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9 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

:lol: I can't wait to see how this backfires on Zero Chance Joe. 

 

 

 

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the Biden campaign created a website called, 'thefactsfolks.com', to fact check smears about Sleepy Joe. really? geesus, they are *****in' stupid.

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1 hour ago, Foxx said:

the Biden campaign created a website called, 'thefactsfolks.com', to fact check smears about Sleepy Joe. really? geesus, they are *****in' stupid.

 

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Whoever is running Biden's campaign needs a serious "Okay Boomer" intervention

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8 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

Stalinists do and say Stalinist things.

 

 

You somehow must have picked up the wrong story to go with that picture. I distinctly remember her referring to Bernie's feeling of inadequacy when that picture was taken. 

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Tulsi Gabbard sues Hillary Clinton for defamation over Russia remarks

 

Tulsi Gabbard filed a defamation lawsuit against Hillary Clinton on Wednesday, alleging the former secretary of state and 2016 Democratic presidential nominee "lied" about the Hawaii congresswoman's ties to Russia during a 2019 interview.

 

"I'm not making any predictions, but I think they've got their eye on somebody who is currently in the Democratic primary and are grooming her to be the third-party candidate," Clinton said, speaking on a podcast with former Obama adviser David Plouffe. "She's the favorite of the Russians."


Clinton, in the same interview, suggested that person she was talking about was a "Russian asset," while not naming Gabbard.

The lawsuit, filed Wednesday in federal court in the Southern District of New York, says Gabbard has suffered damages that are "estimated to exceed $50 million." She is seeking unspecified compensation and the prevention of a further spread of the comments. Clinton spokesman Merrill responded to the lawsuit by calling it "ridiculous."

 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/22/politics/tulsi-gabbard-hillary-clinton-lawsuit/index.html

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3 minutes ago, ALF said:

Tulsi Gabbard sues Hillary Clinton for defamation over Russia remarks

 

After Hillary's embarrassing kneecapping of Bernie, Gabbard is smartly going after her, fully aware that American's who consider themselves Democrats are begging Hillary to just please, please, please go away...while simultaneously realizing she won't.

 

Good on Gabbard. I really like this woman.

 

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18 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

:lol: I can't wait to see how this backfires on Zero Chance Joe. 

 

 

 

 

:lol: Sure, burn 44. That will help you keep those Obama voting base you desperately need. 

 

 

...thought I read Jenna Jamison is playing Quid Pro Joe in the video...……...

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10 hours ago, B-Man said:

My prediction is he endorses Biden before South Carolina if he wins Iowa or New Hampshire.  That should give Biden the nomination.  However, this politico article says

 

 

One Democrat who is neutral in the 2020 race and spoke to Obama about Biden’s gaffe-prone nature recalled the former president saying: “Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f*** things up.”

 

However, If Biden slips up and Bernie gains the momentum it's going to be hilarious seeing all these corporate Dems start to endorse Bloomberg.  A guy who ran as a Republican for mayor accepting Giuliani's endorsement.

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On 1/22/2020 at 12:26 PM, Deranged Rhino said:

 


This woman has a bag of rocks for brains and a lump of coal for a heart. She’s despicable. The father couldn’t have said it any better or made her look anymore foolish. She is the proxy for the academic progressive left and she can’t even address a simple point without resorting to the snark to defend her position. It’s in their DNA, just blow off the normal Americans: cater to the stupid and the “ruling elites”. 

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ELIZABETH WARREN’S JOE THE PLUMBER MOMENT.

 

After waiting in line to get his moment with Warren, a voter “vent[ed] frustration that her promise to wipe out student loan debt would not reimburse him for the tuition that he’d already paid,” as the Hill report puts it.

 

I would put it slightly differently. I would say he wondered if Warren understood that her proposal would make him a chump of the first order.

 

“My daughter is in school,” the man said, as captured in The Hill’s transcription of the exchange. “I saved all my money just to pay my student loans. Can I have my money back?”

 

“Of course not,” Warren responded.

 

“So you want to help those who don’t save any money and the ones that do the right thing get screwed?” he responded.

 

The Hill notes that the man cited his friend who makes more money than he does and, instead of paying off his loans, the friend bought a car and went on expensive vacations.

 

“I saved my money,” the man said. “He made more than I did. I worked a double shift, worked extra … so you’re laughing at me.”

 

“No I’m not,” Warren responded.

 

“Yes that’s exactly what you’re doing,” the man said. “We did the right thing and we get screwed.”

 

That is a sentiment that is widely applicable to the Democrats’ policy proposals.

 

 

 

Well, to be fair, the votes of people who didn’t do the right thing are plentiful, and easier to buy.

 
 
 
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12 hours ago, B-Man said:

ELIZABETH WARREN’S JOE THE PLUMBER MOMENT.

 

After waiting in line to get his moment with Warren, a voter “vent[ed] frustration that her promise to wipe out student loan debt would not reimburse him for the tuition that he’d already paid,” as the Hill report puts it.

 

I would put it slightly differently. I would say he wondered if Warren understood that her proposal would make him a chump of the first order.

 

“My daughter is in school,” the man said, as captured in The Hill’s transcription of the exchange. “I saved all my money just to pay my student loans. Can I have my money back?”

 

“Of course not,” Warren responded.

 

“So you want to help those who don’t save any money and the ones that do the right thing get screwed?” he responded.

 

The Hill notes that the man cited his friend who makes more money than he does and, instead of paying off his loans, the friend bought a car and went on expensive vacations.

 

“I saved my money,” the man said. “He made more than I did. I worked a double shift, worked extra … so you’re laughing at me.”

 

“No I’m not,” Warren responded.

 

“Yes that’s exactly what you’re doing,” the man said. “We did the right thing and we get screwed.”

 

That is a sentiment that is widely applicable to the Democrats’ policy proposals.

 

 

 

Well, to be fair, the votes of people who didn’t do the right thing are plentiful, and easier to buy.

 
 
 
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I figure I’ll be pushing $350k on student debt for my children when all is said and done.  My children had the opportunity to go to most schools, had good grades and worked to help the cause.  We collectively made choices, some of which were heavily influenced by the voting bloc with the deep pockets over the outraged voices of the attending bloc, but which were based on some level of sense once referred to as “common”. 
 

I give this man credit for his controlled rage, and his refusal to shake the hand of this phony who doesn’t even bother try and hide her disdain and contempt for his asking a pretty reasonable question.  As a member of the class of the educational elites, Warren drank deeply from the well of student debt, just part of the crowd that &$#@ed students over for personal enrichment.  I wonder if she took to the street while lining her pockets, or if she just saddled up knowing that down the road she could pretend she didn’t, knowing that many people who stood to gain from her scheme would back her up regardless. 
 

One of the most amazing parts to me is that in spite of the cost of education, and in spite of NYs grand giveaway of education for those at certain income levels, I still get solicitation to send more money to help the school(s) out.  It’s simply amazing how these people think.

 


 

 

 

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3 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

I figure I’ll be pushing $350k on student debt for my children when all is said and done.  My children had the opportunity to go to most schools, had good grades and worked to help the cause.  We collectively made choices, some of which were heavily influenced by the voting bloc with the deep pockets over the outraged voices of the attending bloc, but which were based on some level of sense once referred to as “common”. 
 

I give this man credit for his controlled rage, and his refusal to shake the hand of this phony who doesn’t even bother try and hide her disdain and contempt for his asking a pretty reasonable question.  As a member of the class of the educational elites, Warren drank deeply from the well of student debt, just part of the crowd that &$#@ed students over for personal enrichment.  I wonder if she took to the street while lining her pockets, or if she just saddled up knowing that down the road she could pretend she didn’t, knowing that many people who stood to gain from her scheme would back her up regardless. 
 

One of the most amazing parts to me is that in spite of the cost of education, and in spite of NYs grand giveaway of education for those at certain income levels, I still get solicitation to send more money to help the school(s) out.  It’s simply amazing how these people think.

 


 

 

 

 

My family paid for both of my children to graduate undergrad debt free.  We could've let the kids take serious loans but didn't want to saddle them with that debt.  #### Liz Warren and her "#### the responsible parents" bullschiff.

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5 hours ago, Taro T said:

 

My family paid for both of my children to graduate undergrad debt free.  We could've let the kids take serious loans but didn't want to saddle them with that debt.  #### Liz Warren and her "#### the responsible parents" bullschiff.

I paid off my undergrad loans last year, but still have $75k to go for grad school. As great as it would be for me personally to have that $75k bill disappear, the bottom line is it was my choice to take on the debt, so it’s my responsibility to pay it off, not Joe Taxpayer. My job qualifies me for public service Lon forgiveness after 10 years and I’m about 4 years away from that, but I plan to have it paid off before then.

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6 hours ago, Taro T said:

 

My family paid for both of my children to graduate undergrad debt free.  We could've let the kids take serious loans but didn't want to saddle them with that debt.  #### Liz Warren and her "#### the responsible parents" bullschiff.

 

...I paid the total education costs for both my kids so they could start their careers debt free.......can I send my application for "Tuition Reparations" directly to Lizzie's teepee?.....

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So my question is after the DNC takes out Bernie, and Warren implodes from unforced errors, and the impeachment trial defense exposes Biden....what then? Who’s left? They aren’t seriously going to put the Mayor of South Bend Indiana up as their new ‘chosen one’, are they? That’ll never fly with the African American community. There must be a Plan B.

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18 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

So my question is after the DNC takes out Bernie, and Warren implodes from unforced errors, and the impeachment trial defense exposes Biden....what then? Who’s left? They aren’t seriously going to put the Mayor of South Bend Indiana up as their new ‘chosen one’, are they? That’ll never fly with the African American community. There must be a Plan B.

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3 hours ago, Chandemonium said:

I paid off my undergrad loans last year, but still have $75k to go for grad school. As great as it would be for me personally to have that $75k bill disappear, the bottom line is it was my choice to take on the debt, so it’s my responsibility to pay it off, not Joe Taxpayer. My job qualifies me for public service Lon forgiveness after 10 years and I’m about 4 years away from that, but I plan to have it paid off before then.


Good for you.  That loan forgiveness ***** really pisses me off. Why should I subsidize your education and your children’s education. 

40 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

So my question is after the DNC takes out Bernie, and Warren implodes from unforced errors, and the impeachment trial defense exposes Biden....what then? Who’s left? They aren’t seriously going to put the Mayor of South Bend Indiana up as their new ‘chosen one’, are they? That’ll never fly with the African American community. There must be a Plan B.


Hillary.
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46 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:


Good for you.  That loan forgiveness ***** really pisses me off. Why should I subsidize your education and your children’s education. 


Hillary.
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  Yep.  It would take a lot to convince me that Hillary crossed the ocean other than to stay out of the line of fire and make a shorter jump from a country that has no FBI agents waiting to detain her to a country with no extradition treaty.  Bill has always wanted a villa in a tropical country and is on good terms with the government of Thailand.

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1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said:

You may be right, but I find it hard to believe the DNC is going to allow an Uber rich guy to buy the primary and then revert to arguing to get big money out of politics. It’s gonna be interesting!

 

...caveat emptor.........he'll outlaw slurpees and biggie fries..............

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12 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

SPOILER: YES, YES SHE IS. 

 

CBS Anchor to Warren: Are You Saying ‘Tough Luck’ to People Who Saved for College? 

 

Under leftism, people who do the right thing are always suckers.

 

 

 

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...SMH...yet ANOTHER Massachusetts gem to litter the political landscape.......the "chowdah is rancid"..............

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14 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

SPOILER: YES, YES SHE IS. 

 

CBS Anchor to Warren: Are You Saying ‘Tough Luck’ to People Who Saved for College? 

 

Under leftism, people who do the right thing are always suckers.

 

 

 

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She is right. You have to start somewhere. My issue is with why start at all?  Why is no one asking why is it so important to forgive student debt?  So people will have more disposable income to bolster the economy?  If so fair enough. But I’d rather they go after the “university industrial complex”. Oh wait. That would hurt her liberal brethren. Never mind. 

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