Occasi-Cortez Channeling the Rent's too damn high guy

[plenzmd1]

3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

Don't forget he's divorced too! TWICE!!! Simply scandalous! 

?
 

i said nothing bout that..ever! As said, i don't have a problem with him having sex with anyone, as long as it was consensual.I also don't think everyone who has strayed is an immoral cretin, i think we all make mistakes in this life. But I don't think the Evangelicals think that way and that was my point 

[Buffalo_Gal]

2 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

i said nothing bout that..ever! As said, i don't have a problem with him having sex with anyone, as long as it was consensual.I also don't think everyone who has strayed is an immoral cretin, i think we all make mistakes in this life. But I don't think the Evangelicals think that way and that was my point 

Isn't there something in the new testament about forgiveness? 

Note: I cannot speak for evangelicals in any way. I am not religious or even spiritual, I'd go so far as to label my "beliefs" agnostic.  

[Deranged Rhino]

Trump press pool in the Oval right now re Apollo anniversary turned to questions about the rally chant -- I wish I had a pic right now, because the way Melania is standing/looking is interesting. She looks pissed and is standing with a clenched fist -- until she started talking, then all smiles. 

(she hates the media)

[KRC]

3 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

Trump press pool in the Oval right now re Apollo anniversary turned to questions about the rally chant -- I wish I had a pic right now, because the way Melania is standing/looking is interesting. She looks pissed and is standing with a clenched fist -- until she started talking, then all smiles. 

(she hates the media)

 

I am waiting for the day when Melania refuses to put up with it anymore and loses her *****. I am going to learn lots of new foreign curse words.

[Whatnot78]

31 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

sorry did not see this, and you are  correct that was an over generalization. What I meant there was i am continually astounded at the support Trump has from Evangelicals and those who preach family values, and yet endorse a guy who was displayed anything but family values.

 

And just to clear, i see nothing wrong with Trump banging a porn star or bedding as many women as he has( as long as none were sexual assault)..my only problem is he was married while doing it. And lord knows i am not saying politicians, or for that matter, anyone , outside of Trump do not stray..just that i am surprised the far right family values crowd continue to have his back. 

 

Understood.  I think that part of it is that Evangelicals and those who are religious are not endorsing him for his family values...many see the stances of the party and side with that (whether its abortion, same sex marriage, etc).  The days of Jimmy Stewart are non existent in politics for as long as I've been alive.  And like you say, politicians in general are not generally good role models for marriages, so the religious look to other areas to gravitate to.

[GG]

14 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

sorry did not see this, and you are  correct that was an over generalization. What I meant there was i am continually astounded at the support Trump has from Evangelicals and those who preach family values, and yet endorse a guy who was displayed anything but family values.

 

And just to clear, i see nothing wrong with Trump banging a porn star or bedding as many women as he has( as long as none were sexual assault)..my only problem is he was married while doing it. And lord knows i am not saying politicians, or for that matter, anyone , outside of Trump do not stray..just that i am surprised the far right family values crowd continue to have his back. 

 

This was discussed a lot during the primaries & the general election, and the answer always came back to Trump being a vessel of frustration for the deplorables.

[plenzmd1]

2 minutes ago, GG said:

 

This was discussed a lot during the primaries & the general election, and the answer always came back to Trump being a vessel of frustration for the deplorables.

not quite sue what ya mean here GG

[GG]

Just now, plenzmd1 said:

not quite sue what ya mean here GG

 

Too lazy to search the election threads right now.

 

This specific topic was discussed a lot - about how do the evangelicals accept Trump, given his sordid personal life?  The answer always was that they were perfectly willing to overlook the peccadilloes, because he was set to deliver far bigger victories for them.   

 

They were right.

[plenzmd1]

Just now, GG said:

 

Too lazy to search the election threads right now.

 

This specific topic was discussed a lot - about how do the evangelicals accept Trump, given his sordid personal life?  The answer always was that they were perfectly willing to overlook the peccadilloes, because he was set to deliver far bigger victories for them.   

 

They were right.

i got cha...and for another thread to argue what he has delivered?

[BringBackOrton]

9 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

i got cha...and for another thread to argue what he has delivered?

Denying another Presidency to the Clinton dynasty or some other empty suit was a win in and of itself to a lot of folks.

[Chef Jim]

2 hours ago, plenzmd1 said:

Is this very discussion not proof? Some really smart people here have said this whole tweet thing was politically motivated. If so, Trump views iy as advantage to the nation to be totally divided on its meaning/message.

 

Interesting.  You failed to address the racial divide here that I was looking for more clarification on.  

[plenzmd1]

6 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

Interesting.  You failed to address the racial divide here that I was looking for more clarification on.  

 Of ahite sure what you mean. I think Trump feels an “us” ( white European Conservatives who feel marginalized ) vs “ them”

( folks of color and immigrants) is a good political strategy for him. 

[IDBillzFan]

7 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

 Of ahite sure what you mean. I think Trump feels an “us” ( white European Conservatives who feel marginalized ) vs “ them”

( folks of color and immigrants) is a good political strategy for him. 

 

I would argue it's more of an Us First, not an Us vs. Them.

 

As an example, even the CA celebrities are pissed that the state wants to give free health care to illegal immigrants, but do nothing about all the homeless and drug issues. Do you know how hard it it to make Cher mad at Democrats?

 

[plenzmd1]

11 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

I would argue it's more of an Us First, not an Us vs. Them.

 

As an example, even the CA celebrities are pissed that the state wants to give free health care to illegal immigrants, but do nothing about all the homeless and drug issues. Do you know how hard it it to make Cher mad at Democrats?

 

I can buy that

[BeginnersMind]

6 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

This is not complicated if you’d simply pay attention, instead of immediately jumping to the CNN talking points. Trump suggested that SHE should CHOOSE to go back home if she doesn’t like it her. The crowd said THEY should SEND her back. There’s a huge difference. Or don’t you believe in a ‘woman’s right to choose’? ?

 

Actually he said that they came from other countries. Not just her. 

 

Then he told them them to go back home. 

 

His wife and kid already took him to the woodshed. That statement is as much as you can expect. We will see what happens at future rallies.  I expect I could predict what he will say word for word. 

 

“You know *they* don’t like it when you do that chant. They are very mean to me But we have to be nice to them...”

[BeginnersMind]

6 hours ago, GG said:

 

You do not get lumped in as a liberal.  You're firmly in the camp of a hot takes poster who now adds very little value to the discourse.

 

I’m no different than I ever was. When there is discourse I engage. 

 

When there is conspiracy nonsense, I mock it endlessly. It’s just the norm here now so I do it more. 

 

The new trend of just pasting tweets here is the pinnacle of lazy “dialog.” I generally don’t engage. 

 

And if you’re lucky, I try to make things nicer here and add a poem once in a while. 

[Deranged Rhino]

[GG]

2 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said:

 

I’m no different than I ever was. When there is discourse I engage. 

 

When there is conspiracy nonsense, I mock it endlessly. It’s just the norm here now so I do it more. 

 

The new trend of just pasting tweets here is the pinnacle of lazy “dialog.” I generally don’t engage. 

 

And if you’re lucky, I try to make things nicer here and add a poem once in a while. 

 

Would that include you walking back your Trump Russia thesis?  I don't recall a single "Oops, my bad" post from you since you started that thread.

[Deranged Rhino]

1 minute ago, GG said:

 

Would that include you walking back your Trump Russia thesis?  I don't recall a single "Oops, my bad" post from you since you started that thread.

 

That would include him having a drop of intellectual honesty or courage. 

 

Based on the frequency he runs and swaps out screen names it doesn't take long to conclude he's lacking in both areas.

[McGee Return TD]

2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

That would include him having a drop of intellectual honesty or courage. 

 

Based on the frequency he runs and swaps out screen names it doesn't take long to conclude he's lacking in both areas.

 

The Second Coming

BY WILLIAM BUTLER YEATS

Turning and turning in the widening gyre   

The falcon cannot hear the falconer;

Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;

Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,

The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere   

The ceremony of innocence is drowned;

The best lack all conviction, while...

 

omg posted under the wrong name LOL

[Deranged Rhino]

[McGee Return TD]

3 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Image fail - you're awful at this.

 

Back to 8chan for ya to look for another meme.

[Foxx]

6 hours ago, DC Tom said:

 

I'll say it again: the board's not anti-liberal, it's anti-schmuck.  Stop being one.

this is what he can not comprehend, at all. it is like he has blinders on and we're all hate filled chans because we don't swallow his shtick. he fails to see that if you bring a good game, it don't matter what side of the ledger you exist upon.

Edited July 19, 2019 by Foxx

[IDBillzFan]

44 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said:

Then he told them them to go back home. 

 

At the risk of people thinking I'm defending Trump, we need to at least be honest, and to be honest, you absolutely MUST explain that what he REALLY TOLD THEM was to go home, fix things there, THEN COME BACK HERE and show us how they did it.

 

Those are two different things, and the truth of the matter is he probably did it on purpose to make everyone on the left piss their pants on public TV by, once again, only taking the parts that fit their narrative.

 

Edited July 19, 2019 by IDBillzFan

[reddogblitz]

1 hour ago, plenzmd1 said:

 Of ahite sure what you mean. I think Trump feels an “us” ( white European Conservatives who feel marginalized ) vs “ them”

( folks of color and immigrants) is a good political strategy for him. 

 

it's a good strategy for the Dems too evidently.  Or at least they think it is.

55 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said:

The new trend of just pasting tweets here is the pinnacle of lazy “dialog.” 

 

Amen!

[Chef Jim]

1 hour ago, plenzmd1 said:

 Of ahite sure what you mean. I think Trump feels an “us” ( white European Conservatives who feel marginalized ) vs “ them”

( folks of color and immigrants) is a good political strategy for him. 

 

You truly think Trump cares not about COC (conservatives of color)? You think all he cares about are whites of European descent?  Can you back up this feeling that only cares about white people?   

[njbuff]

11 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

You truly think Trump cares not about COC (conservatives of color)? You think all he cares about are whites of European descent?  Can you back up this feeling that only cares about white people?   

 

How dare you ask for actual evidence?

 

That's racist dammit, racist.

[plenzmd1]

44 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

You truly think Trump cares not about COC (conservatives of color)? You think all he cares about are whites of European descent?  Can you back up this feeling that only cares about white people?   

did not say that..i said i think he thinks he gains a political advantage by framing the discussion as us( white conservatives) vs them( people of color and immigrants of color)...and please note the "I think "?

Edited July 19, 2019 by plenzmd1

[SoCal Deek]

1 hour ago, plenzmd1 said:

did not say that..i said i think he thinks he gains a political advantage by framing the discussion as us( white conservatives) vs them( people of color and immigrants of color)...and please note the "I think "?

Why is this so hard to understand? Trump is a NATIONALIST!  That’s different from being a RACIST! He’s not anti-immigration. He’s anti-foreigners who try to commit a fraud while breaking our laws. His oath of office says pretty much the same thing.

[plenzmd1]

15 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Why is this so hard to understand? Trump is a NATIONALIST!  That’s different from being a RACIST! He’s not anti-immigration. He’s anti-foreigners who try to commit a fraud while breaking our laws. His oath of office says pretty much the same thing.

Okay , I will play, what does anti foreigners have anything to do with telling 4 American citizens to “ go back from where they came from”. 

[Whatnot78]

1 minute ago, plenzmd1 said:

Okay , I will play, what does anti foreigners have anything to do with telling 4 American citizens to “ go back from where they came from”. 

 

Finish what he said in the tweet.  He says then come back and tell us how to fix the issues.

 

Everyone seems to ignore that part

[plenzmd1]

15 minutes ago, Whatnot78 said:

 

Finish what he said in the tweet.  He says then come back and tell us how to fix the issues.

 

Everyone seems to ignore that part

Conflating arguments, but okay. They are American citizens , born in America, ( 3 of 4) and he is telling them to go back where they came from. So back to Michigan and fix that ***** hole? Where are they supposed to go back to ?

[DC Tom]

3 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

Conflating arguments, but okay. They are American citizens , born in America, ( 3 of 4) and he is telling them to go back where they came from. So back to Michigan and fix that ***** hole? Where are they supposed to go back to ?

 

That's why they were so upset.  You think Tlaib doesn't know it's easier to fix Gaza than Dearborn?   Look at the damage AOC's already done to her district.  

[Whatnot78]

5 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

Conflating arguments, but okay. They are American citizens , born in America, ( 3 of 4) and he is telling them to go back where they came from. So back to Michigan and fix that ***** hole? Where are they supposed to go back to ?

 

I’ve never been to Michigan ?

 

But he did tell them all to come back didn’t he?

[/dev/null]

4 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

Conflating arguments, but okay. They are American citizens , born in America, ( 3 of 4) and he is telling them to go back where they came from. So back to Michigan and fix that ***** hole? Where are they supposed to go back to ?

 

To be fair, of the three born in the US, one is from Detroit which is pretty much a 3rd world country and another is from the Democratic People's Republic of Massachusetts

[Teddy KGB]

3 hours ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

At the risk of people thinking I'm defending Trump, we need to at least be honest, and to be honest, you absolutely MUST explain that what he REALLY TOLD THEM was to go home, fix things there, THEN COME BACK HERE and show us how they did it.

 

Those are two different things, and the truth of the matter is he probably did it on purpose to make everyone on the left piss their pants on public TV by, once again, only taking the parts that fit their narrative.

 

 

This^^^ 

 

It’s pretty embarrassing watching adults go off on these “racist” rants.    

 

 

[plenzmd1]

4 hours ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

At the risk of people thinking I'm defending Trump, we need to at least be honest, and to be honest, you absolutely MUST explain that what he REALLY TOLD THEM was to go home, fix things there, THEN COME BACK HERE and show us how they did it.

 

Those are two different things, and the truth of the matter is he probably did it on purpose to make everyone on the left piss their pants on public TV by, once again, only taking the parts that fit their narrative.

 

I did not see this earlier, but as I have said, go back to where exactly? He told them to go home,,, where is That? 

 

 

Edited July 20, 2019 by plenzmd1

[Whatnot78]

6 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

I did not see this earlier, but as I have said, go back to where exactly? He told them to go home,,, where is That? 

 

 

I don’t have a Twitter account but don’t they have character limits?  Let’s just chalk it up to that. ?

[Chef Jim]

3 hours ago, plenzmd1 said:

did not say that..i said i think he thinks he gains a political advantage by framing the discussion as us( white conservatives) vs them( people of color and immigrants of color)...and please note the "I think "?

 

First off I addressed the “I think” by referring to how to feel. Second.  How is he framing the discussion regarding blacks?  

 

And here’s the real interesting part. You think he is doing the whole border thing because of “brown people” whereas I think he’s doing it because they are ILLEGAL and there are bad people coming in. Again people on the left (and I think you’re more left of center) see color. We on the right, for the most part, see ideologies and situations. 

 

And finally. Let me ask you Paul, do you think there are bad people coming across our southern border? 

25 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

I did not see this earlier, but as I have said, go back to where exactly? He told them to go home,,, where is That? 

 

 

 

That part about going back to where they came from?  He’s an idiot for saying that. But what part of “where they came from” racist? 

[BeginnersMind]

53 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said:

 

This^^^ 

 

It’s pretty embarrassing watching adults go off on these “racist” rants.    

 

 

 

You’re both wrong. He said they were from catastrophic, corrupt countries. Then he told them to go back to those countries. 

 

If if you want to defend what he said as having no racist undertones, it’s a stretch, but at least stick to that.

 

But if you do, you can’t redeem him by defending his statement as accurate because it’s not. Ivanka and Melania got to him and we got the softest backpeddle.  That’s about all we will see. 

Edited July 20, 2019 by BeginnersMind