B-Man Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Sounds like a democrat.......... Elsewhere tonight: Bloomberg Won't Explain Stop-And-Frisk Comments, Says Trump's the Racist. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 24 minutes ago, Golden Goat said: If Buttigieg pulls this out Bernie Bros are gonna lose their *****. ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 This one hurts the most: In other news: who the #$@% is this guy? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 I would think a moderate like Klobuchar would have the best chance in Nov. for the Democrats. If Bernie won the nomination voters might keep the Senate a republican majority to counter any extreme changes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 I sure hope this is Sander;s last stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 From Jennifer Rubin: Quote Sanders was projected as the winner, but the margin of his victory was modest (less than 2 percent). As in Iowa, he did not juice the turnout with an influx of new voters as he promised. The youngest voters made up 12 percent on Tuesday compared with 19 percent in 2016. The Democratic establishment has panicked at the prospect of a Sanders win, but he now looks like a vulnerable front-runner, with well over half of his support coming from voters 18 to 29 and more than half coming from “very liberal” voters. If he was looking to expand beyond his traditional base, he did not do it. He actually got a larger share of repeat voters than first-time voters. With the electorate heavily skewed in favor of electability (60 percent) rather than agreement on the issues, and about half the voters finding Sanders too liberal, there is reason to believe voters have become wary of Sanders as the standard bearer in a must-win election. His base of support seems not to have grown significantly from the start of the race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, Tiberius said: I sure hope this is Sander;s last stand. Morning Tibs....I think that’s the first time I’ve heard you express an opinion other that anti Trump. I’ll take it you’re not a Bernie fan? If not then who’s your guy or gal? And why? Honestly curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 9 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Morning Tibs....I think that’s the first time I’ve heard you express an opinion other that anti Trump. I’ll take it you’re not a Bernie fan? If not then who’s your guy or gal? And why? Honestly curious. I'm actually leaning towards Bloomberg. I just like him, so far. But nothing written in stone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 (edited) Sanders, i won't say lost last night but he certainly didn't win. considering he was in his backyard and he barely eeked out a first, should be a big warning for him and the bros. all things considered, Buttigieg prolly got the win. Edited February 12, 2020 by Foxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, Tiberius said: I'm actually leaning towards Bloomberg. I just like him, so far. But nothing written in stone Thanks for sharing. I’m fascinated by the attention being given to Bloomberg. He’s not debated anyone. Nobody has asked him a question...yet. So far he’s just run and paid for his own commercials saying how much we should love him. I’m guessing the bloom will come off the rose rather quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 18 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Thanks for sharing. I’m fascinated by the attention being given to Bloomberg. He’s not debated anyone. Nobody has asked him a question...yet. So far he’s just run and paid for his own commercials saying how much we should love him. I’m guessing the bloom will come off the rose rather quickly. He has so much money, seems to be using it very well, good commercials, good organization and a message that Dems love: Trump must go. And Good Morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 37 minutes ago, Tiberius said: I'm actually leaning towards Bloomberg. I just like him, so far. But nothing written in stone You “just like him”? Thanks for the detailed reasoning. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 44 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Morning Tibs....I think that’s the first time I’ve heard you express an opinion other that anti Trump. I’ll take it you’re not a Bernie fan? If not then who’s your guy or gal? And why? Honestly curious. For months he was either Biden or Warren which makes me wonder how a person juggles those two so readily since there is not a high overlap in terms of philosophy. He will be whoever the frontrunner is going into the convention even if the lead is razor thin. No harm in asking Tiberius but his answer will be as satisfying as a bottle of tepid water and a 3 day old doughnut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 30 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Thanks for sharing. I’m fascinated by the attention being given to Bloomberg. He’s not debated anyone. Nobody has asked him a question...yet. So far he’s just run and paid for his own commercials saying how much we should love him. I’m guessing the bloom will come off the rose rather quickly. Don’t forget he flew in a helicopter with Obama pointing at maps. That’s gotta be good for something right? 12 minutes ago, Tiberius said: He has so much money, seems to be using it very well, good commercials, good organization and a message that Dems love: Trump must go. And Good Morning Oh sorry. I spoke too soon. You like him because he has lots of money and good commercials? And because his message is “Trump must go!”? Lordy those are great reasons to put him in charge. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: Don’t forget he flew in a helicopter with Obama pointing at maps. That’s gotta be good for something right? Oh sorry. I spoke too soon. You like him because he has lots of money and good commercials? And because his message is “Trump must go!”? Lordy those are great reasons to put him in charge. ? He sounds like my 14 year old substantially apolitical niece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 10 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: For months he was either Biden or Warren which makes me wonder how a person juggles those two so readily since there is not a high overlap in terms of philosophy. He will be whoever the frontrunner is going into the convention even if the lead is razor thin. No harm in asking Tiberius but his answer will be as satisfying as a bottle of tepid water and a 3 day old doughnut. Were the donuts wrapped up, or just left out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Were the donuts wrapped up, or just left out? https://www.menshealth.com/nutrition/g19518706/worst-donuts-in-america/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 57 minutes ago, Tiberius said: I'm actually leaning towards Bloomberg. I just like him, so far. But nothing written in stone Well, Bloomberg is toast after the racist exposure last night. Pick another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, keepthefaith said: Well, Bloomberg is toast after the racist exposure last night. Pick another. I have not seen that yet. I'll check it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, \GoBillsInDallas/ said: https://www.menshealth.com/nutrition/g19518706/worst-donuts-in-america/ How could they ignore Duck Donuts? A travesty of epic proportions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 "Ninety-five percent of murders- murderers and murder victims fit one M.O. You can just take a description, Xerox it, and pass it out to all the cops," he said. "They are male, minorities, 16-25. That's true in New York, that's true in virtually every city (inaudible). And that's where the real crime is. You've got to get the guns out of the hands of people that are getting killed." Could be a deal breaker, but in the age of Trump it might not matter. 10 minutes ago, \GoBillsInDallas/ said: https://www.menshealth.com/nutrition/g19518706/worst-donuts-in-america/ Are they worse than Chicken Wings? More sugar and less salt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: "Ninety-five percent of murders- murderers and murder victims fit one M.O. You can just take a description, Xerox it, and pass it out to all the cops," he said. "They are male, minorities, 16-25. That's true in New York, that's true in virtually every city (inaudible). And that's where the real crime is. You've got to get the guns out of the hands of people that are getting killed." Could be a deal breaker, but in the age of Trump it might not matter. Obviously hyperbole used to make a larger point that is at least partially true. The outrage on this is ridiculous. And I hate Bloomberg. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Jaraxxus said: If the Dimocratic party nominates THAT kind of guy, then all their protestations about Trump's "racism" are bull####. For trying to reduce minority crime? No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, Tiberius said: For trying to reduce minority crime? No Trump adding jobs and increasing wages of minorities is not a deterrent to crime? Doughnuts sitting out and near a window so the sunlight dries them out by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 minute ago, RochesterRob said: Doughnuts sitting out and near a window so the sunlight dries them out by the way. Who hurt you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 19 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: Trump adding jobs and increasing wages of minorities is not a deterrent to crime? Doughnuts sitting out and near a window so the sunlight dries them out by the way. Trump did that? Oh please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: Trump did that? Oh please. The economists say that all boats are rising in the current economy so that would include minorities. The classic neoliberal argument has always been crime will go down if economic opportunity is there along with a living wage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 New Hampshire Berns Down. “One thing is certain: Elizabeth Warren will soon be flipping through Hillary Clinton’s Book of Blame for excuses to explain away her myriad weaknesses as a candidate. Sexism will of course be Number 1 on the list, sure to be followed by ‘Something, something Trump,’ and the inherent patriarchal oppression spread through Tom and Jerry cartoons.” . 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 minute ago, RochesterRob said: The economists say that all boats are rising in the current economy so that would include minorities. The classic neoliberal argument has always been crime will go down if economic opportunity is there along with a living wage. Trump has nothing to do with economy. He's just lucky. Do you give Obama credit for the longer string of economic growth from 2010 on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Tiberius said: Trump has nothing to do with economy. He's just lucky. Do you give Obama credit for the longer string of economic growth from 2010 on? .......with.....economy? Are you going Russkie on me? There should be the word "the" between the word with and the word economy. Presidents historically get too much credit or too much blame on the economy but Trump did inspire a great degree of irrational exhurberance amongst the business world. As to the doughnuts the Sanders supporters at one of his rallies did that. They were unaware of the need for wrapping and refrigeration of perishable food types. Sanders cited this in his speech as an another example of the need for more government. Edited February 12, 2020 by RochesterRob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 minute ago, RochesterRob said: .......with.....economy? Are you going Russkie on me? There should be the word "the" between the word with and the word economy. Presidents historically get too much credit or too much blame on the economy but Trump did inspire a great degree of irrational exhurberance amongst the business world. As to the doughnuts the Sanders supporters at one of his rallies did that. They were unaware of the need for wrapping and refrigeration of perishable food types. Sanders cited this in his speech as an another example for the need for more government. This business expansion has been going on since 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Wild Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Okay I am not one of the normals on here so I have a question for all of you. Both Republicans and Democrats Can you rank the 9 candidates left into who you would be okay with and who you absolutely dont. I know both sides have there absolute nos and absolute yes but I am curious who the republicans on here are okay with and who the Democrats on here are leaning towards. So list them out 1-9, pleases I just want a civil discussion I dont want people saying all no ones or everyone but trump. Just I wanna know the list of prefrences. Biden Bloomberg Buttigieg Gabbard Klobuchar Patrick Sanders Steyer Warren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, Tiberius said: This business expansion has been going on since 2010 I believe that I addressed that when I said Presidents get either too much credit or too much blame for the economy. A lot of the credit goes to the rank and file whether it be Obama or Trump in the White House. You need to read up on the concept of irrational exuberance which implies the economy can be stimulated by factors such as emotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Republican view: OKAY Gabbard Patrick Steyer Biden Klobacher Buttigieg Warren Bloomberg Sanders NOT OKAY That is the order for me, but frankly they all would be far too liberal for me. The ones that the Media claim are "moderate" are not really at all..........they just appear to be compared to the rest. I would like to see one of our PPP lefties rankings myself. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 9 minutes ago, Mr Wild said: Okay I am not one of the normals on here so I have a question for all of you. Both Republicans and Democrats Can you rank the 9 candidates left into who you would be okay with and who you absolutely dont. I know both sides have there absolute nos and absolute yes but I am curious who the republicans on here are okay with and who the Democrats on here are leaning towards. So list them out 1-9, pleases I just want a civil discussion I dont want people saying all no ones or everyone but trump. Just I wanna know the list of prefrences. Biden Bloomberg Buttigieg Gabbard Klobuchar Patrick Sanders Steyer Warren I refuse to vote for anyone who was either complicit in the Russia hoax, or complicit in pushing it into the bloodstream. Thus, none of those running on the left this ticket will ever get my vote or support again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Wild Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Just now, Deranged Rhino said: I refuse to vote for anyone who was either complicit in the Russia hoax, or complicit in pushing it into the bloodstream. Thus, none of those running on the left this ticket will ever get my vote or support again. Okay but is there ranking from least worst to worst? Not that you will vote for them but just your feelings for them. There must be ones you dislike more or less then the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, Mr Wild said: Okay I am not one of the normals on here so I have a question for all of you. Both Republicans and Democrats Can you rank the 9 candidates left into who you would be okay with and who you absolutely dont. I know both sides have there absolute nos and absolute yes but I am curious who the republicans on here are okay with and who the Democrats on here are leaning towards. So list them out 1-9, pleases I just want a civil discussion I dont want people saying all no ones or everyone but trump. Just I wanna know the list of prefrences. Biden Bloomberg Buttigieg Gabbard Klobuchar Patrick Sanders Steyer Warren I'm neither, but I can tell you without a doubt there's not a single person on that list I'd be willing to vote for. I suppose Buttigieg is the least offensive of the bunch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 16 minutes ago, Mr Wild said: Okay I am not one of the normals on here so I have a question for all of you. Both Republicans and Democrats Can you rank the 9 candidates left into who you would be okay with and who you absolutely dont. I know both sides have there absolute nos and absolute yes but I am curious who the republicans on here are okay with and who the Democrats on here are leaning towards. So list them out 1-9, pleases I just want a civil discussion I dont want people saying all no ones or everyone but trump. Just I wanna know the list of prefrences. Biden Bloomberg Buttigieg Gabbard Klobuchar Patrick Sanders Steyer Warren IMO the toughest matchup for Trump among the dem candidates that have any chance of getting the nomination is Klobuchar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 15 minutes ago, B-Man said: Republican view: OKAY Gabbard Patrick Steyer Biden Klobacher Buttigieg Warren Bloomberg Sanders NOT OKAY That is the order for me, but frankly they all would be far too liberal for me. The ones that the Media claim are "moderate" are not really at all..........they just appear to be compared to the rest. I would like to see one of our PPP lefties rankings myself. I would point out to my fellow conservatives, that I did my rankings, not on any type of personal preference, I do not think any of them deserve to be president But I ranked them in order of who I think would do the least damage to the country. Try it that way. Still waiting on a lib's take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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