Augie Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: LOL Feel bad for you.....you would be humping Rosen's leg if he was playing well THAT will certainly get you 15 yards! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Yuuuuuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 8 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: You guys do realize that Josh Rosen looking like trash has nothing to with Josh Allen, correct? It actually has everything to do with prematurely judging rookies. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: You guys do realize that Josh Rosen looking like trash has nothing to with Josh Allen, correct? Wrong. Rosen is teaching a lot of people on this board that rookie QB's playing on bad offenses tend to struggle big time. On top of that it seems like since the day Allen was drafted by Buffalo, there have been a lot of Bills fans complaining that we should have drafted Rosen. It may not be right but a performance like this by Risen does take some of the pessure off Allen. Edited October 19, 2018 by CincyBillsFan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Looking "NFL ready" isn't he? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Rosen is taking a serious beating. Bad teams pick high for QB’s, and are generally teams that lose on the LOS. That’s what makes them bad teams. Maybe there’s merit to building the OLine a bit to save your most important player? Just a thought.... OH, and that might apply to our team! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share Posted October 19, 2018 Just now, CincyBillsFan said: Wrong. Rosen is teaching a lot of people on this board that rookie QB's playing on bad offenses tend to struggle big time. On top of that it seems like since the day he was drafted by Buffalo, there have been a lot of Bills fans complaining that we should have drafted Rosen. It may not be right but a performance like this by Risen does take some of the pessure off Allen. No it doesn't at all. Allen has his own path of development that has nothing to do with Rosen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: No it doesn't at all. Allen has his own path of development that has nothing to do with Rosen. True I mean it's what his 3rd game starting but besides that the only people him stinking it up might take pressure off is the FO for not picking him instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 I can’t imagine this place if Allen had the night Rosen has had. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: No it doesn't at all. Allen has his own path of development that has nothing to do with Rosen. Totally different paths. Two different people, skill sets and situations. But they both need protection and weapons to have any idea what they are capable of. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 If Josh Allen played like Rosen did tonight half this board would be in a nuclear meltdown wanting everyone fired...Arizona is probably going to do just that tomorrow 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: No it doesn't at all. Allen has his own path of development that has nothing to do with Rosen. Disagree, for reasons beyond either QB's control Allen & Rosen are joined at the hip because of the actions of their teams on draft day. Hell, we're posting on a thread titled "The Rosen Era has Begun in Arizona" on a freaking Buffalo Bills message board! That is weird if you think about it. Edited October 19, 2018 by CincyBillsFan 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share Posted October 19, 2018 1 minute ago, CincyBillsFan said: Disagree, for reasons beyond either QB's control Allen & Rosen are joined at the hip because of the actions other teams on draft day. Hell, we're posting on a thread titled "The Rosen Era has Begun in Arizona" on a freaking Buffalo Bills message board! That is weird if you think about it. Weird to you because you're new maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said: Disagree, for reasons beyond either QB's control Allen & Rosen are joined at the hip because of the actions of their teams on draft day. Hell, we're posting on a thread titled "The Rosen Era has Begun in Arizona" on a freaking Buffalo Bills message board! That is weird if you think about it. You should of seen the love the Browns we're getting on this board before the season. That didn't last very long. Edited October 19, 2018 by Lfod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said: I can’t imagine this place if Allen had the night Rosen has had. FULL. BOARD. MELTDOWN. Just now, Lfod said: You should of seen the love the Browns we're getting before the season. That didn't last very long. Hey - they got as many wins this season as they have in the past 2. Pretty impressive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Rosen may have been the “most pro ready” and “throw the best ball”, but he looks like the little JV QB out there against the big boys. It makes me feel better about our guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 12 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said: Wrong. Rosen is teaching a lot of people on this board that rookie QB's playing on bad offenses tend to struggle big time. On top of that it seems like since the day Allen was drafted by Buffalo, there have been a lot of Bills fans complaining that we should have drafted Rosen. It may not be right but a performance like this by Risen does take some of the pessure off Allen. It's not teaching us anything about Josh Allen. I'm really not trying to be "that guy," but the celebration about Rosen struggling is a little creepy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share Posted October 19, 2018 Just now, Augie said: Rosen may have been the “most pro ready” and “throw the best ball”, but he looks like the little JV QB out there against the big boys. It makes me feel better about our guy. It shouldn't. His team is over matched tonight against the DEN DL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 When I lived in SC and people talked about education, they used to say “thank God for Mississippi!” Watching the Cardinals, I feel like that should be the Bills mantra. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Weird to you because you're new maybe. Long time lurker though. My point was just that Bills fans and I suspect Cards fans are going to be comparing Rosen & Allen for as long as both are in the NFL. And for the record I think they'll both have long NFL careers. BTW, why the hell is Rosen still out there? Do they want to get him killed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share Posted October 19, 2018 Just now, CincyBillsFan said: Long time lurker though. My point was just that Bills fans and I suspect Cards fans are going to be comparing Rosen & Allen for as long as both are in the NFL. And for the record I think they'll both have long NFL careers. BTW, why the hell is Rosen still out there? Do they want to get him killed? No point in putting Mike Glennon out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Rosen was hard to watch tonight. This is an ugly game. Allen didn’t look good last week, but I think it could be worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: It's not teaching us anything about Josh Allen. I'm really not trying to be "that guy," but the celebration about Rosen struggling is a little creepy. It may not be teaching us anything about Allen but it sure as hell is calibrating Allen's performance relative to one of the other rookie QB's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: It shouldn't. His team is over matched tonight against the DEN DL. OH, like OUR line hasn’t been outmatched? Given pure protection, I take Rosen today. I’m not sure he’ll last long enough to prove he's better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share Posted October 19, 2018 Just now, Augie said: OH, like OUR line hasn’t been outmatched? Given pure protection, I take Rosen today. I’m not sure he’ll last long enough to prove he's better. The last couple of weeks the Bills OL has been decent. Tonight was a clown show for the ARI OL with both starting Guards out and Von Miller creating havoc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said: It may not be teaching us anything about Allen but it sure as hell is calibrating Allen's performance relative to one of the other rookie QB's. I don't think people understand that the Bills could of picked either Josh. So yes I expect it to spring up in debate. I don't why why they giving you a hard time over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: The last couple of weeks the Bills OL has been decent. Tonight was a clown show for the ARI OL with both starting Guards out and Von Miller creating havoc. Sounds strange since Allen is out, but I question Rosen’s ability to keep taking the beating. Especially with his concussion history. I wish them all good health, and time will tell. Rosen just looks fragile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: The last couple of weeks the Bills OL has been decent. Tonight was a clown show for the ARI OL with both starting Guards out and Von Miller creating havoc. Sure but Rosen also has no escapability from the pocket whatsoever. Which was a known flaw of his coming out of UCLA. That was my biggest concern about him pre-draft. If you can't ever evade pressure you will not survive the NFL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share Posted October 19, 2018 Just now, Augie said: Sounds strange since Allen is out, but I question Rosen’s ability to keep taking the beating. Especially with his concussion history. I wish them all good health, and time will tell. Rosen just looks fragile. 6'4" 226 lbs is fragile? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Bills Fan Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 8 minutes ago, Augie said: When I lived in SC and people talked about education, they used to say “thank God for Mississippi!” Watching the Cardinals, I feel like that should be the Bills mantra. I’m from Mississippi and I have a Masters Degree and a good job with the government. What’s your point? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Lfod said: I don't think people understand that the Bills could of picked either Josh. So yes I expect it to spring up in debate. I don't why why they giving you a hard time over it. You know what? I'm being a hypocrite on this. I constantly bemoan the fact that we didn't draft Mahomes, so it's only fair to revel in Rosen's failure tonight. Rosen had absolutely no chance to throw and zero protection, but overall it's fair game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share Posted October 19, 2018 Just now, HappyDays said: Sure but Rosen also has no escapability from the pocket whatsoever. Which was a known flaw of his coming out of UCLA. That was my biggest concern about him pre-draft. If you can't ever evade pressure you will not survive the NFL. I disagree. He has pocket mobility and maneuverability even though he's no threat to run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: The last couple of weeks the Bills OL has been decent. Tonight was a clown show for the ARI OL with both starting Guards out and Von Miller creating havoc. That's fair and while I think the Cards have a better assortment of receiver options for Rosen then the Bills have for Allen their O-line is clearly inferior to the Bills. But to also be fair the improvement in the Bills O-line play is due to both better play by the Bills linemen and Allen's mobility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 14 minutes ago, Augie said: Rosen may have been the “most pro ready” and “throw the best ball”, but he looks like the little JV QB out there against the big boys. It makes me feel better about our guy. Damn straight. Our boy has "stature." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: I disagree. He has pocket mobility and maneuverability even though he's no threat to run. Really? Every time there was pressure in the pocket he was either sacked, stripped, or threw the ball into the ground on his way down. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: 6'4" 226 lbs is fragile? I’m just watching, and it’s how he looks. The eye test. I find stats for him being lighter, and he looks lighter. But again....time will tell. I think I would have taken him at #7. Edited October 19, 2018 by Augie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share Posted October 19, 2018 Just now, CincyBillsFan said: That's fair and while I think the Cards have a better assortment of receiver options for Rosen then the Bills have for Allen their O-line is clearly inferior to the Bills. But to also be fair the improvement in the Bills O-line play is due to both better play by the Bills linemen and Allen's mobility. Not really. Allen has actually run into sacks on a few occasions and held the ball too long instead of pulling the trigger. The OL has just settled down a bit in the last couple of weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Arizona needs to be scouting the young offensive minded coaches in the league right now and be prepared to make a move this off season and bring in a whole new Coaching Regime that focuses on what’s important. wilks and McCoy are goIng to sabatoge Rosen with their antiquated philosophies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Really? Every time there was pressure in the pocket he was either sacked, stripped, or threw the ball into the ground on his way down. Did you see how fast pressure was coming? No QB is going to escape that. ARI OL vs. DEN DL was a mismatch. Edited October 19, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 5 minutes ago, Southern Bills Fan said: I’m from Mississippi and I have a Masters Degree and a good job with the government. What’s your point? My point is SC had lousy education, but other places produced outstanding examples of higher education who also enhanced their status by being Buffalo Bills fans. What more could you ask for? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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