Kevin1778 Posted November 10, 2018 Author Share Posted November 10, 2018 Just now, Stank_Nasty said: Right. Let’s compare a rookie traveling to lambeau and getting blanked to a guy that has thrown a historical % of interceptions per pass attempt. That makes sense. Good job buddy. ZERO points. It is not the quarterbacks. It is the line. The Bills can't run the ball either. Peterman is a scapegoat. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 He should be fired regardless who starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Kevin1778 said: ZERO points. It is not the quarterbacks. It is the line. The Bills can't run the ball either. Peterman is a scapegoat. Period. Alright, come on. You are Sean McDermott aren’t you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 I don't know what you are worried about. McCoach has proven that he is expert at managing the QB situation while he has been head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin1778 Posted November 10, 2018 Author Share Posted November 10, 2018 Just now, Kirby Jackson said: Talking to a rock?!! The QBs are on pace to throw 5 TDs and 28 INTs!! They are doing that in this era. You don’t believe that is an issue. No quarterback could put up decent numbers with that offensive line. Anderson is a solid quarterback in league for a decade. He turned it over 6x and didn't throw a single TD. He had no time to throw the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Kevin1778 said: ZERO points. It is not the quarterbacks. It is the line. The Bills can't run the ball either. Peterman is a scapegoat. Period. Right. He was getting slammed to the turf when he gift wrapped the game to the Texans. SMH what was your excuse for him last year when he had a line and still sucked butt Edited November 10, 2018 by Stank_Nasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Just now, Kevin1778 said: Not worried about him not being very good, worried about him getting injured behind a not very good line. Never in all my years of following the "next great Bills QB" have I seen fans want a guy shelved as much as they want Allen shelved. Nobody ever worried about EJ getting injured or ruined by Nate Hackett's offense. I'm not just talking about this situation. Going back to training camp, there's this sense that fans want to keep Allen on the bench as long as humanly possible. I get it. If he looks like crap, next year doesn't look so bright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Just now, Kevin1778 said: No quarterback could put up decent numbers with that offensive line. Anderson is a solid quarterback in league for a decade. He turned it over 6x and didn't throw a single TD. He had no time to throw the ball. Lololololol. It’s not petermans fault and Anderson was a solid qb for a decade. We all need some of what this dude is smoking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Kevin1778 said: ZERO points. It is not the quarterbacks. It is the line. The Bills can't run the ball either. Peterman is a scapegoat. Period. You sure about that? I recall a 5 pick performance with a line that included Wood and Incognito. Peterman has a rag arm and doesn’t account for it in the way he plays. You’re trying to defend the indefensible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin1778 Posted November 10, 2018 Author Share Posted November 10, 2018 Just now, Stank_Nasty said: Right. He was getting slammed to the turf when he gifted wrapped the game to the Texans. SMH what was your excuse for him last year when he had a line and still sucked butt Tyrod threw for 50 yards in a game. The line didn't pass block last year either. This line is worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Kevin1778 said: No quarterback could put up decent numbers with that offensive line. Anderson is a solid quarterback in league for a decade. He turned it over 6x and didn't throw a single TD. He had no time to throw the ball. He had started 4 games in the last 8 years!! That’s tells you how inept your boy was. They had to pull this old man off of the golf course because NP wasn’t an option to ever play. You said that “no QB could succeed in this environment.” Do you believe that Drew Brees would throw for 2,416 yards, 5 TDs and 28 INts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin1778 Posted November 10, 2018 Author Share Posted November 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: Never in all my years of following the "next great Bills QB" have I seen fans want a guy shelved as much as they want Allen shelved. Nobody ever worried about EJ getting injured or ruined by Nate Hackett's offense. I'm not just talking about this situation. Going back to training camp, there's this sense that fans want to keep Allen on the bench as long as humanly possible. I get it. If he looks like crap, next year doesn't look so bright. Yes, sitting him for 1 extra game before a bye is asking for him to be shelved. Geniuses are out in force today. Just now, Kirby Jackson said: He had started 4 games in the last 8 years!! That’s tells you how inept your boy was. They had to pull this old man off of the golf course because NP wasn’t an option to ever play. You said that “no QB could succeed in this environment.” Do you believe that Drew Brees would throw for 2,416 yards, 5 TDs and 28 INts? Drew Brees wouldn't do much better with this line and these receivers. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Ladies, find you a man that looks at you the way that Kevin 1778 looks at Nate Peterman. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 44 minutes ago, Kevin1778 said: Once again, if you are limited in practice you aren't fully healthy. Does it? Name me a player that is fully healthy at this point of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Kevin1778 said: Yes, sitting him for 1 extra game before a bye is asking for him to be shelved. Geniuses are out in force today. Drew Brees wouldn't do much better with this line and these receivers. Right here it is folks.... a first ballot HOF’r “wouldn’t do much better” than Anderson, peterman, and the rookie. LOVE IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin1778 Posted November 10, 2018 Author Share Posted November 10, 2018 Just now, Kirby Jackson said: Ladies, find you a man that looks at you the way that Kevin 1778 looks at Nate Peterman. I have no problem cutting Peterman. I just don't want Allen playing tomorrow. Barkley is just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 No. You're wrong. But if he EVER starts Peterman again, the likelihood he gets fired dramatically increases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin1778 Posted November 10, 2018 Author Share Posted November 10, 2018 Just now, Stank_Nasty said: Right here it is folks.... a first ballot HOF’r “wouldn’t do much better” than Anderson, peterman, and the rookie. LOVE IT He wouldn't. Neither would Brady. They would have no time to throw and nobody to throw it to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcampbell104 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 if allen doesnt start i have plenty of yard work to do tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 52 minutes ago, Kevin1778 said: Josh Allen has not played a game in 4 weeks. He has yet to listed as Full in a single practice, meaning he has been Limited or has not practiced at all in a month. Any coach who starts a franchise quarterback without being listed as Full in a single practice, coming off an injury like his, should be fired. Start Barkley if he is afraid to start Peterman. But do not risk the future of the Buffalo Bills so a 2-7 team can possibly win a game. If Allen plays and is injured, Fire McDermott on the airplane tarmac, just like the Raiders did to Kiffen. The fact McDermott hasn't already rule him out makes one wonder if he should be anything more than a defensive coordinator. This young player needs a full week of FULL practice before he should ever get back on the field against a real defense. Will you take the lead on the gofundme? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin1778 Posted November 10, 2018 Author Share Posted November 10, 2018 Just now, transplantbillsfan said: No. You're wrong. But if he EVER starts Peterman again, the likelihood he gets fired dramatically increases. He doesn't have to start Peterman. He has Barkley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Stank_Nasty said: Right here it is folks.... a first ballot HOF’r “wouldn’t do much better” than Anderson, peterman, and the rookie. LOVE IT Brees has already thrown 18 TDs and has 1 INT. If he were here though he would have 3 TDs and 16 INTs. Brees is on pace for 36 TDs and 2 INTs. If he were in Buffalo those numbers would be 5 TDs and 28 INTs. Brees is on pace to throw for 4,700 yards. If he were here it would be 2,400. I guess I didn’t realize QBs were so interchangeable? I always thought that they were an important part of the offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcampbell104 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Kevin1778 said: He doesn't have to start Peterman. He has Barkley. that is probably the most depressing thing i have ever read 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin1778 Posted November 10, 2018 Author Share Posted November 10, 2018 1 minute ago, tcampbell104 said: that is probably the most depressing thing i have ever read Who cares. It is one game. They have six games left with Allen as starter and Anderson to back him up. 4 at home. Plenty of games for experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 32 minutes ago, Kevin1778 said: ZERO points. It is not the quarterbacks. It is the line. The Bills can't run the ball either. Peterman is a scapegoat. Period. there is a reason the Bills can't run the ball. it is called not fearing the long ball, which allows the opposing D to stack the box with 8/9/10 men. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Kevin1778 said: If he was fully healthy he wouldn't have been limited in practice. You can be healthy enough to play and limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodHands15 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Gimme Allen and max protection. I’ll watch the whole game 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Kevin1778 said: Once again, if you are limited in practice you aren't fully healthy. Or perhaps they are not being stupid and practicing him hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel101 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Kevin1778 said: Like talking to a rock. You could put the top rated QB in the NFL behind center and this is still the worst offense in the NFL. Playing Allen tomorrow is insanity. And you don't have to play Peteman. You are crazy if you think Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers, Big Ben, or Phillip Rivers doesn’t make this team a lot better. First off teams would stop stacking the box and committing to stopping the run. Our receivers do drop a lot of passes and don’t give out a great effort. With a better QB comes a better effort. And anyone I named would be able to beat a blitz and know what route beats what coverage. Is our entire offense bad yeah. Do we need a new OC yeah. But with our defense an elite QB would make us a playoff team. ***** even Carson Wentz, Matt Ryan, Or Jared Goff make us a playoff team. I’m probably missing someone but a good QB would take advantage of our defense and win us games. Right now no QB on our roster is capable of that Edited November 10, 2018 by Rebel101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 ...just cannot believe we have transcended the bowels of futility and signed Matt Freakin' Barkley.........the "OBD Mecca of QB Analysis and Development" shines once again......THE most important position on the field is like a leper colony post Kelly......yet I'm CERTAIN that Culley will correct my lousy attitude with his expert tutelage as will Castillo in molding the next "Hawgs Unit"...my apology........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 If Allen plays it means he is 100% healthy. They are not putting their franchise QB out there if he’s not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Mojo44 said: Anybody who says somebody should be fired should be fired from this board. Silly! You know it. I especially recall the past post that someone should be fired NOW because we passed on Mahomes. What is it with firing people that makes armchair fans get such a woody? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel101 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 38 minutes ago, Kevin1778 said: He wouldn't. Neither would Brady. They would have no time to throw and nobody to throw it to. The patriots run a quick schemes offense which is something we should be running with our ***** OLine. Our OC is stupid but the line could be masked by a good QB and a good scheme easily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Kevin1778 said: Like talking to a rock. You could put the top rated QB in the NFL behind center and this is still the worst offense in the NFL. Playing Allen tomorrow is insanity. And you don't have to play Peteman. Hang 'em up man; you're wrong here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 No coach should ever be fired for doing one thing. This thread is stupid. Kevin, you’re doubtful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Kevin1778 said: Josh Allen has not played a game in 4 weeks. He has yet to listed as Full in a single practice, meaning he has been Limited or has not practiced at all in a month. Any coach who starts a franchise quarterback without being listed as Full in a single practice, coming off an injury like his, should be fired. Start Barkley if he is afraid to start Peterman. But do not risk the future of the Buffalo Bills so a 2-7 team can possibly win a game. If Allen plays and is injured, Fire McDermott on the airplane tarmac, just like the Raiders did to Kiffen. The fact McDermott hasn't already rule him out makes one wonder if he should be anything more than a defensive coordinator. This young player needs a full week of FULL practice before he should ever get back on the field against a real defense. I am not sure why so many folks are looking for a reason to fire McD. but i am fine with Allen sitting another week and then the bye. 46 minutes ago, Kevin1778 said: He doesn't have to start Peterman. He has Barkley. Might as well put in Barkley. But we might see Peterman again. Showcase him for a trade..or something that has little to do with winning.. : ) at this point i do not care what they do. They screwed the Pooch at QB this year as bad as anyone ever could. Impressive for all the wrong reasons. #SAVEJOSH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 27 minutes ago, GoodHands15 said: Gimme Allen and max protection. I’ll watch the whole game Thats all we got at this point. and that's the reason i was being sure to watch at Game one. Allen would be starting at some point. By game two ! The entertainment factor in watching the Bills this year ? Was to watch Allen progress. and i have enjoyed watching every game he was in. That's fun and involving ! 16 minutes ago, boater said: You know it. I especially recall the past post that someone should be fired NOW because we passed on Mahomes. What is it with firing people that makes armchair fans get such a woody? strikes me as odd and yes i recall that theme and others like that. reason to fire all of them. we should start a poll ! all in fun for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Nope. If he's healthy he starts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 How many times can we fire one guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Kevin1778 said: Once again, if you are limited in practice you aren't fully healthy. Yep sit him. No idea why they didn't immediately get Barkley immediate first team snaps this week. He's the obvious choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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