A Few Thoughts about the Bears Game, in no particular order

[Virgil]

There are contenders, rebuilders, and dumpster fires.  One is taken for granted, on gives you hope, and the other makes you wonder why you do it anymore.  As I watched the forums since over the past few weeks and moreso after our last blow-out, I can see posters sway between the last two.  I don't have an answer myself personally, but I know it was hard to keep the fire going yesterday.  With that....

 

1 - Peterman - Someone made a comment that I was surprised how I didn't review Anderson the previous weeks.  I knew Anderson was nothing more than a stop-gap who'd had a small handful of practices and isn't part of our future plans.  Peterman not only was part of the plan, but he was actually picked to be our season starter.  Our team felt strongly enough about him to trade McCarron and let him run our team.  As he started the game, I wondered how much his previous performers would affect his overall confidence.  It was a mixed bag result for me.  Peterman looked downfield often, but rarely took the shot.  I think I read that he broke an NFL record for 31 completed passes, but fewest overall yards.  The Bears defense baited him into dump off passes to which they closed on quickly.  But it was the tipped pass int's and fumbles that really showed where Peterman was at.  The frustration, but almost acceptance in realizing that he is just cursed as an NFL starter was all over his face.  I applaud his effort to try and shake off his past, but it was clear to me that his confidence is shattered and his performance all season is a scary indication of how our FO evaluates NFL talent.  For them to think this was their guy worries me the most about their ability to put together a successful offensive roster.

 

2 - Trubisky - As we are comparing our rookie Qb to other's, I found myself watching Trubisky to see if he could be one of the QB's of the future.  I left the game unimpressed.  For every crisp pass he completed, he equally had some passes that I don't think even he knew where they were going.  His pick to Tre was an absolute gift.  I will say that I didn't realize how well he could run because our defense apparently was terrified of him keeping the ball on the QB option keeper.  Overall, I still don't see what the Bears saw in him to give up the capital to move up one spot and I believe his performance this season is a great example of how an offensive coordinator schemes to meet his talent.  I know it's dumb to throw stones in a glass house, but I'll pass on the Trubisky train.

 

3 - Execution - A lot of people are starting to ask why Rex got the Axe in 2 seasons while McDermott seems to be getting a pass.  I'm going to both make my point and then counter it.  For those with a short memory, the team's execution under Rex was terrible.  It wasn't just that we lost, it's that we were heavy on penalties, blowing assignments, and players were leaking their frustrations anonymously to the media.  We haven't seen much of that out of McDermott as penalties and blown assignments seem dramatically better.  However, in this game I saw glimpses of a team that is starting to give up in the face of futility.  The offensive turnovers were rookie mistakes and inexcusable.  I almost feel bad for Peterman, who put together one of his better games (that's not saying much) only to have offensive players make stupid mistakes on the field that led to turnovers.  For our talent level, we need to be fundamentally sound, and we weren't that against the Bears.  The Logan Thomas late hit was a joke and he should have been pulled from the game.

 

4 - If you’re going to try, go all the way. Otherwise don’t even start. This could mean losing girlfriends, wives, relatives, jobs. And maybe your mind. It could mean not eating for three or four days. It could mean freezing on a park bench. It could mean jail. It could mean derision. It could mean mockery, isolation. Isolation is the gift. All the others are a test of your endurance. Of how much you really want to do it. And you’ll do it, despite rejection in the worst odds. And it will be better than anything else you can imagine

 

5 - Read-Option Defense - The Bears game reminded me a lot of the Seahawks game we played in Toronto and we got gashed by Wilson.  The difference here was that the Bears actually let their tailback run it almost every time.  The amount of respect we gave to Trubisky was surprising to me as we gave up solid gains on most of the read options plays.  If I'm an opposing offense, I'm adding that play to our scheme when we play the Bills.  I don't know if it was an off game or a genuine flaw in our system, but it was alarming.

 

6 - Special Teams - I think I'm there on getting rid of Crossman.  I just don't know what to say anymore about it.  But the execution on Punts is mind blowing to me.  Not to be old school, but special teams are meant to be seen and not heard.  The NFL keeps making changes to the point where I'm surprised that aspect of the game isn't completely eliminated.  To that point, we find a way to create a negative gain at least once a game via punts.  I'm just over it.

 

7 - Dawkins - I've been overall impressed with our offensive line performance this season.  It was rough to start, but they aren't the dumpster fire we saw in the pre-season.  Some are complaining about the holes being created for the running backs, but I think they've done enough for the talent we have.  With that being said, Dawkins has made a few eye opening mistakes the past few weeks and I'm wondering if more is going on there.  His leg whip penalty was stupid and he has had more than a few guys absolutely blow past him.  I'm wondering if it's an injury or something more, but he usually isn't mentioned much in a game, meaning he did his job.

 

8 - Evaluating Talent - While McDermott won't come out and say it, we saw a lot of starters coming out of the game yesterday without injury.  It looks as though the 2-7 record is setting in and we are in player evaluation mode. Teller took some snaps, McCoy was out of the game a lot.  McDermott even said they wanted to see what some guys can do.  While I don't disagree entirely, the message to fans debating buying tickets for the rest of the season might be affected.  I also wonder what message that sends to the players who are looking for reasons to play their heart out. 

 

9 - Another Blow-Out - There's a bunch of stats out there about number of games lost by 15+ points.  It's a scary number for a team who's calling card is their passion and commitment to the process.  Even in making the playoffs last year, there were at least 3 solid blow-out losses.  This is an NFL team with multi-million dollar professionals.  Even the worst teams are made up of elite College players.  Teams have bad days, but has anyone suffered this many blow out losses in a 2 year span?  Even when we were 3-13, I don't think it was this bad.  There's something to that and the fact that it doesn't seem to be noticed by the Front Office is an issue.  I don't believe in sacrificing someone to appease the masses, but there's more going on here than a simple rebuild and it's in a historic fashion.

 

10 - Daboll - 10 carries.  McCoy, the man our offense is supposed to revolve around got 10 carries.  He was quiet after the game and seen despondent on the sideline.  To me, this sums up our offense.  When we can't figure out how to get our best offensive weapon more than 10 carries in a game, we are doing something wrong.  Who on our team is more deserving to make something happen.  Then, you have Zay Jones off the field for Pryor.  How has our most productive, young WR lost snaps to the guy who's been cut by half the league recently and made crucial mistakes?  I'm sorry, but sometimes it's that simple.  The guy doesn't know how to utilize our players.

 

 

On to next week where the board will come crashing down if Darnold lights us up. 

 

Go Bills!

[26CornerBlitz]

Good work, but there's a glaring omission in paragraph #1 which is the lack of mention of Peterman eschewing the Hail Mary throw into the end zone from the Bears 37 yards line only to run downfield and eventually out of bounds to end the 1st half.   

[Virgil]

2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

Good work, but there's a glaring omission in paragraph #1 which is the lack of mention of Peterman eschewing the Hail Mary throw into the end zone from the Bears 37 yards line only to run downfield and eventually out of bounds to end the 1st half.   

 

You’re absolutely right.  What’s sad is that it didn’t even phase me. He was that gun shy with the deep ball that he couldn’t even do it when it was expected.   He’s just plain broken 

[Reed83HOF]

9 minutes ago, Virgil said:

There are contenders, rebuilders, and dumpster fires.  One is taken for granted, on gives you hope, and the other makes you wonder why you do it anymore.  As I watched the forums since over the past few weeks and moreso after our last blow-out, I can see posters sway between the last two.  I don't have an answer myself personally, but I know it was hard to keep the fire going yesterday.  With that....

 

1 - Peterman - Someone made a comment that I was surprised how I didn't review Anderson the previous weeks.  I knew Anderson was nothing more than a stop-gap who'd had a small handful of practices and isn't part of our future plans.  Peterman not only was part of the plan, but he was actually picked to be our season starter.  Our team felt strongly enough about him to trade McCarron and let him run our team.  As he started the game, I wondered how much his previous performers would affect his overall confidence.  It was a mixed bag result for me.  Peterman looked downfield often, but rarely took the shot.  I think I read that he broke an NFL record for 31 completed passes, but fewest overall yards.  The Bears defense baited him into dump off passes to which they closed on quickly.  But it was the tipped pass int's and fumbles that really showed where Peterman was at.  The frustration, but almost acceptance in realizing that he is just cursed as an NFL starter was all over his face.  I applaud his effort to try and shake off his past, but it was clear to me that his confidence is shattered and his performance all season is a scary indication of how our FO evaluates NFL talent.  For them to think this was their guy worries me the most about their ability to put together a successful offensive roster.

 

2 - Trubisky - As we are comparing our rookie Qb to other's, I found myself watching Trubisky to see if he could be one of the QB's of the future.  I left the game unimpressed.  For every crisp pass he completed, he equally had some passes that I don't think even he knew where they were going.  His pick to Tre was an absolute gift.  I will say that I didn't realize how well he could run because our defense apparently was terrified of him keeping the ball on the QB option keeper.  Overall, I still don't see what the Bears saw in him to give up the capital to move up one spot and I believe his performance this season is a great example of how an offensive coordinator schemes to meet his talent.  I know it's dumb to throw stones in a glass house, but I'll pass on the Trubisky train.

 

3 - Execution - A lot of people are starting to ask why Rex got the Axe in 2 seasons while McDermott seems to be getting a pass.  I'm going to both make my point and then counter it.  For those with a short memory, the team's execution under Rex was terrible.  It wasn't just that we lost, it's that we were heavy on penalties, blowing assignments, and players were leaking their frustrations anonymously to the media.  We haven't seen much of that out of McDermott as penalties and blown assignments seem dramatically better.  However, in this game I saw glimpses of a team that is starting to give up in the face of futility.  The offensive turnovers were rookie mistakes and inexcusable.  I almost feel bad for Peterman, who put together one of his better games (that's not saying much) only to have offensive players make stupid mistakes on the field that led to turnovers.  For our talent level, we need to be fundamentally sound, and we weren't that against the Bears.  The Logan Thomas late hit was a joke and he should have been pulled from the game.

 

4 - If you’re going to try, go all the way. Otherwise don’t even start. This could mean losing girlfriends, wives, relatives, jobs. And maybe your mind. It could mean not eating for three or four days. It could mean freezing on a park bench. It could mean jail. It could mean derision. It could mean mockery, isolation. Isolation is the gift. All the others are a test of your endurance. Of how much you really want to do it. And you’ll do it, despite rejection in the worst odds. And it will be better than anything else you can imagine

 

5 - Read-Option Defense - The Bears game reminded me a lot of the Seahawks game we played in Toronto and we got gashed by Wilson.  The difference here was that the Bears actually let their tailback run it almost every time.  The amount of respect we gave to Trubisky was surprising to me as we gave up solid gains on most of the read options plays.  If I'm an opposing offense, I'm adding that play to our scheme when we play the Bills.  I don't know if it was an off game or a genuine flaw in our system, but it was alarming.

 

6 - Special Teams - I think I'm there on getting rid of Crossman.  I just don't know what to say anymore about it.  But the execution on Punts is mind blowing to me.  Not to be old school, but special teams are meant to be seen and not heard.  The NFL keeps making changes to the point where I'm surprised that aspect of the game isn't completely eliminated.  To that point, we find a way to create a negative gain at least once a game via punts.  I'm just over it.

 

7 - Dawkins - I've been overall impressed with our offensive line performance this season.  It was rough to start, but they aren't the dumpster fire we saw in the pre-season.  Some are complaining about the holes being created for the running backs, but I think they've done enough for the talent we have.  With that being said, Dawkins has made a few eye opening mistakes the past few weeks and I'm wondering if more is going on there.  His leg whip penalty was stupid and he has had more than a few guys absolutely blow past him.  I'm wondering if it's an injury or something more, but he usually isn't mentioned much in a game, meaning he did his job.

 

8 - Evaluating Talent - While McDermott won't come out and say it, we saw a lot of starters coming out of the game yesterday without injury.  It looks as though the 2-7 record is setting in and we are in player evaluation mode. Teller took some snaps, McCoy was out of the game a lot.  McDermott even said they wanted to see what some guys can do.  While I don't disagree entirely, the message to fans debating buying tickets for the rest of the season might be affected.  I also wonder what message that sends to the players who are looking for reasons to play their heart out. 

 

9 - Another Blow-Out - There's a bunch of stats out there about number of games lost by 15+ points.  It's a scary number for a team who's calling card is their passion and commitment to the process.  Even in making the playoffs last year, there were at least 3 solid blow-out losses.  This is an NFL team with multi-million dollar professionals.  Even the worst teams are made up of elite College players.  Teams have bad days, but has anyone suffered this many blow out losses in a 2 year span?  Even when we were 3-13, I don't think it was this bad.  There's something to that and the fact that it doesn't seem to be noticed by the Front Office is an issue.  I don't believe in sacrificing someone to appease the masses, but there's more going on here than a simple rebuild and it's in a historic fashion.

 

10 - Daboll - 10 carries.  McCoy, the man our offense is supposed to revolve around got 10 carries.  He was quiet after the game and seen despondent on the sideline.  To me, this sums up our offense.  When we can't figure out how to get our best offensive weapon more than 10 carries in a game, we are doing something wrong.  Who on our team is more deserving to make something happen.  Then, you have Zay Jones off the field for Pryor.  How has our most productive, young WR lost snaps to the guy who's been cut by half the league recently and made crucial mistakes?  I'm sorry, but sometimes it's that simple.  The guy doesn't know how to utilize our players.

 

 

On to next week where the board will come crashing down if Darnold lights us up. 

 

Go Bills!

 

 

Overall I can't disagree with much of anything. I have a hard time fully evaluating Dawkins when he is playing next to Ducasse, who is playing next to Groy/Bodine, who is next to Miller, who is next to Mills. 

 

[zow2]

Right about now, Chad "gonna spray this place with my AK" Kelly... is looking like a pretty good option.  

[Formerly Allan in MD]

15 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

Good work, but there's a glaring omission in paragraph #1 which is the lack of mention of Peterman eschewing the Hail Mary throw into the end zone from the Bears 37 yards line only to run downfield and eventually out of bounds to end the 1st half.   

Agreed.  He probably didn't want another interception.

[Virgil]

Just now, Formerly Allan in MD said:

Agreed.  He probably didn't want another interception.

 

I actually completely agree. 

[26CornerBlitz]

Just now, Formerly Allan in MD said:

Agreed.  He probably didn't want another interception.

 

Then he shouldn't be on the field because there was nothing to lose on that play at the end of the half.  It was cowardly and dumb. 

[Roundybout]

18 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

Good work, but there's a glaring omission in paragraph #1 which is the lack of mention of Peterman eschewing the Hail Mary throw into the end zone from the Bears 37 yards line only to run downfield and eventually out of bounds to end the 1st half.   

 

I believe that Allen doesn't hesitate to throw that. 

[nedboy7]

https://www.fieldgulls.com/2018/6/1/17415246/what-is-an-nfl-rebuild-anyway-seahawks-browns-cardinals-astros

[Formerly Allan in MD]

For the first time, McD looked dejected during the game.  And he wasn't clapping.

[dorquemada]

25 minutes ago, Virgil said:

 

3 - Execution - A lot of people are starting to ask why Rex got the Axe in 2 seasons while McDermott seems to be getting a pass.  I'm going to both make my point and then counter it.  For those with a short memory, the team's execution under Rex was terrible.  It wasn't just that we lost, it's that we were heavy on penalties, blowing assignments, and players were leaking their frustrations anonymously to the media.  We haven't seen much of that out of McDermott as penalties and blown assignments seem dramatically better.  However, in this game I saw glimpses of a team that is starting to give up in the face of futility.  The offensive turnovers were rookie mistakes and inexcusable.  I almost feel bad for Peterman, who put together one of his better games (that's not saying much) only to have offensive players make stupid mistakes on the field that led to turnovers.  For our talent level, we need to be fundamentally sound, and we weren't that against the Bears.  The Logan Thomas late hit was a joke and he should have been pulled from the game.

 

 

I always enjoy reading your post mortem game analysis, but have to quibble with you here.  This team has been sloppy as hell all season.  The drive killing penalties are more reliable than completed forward passes at this point, all of which is 100% on coaching.  Obviously The Clapping Idiot has not made discipline a priority, and I think now it's safe to assume that discipline isn't part of the "culture" he's trying to build at one bills drive, otherwise we'd see  players getting benched for their junior league antics, but instead we get a big dumb idiot clapping on the sidelines when instead of a 1st down, we get 3rd and 20

[Fadingpain]

11 minutes ago, zow2 said:

Right about now, Chad "gonna spray this place with my AK" Kelly... is looking like a pretty good option.  

Not really. And I think every QB on this roster, including Allen, is terrible.

 

 

[Virgil]

3 minutes ago, dorquemada said:

 

I always enjoy reading your post mortem game analysis, but have to quibble with you here.  This team has been sloppy as hell all season.  The drive killing penalties are more reliable than completed forward passes at this point, all of which is 100% on coaching.  Obviously The Clapping Idiot has not made discipline a priority, and I think now it's safe to assume that discipline isn't part of the "culture" he's trying to build at one bills drive, otherwise we'd see  players getting benched for their junior league antics, but instead we get a big dumb idiot clapping on the sidelines when instead of a 1st down, we get 3rd and 20

 

Maybe I’m wrong, but I think we typically have less penalties than our opponent.  Our offense finds a way to get negative yards on first down too often, but I equally can’t stash’s Daboll. 

 

Either way, it was way worse under Rex.  

 

But hey, I’m wrong a lot 

[dorquemada]

1 minute ago, Virgil said:

 

Maybe I’m wrong, but I think we typically have less penalties than our opponent.  Our offense finds a way to get negative yards on first down too often, but I equally can’t stash’s Daboll. 

 

Either way, it was way worse under Rex.  

 

But hey, I’m wrong a lot 

 

we're 3rd worst in the league for penalties, so i'm not sure the math works on that, but yeah, it's not as bad as under rex, in the same analogized fashion that technically hitler killed fewer people than stalin

 

[Virgil]

2 minutes ago, dorquemada said:

 

we're 3rd worst in the league for penalties, so i'm not sure the math works on that, but yeah, it's not as bad as under rex, in the same analogized fashion that technically hitler killed fewer people than stalin

 

 

3rd worst?  Is that real?  Wow. I had no idea.  That’s honestly as scary to me as our offensive performance.  

 

Seriously.  That’s on McDermott and not very process 

 

edit - yup. That’s true. We went from being in the top 10 last year to bottom 3.  That’s alarming 

Edited November 5, 2018 by Virgil

[dorquemada]

2 minutes ago, Virgil said:

 

3rd worst?  Is that real?  Wow. I had no idea.  That’s honestly as scary to me as our offensive performance.  

 

Seriously.  That’s on McDermott and not very process 

 

https://www.footballdb.com/stats/penalties.html

 

yeah, another site that I just closed the tab for showed trending too, which the Bills, if they keep up the last 3 games performance, will be league leading in penalties in another game or two.  The net is, they're undisciplined, and getting more undisciplined as the season goes on, which again, is indicative of coaching, and/or a team that has given up.

 

Let me blow your mind here for a moment, what if the process, is in fact fundamentally flawed, and if followed close to plan, actually makes the Bills worse?

 

 

[mjd1001]

I think McCoy is done being an Elite back. Right now (and next year also) he is a 'decent' back that can excel in certain situations.  Put him on a good offense that spreads the field, and he will be better than most.  But on this Bills offense, he might be a little worse running than other options.  

 

I'm not saying he has 'lost it', but he has lost a half step it appears.  When that happens with a back like him...the first thing you notice is he LOOKS like he is running the same way (his style) but the results fall off a bit.

[Shaw66]

41 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

Good work, but there's a glaring omission in paragraph #1 which is the lack of mention of Peterman eschewing the Hail Mary throw into the end zone from the Bears 37 yards line only to run downfield and eventually out of bounds to end the 1st half.   

You know, a top running QB, a Taylor or Wilson, might actually have scored on that play. 

 

However, you're right.  Talk about do your job!   Peterman has the most clearly confined job on that play - get out of the pocket, load it up and fire the ball downfield.   That's option 1, 2 and 3 on that play, and there was NOTHING to stop him from throwing it.   That is simply not doing the job - one more evidence of coaching failure.  

[corta765]

1 - Peterman - I am not as mad that they named him starter. Anyone watching preseason would say it looked like he improved and deserved at least to be on the roster. The issue is that he is still on the roster. It is incredibly unnerving they won't cut him and admit they messed up something they should've happened after Baltimore.

 

2 - Trubisky - Agreed. He isn't the trainwreck he was last year, but I see a very average guy long term who might do slightly better thanks to his good coaching and scheme.

 

3 - Execution - The Rex stuff is exhausting. The 2015 team was the most talent Buffalo had since 1999 and they went 8-8. Rex was said to have relished the spotlight but not the true X's and O's studying and video needed in todays NFL. The defense is certainly better and the offense just lacks talent straight up. I will wait one more year before I really make a true judgement. But I will say the goodvibes of last year are gone 2019 is a majorrrr prove it year in every sense for McD.

 

4 -OK

 

5 - Read-Option Defense - Not as worried here they didn't even gain 200 yards total, Edmunds was out, and in general everyone is RPOing now it will take time for defenses to find a solution to copy cat.

 

6 - Special Teams - Agreed. Crossman's special teams have generally been bad during his time here minus one good season. They are just bleeding bad plays when they have zero room to.

 

7 - Dawkins - I think for Dawkins he went from an incredibly solid group with strong veteran leadership to a bunch of scrubs that are actually playing above skill set given what I have seen. I think its just a matter of learning how to play with less talent. Still high on him long term.

 

8 - Evaluating Talent - I'm fine if they are in talent judge mode. I don't worry about effort because it is soo easy to lose your job in the NFL and be replaced. Regardless of record guys know they need to be at their best. 

 

9 - Another Blow-Out - There are two streets you can take here. 1. They knew they'd be bad this year and the talent would expose them so this is what it is. That's the hopeful path but it cannot ignore how bad they've been in blowouts. 2. This team really has some true flaws being exposed when luck, an easier schedule, and better talent isn't there to help. I think its a mix of both truthfully, but as someone there yesterday I am at the point of asking why even go. I love the tailgate, energy, atmosphere, etc.. its amazing..BUT why spend $80 to see us routinely curb stopped when I could stay at home and do the same.

 

10 - Daboll - 10 carries.  McCoy had 7 carries and it was 21-0 before the end of the second half. At that point you can't run when your down that much and the defense is going to stack the box because they don't fear McCoy. I have had no issues with Daboll because he has no talent and his rookie QB is out. I've actually liked his scheming and this season I really can't judge much on Allen or Daboll given the lack of parts for either to work with.

[yungmack]

Great work, Virgil. Between you and Shaw, this is better analysis than any of the local media does. And also like Shaw and the rockpile report, you're both reaching into the gloom. All I can say is, you nailed it.

[26CornerBlitz]

Just now, Shaw66 said:

You know, a top running QB, a Taylor or Wilson, might actually have scored on that play. 

 

However, you're right.  Talk about do your job!   Peterman has the most clearly confined job on that play - get out of the pocket, load it up and fire the ball downfield.   That's option 1, 2 and 3 on that play, and there was NOTHING to stop him from throwing it.   That is simply not doing the job - one more evidence of coaching failure.  

 

Coaching?  No way. That's 100% on him as the QB.  It was his 2nd chance at a Hail Mary after being sacked the 1st time with a reprieve due to a Bears 15 yard penalty.  Inexcusable to have that little situational awareness. 

[BuffaloBillyG]

10 carries.

 

Don't know if it's the offense, lack of players around him, ribs haven't healed, age, off field distraction or a combination of all...but those 10 carries combined with his performance Monday night lead me to believe that McCoy just isn't "Shady" anymore. If he truly is a huge part of the plan for 2019 and he doesn't rebound this iffense is in trouble next year as well.

[mjd1001]

1 minute ago, No Place To Hyde said:

10 carries.

 

Don't know if it's the offense, lack of players around him, ribs haven't healed, age, off field distraction or a combination of all...but those 10 carries combined with his performance Monday night lead me to believe that McCoy just isn't "Shady" anymore. If he truly is a huge part of the plan for 2019 and he doesn't rebound this iffense is in trouble next year as well.

If he is going to be around...I hope it is not as the feature back.  I DO think he is still a very good back, but he is starting to get to the point where he will soon be better as a 'change of pace back' rather than a 'feature back'.

[Soda Popinski]

I have been less and less impressed with Dawkins since he started last year.   He gets bull rushed way too easily and then he gets beat with speed just as easily.    I hope we draft a LT and move him inside.   He doesn't have the speed or power to anchor against really good pass rushers.   The Bears #99 worked him all game long.   and we get no push in the run game.   

 

I think our Oline is awful, and i haven't seen anything to change my mind since week 1.  

[OrtonHearsaWho]

1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

Good work, but there's a glaring omission in paragraph #1 which is the lack of mention of Peterman eschewing the Hail Mary throw into the end zone from the Bears 37 yards line only to run downfield and eventually out of bounds to end the 1st half.   

 

I think he must have been concerned with ball security...

36 minutes ago, Virgil said:

 

3rd worst?  Is that real?  Wow. I had no idea.  That’s honestly as scary to me as our offensive performance.  

 

Seriously.  That’s on McDermott and not very process 

 

edit - yup. That’s true. We went from being in the top 10 last year to bottom 3.  That’s alarming 

 

Even worse, and (to me) a sign of bad coaching is the number of pre-snap penalties.  If I see one more play negated by a freaking illegal formation I'm going to throw something.

[NewEra]

Well said.

 

1- Peterman is one of two things that has me worried about McBeane.  Another QB should’ve been added the second they traded Aj. It’s their biggest mistake this year imo. We

didnt have enough money to fix the offense so I don’t really blame them for not fixing it.

 

the other thing that worries me is his choice in coaches.  Castillo being my #1 hatred.  He needs to be fired before next season.  Daboll, wow was I wrong about him.  Or maybe he sucks because Castillo and the OL sucks and our WRs can’t get open?  That hurts him, but the playcalls have been brutal minus the Vikings game imo.  

[billsfan_34]

1 hour ago, zow2 said:

Right about now, Chad "gonna spray this place with my AK" Kelly... is looking like a pretty good option.  

Bring him in! May as well have some drama as well

[vorpma]

Good post, always a good read!

30 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Well said.

 

1- Peterman is one of two things that has me worried about McBeane.  Another QB should’ve been added the second they traded Aj. It’s their biggest mistake this year imo. We

didnt have enough money to fix the offense so I don’t really blame them for not fixing it.

 

the other thing that worries me is his choice in coaches.  Castillo being my #1 hatred.  He needs to be fired before next season.  Daboll, wow was I wrong about him.  Or maybe he sucks because Castillo and the OL sucks and our WRs can’t get open?  That hurts him, but the playcalls have been brutal minus the Vikings game imo.  

Kind of concerned about Daboll, I expected greater things!

[Virgil]

10 minutes ago, vorpma said:

Good post, always a good read!

Kind of concerned about Daboll, I expected greater things!

 

Not being a dick, but why?  I never understood why people thought he was a good hire.  Has he ever been successful as an offensive coordinator?  

[PatsFanNH]

1 hour ago, BillsEnthusiast said:

 

I believe that Allen doesn't hesitate to throw that. 

Allen also isn’t getting mocked in the media for having more INT in 95 throws than Rogers in 600 snaps. He also isn’t being called “the worst QB in NFL history” or “has no business being on an NFL Roster”. Those effect anyone and well he is trying to improve by not making the mistake.  The sad fact is now who cares chuck the ball around see if you can make a play or draw a PI. 

[Roundybout]

6 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

Allen also isn’t getting mocked in the media for having more INT in 95 throws than Rogers in 600 snaps. He also isn’t being called “the worst QB in NFL history” or “has no business being on an NFL Roster”. Those effect anyone and well he is trying to improve by not making the mistake.  The sad fact is now who cares chuck the ball around see if you can make a play or draw a PI. 

 

I completely agree. I was yelling at my TV to chuck it. Hell, he did it later when KB dropped it! 

[Maine-iac]

There is one point I've been looking and thinking about a lot.  Not that I don't think Shady should get his touches but I wouldn't mind seeing them come out with Ivory.  Let Ivory fall forward a few times.  Let Ivory have more of the 3/4 yards and a cloud of dust carries and let Shady work passing downs and change of pace.  All the things Kamara, White, and Cohen are doing in the passing game Shady could probably do and would get him touches.  No disrespect to McCoy but he's reminding me of the "bad" Spiller years.

[ctk232]

On 11/5/2018 at 1:01 PM, dorquemada said:

 

https://www.footballdb.com/stats/penalties.html

 

yeah, another site that I just closed the tab for showed trending too, which the Bills, if they keep up the last 3 games performance, will be league leading in penalties in another game or two.  The net is, they're undisciplined, and getting more undisciplined as the season goes on, which again, is indicative of coaching, and/or a team that has given up.

 

Let me blow your mind here for a moment, what if the process, is in fact fundamentally flawed, and if followed close to plan, actually makes the Bills worse?

 

 

http://www.nflpenalties.com/team/buffalo-bills?year=2018&view=games

 

^This is probably a slightly better for game by game breakdown, plus separating out defensive v offensive penalties - McD responsible for both, but our offense seems to be more the culprit here. Surprise surprise.

[NoHuddleKelly12]

On 11/5/2018 at 3:56 PM, Virgil said:

 

3rd worst?  Is that real?  Wow. I had no idea.  That’s honestly as scary to me as our offensive performance.  

 

Seriously.  That’s on McDermott and not very process 

 

edit - yup. That’s true. We went from being in the top 10 last year to bottom 3.  That’s alarming 

Murph had the point yesterday that a lot of good teams still can suffer from excessive penalties, but it goes unnoticed with the ability to overcome same. When we start talking about penalties, it’s usually because we are trying to figure out what’s part of an overall failing phase of the game. If I remember right, he was saying KC is most penalized team this year so far but it’s not an issue anyone talks about because obviously playing lights out on O otherwise.