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4 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Give me a compelling argument.

 

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Tickets are $1.14 with surcharge, you might be the lucky fan who catches and errant silicone device, and you'll likely be leaving by half time. 

 

7 minutes ago, Lurker said:

 

A new promotion from Pegula Sports & Entertainment:      "Poop in Your Seat Day"

 

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(It sure beats the Whammy Weenie)....

 

 

Why is our offense hiding under that seat? 

 

 

 

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My first game was in 1984 in whitch the Bills finished what would be back to back 2 and 14 seasons. The Bills were playing the Denver Broncos in front of a crowd of about 25000 fans and the guy at the ticket window told us that we could sit just about anywhere we wanted. Well the game turned out to be a a comeplete disaster. John Elway was hurt just a few plays into the game so Gary Kubiack had to play. The Bills ended up getting crushed that day by a score like 34 to 7 and the only score came on a 80 yard TD at the end of the game. Oh and by the way my brother inlaw almost got his arm chewed by a guard dog when he reached over the wall to pet it. lol. But we had so much fun at the game that we bought season tickets the following season and it turned out to be the golden age of Buffalo Bills football just a few years later.  We had those tickets threw out the Super Bowl years and beyound so I always try to encourage anyone who wants to go to a game because no matter how bleak things look it could turn into something really great.

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I can't really watch. The entertainment value isn't greater than playing the new red dead redemption. And Bills football is basically 90% of my hobbies. Video games 5%? That means the product I see enjoying at the very least maybe 5 cool plays from my favorite players on both sides of the football isn't meeting the bare minimum threshold if I decide to sit on my *** to do nothing other than watch a TV screen.

 

I'd probably enjoy a home game I guess but I haven't been to many so I can understand diminishing returns when you've been to hundreds of home games with experiences gauranteed to be better than what you folks are about to see on Sunday.

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4 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Give me a compelling argument.

 

I come down 2X's/yr on average and of my group am the only "fan" watching the Bills religiously and on sites like this.

 

Yes it means a 3 hour drive with the border to cross and my friend states it is a tradition.

 

I told him there is no way I am wasting 12 hours on Sunday (3 infront of the TV is plenty) to watch this team.  It is not the losing, it is fielding a product that has been so unwatchable on Offense and absolutely no fun.

 

When was the last fun game they played?  Not talking blowing out Minny (boring as heck after the first 20 minutes) or Arizona or Oakland where the Bills actrually won by double digits.  Maybe the OT loss to Miami Xmas 2016 (and they gave that one away)?

 

I guess if Allen is back this week or after the bye and plays well, but otherwise ss there a reason to pay money and support the Bills as they are right now? 

As a longtime fan (1973) and ticket holder,  I have suffered through many seasons like this.  I used to get seriously upset. I hated going to work pissed off every Monday morning.  As I matured over the years, I look back at all the great times I have enjoyed with family and friends at the games.  Win or lose, I enjoy and look forward to many more.

 

So... If you cherish the time together with your friends,  I would recommend going despite the absolute garbage of an offense this regime marches onto our field each Sunday.

 

Enjoy the game!

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Season ticket holder with a 3-hour commute each way from the Pittsburgh area.  Each gameday is a 14-hour commitment.   I admit that it's becoming a chore, but it's also good bonding time with my son.  And years from now we can look back and take pride in how we pushed through the tough times.  

 

Bill's fans can't claim to be the best and then not be, the best. 

 

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8 hours ago, dneveu said:

I live in buffalo and a couple of my friends are jets fans so that's probably the only other game i'm planning to attend.  Figure make a pot of chili to top my eggs and freeze my ass off.  We both stink too so maybe it'll be a good game?

 

When both my boys turned 16 I took them up to Buffalo for a Bills home game as a rite of passage. I picked a Jets game both times because it’s more fun to win! We split.....

 

 

Slightly beat the odds, there. 

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9 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Give me a compelling argument.

 

I come down 2X's/yr on average and of my group am the only "fan" watching the Bills religiously and on sites like this.

 

Yes it means a 3 hour drive with the border to cross and my friend states it is a tradition.

 

I told him there is no way I am wasting 12 hours on Sunday (3 infront of the TV is plenty) to watch this team.  It is not the losing, it is fielding a product that has been so unwatchable on Offense and absolutely no fun.

 

When was the last fun game they played?  Not talking blowing out Minny (boring as heck after the first 20 minutes) or Arizona or Oakland where the Bills actrually won by double digits.  Maybe the OT loss to Miami Xmas 2016 (and they gave that one away)?

 

I guess if Allen is back this week or after the bye and plays well, but otherwise ss there a reason to pay money and support the Bills as they are right now? 

I'll be that guy.

 

Because someday you or one of your friends will be dead and whoever is left may just regret not having that one extra chance to hang out together. Life is too short to overly obsess about teams records, performances or possible Playoff contention. Go have a good day with some people that can stand to be around you for that long. Have some food. Have some fun. Yell your heads off for at least a quarter. Life's way too short to ask "Why should I".

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9 hours ago, Rigotz said:

It's pretty easy.

 

- being surrounded by people that love the same thing as you.

- dedicating an entire day to the football experience.

- drinking outside and hanging with your friends.

- supporting a team when they're bad so you can wear it as a badge of honor when they're good.

 

You should be able to have a good time at the game no matter how bad the actual team is. I always do.

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11 hours ago, plenzmd1 said:

3-hour drive...thats all??

 

I am driving 8 for the Jacksonville game  reason why

 

1) Get tto hang with family and friends all day..yep you could do that whenever ya want, but you dont. So this is the excuse we all need

2) I get free stromboli @Hammered a Lot ..and @ Mondy nighter even had road kill beaver chile courtesy of our resident hillbilly @CountryCletus Food is always great @ the TBD tailgate. Beef on weck sliders at the Jacksonville game courtesy of @seasons 1992

3)  Get to scream obscenities at Doug Marrone for 3 hours! ( just kidding, but beating him would be glorious)

4) Beer and potty lines will be short

5) get in cheap if you don't already have tickets

6) wings in the lot after if weather decent are the best you have ever had..fried up by, you guessed it..yours truly!!!

 

Well said!

GO!

Travel while you are healthy and don't look back!

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8 hours ago, Art in RTP said:

I flew up from Raleigh for the Monday night game, will be at the Jets game Dec 9th , and The Miami game Dec 30th . Why because its the Bills and I'm rooting for them to step up. I'm 62 so yes I've seen a lot more bad games than good , but you never know till the game is over.

 

No.... It was clear at halftime last week.

 

I told people before the season I'm not going, I knew people going to the titans game and told them no. 

 

I always make it a point to go to night games because I love the atmosphere, and it's nice not getting up at like 7 to get there to drink on a Sunday. I didnt even try this year. More so because I'm done going to games vs the Pats with Brady, I used to make it a point to go to those also. They're not fun to me anymore lol.

 

But it was clear they'd be bad. And I generally don't enjoy going to games as much as I used too. Sleeping in, cooking something or getting pizza and wings watching it on TV is so enjoyable now.

 

I will say though, nothing like making that walk to the gates and getting in just before the game starts. I went to a concert there this year, I was excited, and it was a great show, but it just felt off.

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3 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said:

 

No.... It was clear at halftime last week.

 

I told people before the season I'm not going, I knew people going to the titans game and told them no. 

 

I always make it a point to go to night games because I love the atmosphere, and it's nice not getting up at like 7 to get there to drink on a Sunday. I didnt even try this year. More so because I'm done going to games vs the Pats with Brady, I used to make it a point to go to those. They're not fun to me anymore lol.

 

But it was clear they'd be bad. And I generally don't enjoy going to games as much as I used too. Sleeping in, cooking something or getting pizza and wings watching it on TV is so enjoyable now.

 

I will say though, nothing like making that walk to the gates and getting in just before the game starts. I went to a concert there this year, I was excited, and it was a great show, but it just felt off.

 

BOTH are good options.

 

I love being there, but I don’t know that every week, home and/or away, is the best way to be a fan. But I respect people who make such great efforts! 

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Just now, Augie said:

 

BOTH are good options.

 

I love being there, but I don’t know that every week, home and/or away, is the best way to be a fan. But I respect people who make such great efforts! 

 

Me too. Definitely respect the season ticket holders. It amazes me from how far away some travel for these games. I know they enjoy it for numerous reasons, but I always feel for them when it's a dud. And I'm not talking just this year. I've felt that way for years.

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Tailgate.  The social aspect.  Games on TV have become unwatchable.

 

"We are stardust, we are golden
We are billion year old carbon
And we got to get ourselves back to the garden"

 

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2 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said:

 

Me too. Definitely respect the season ticket holders. It amazes me from how far away some travel for these games. I know they enjoy it for numerous reasons, but I always feel for them when it's a dud. And I'm not talking just this year. I've felt that way for years.

At Tailgate.  I talked to one Guy who flies in from LA for every Home Game.  He was @ MNF.  Was going back in morning and coming back for Bears Game.

 

Not sure if He's on this Board... But that's a shut out to Him!

 

X2 ThumbsUp!

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10 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Tailgate.  The social aspect.  Games on TV have become unwatchable.

 

"We are stardust, we are golden
We are billion year old carbon
And we got to get ourselves back to the garden"

 

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At Tailgate.  I talked to one Guy who flies in from LA for every Home Game.  He was @ MNF.  Was going back in morning and coming back for Bears Game.

 

Not sure if He's on this Board... But that's a shut out to Him!

 

X2 ThumbsUp!

 

That guy must be making bank. That's crazy, but crazy in a great way.

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Just now, ExiledInIllinois said:

Yeah... Not sure.  Or single and "that's what he does."  If you schedule, book early... I guess it can be done reasonable $$$.  I guess all about choices and what you choose to do, enjoy?

 

True, a lot easier now with the direct flights from LAX-Buffalo. If they fly on weekends. Still you're looking at just over 2,500 in airfare, plus season tickets, and maybe hotels? I guess it is just like splitting up a vacation over the course of 8 random weekends. It's more doable than I thought at first, still a lot of credit for all that effort.

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7 hours ago, No Place To Hyde said:

I'll be that guy.

 

Because someday you or one of your friends will be dead and whoever is left may just regret not having that one extra chance to hang out together. Life is too short to overly obsess about teams records, performances or possible Playoff contention. Go have a good day with some people that can stand to be around you for that long. Have some food. Have some fun. Yell your heads off for at least a quarter. Life's way too short to ask "Why should I".

 

Fans  are getting too binary these days with teams, either win it all or it’s all garbage 

 

probably something  to do with this new stats obsession that lets people think they have some hidden knowledge of sports, when they are just wasting their time unless paid to do this

 

i go weeks without meeting a baseball fan and then he ruins it by thinking he’s lord god almighty because he memorized some stat to 4 decimals

 

 

 

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16 hours ago, tbarg12 said:

I'm flying from Dallas to Buffalo for the Dec 9th game against the Jets, mainly because:

 

1. It will be my first game in Buffalo

2. Going for the experience of the atmosphere

3. Hanging with family

4. Watching Josh Allen hopefully 

 

I also live in Dallas and flew to games there.

Let me tell you one thing though, disregard #2. You won't get a good feeling of the atmosphere that far into a Bills season, especially THIS season.

 

The Bills don't have to be good for the fans to support them, but they have to at least be watchable. I went to a game end of November back in 2008, and we weren't half as bad as this team but weren't looking likely to make the playoffs either. We were 6-5 going into that game, and there were plenty of empty seats. Though many of the diehard fans may enjoy the cold, it's clear regular Buffalonians who aren't enamored with it dislike wasting time in the weather to watch a poor team play. My game wasn't even bad, just a tiny bit of mist in the cold, but it was clear fans weren't willing to come out.

To top it off, normally nice Buffalonians are usually beaten down by this team by that point & are much more apathetic, cynical & not as cheery. I almost got in a fight in the stands, and it takes a LOT to piss me off. Thankfully I put the fear of god into that dude and he opted to just bail, but man...complete opposite atmosphere of what every other Bills game I've gone to was like. Key thing there is every other game I've gone to has been in September or October, usually the earlier in the season the better.

Still, the tailgaiting was fun, and I love the city's architecture & less-modern look (compared to Dallas at least). We of course lost to the lowly 49ers, with our reliable kicker somehow missing several field goals, but it was still a decent time. I'm just saying whatever happens, don't judge the atmosphere based off of a late game this season.  Come back pretty much any other time, and you'll see how awesome Bills fan really can be.

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3 hours ago, BigDingus said:

 

I also live in Dallas and flew to games there.

Let me tell you one thing though, disregard #2. You won't get a good feeling of the atmosphere that far into a Bills season, especially THIS season.

 

The Bills don't have to be good for the fans to support them, but they have to at least be watchable. I went to a game end of November back in 2008, and we weren't half as bad as this team but weren't looking likely to make the playoffs either. We were 6-5 going into that game, and there were plenty of empty seats. Though many of the diehard fans may enjoy the cold, it's clear regular Buffalonians who aren't enamored with it dislike wasting time in the weather to watch a poor team play. My game wasn't even bad, just a tiny bit of mist in the cold, but it was clear fans weren't willing to come out.

To top it off, normally nice Buffalonians are usually beaten down by this team by that point & are much more apathetic, cynical & not as cheery. I almost got in a fight in the stands, and it takes a LOT to piss me off. Thankfully I put the fear of god into that dude and he opted to just bail, but man...complete opposite atmosphere of what every other Bills game I've gone to was like. Key thing there is every other game I've gone to has been in September or October, usually the earlier in the season the better.

Still, the tailgaiting was fun, and I love the city's architecture & less-modern look (compared to Dallas at least). We of course lost to the lowly 49ers, with our reliable kicker somehow missing several field goals, but it was still a decent time. I'm just saying whatever happens, don't judge the atmosphere based off of a late game this season.  Come back pretty much any other time, and you'll see how awesome Bills fan really can be.

Yeah I would imagine going to the home opener vs late in the season would be a different atmosphere. I mainly chose the Jets game cause I was hoping it would be more competitive than the other games but we shall see. 

Tailgating should be fun though, and not having to be at Cowboys stadium will be enjoyable lol 

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The feel has been flat at home all season.  The opener is usually pretty buzzing but the heat was already oppressive and then the Chargers ate our lunch and kicked our dog.

 

MNF was probably the tamest primetime crowd I’ve ever experienced.

 

It’s not going to be any better the rest of this season as the record and weather gets worse, however we are always creative with our menu and our tailgate crew always has fun bustin each other’s chops.

 

I’d say if you want the real full experience, early next season is your best bet.

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21 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said:

I'm in my 50's......  I like tailgating, but much rather do it in 70 degree weather then shivering and battling traffic.

 

Oh and would like to see a watchable football game too.....

You’re in your 50’s and you’re asking a message board if it’s ok that you decline going to a live game because you don’t enjoy the experience like you once did? 

 

Sounds like you’re being peer pressured. Put on your man pants and tell your friend no. It’s ok. I still kinda like going, but I’ve declined invites multiple times. I imagine when I’m in my 50’s and the teams not doing so hot I’ll have even less a problem declining. 

 

Tradition with your buds tho, come on man. How many of those do you still have? Sure you want to toss it? Guy hangs are like pto, you don’t use ‘em you lose ‘em! 

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3 minutes ago, Bobby Hooks said:

You’re in your 50’s and you’re asking a message board if it’s ok that you decline going to a live game because you don’t enjoy the experience like you once did? 

 

Sounds like you’re being peer pressured. Put on your man pants and tell your friend no. It’s ok. I still kinda like going, but I’ve declined invites multiple times. I imagine when I’m in my 50’s and the teams not doing so hot I’ll have even less a problem declining. 

 

Tradition with your buds tho, come on man. How many of those do you still have? Sure you want to toss it? Guy hangs are like pto, you don’t use ‘em you lose ‘em! 

 

True about the buds.  Could always have them over to watch the game instead of making the trek to the b'lo.

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25 minutes ago, CodeMonkey said:

 

True about the buds.  Could always have them over to watch the game instead of making the trek to the b'lo.

True, but then you get one guy calling and saying he won’t get there til halftime. Another one saying he has to leave at halftime to pick something up for the wife, two of the guys aren’t eating because they have a big family dinner afterward. 

 

Not to mention they all fly out of the door the moment the game reaches zeroes. 

 

Its never the same as dedicating a full day to stadium. 

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2 hours ago, 4_kidd_4 said:

The feel has been flat at home all season.  The opener is usually pretty buzzing but the heat was already oppressive and then the Chargers ate our lunch and kicked our dog.

 

MNF was probably the tamest primetime crowd I’ve ever experienced.

 

It’s not going to be any better the rest of this season as the record and weather gets worse, however we are always creative with our menu and our tailgate crew always has fun bustin each other’s chops.

 

I’d say if you want the real full experience, early next season is your best bet.

Dude, you need to come to Hammers with you and your crew for the Jags game

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42 minutes ago, 4_kidd_4 said:

 

We park in Doc’s Lot, that’s close enough to that buffoonery for me. No offense.

On one hand you claim MNF was tamest ever, yet then say buffoonery exists.  What is it?

 

Yes... MNF, games in general are tamer than they were 30 years ago... But society has changed.

 

I still beg to differ.  The atmosphere on The MNF game against the Pats** was still more electric than the rest of the League.  You saw the lots right? 

 

And Bills suck! Lost...

 

 

Going to ANY game in Indy is tame.  Sterile.

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1 hour ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

On one hand you claim MNF was tamest ever, yet then say buffoonery exists.  What is it?

 

It can certainly be both.

 

Sure there’s always a party at Hammer’s,  that’s not my scene, but those who partake clearly enjoy it and good for them, I’m not trying to pee on anyone’s parade. 

 

The overall feel that monday night was definitely on the mellow side. The walk into the stadium is usually a pretty good gauge and it was relatively calm for a primetime, division game. It didn’t have that continual raucous din. Crowd was up for kickoff, but when the Pats started to pull away, the building was deflated.

 

And yeah things change over the years, no doubt. The lots are policed better and things are tamped down compared to say MNF in ‘07. 

 

 

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9 hours ago, tbarg12 said:

Yeah I would imagine going to the home opener vs late in the season would be a different atmosphere. I mainly chose the Jets game cause I was hoping it would be more competitive than the other games but we shall see. 

Tailgating should be fun though, and not having to be at Cowboys stadium will be enjoyable lol 

 

Yeah, I'm sure many teams have better atmospheres for openers & early in the season, but even when the Bills are looking like they'll lay another egg for the season, the fans & stadium are usually awesome. Like many have said before, it's far more like a college atmosphere than a pro one, and I'm saying that as a guy who went to Texas Tech with some of the most rowdy fans in the Big XII (side note: why the actual f*** is it still the Big "12?" Ten teams...c'mon guys).

 

But when the weather is bad or just too cold, combined with the offense being dismal to watch, I've noticed the fans in the stands are much less motivated to invest in the game, and are also quite a bit more agitated & irritable. Not nearly as supportive as some may lead you to believe, but I don't blame them either.

I hope your experience is great though! Enjoy, and bring them some good luck ;)

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19 hours ago, Ol Dirty B said:

 

No.... It was clear at halftime last week.

 

I told people before the season I'm not going, I knew people going to the titans game and told them no. 

 

I always make it a point to go to night games because I love the atmosphere, and it's nice not getting up at like 7 to get there to drink on a Sunday. I didnt even try this year. More so because I'm done going to games vs the Pats with Brady, I used to make it a point to go to those also. They're not fun to me anymore lol.

 

But it was clear they'd be bad. And I generally don't enjoy going to games as much as I used too. Sleeping in, cooking something or getting pizza and wings watching it on TV is so enjoyable now.

 

I will say though, nothing like making that walk to the gates and getting in just before the game starts. I went to a concert there this year, I was excited, and it was a great show, but it just felt off.

I went to my first game in a few years last season(Raiders) and there is no re-entry. Awful for a smoker.

 

Is that a relatively new policy? Kind of off topic and yes, smoking is bad for you, but that sucked!

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3 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said:

I went to my first game in a few years last season(Raiders) and there is no re-entry. Awful for a smoker.

 

Is that a relatively new policy? Kind of off topic and yes, smoking is bad for you, but that sucked!

Its always been the policy no re-entry .

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Just now, Art in RTP said:

Its always been the policy no re-entry .

Ok. I hadn't been to a game since 99 and I didn't smoke back then.

 

I just found it odd because I'd been to a number of baseball and basketball games around the country and never had that issue.

 

Appreciate the response as it's a petty issue.

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1 hour ago, LSHMEAB said:

I went to my first game in a few years last season(Raiders) and there is no re-entry. Awful for a smoker.

 

Is that a relatively new policy? Kind of off topic and yes, smoking is bad for you, but that sucked!

 

I think it has been no re-entry for the last decade or so atleast? I've never really had a reason to leave and try to come back so I've never thought of it. I thought they had a designated area for smokers in the stadium. I don't smoke so I don't really pay attention to that, so now that you mention it I'm questioning if I saw that they got rid of those and eliminated smoking in the stadium altogether.

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2 hours ago, LSHMEAB said:

I went to my first game in a few years last season(Raiders) and there is no re-entry. Awful for a smoker.

 

Is that a relatively new policy? Kind of off topic and yes, smoking is bad for you, but that sucked!

 

This is admittedly off topic but kind of funny. Late 90's my friend got 4 seats down low behind home plate at Yankee Stadium. The other 3 went for a smoke and dismissed me when I said they probably couldn't smoke in the stadium. When they were approached by a security dude telling them they couldn't smoke where they were, they asked (flippantly) where they could. Security dude opened a gate and told them they could smoke out there. My brain surgeon friends didn't figure out they'd been ejected until they tried to get back in. 

 

As to OP and why you should go to a home game? Seems simple to me. You've been on a weeks long crusade about how awesome this years offense is so why would you pass up an opportunity to see it in person?

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