Democratic 2020 Presidential Primary Thread

[Teddy KGB]

15 minutes ago, John Adams said:

 

You guys are re-posting it. Call it a win. 

whose got your vote ? 
 

which ones gonna have a Billie Eilish concert to win you over this go round ? 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

13 minutes ago, John Adams said:

 

You guys are re-posting it. Call it a win. 

 

*I* don't repost anything.

 

 

[John Adams]

25 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said:

whose got your vote ? 
 

 

All depends on who the nominee on the D side is. If it's Warren or Sanders, then Trump gets my vote. Others, I'd have to consider the choices. 

 

I registered D for the first time ever so I could have a potentially meaningful vote in the primary (registered R last time for the same reason but I've been a registered R at other times)...but our primary in PA is late so we will see if it even matters. 

Edited January 15, 2020 by John Adams

[Teddy KGB]

18 minutes ago, John Adams said:

 

All depends on who the nominee on the D side is. If it's Warren or Sanders, then Trump gets my vote. Others, I'd have to consider the choices. 

 

I registered D for the first time ever so I could have a potentially meaningful vote in the primary (registered R last time for the same reason but I've been a registered R at other times)...but our primary in PA is late so we will see if it even matters. 

what about the Billie Eilish show ? 

[SoCal Deek]

44 minutes ago, John Adams said:

 

All depends on who the nominee on the D side is. If it's Warren or Sanders, then Trump gets my vote. Others, I'd have to consider the choices. 

 

I registered D for the first time ever so I could have a potentially meaningful vote in the primary (registered R last time for the same reason but I've been a registered R at other times)...but our primary in PA is late so we will see if it even matters. 

You’re in luck John. The DNC has started pitting Warren against Sanders so they wipe each other out and give Biden an uncontested lay up. Unfortunately the ensuing carnage will so infuriate Bernie supporters that they’ll stay home in November as a protest, instead of pulling the lever for Uncle Joe. 

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

13 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

You’re in luck John. The DNC has started pitting Warren against Sanders so they wipe each other out and give Biden an uncontested lay up. Unfortunately the ensuing carnage will so infuriate Bernie supporters that they’ll stay home in November as a protest, instead of pulling the lever for Uncle Joe. 

 

...not to worry!!….Quid Pro Joe gets called for traveling...…….

[Chef Jim]

Am I the only one that is more interested in who ends up being the choice for VP than who wins the nomination?  I’m pretty sure it will be a black transgendered woman.

 

Now is a transgendered woman a woman who is now a man or a man who is now a woman? I always get that confused. Someone help this boomer out. 

[Albwan]

Its hilarious and quite obvious the dnc and the media have collaborated 

to start a feud between Warren and Sanders.

So typical, all the demorats have is to create strife, tension, and infighting

between groups to get their nefarious way.

[John Adams]

31 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

Am I the only one that is more interested in who ends up being the choice for VP than who wins the nomination?  I’m pretty sure it will be a black transgendered woman.

 

Now is a transgendered woman a woman who is now a man or a man who is now a woman? I always get that confused. Someone help this boomer out. 

 

I'd be shocked if it's anyone but Klobuchar. They need someone who plays well in the middle states. 

1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said:

You’re in luck John. The DNC has started pitting Warren against Sanders so they wipe each other out and give Biden an uncontested lay up. Unfortunately the ensuing carnage will so infuriate Bernie supporters that they’ll stay home in November as a protest, instead of pulling the lever for Uncle Joe. 

 

You're an idiot. That's Warren trying to claw back into the race, not a PPPConspiracy(TM). 

[IDBillzFan]

20 hours ago, John Adams said:

 

Excellent. 

 

Lenny works his ass off!

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_McKean

 

Lenny and the Squigtones.

 

Dr. Demento.

 

The only thing missing was a Pinky Tuscadero reference.

 

Damn, I'm effin' old.

[Foxx]

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https://twitter.com/Stckysheets/status/1217116492996591616

 

[Deranged Rhino]

 

9 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Is there something you're asking me?

 

CNN, huh? I'm pretty sure you guys all call that Fake News over here.

 

So, you must be finally coming around to the fact that Donald Trump is, in fact, going to lose

 

You can do better than that, Transplant. Pick your trash talking game up  

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Pt 2 of the PV release: 

 

[Foxx]

taken from @DC Tom twitter feed: ?

 

https://twitter.com/TheBabylonBee/status/1217246276603056129

 

[Deranged Rhino]

 

[B-Man]

 

 

First clever Democrat tweet in a while.

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That being said, he has no chance.

 

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[B-Man]

The democrat left  (but I repeat myself)  has a new target.

 

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[section122]

On 1/10/2020 at 12:05 PM, Deranged Rhino said:

Serious question for the democrats down here -- doesn't it piss you off that the party is once again tilting the primary in favor of the establishment choice (Biden)? Or are you fine with being lied to, cheated, and disenfranchised by your own "party"?

 

Yes very much so.  They are going to screw Bernie again.  I called it a long time ago.  Trump vs Biden and Trump gets the nod.  Then 2024 will be the dems turn.  DNC is not anyone's party just like the RNC isn't.  Just rich people trading power under the illusion of free and open elections.

 

14 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

@transplantbillsfan

 

 

 

 

Gonna have to join in the chorus of wait now CNN matters?  CNN is DNC propganda.  Shoot there is a whole thread on PPP about it but because they put up something you agree with, they now get posted here by you? 

 

So the post I quoted above and this one go hand in hand.  Going even futher, the media loves Trump as president including CNN.  Negativity sells and ratings are never better than when you can pitch the sky is falling.

[transplantbillsfan]

3 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

 

You can do better than that, Transplant. Pick your trash talking game up  

 

[SoCal Deek]

I’m not much for conspiracy theories but has anyone wondered how Joe Biden can continue to lead all these polls when he is clearly a shell of himself in every single debate? Could it be the polls are ‘rigged’? Could it be the DNC knows the only way they win is to get rid of Trump BEFORE the election, and the only way to do that is to make impeachment be about the democratic ‘front runner’ opponent?  
 

Think of it this way: would be impeaching Trump for ‘digging up dirt’ on Corey Booker?

[Deranged Rhino]

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-elizabeth-warren-is-fraud-and-liar-dems-have-reason-to-be-nervous-about-other-2020-options.amp?__twitter_impression=true
 

Tucker has a point. 

[Foxx]

1 hour ago, section122 said:

 

Yes very much so.  They are going to screw Bernie again.  I called it a long time ago.  Trump vs Biden and Trump gets the nod.  Then 2024 will be the dems turn.  DNC is not anyone's party just like the RNC isn't.  Just rich people trading power under the illusion of free and open elections.

 

 

Gonna have to join in the chorus of wait now CNN matters?  CNN is DNC propganda.  Shoot there is a whole thread on PPP about it but because they put up something you agree with, they now get posted here by you? 

 

So the post I quoted above and this one go hand in hand.  Going even futher, the media loves Trump as president including CNN.  Negativity sells and ratings are never better than when you can pitch the sky is falling.

it is all about information (warfare). even within the disinformation, there are always nuggets of truth. the ultimate goal is to use (hone) your discernment and be able to sift the wheat from the chaff.

Edited January 15, 2020 by Foxx

[Buffalo_Gal]

41 minutes ago, section122 said:

 

Gonna have to join in the chorus of wait now CNN matters?  CNN is DNC propganda.  Shoot there is a whole thread on PPP about it but because they put up something you agree with, they now get posted here by you? 

 

So the post I quoted above and this one go hand in hand.  Going even futher, the media loves Trump as president including CNN.  Negativity sells and ratings are never better than when you can pitch the sky is falling.

I read it as ... even CNN ...CNN Of all places!!! can see it!
 

 

[Deranged Rhino]

1 hour ago, section122 said:

Gonna have to join in the chorus of wait now CNN matters?  CNN is DNC propganda.  Shoot there is a whole thread on PPP about it but because they put up something you agree with, they now get posted here by you? 

 

So the post I quoted above and this one go hand in hand.  Going even futher, the media loves Trump as president including CNN.  Negativity sells and ratings are never better than when you can pitch the sky is falling.

 

Just for clarity: I have posted plenty of CNN links/stories/articles. Sometimes to expose them as the frauds they are, other times because the story would mean more coming from them to the left leaning/not as involved posters. This time it was specifically because they're a DNC mouthpiece that I posted it -- specifically to tweak transplant (in a joking/fun way, not meant to be mean) and our bet on 2020. 

 

Like Foxx said above, I'm the sort who reads all the sources, from every conceivable bias, and then sorts out the truth from the bs laced into every article. It's an information war after all. Getting locked into one source over the other is a quick way to become uninformed in such wars (imo).   

[3rdnlng]

22 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Just for clarity: I have posted plenty of CNN links/stories/articles. Sometimes to expose them as the frauds they are, other times because the story would mean more coming from them to the left leaning/not as involved posters. This time it was specifically because they're a DNC mouthpiece that I posted it -- specifically to tweak transplant (in a joking/fun way, not meant to be mean) and our bet on 2020. 

 

Like Foxx said above, I'm the sort who reads all the sources, from every conceivable bias, and then sorts out the truth from the bs laced into every article. It's an information war after all. Getting locked into one source over the other is a quick way to become uninformed in such wars (imo).   

Let's say I read something on a conservative site and want to post it at PPP. I'll Google it to see if it's also being reported on any liberal sites and if I determine that the info appears to be true, I'll always post it from the liberal rag. 

[Deranged Rhino]

This dude is a bad guy, no question. And that he's still employed by the campaign is hilarious. But is it me, or is he just SUPER high in all these videos. Makes me wonder what he's like sober, if he's ever sober that is. 

 

 

But seems like whoever is doing the taping just waits for him to blaze and then hits record. 

[section122]

1 hour ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

I read it as ... even CNN ...CNN Of all places!!! can see it!
 

 

 

51 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Just for clarity: I have posted plenty of CNN links/stories/articles. Sometimes to expose them as the frauds they are, other times because the story would mean more coming from them to the left leaning/not as involved posters. This time it was specifically because they're a DNC mouthpiece that I posted it -- specifically to tweak transplant (in a joking/fun way, not meant to be mean) and our bet on 2020. 

 

Like Foxx said above, I'm the sort who reads all the sources, from every conceivable bias, and then sorts out the truth from the bs laced into every article. It's an information war after all. Getting locked into one source over the other is a quick way to become uninformed in such wars (imo).   

 

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/01/15/cnn-truly-terrible-influence-country-democratic-debate-moderators-pilloried-centrist

 

Critics of the corporate media as well as supporters and staffers of Sen. Bernie Sanders' campaign blasted the moderators of the CNN/Des Moines Register Democratic presidential debate Tuesday night for employing centrist talking points and demonstrating a bias against Sanders in how they framed questions.

 

It is everywhere today how slanted that debate was by CNN.  Here is the best example imo: 

 

https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnn-elizabeth-warren-bernie-sanders

 

"Senator Sanders, I do want to be clear here. You're saying that you never told Senator Warren that a woman could not win the election," Phillip followed.

"That is correct," Sanders answered.

"Senator Warren, what did you think when Senator Sanders told you a woman could not win an election?" Phillip then asked the progressive rival, which sparked audible laughs in the auditorium and a shake of the head from Sanders.

 

This is the clear bias that exists.  It isn't that even CNN sees it, it is grasping at Biden or in a pinch Warren as the status quo candidate.  I firmly believe that the DNC would rather lose with anyone rather than see Bernie win

 

https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1217280001218895872?s=20

Edited January 15, 2020 by section122

[Deranged Rhino]

Just now, section122 said:

 

 

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/01/15/cnn-truly-terrible-influence-country-democratic-debate-moderators-pilloried-centrist

 

Critics of the corporate media as well as supporters and staffers of Sen. Bernie Sanders' campaign blasted the moderators of the CNN/Des Moines Register Democratic presidential debate Tuesday night for employing centrist talking points and demonstrating a bias against Sanders in how they framed questions.

 

It is everywhere today how slanted that debate was by CNN.  Here is the best example imo: 

 

https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnn-elizabeth-warren-bernie-sanders

 

"Senator Sanders, I do want to be clear here. You're saying that you never told Senator Warren that a woman could not win the election," Phillip followed.

"That is correct," Sanders answered.

"Senator Warren, what did you think when Senator Sanders told you a woman could not win an election?" Phillip then asked the progressive rival, which sparked audible laughs in the auditorium and a shake of the head from Sanders.

 

This is the clear bias that exists.  It isn't that even CNN sees it, it is grasping at Biden or in a pinch Warren as the status quo candidate.  I firmly believe that the DNC would rather lose with anyone rather than see Bernie win

 

https://publish.twitter.com/?query=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FDonaldJTrumpJr%2Fstatus%2F1217280001218895872&widget=Tweet

 

Oh, it was completely slanted. No question. They've never been fair to Bernie that I've seen. On any of their "news" shows or opinion shows. 

[Buffalo_Gal]

1 minute ago, section122 said:

 

 

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/01/15/cnn-truly-terrible-influence-country-democratic-debate-moderators-pilloried-centrist

 

Critics of the corporate media as well as supporters and staffers of Sen. Bernie Sanders' campaign blasted the moderators of the CNN/Des Moines Register Democratic presidential debate Tuesday night for employing centrist talking points and demonstrating a bias against Sanders in how they framed questions.

 

It is everywhere today how slanted that debate was by CNN.  Here is the best example imo: 

 

https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnn-elizabeth-warren-bernie-sanders

 

"Senator Sanders, I do want to be clear here. You're saying that you never told Senator Warren that a woman could not win the election," Phillip followed.

"That is correct," Sanders answered.

"Senator Warren, what did you think when Senator Sanders told you a woman could not win an election?" Phillip then asked the progressive rival, which sparked audible laughs in the auditorium and a shake of the head from Sanders.

 

This is the clear bias that exists.  It isn't that even CNN sees it, it is grasping at Biden or in a pinch Warren as the status quo candidate.  I firmly believe that the DNC would rather lose with anyone rather than see Bernie win

 

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">How did CNN just pretend that Bernie didn’t totally deny that he said a woman couldn’t win and pretend like it it was a fact just because Warren said so? It’s not like her entire persona isn’t built on lies...<br><br>Is the fix against Bernie in again???</p>&mdash; Donald Trump Jr. (@DonaldJTrumpJr) <a href="https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1217280001218895872?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 15, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

So what are you suggesting? CNN is awesome because everyone hates them? CNN has an agenda? CNN sucks?
 

 

[section122]

Just now, Buffalo_Gal said:

So what are you suggesting? CNN is awesome because everyone hates them? CNN has an agenda? CNN sucks?
 

 

 

CNN sucks.  Sorry to not be clear! lol

 

They are the DNC mouthpiece much like fox news use to operate as the RNC mouthpiece.  I only phrase that they used to be as I don't watch them anymore to know if they have changed their ways.  2016 was eye opening to me and showed just how biased all the networks were.  After watching debates it was interesting to watch different channels talk about how great their candidate did.  It was clear who was backing HRC and who backed Trump.  

 

It would be so nice to see non-biased reporting but that can't happen now.  Media conglomerates are part of the problem but so is the fact that news channels aren't beholden to the truth.  They are entertainment pitched as news.

[Buffalo_Gal]

Just now, section122 said:

 

CNN sucks.  Sorry to not be clear! lol

 

They are the DNC mouthpiece much like fox news use to operate as the RNC mouthpiece.  I only phrase that they used to be as I don't watch them anymore to know if they have changed their ways.  2016 was eye opening to me and showed just how biased all the networks were.  After watching debates it was interesting to watch different channels talk about how great their candidate did.  It was clear who was backing HRC and who backed Trump.  

 

It would be so nice to see non-biased reporting but that can't happen now.  Media conglomerates are part of the problem but so is the fact that news channels aren't beholden to the truth.  They are entertainment pitched as news.

I agree with most of that. I do not know why there cannot be a “just the facts” news, however.

 

 

[Deranged Rhino]

Just now, section122 said:

 

CNN sucks.  Sorry to not be clear! lol

 

They are the DNC mouthpiece much like fox news use to operate as the RNC mouthpiece.  I only phrase that they used to be as I don't watch them anymore to know if they have changed their ways.  2016 was eye opening to me and showed just how biased all the networks were.  After watching debates it was interesting to watch different channels talk about how great their candidate did.  It was clear who was backing HRC and who backed Trump.  

 

It would be so nice to see non-biased reporting but that can't happen now.  Media conglomerates are part of the problem but so is the fact that news channels aren't beholden to the truth.  They are entertainment pitched as news.

 

This is why we get along even when we disagree.  

 

Your feelings are echoed by many people of all political stripes and persuasions. The people have really woken up to the fact the media is controlled/fake/more interested in narratives than truth. Our republic depends on a free press operating ethically and justly -- but we haven't had that in many decades. If ever. 

 

Times are changing though. They're a sinking ship. Some have wised up and made for the life boats. But others are pretending like everything is fine... 

 

[section122]

15 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

I agree with most of that. I do not know why there cannot be a “just the facts” news, however.

 

 

 

I don't think Joe Q Public wants that unfortunately.  People want to think they are right so they watch/listen to news that agrees with them.  Then they can laugh at how dumb the other side is.  

 

15 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

Times are changing though. They're a sinking ship.

 

 

I hope so but it is hard to think that way.  The federal govt just lost an appeal on the merger between Time Warner and AT&T.  What happened to stopping monopolies?  Disney is its own giant.  5 companies decide what information the world receives.  That is a scary number.  Ultimately I don't share your optimism which sucks lol.  As they grow larger the barrier for entry becomes much more difficult.  Then say you do own a non bias website and Disney offers you 100 million for it.  Drop in the bucket for them a cool billion for you.  I like to think I'm a principled guy but I'm cashing that check!

 

https://www.pbs.org/independentlens/democracyondeadline/mediaownership.html

 

The trend of media conglomeration has been steady. In 1983, 50 corporations controlled most of the American media, including magazines, books, music, news feeds, newspapers, movies, radio and television. By 1992 that number had dropped by half. By 2000, six corporations had ownership of most media, and today five dominate the industry: Time Warner, Disney, Murdoch's News Corporation, Bertelsmann of Germany and Viacom. With markets branching rapidly into international territories, these few companies are increasingly responsible for deciding what information is shared around the world.

Edited January 15, 2020 by section122

[Hedge]

Scrub party!

 

 

 

 

 

[Koko78]

3 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

I agree with most of that. I do not know why there cannot be a “just the facts” news, however.

 

Ratings. Few people would regularly watch straight news.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

5 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-elizabeth-warren-is-fraud-and-liar-dems-have-reason-to-be-nervous-about-other-2020-options.amp?__twitter_impression=true
 

Tucker has a point. 

The end of that video is just awesome.

 

 

[B-Man]

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[keepthefaith]

16 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

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Latina unless I missed her identifying as a man. 

[B-Man]