NoSaint Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 15 minutes ago, KD in CA said: Who's the poster who keeps the running tab of all Bills coaches with winning %? I need to see where this stacks up. btw....as long as we're pulling out meaningless stats, McD has made the playoffs an NFL record 100% of his seasons as HC. They bounce back well, and we don’t have a ton of context... but it sure doesn’t feel good that more than once a month the wheels absolutely come off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just in Atlanta Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 This is GREAT news. According to your math, that's once every 3.5 games and 28.6 percent blow outs. Since we've been blown out three times out of four already this season, we only have 1.6 more blowouts left this season. If you round down, it's only ONE more blowout left! Conversely, I count that we've blown out opponents five times in 21 games. That's a 23.8 percent blowout rate and once every 4.2 games . Since we've only blown out one opponent this season, we're due for 2.8 more. Rounding up, that's THREE opponents we're set to blow out. That's a 3 to 1 positive to negative blowout ratio left for the season. If that ratio is indicative of wins/loses, I calculate we'll finish the year with 9.3 more wins and a 10-6 record. I'm buying that Allen jersey after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRA3196 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Back in the 80's we had two seasons of 4-12 before Marv and Polian came in and fixed the franchise. At that time Ralph took a chance on a Coach with a losing record and a GM from the CFL. The Bills have been a punchline and a running joke since SB XXV. Everyone in the league knows that our "playoff run" was a joke last yr. Expecting Beane and McDermott to fix decades of futility in a yr or 2 doesn't make sense. At the start of the season Beane said we were not as far along as some people might think and we were in the 2nd yr of a 3 yr rebuild. Relax let it play out. worst comes to worst Pegula can blow it up next yr or the yr after. The best case scenario is Beane and Co. know what they are doing and some of our draft picks pan out and the Bills are again relevant in the league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 1 hour ago, mead107 said: Loss is a loss. Points don’t matter. Maybe in the standings, but they certainly matter to fans watching the game. This is supposed to be entertainment after all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanbillsfan2206 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 (edited) We overachieved last season and snuck into the playoffs on a miracle play made by another team. I was thinking playoffs again this year but now it’s painfully obvious to me that this is part of the rebuilding plan. At least we should be able to watch the Sabres contend for a playoff spot this season Edited October 1, 2018 by Seanbillsfan2206 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Let’s just say for the sake of argument the games I mean are Saints @ Jets Chargers x2 @ Ravens and yesterday games that feel over before the half. il just go off the top of my head and say for reference the Pats probably haven’t had 6 of them total in the last 17 years. Its just a meaningless metric. A loss is a loss. It counts as one game regardless of the score. And the scores of the Bills games have been lopsided like that because the three quarterbacks McDermott had used have ever been completely negligible like Tyrod or rookie quarterbacks who aren't ready. The Patriots have lost by 20 points or more, my baseline for blowout for your argument 12 times in 17 years and thats with the best quarterback of all time. McDermott is a .500 coach who is likely as good at his job as someone like Marvin Leiws or Doug Marrone. He will be out of a job if Allen ends up a bust, simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epstein's Mother Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 What a difference a week makes. Last week at this time the vast majority a posters were sky high and there was a lot of discussion about how the Bills could go to Lambeau and win. I think it's best to put down the magnifying glass when trying to assess what's going on at OBD and look big picture. 2018 - 54 million in dead cap money 2019 - 2 million in dead cap money The ability to spend roughly 190 million next year compared to 123 million this year is everything I need to know to give Beane more time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, K-GunJimKelly12 said: This is a good post. It's one thing to lose, it's another thing to constantly get your as a handed to you. I am really starting to wonder how much more I can take. Between the game being worse than it ever was and the never ending sucktitude of the Bills, why do I even bother watching. There is a different guy every week throwing 5 or 6 TD's. Four guys are currently on pace to break Peyton Manning's passing record. Refs ate progressively having a larger impact on games. The game is pure trash right now. Goodell has let the actual game on the field go to ****. I think I might be done with the whole thing soon. You and many other fans are fed up. This is the first year I havent had seasons in a long time! I got sick of the kneeling, **** rules, crappy officiating, and over priced everything at the stadium. Last year I dropped right around 8k for 8 regular season games and 2 meaningless pre season games. This year, 1 game, home opener and thats it. I am going to enjoy some Sabres games and fishing Sunday morning! Disclaimer- it wouldn’t of mattered if the amount was even half of 8k- I wasnt doing it again. Edited October 1, 2018 by billsfan_34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpsredemption Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 1 hour ago, JPP said: The combination of Marrone-Rexy & Lynn have less than McB........i believe.....wow......but hey we're rebuilding right...... Yeah the ultimate excuse for shipping away all of your talent and failing to upgrade critical positions around your prized QB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 the blowouts are when the game script doesnt go the Bills way which is get turnovers and have success running the football. It amazes me that they hid Tyrod's deficiencies by sticking with the run game but trot out a rookie qb with the nfl's worst receiving core (by far) and try to be not only a passing team but execute deep concepts behind a garbage OL. Its like they decided lets find the worst offense to run when you have a bad line and slow receivers with no hands. You'd have to try really hard to run worse scheme and particularly some of the playcalls. You have zero speed yet they love to try low % deep passes when Foster not only can seperate but when he's open he continues to drop or not fight for the football. I didn't enjoy the boring Marrone coached games but he knew what he had and how to try and get wins with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VW82 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 I'd be interested to hear McD's response to this. Hopefully someone has the guts to ask the question. Does he tell the truth and pin it on the QBs? Taylor and Peterman had some ugly days last year, same with Allen and Peterman this year. That's the biggest reason for this. I'd be curious to hear what he has to say about the defense though. I can't remember a D that was as boom or bust as it's been under McD. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, Jpsredemption said: Yeah the ultimate excuse for shipping away all of your talent and failing to upgrade critical positions around your prized QB. yup totally agree....other teams recently have done it without sucking for years......ie Rams, Phili.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 27 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Watkins and the "limited" production theory. The guy was a top WR in the league the last half of 2015. Had an injury plagued 2016 and was traded prior to the 2017 season. We are in DIRE need of a guy like Watkins for Allen. Bad trade then and a bad trade now. Not sure I agree with that. He is payed like a future HoF and he doesn’t have the production to back it up. Instantly he is better than everyone we have but again... at what cost. The team is moving away from overpaying players for moderate work and I agree with that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 2 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: That’s not good. We also now are 10-11 under this regime. I was happier then words can describe when we ended the drought last year. It had to be done. The drought was a dark cloud hanging over the Bills and it needed to be destroyed. We all deserved to see the playoffs and McDermott got us there. For the 2017 season alone, I am forever grateful. I also realize this was supposed to be a step back and a“rebuilding year” Still, I cant help but feel concerned. Being blown out in more the 1/4 of your games is not supposed to happen. Losing is one thing. Being non competitive in almost 30% of your games is a whole different animal. Im not sure how that will change. I am willing to give this guy the benefit of the doubt because of last year, but I am growing more nervous by the week. Oh lighten up. Coach is putting this franchise on the right track. It will take some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 I was thinking this watching the game.. We the Bills lose they LOSE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 2 hours ago, ScottLaw said: It wasn't. Fans here and McBeane will make you think everything Whaley did was !@#$ing awful. He wasn't great or even a good GM, but he wasn't awful either and found some solid players to build around. Like who? Serious question. Who did Whaley bring in that you could build around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpsredemption Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 1 hour ago, JPP said: yup totally agree....other teams recently have done it without sucking for years......ie Rams, Phili.... It's hilarious listening to the fans who have bought into "its all about next year when we have all this cash" and last year it was well next year we'll have our franchise QB....always kicking the can down the road to rationalize sucking. So when exactly does this regime put the full court press on and try to win? Last year was an absolute fluke and this year they are comically bad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 20 games. One season +4 games. That’s all we’re giving teams now before OMFG BURN IT DOWN BURN IT ALL DOWN AND SALT THE EARTH. Do something else with that negativity guys. Play some video games, hang out with your kids, learn a musical instrument. Life’s too short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 1 hour ago, DuckyBoys said: the blowouts are when the game script doesnt go the Bills way which is get turnovers and have success running the football. It amazes me that they hid Tyrod's deficiencies by sticking with the run game but trot out a rookie qb with the nfl's worst receiving core (by far) and try to be not only a passing team but execute deep concepts behind a garbage OL. Its like they decided lets find the worst offense to run when you have a bad line and slow receivers with no hands. You'd have to try really hard to run worse scheme and particularly some of the playcalls. You have zero speed yet they love to try low % deep passes when Foster not only can seperate but when he's open he continues to drop or not fight for the football. I didn't enjoy the boring Marrone coached games but he knew what he had and how to try and get wins with it. *receiving corps* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Looking at page 1 alone I can plainly see we hate the coach and GM this week. Is this a football forum or a yoyo forum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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