Finally the end for peterman???

[Jerome007]

Come on now. He deserved to be cut for his other performances, but not after today. Was he good? Nope. But he did look like a lot of 3rd stringers in this league. And he was accurate And besides a few flashes by Allen, no QB has looked good on the team this year! None. Maybe it's the team and not all on them? WRs and OLine, suspect playcalling - though last 2 games can we really blame Daboll? Man this team needs new players on offense next year! Shady was tackled in the back field all day long. But why not throw to him again? Run from swing passes instead of it in the middle? Why not see 2 back sets and unique sets like last week? So I guess I just had a turnaround moment on Daboll!

 

 

 

[Formerly Allan in MD]

34 minutes ago, Agent 91 said:

Out of all the games we could talk about Peterman... why today? What did he do so bad today! How about we talk about Benjamin or that loser o line instead 

Totally agree.  Peterman was much better than many other parts of the package today, including the special teams.  No quarterback around would function very well behind our very offensive line.  It remains the death of any hope for this team. 

[Kelly the Dog]

1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I’d like to see more from Nate. He’s a young player. QBs take time to develop. He looks to me to be a starter in this league. I’m finally buying in on all of that I’ve seen here.

Agreed. There is room to grow. Sure he throws four yard passes OB on third and seven, but In two years I bet those four yard passes on third and seven become six yard passes on third and seven. 

[Hebert19]

17 minutes ago, quinnearlysghost88 said:

What did he do so bad? 3 INTs 0 TDs and a 45 passer rating. This is the bar we’ve set now. What’d he do so bad!? Derrrrrrrrr

This.  I dont care if he threw for 3 tds today.  He's the worst QB I've ever seen in 30 years of watching the nfl.  He should be cut. 

[HappyDays]

12 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said:

The coverage was completely tight all game and there was no running game because they knew he couldn't beat them more than ten yards down the field.

 

In games where Josh Allen was the starter our rushers (not including Allen) average 3.4 YPA. That would be tied for worst in the league this year. The run game has been terrible all year long. Admittedly it was even worse today at 2.6 YPA (not including Peterman) but there are other problems there.

Edited November 4, 2018 by HappyDays

[DRA3196]

Benjamin and the o-line should be the lead topic after this loss. Peterman wasn't the reason our offense stunk today. Shady rushing for 10yds, receivers not holding onto the ball were our problems today. Our special teams giving the Bears short field. Why blame Daboll for this mess? you don't blame a mechanic when a car doesn't run. Daboll doesn't have the tools to operate a pro offense. McBeane owned this cluster in an interview in The Buffalo News earlier this week. I compare this team to the Bears of last year. Until JA comes back there isn't a reason to watch this team

[dave mcbride]

30 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said:

He's not, but it's incredible to me that he even has to answer that question seriously. 

It's not even close actually. Half the field is completely unavailable to Peterman. He would have to be twice as good as Anderson in the short game just to be Anderson's equal, and Anderson stinks. 

I will say that watching the NO receivers repeatedly win HARD contested catches, it can’t be argued that this WR corps doesn’t let all of the qbs down.

Edited November 4, 2018 by dave mcbride

[suorangefan4]

5 minutes ago, billsfan1960 said:

What about the great rushing attack with Shady??? The offensive line needs more improvement than Peterman plus the receiver can't catch a pass or get separation. Why blame the Qb while the rest of the offense is bad. Everyone is looking for a Brady as a QB.He couldn't work with this O-line or receivers.

 

 

Bears defense is really good but man how is it we couldn't win at the point of attack on a single run today? Pass blocking was horrendous too. We really need to fix the O-line. 

Edited November 4, 2018 by suorangefan4

[Kelly the Dog]

 

Just now, dave mcbride said:

I will say that watching the NO receivers repeatedly win HARD contested catches, it can’t be argued that this WR corps lets all of the qbs down.

No question. They are godawful. That is the coaches and Beane's fault. But that doesn't mean NP doesn't suck. 

[drf1835]

14 minutes ago, jr1 said:

 

Hannity only wishes. Fake news!

[Formerly Allan in MD]

2 minutes ago, Hebert19 said:

This.  I dont care if he threw for 3 tds today.  He's the worst QB I've ever seen in 30 years of watching the nfl.  He should be cut. 

You obviously missed out on Losman.

[dave mcbride]

Just now, Kelly the Dog said:

 

No question. They are godawful. That is the coaches and Beane's fault. But that doesn't mean NP doesn't suck. 

Oh, absolutely. I will add (as I did earlier) that while his talents are meager, he is pretty good at escapabilty in the pocket.

[Don Beebe]

47 minutes ago, Hebert19 said:

Anderson will be back.  Allen close to throwing and we signed another QB this week.  Does he get cut monday finally?

No he played a decent game today the wide receivers and offensive line let him down. Those interceptions in this game weren't his fault.

[Straight Hucklebuck]

48 minutes ago, Hebert19 said:

Anderson will be back.  Allen close to throwing and we signed another QB this week.  Does he get cut monday finally?

No, McDermott said he’s a QB you can win with in the NFL after today’s game. So no. Peterman is not going anywhere. 

[Formerly Allan in MD]

4 minutes ago, DRA3196 said:

Benjamin and the o-line should be the lead topic after this loss. Peterman wasn't the reason our offense stunk today. Shady rushing for 10yds, receivers not holding onto the ball were our problems today. Our special teams giving the Bears short field. Why blame Daboll for this mess? you don't blame a mechanic when a car doesn't run. Daboll doesn't have the tools to operate a pro offense. McBeane owned this cluster in an interview in The Buffalo News earlier this week. I compare this team to the Bears of last year. Until JA comes back there isn't a reason to watch this team

There is a reason to watch this team.  Forget about football and treat it as a comedy show.

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

Peterman doesn’t even pretend to look past the first down marker. Every pass is 4 yds sideways to the flats. There is no point in him ever taking another snap for this team. Anderson and Barkley are both here until Allen is back. Please just end our suffering with Nate. If McDermott simply can’t exist without his boy Nate, put him on the practice squad.

[DocLawless]

40 minutes ago, K-9 said:

I didn’t say Anderson didn’t suck. I said he just doesn’t suck as much as Peterman. Hope that clears it up for ya.

Just because your opinion is clear doesn't mean it's correct. Anderson was Peterman 10 years ago. Now he's old and fragile and just as bad. 

Edited November 4, 2018 by DocLawless

[Hebert19]

5 minutes ago, Formerly Allan in MD said:

You obviously missed out on Losman.

Oh I saw him.   Losman was terrible but he also had a good arm and speed.  So some redeeming qualities.   Peterman has a noodle arm no vision no ability to read a defense and in no way should he be on the league. 

5 minutes ago, Formerly Allan in MD said:

You obviously missed out on Losman.

Oh I saw him.   Losman was terrible but he also had a good arm and speed.  So some redeeming qualities.   Peterman has a noodle arm no vision no ability to read a defense and in no way should he be on the league. 

[K-9]

1 minute ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

No, McDermott said he’s a QB you can win with in the NFL after today’s game. So no. Peterman is not going anywhere. 

McD was asked directly, at his post game press conference, if Peterman was an NFL QB. Should McD have chosen that time and place to say Peterman was NOT an NFL QB? Really? But then why stop there? The reporters should also ask if Benjamin is an NFL receiver or is Bodine an NFL center, and so on.

 

It’s absurd and naive for the media to think that a head coach is gonna throw players directly under the bus in that fashion.

2 minutes ago, DocLawless said:

Just because your opinion is clear doesn't mean it's correct. Anderson was Peterman 10 years ago. Now he's old and fragile and just as bad. 

Let’s see if Peterman is where Anderson is 10 years from now and then maybe my opinion will change. 

 

But opinions being correct or not? Around here? Yeah, ok. 

[Nuncha]

49 minutes ago, Mrbojanglezs said:

Am I the only one who doesn't want to see Anderson play anymore. 

I don't wan to see this offense play period.  It doesn't matter who is under center.

[HappyDays]

35 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said:

Benjamin is terrible but that endzone pass was not really a drop, very very few in the league make that catch. The DB got his hand right into the ball before he could pull it in. It was a good defensive play. Very good pass into triple coverage but it wasn't really a drop

 

In a vacuum that was not a bad drop. The problem is that it is ALWAYS a drop. I literally cannot remember a single tough catch that a Bills receiver has made in tight coverage this year. Not one. I remember two diving catches where the receiver had separation, including one today and one from Robert Foster a few weeks ago. I can easily think of five or more easy catches that were instead drops from this season. But I can't remember one tough contested catch. And an offense needs that threat. You cannot expect any QB, let alone a backup, to make pinpoint perfect throws 100% of the time. Sometimes the playmakers need to... make plays. Today our playmakers had more negative plays than positive. How can you blame Peterman for that? How can any QB be expected to succeed in this mess?

Edited November 4, 2018 by HappyDays

[PayDaBill$]

There’s far worse players on this squad than Peterman. I know, scary! 

 

Id start with a few others.

[quinnearlysghost88]

41 minutes ago, Woodman19 said:

2 receiver deflections for Ints and a dropped TD by Benjamin would drastically have changed things.

Drastically?! Drastically? Did you see the same game? It would not have changed anything. 

[PayDaBill$]

Don’t now how many times I need to say this but there isn’t a qb breathing that would look good playing with this roster!

Edited November 4, 2018 by PayDaBill$

[HappyDays]

1 minute ago, quinnearlysghost88 said:

Drastically?! Drastically? Did you see the same game? It would not have changed anything. 

 

Two defensive scores in the 2nd quarter, you don't think that changed the flow of the game?

[Augie]

1 hour ago, billspro said:

If he’s not then the two guys running the organization should be fired on Monday.

 

I would like everyone who types “fired” to be fired. JMO

 

Grow up and have real, productive ideas. 

[quinnearlysghost88]

35 minutes ago, Agent 91 said:

You are biased as well then. Because he was NOT a tire fire. The WHOLE offense was a tire fire. Do you believe in the process as well? The point of the post is to ask WHY ARE WE ZEROING IN ON HIM!!!! For everyone who wants to beat a dead horse go ahead. News flash... we have 4 not good QBs. So we are just going to just give the rest of the team, including the coaching staff, a pass... 

It’s the contingency of Bills fans that are defending a bad quarterback day in and day out. Today was supposed to be the big Nate day. Playing a full game. Gonna show everyone he’s good. Redemption game. 3 INTs 0 TDs. People are STILL defending him. Go away. Admit you’re wrong. I know it’s hard. But swallow your pride and stop making excuses for a busted 5th round garbage pick from Pittsburgh. 

Edited November 4, 2018 by quinnearlysghost88

[Kelly the Dog]

2 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

In a vacuum that was not a bad drop. The problem is that it is ALWAYS a drop. I literally cannot remember a single tough catch that a Bills receiver has made in tight coverage this year. Not one. I remember two diving catches where the receiver had separation, including one today and one from Robert Foster a few weeks ago. I can easily think of five or more easy catches that were instead drops from this season. But I can't remember one tough contested catch. And an offense needs that threat. You cannot expect any QB, let alone a backup, to make pinpoint perfect throws 100% of the time. Sometimes the playmakers need to... make plays. Today our playmakers had more negative plays than positive. How can you blame Peterman for that? How can any QB be expected to succeed in this mess?

I agree with 95% of that. There have been a couple contested catches, at least three by Benjamin. But for the most part they hardly ever make them. But that just wasn't a drop. I'm not blaming Peterman for their crappy play, I'm saying he doesn't do hardly anything to lead this team. He plays scared. Teams take away half the field. Teams put 8 in the box and press coverage all game long and he refuses to go up top to make them back up. He's playing awful and they are playing awful.  

[Fadingpain]

15 minutes ago, K-9 said:

McD was asked directly, at his post game press conference, if Peterman was an NFL QB. Should McD have chosen that time and place to say Peterman was NOT an NFL QB? Really? But then why stop there? The reporters should also ask if Benjamin is an NFL receiver or is Bodine an NFL center, and so on.

 

It’s absurd and naive for the media to think that a head coach is gonna throw players directly under the bus in that fashion.

Let’s see if Peterman is where Anderson is 10 years from now and then maybe my opinion will change. 

 

But opinions being correct or not? Around here? Yeah, ok. 

The media doesn't think McDermott is going to throw his players under the bus.

 

They are asking suggestive, juicy questions as an opportunity for McD to say maybe something interesting so they can write about it.  They're trying to get quote material.  

 

 

[Kevin1778]

1 hour ago, boater said:

Peterman will be cut when Anderson returns officially.

 

Gotta say, Anderson v. Peterman is a toss up regarding who sucks more.

 

No way. Bills won't cut any QB with this offensive line and Jets and Jacksonville next two. They will be lucky if Anderson survives another start. People forget the Colts and Patriots defenses are garbage and he couldn't survive two games. 

 

Play Peterman to the bye and then go Allen with Anderson backup. If Allen isn't ready just keep Peterman out there. Anderson should never play unless emergency. He gets another concussion and he will retire.

Just now, quinnearlysghost88 said:

It’s the contingency of Bills fans that are defending a bad quarterback day in and day out. Today was supposed to be the big Nate day. Playing a full game. Gonna show everyone he’s good. Redemption game. 3 INTs 0 TDs. People are STILL defending him. Go away. Admit you’re wrong. I know it’s hard. But swallow your pride and stop making excuses for a busted 5th round garbage pick from Pittsburgh. 

 

His stats were on par with Anderson's stats except he scored a TD and played against a top 5 defense. Anderson did nothing against two of worse defenses in NFL.

 

The running game bigger problem than quarterbacks.

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

3 minutes ago, Kevin1778 said:

 

No way. Bills won't cut any QB with this offensive line and Jets and Jacksonville next two. They will be lucky if Anderson survives another start. People forget the Colts and Patriots defenses are garbage and he couldn't survive two games. 

 

Play Peterman to the bye and then go Allen with Anderson backup. If Allen isn't ready just keep Peterman out there. Anderson should never play unless emergency. He gets another concussion and he will retire.

 

His stats were on par with Anderson's stats except he scored a TD and played against a top 5 defense. Anderson did nothing against two of worse defenses in NFL.

 

The running game bigger problem than quarterbacks.

Anderson was 20-31 for 290 yds. Wtf are you talking about? Peterman threw 50 passes for less then 200 yds and 3 picks 

[KD in CA]

To be fair, I think Peterman deserves one more start.....

[K-9]

4 minutes ago, Fadingpain said:

The media doesn't think McDermott is going to throw his players under the bus.

 

They are asking suggestive, juicy questions as an opportunity for McD to say maybe something interesting so they can write about it.  They're trying to get quote material.  

 

 

In that case it’s absurd and naive for them to think a head coach is going to take the bait with that kind of question. 

 

That’s really not the point though, is it? The point is that fans are outraged that he said he believes Peterman is an NFL QB in response to a loaded question, at his post game presser. As naive and absurd as the media can be, fans are often even worse.

[Straight Hucklebuck]

22 minutes ago, K-9 said:

McD was asked directly, at his post game press conference, if Peterman was an NFL QB. Should McD have chosen that time and place to say Peterman was NOT an NFL QB? Really? But then why stop there? The reporters should also ask if Benjamin is an NFL receiver or is Bodine an NFL center, and so on.

 

It’s absurd and naive for the media to think that a head coach is gonna throw players directly under the bus in that fashion.

Let’s see if Peterman is where Anderson is 10 years from now and then maybe my opinion will change. 

 

But opinions being correct or not? Around here? Yeah, ok. 

He’s still starting games K-9. 

 

[K-9]

Just now, Straight Hucklebuck said:

He’s still starting games K-9. 

 

Only because Anderson was out. Should he have gone with Barkley? Logan Thomas? Slim pickins to say the least. 

 

And yes, it’s a situation of their own making, but that’s a different argument at this juncture.

[Kelly the Dog]

1 minute ago, K-9 said:

In that case it’s absurd and naive for them to think a head coach is going to take the bait with that kind of question. 

 

That’s really not the point though, is it? The point is that fans are outraged that he said he believes Peterman is an NFL QB in response to a loaded question, at his post game presser. As naive and absurd as the media can be, fans are often even worse.

Yep. You can fault him a ton for starting Peterman any of these games, and sticking with him after it was glaringly clear he cannot get it done. But you cannot fault him for what he said in response to that question. It was a Catch-22. The real sad part is that it was a serious question. The fact that it was asked is troubling by itself. 

[K-9]

I would add that we won’t see Peterman again if Anderson is healthy.

[HalftimeAdjustment]

Just now, Kelly the Dog said:

Yep. You can fault him a ton for starting Peterman any of these games, and sticking with him after it was glaringly clear he cannot get it done. But you cannot fault him for what he said in response to that question. It was a Catch-22. The real sad part is that it was a serious question. The fact that it was asked is troubling by itself. 

 

I guess we need to find out if opposing coaches are laughing (shades of Ronnie Jones).

[vincec]

1 hour ago, par73 said:

In his postgame press conference, McDermott stated that he feels Peterman is an NFL QB.

He pretty much has to say this until he actually cuts him (if that ever happens.) But I really wonder what he sees in him. He has so little arm talent that it's very hard for him out there. Even when he makes decent reads he has trouble making the throws.

[Kelly the Dog]

Just now, vincec said:

He pretty much has to say this until he actually cuts him (if that ever happens.) But I really wonder what he sees in him. He has so little arm talent that it's very hard for him out there. Even when he makes decent reads he has trouble making the throws.

Yeah, but that is only evident if you watch him for ten minutes.