idk. Tbh idk too much about the whole affair, but I'm glad he wasn't on our team. Any future GM's will have to thoroughly vet this whole affair before offering him a contract. If i were a gm i'd have a hard time offering tons of guaranteed money, knowing at some point Bell might decide its not good enough. Like i said i'm just glad he wasnt a Bill haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 (edited) 45 minutes ago, H2o said: Bell has screwed himself royally imo. Is he a top 5 RB? Sure. He has also proven himself to be a selfish, me first type of player. I don't see him being able to cash in like he would have had he just showed up at work, collected his 15 mill, and did his job. Good for Connor though. He's made the most of his opportunity. Tell that to Earl Thomas. 19 minutes ago, brianthomas said: True. But i dont see how he can come out ahead after forfeiting $14 million, plus while hurting his reputation in the process. I mean to make it up say he plays for another 5 years. He'd have to get a salary increase of $3 million each year just to break even. Is any team gonna offer him $18 million per year on a 5-7 year deal? After missing a whole season? I think he made a mistake personally. Perhaps his agent gave him bad advice idk. Tbh idk too much about the whole affair, but I'm glad he wasn't on our team. Any future GM's will have to thoroughly vet this whole affair before offering him a contract. If i were a gm i'd have a hard time offering tons of guaranteed money, knowing at some point Bell might decide its not good enough. Like i said i'm just glad he wasnt a Bill haha I hope we go after him hard next year. Assuming JA can figure out how to play football, and we can completely revamp the O-line, and get one legit WR, we'd be serious contenders if our D can stay on par. What's pretty crazy considering how bad the Bills are, is that our window with this current core (White, Hughes, Hyde, Poyer, Edmunds, Milano, JA) is already on a clock. In another 3 years some of these guys will be gone, or their salaries will be so inflated that it's going to cause problems elsewhere. If this staff is at all serious about winning, they need to do whatever they can to put together a run next season. That means loading up with offense that's ready to contribute day 1, not day 2 rookies. Edited November 11, 2018 by BullBuchanan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 20 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Tell that to Earl Thomas. I hope we go after him hard next year. Assuming JA can figure out how to play football, and we can completely revamp the O-line, and get one legit WR, we'd be serious contenders if our D can stay on par. What's pretty crazy considering how bad the Bills are, is that our window with this current core (White, Hughes, Hyde, Poyer, Edmunds, Milano, JA) is already on a clock. In another 3 years some of these guys will be gone, or their salaries will be so inflated that it's going to cause problems elsewhere. If this staff is at all serious about winning, they need to do whatever they can to put together a run next season. That means loading up with offense that's ready to contribute day 1, not day 2 rookies. I’m sure lots of teams materially improve in one year at 9 starting positions on O all the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 9 minutes ago, row_33 said: I’m sure lots of teams materially improve in one year at 9 starting positions on O all the time They don't need 9. They need two serviceable, not great guards (maybe 1 if teller works out) 1 WR minimum, and an RB that has explosive ability. If they go into next season with just a 31 year old McCoy, they'll need a lot more receiving help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 HE'S RUINED A LOT OF ****ING FANTASY KEEPER LEAGUE TEAMS THIS YEAR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 I'm just in a rebuild is all. McBean would be proud of my 2-7 season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 2 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: He would just sit out again. They are better off just letting him walk rather than dealing with the headache. I would transition him, sitting out another year will do irreparable damage to his career and his earnings which is what he deserves. The owners can't let the NFL turn into the NBA were the players run the teams. 1 hour ago, BullBuchanan said: It'll cost them $25.5 million just to make a point. My guess is no. good point, hopefully no one gives him what he wants, these players are getting out of control with their demands. This is a team sport and it's hard to have a good team if a few guys are hogging all the money. their really needs to be a position cap so you are not spending 30 million a year on a QB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 1 hour ago, eanyills said: I can’t wait until he doesn’t get anywhere near what he thinks he’s going to. you're probably right. What team would want this cancer on their team . RBs are a dime a dozen, does he really think he's going to get more than 15 mil ?? He screwed himself and it could be possible no one will give him big money. 1 hour ago, Golden Goat said: My league mates picked team names centered around our first-round draft picks. Examples: "Mean Gurleys," "Lights, Kamara, Action!" I called mine "Le'Veon Smells." sounds about right lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 20 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: I would transition him, sitting out another year will do irreparable damage to his career and his earnings which is what he deserves. The owners can't let the NFL turn into the NBA were the players run the teams. good point, hopefully no one gives him what he wants, these players are getting out of control with their demands. This is a team sport and it's hard to have a good team if a few guys are hogging all the money. their really needs to be a position cap so you are not spending 30 million a year on a QB. The cap keeps going up and it's gotta go to somebody. If you're the best in class at what you do, you should be paid accordingly. Unless theyre going to start reducing ticket/NFL Sunday ticket costs, I don't see the cap falling anytime soon. I think they need to raise the rookie minimum wage so that if you get drafted at all, you have just about enough money for the rest of your life. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Can we put votes on annual poster awards? 26 Corner Blitz for best thread starters. Hapless for being the most open minded (to a fault). Ole Dirty B for most successful hot takes of the year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 1 hour ago, BullBuchanan said: Tell that to Earl Thomas. I hope we go after him hard next year. Assuming JA can figure out how to play football, and we can completely revamp the O-line, and get one legit WR, we'd be serious contenders if our D can stay on par. What's pretty crazy considering how bad the Bills are, is that our window with this current core (White, Hughes, Hyde, Poyer, Edmunds, Milano, JA) is already on a clock. In another 3 years some of these guys will be gone, or their salaries will be so inflated that it's going to cause problems elsewhere. If this staff is at all serious about winning, they need to do whatever they can to put together a run next season. That means loading up with offense that's ready to contribute day 1, not day 2 rookies. There is no way in Hell , this regime is going after this clown nor should they. James Connor and most other backs have proven you can find them anywhere. The only player I would go after in this situation is a QB and I still wouldn't feel good about it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 23 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: I would transition him, sitting out another year will do irreparable damage to his career and his earnings which is what he deserves. The owners can't let the NFL turn into the NBA were the players run the teams. good point, hopefully no one gives him what he wants, these players are getting out of control with their demands. This is a team sport and it's hard to have a good team if a few guys are hogging all the money. their really needs to be a position cap so you are not spending 30 million a year on a QB. Just now, Buffalo Barbarian said: There is no way in Hell , this regime is going after this clown nor should they. James Connor and most other backs have proven you can find them anywhere. The only player I would go after in this situation is a QB and I still wouldn't feel good about it. Yea, because they're incompetent. You need game breaking players, and several of them to win in this league. I get it, he's a clown because he's protecting his career. Keep stumping for the owners and maybe they'll give you some table scraps. What do you think about Bosa quitting school to save himself for the draft? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 1 minute ago, BullBuchanan said: The cap keeps going up and it's gotta go to somebody. If you're the best in class at what you do, you should be paid accordingly. Unless theyre going to start reducing ticket/NFL Sunday ticket costs, I don't see the cap falling anytime soon. I think they need to raise the rookie minimum wage so that if you get drafted at all, you have just about enough money for the rest of your life. the NFL is not free market capitalism. There is a cap and if you overlay a few guys the rest of your players are not going to be good enough to do any real winning. There is a reason Brady doesn't maximize his earnings , he wants to win and knows that money is needed elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: the NFL is not free market capitalism. There is a cap and if you overlay a few guys the rest of your players are not going to be good enough to do any real winning. There is a reason Brady doesn't maximize his earnings , he wants to win and knows that money is needed elsewhere. Brady has $217 million in career earnings so far. Le'veon bell has $16 million. You couldn't have used a worse example. Edited November 11, 2018 by BullBuchanan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Yea, because they're incompetent. You need game breaking players, and several of them to win in this league. I get it, he's a clown because he's protecting his career. Keep stumping for the owners and maybe they'll give you some table scraps. What do you think about Bosa quitting school to save himself for the draft? Bosa and bell are not even the same situation. Bosa is going to another league so it really doesn't matter what he does to his college team. If he pulled this crap in the NFL he would deserve the same treatment. 5 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Brady has $217 million in career earnings so far. Le'veon bell has $16 million. You couldn't have used a worse example. Really ?? How many times has Brady NOT gotten all the money. Try again. And his career earnings over 19 years is just north of 10 mill a year, sounds about right, to me. Edited November 11, 2018 by Buffalo Barbarian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Good. Fug him. Hasn't been missed by anyone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 I don't get all the anger towards Bell, especially on this board. If you were a Pittsburgh fan I could understand the frustration. It's his life, he thinks he's worth more. He's risking it all. Is it jealousy? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Ol Dirty B said: I don't get all the anger towards Bell, especially on this board. If you were a Pittsburgh fan I could understand the frustration. It's his life, he thinks he's worth more. He's risking it all. Is it jealousy? No, it's him ruining the league, do you really want star players doing this and demanding trades and so forth. The last thing the NFL needs is to become the NBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said: I don't get all the anger towards Bell, especially on this board. If you were a Pittsburgh fan I could understand the frustration. It's his life, he thinks he's worth more. He's risking it all. Is it jealousy? I'm thinking it might be something else. 7 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: No, it's him ruining the league, do you really want star players doing this and demanding trades and so forth. The last thing the NFL needs is to become the NBA. Players demand trades in hockey and baseball too. Why isn't that a problem? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 3 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: He would just sit out again. They are better off just letting him walk rather than dealing with the headache. I look at this list and just wonder.....What in the Holy Hell did Jimmy Garoppolo do to earn that kind of contract?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: I look at this list and just wonder.....What in the Holy Hell did Jimmy Garoppolo do to earn that kind of contract?! He took a winless team undefeated since he started. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 25 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: No, it's him ruining the league, do you really want star players doing this and demanding trades and so forth. The last thing the NFL needs is to become the NBA. Football is completely different than the NBA. Le'veon is great, but Conner has stepped right in and played great. It's 1 player on one side of the ball. It's not 1 of 5 players who can potentially play the whole game. They also have no guaranteed contracts. That's an awful comparison. Stars come and go in the NFL way quicker, and outside of being a QB. Their power is also diluted in the NFL. This isn't an NFL becoming the NBA thing. If that is what you genuinely think, you're the first person I've ever heard with that opinion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan692 Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 (edited) Thats because LB is NOT what makes the steelers offense great, its been great year after year after year ever since they drafted Ben Roethlisberger. RBs are not that valuable overall and LB will not get whatever ridiculous amount of money he was demanding, if he does it will be to the detriment of wherever he signs with and he will not be as good without a future HOF QB Edited November 11, 2018 by BillsFan692 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 I'm not sure sitting out of football a year and watching a 3rd round rookie make people forget who you are is the best way to get *more* money. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 The owners created this mess by giving into players like Bell. Best case scenario for the entire league is Bell becomes a FA. Then he gets a deal less than Gurley’s. Or Bell can retire. That is a non emotional series of events that leaves everyone making a choice of what’s right for themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 11, 2018 Author Share Posted November 11, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: I would transition him, sitting out another year will do irreparable damage to his career and his earnings which is what he deserves. The owners can't let the NFL turn into the NBA were the players run the teams. good point, hopefully no one gives him what he wants, these players are getting out of control with their demands. This is a team sport and it's hard to have a good team if a few guys are hogging all the money. their really needs to be a position cap so you are not spending 30 million a year on a QB. That would be dumb as hell from the team perspective to tie up that much cap space with no benefit to make them better. Edited November 11, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 7 hours ago, BillsRdue said: Looking at Tuhrod's numbers it makes sense why we had to trade him, since it looked like he would not renegotiate again. But damn we paid for not having at least someone serviceable back there. Tyrod was gone. Guy is a good QB, but not going to get you to the promised land. Dodging a $16m bullet was just smart roster management. Rip the bandaid off and get a guy like Allen you can build around. 3 hours ago, BillsFan692 said: Thats because LB is NOT what makes the steelers offense great, its been great year after year after year ever since they drafted Ben Roethlisberger. RBs are not that valuable overall and LB will not get whatever ridiculous amount of money he was demanding, if he does it will be to the detriment of wherever he signs with and he will not be as good without a future HOF QB yep. its a QB league with the rules the way they are. If you have one , you're in good shape, don't and your f'd. especially second half of the year when the injuries hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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