BringBackOrton Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 (edited) Could anyone be more invisible out there? Yeah, Benjamin is in self-preservation mode and going half speed on half of his plays, but Zay is trying his best. That’s horrific. There is 0.0 chance this guy makes it out of TC next year. We took him over JuJu. Damn. I’d rather have TJ Graham. Edited September 24, 2018 by BringBackOrton 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 (edited) We will need a top FA wr and top draft wr next year Edited September 24, 2018 by JaCrispy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPar_v2 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 God...come on man. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Did I miss him doing something bad today? It seemed like everything worked o.k. on offense, and he even made a catch. I'll take 1 catch in a win any day. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Hyperbole much? Mike Williams? Maybin? Zay isn’t even close.... 9 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: Could anyone be more invisible out there? Yeah, Benjamin is in self-preservation mode and going half speed on half of his plays, but Zay is trying his best. That’s horrific. There is 0.0 chance this guy makes it out of TC next year. We took him over JuJu. Damn. I’d rather have TJ Graham. Can't hit them all. We have three starters from that draft. That's about as much as you can ask for. Plus, there's still time. It's not promising but as Allen develops, he could get better. Edited September 24, 2018 by Buffalo30 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 He has not been good.....but you have a very short memory if you think he is the biggest bust.....PLENTY of 1st round picks have busted out on this team in the past..... Maybin Flowers etc etc 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 1 minute ago, The Frankish Reich said: Did I miss him doing something bad today? It seemed like everything worked o.k. on offense, and he even made a catch. I'll take 1 catch in a win any day. He didn’t get many plays, it seemed, but he did have one important catch. Certainly not a big day, but I won’t throw in the towel yet. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted September 24, 2018 Author Share Posted September 24, 2018 Just now, Buffalo30 said: Can't hit them all. We have three starters from that draft. That's about as much as you can ask for There was a time where we had 3 starters from the 2013 draft. And 3 from the 2014 draft. And 2 from the 2015 draft. And 2 from the 2016 draft. And guess how many of those guys are on the Bills now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 How silly! A 2nd round pick in his 2nd season for the Bills is the biggest bust in living memory. 3 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted September 24, 2018 Author Share Posted September 24, 2018 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: He has not been good.....but you have a very short memory if you think he is the biggest bust.....PLENTY of 1st round picks have busted out on this team in the past..... Maybin Flowers etc etc In living memory. No one cares about 1st round busts from 1975. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 He was open A LOT last week. Juju is a killer but I’m not ready to throw the towel in on Zay yet 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 (edited) Phew. I was worried the sky wasn’t falling. Edited September 24, 2018 by BeginnersMind 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice_32 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 It's Maybin, hands down. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorpma Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 7 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: Could anyone be more invisible out there? Yeah, Benjamin is in self-preservation mode and going half speed on half of his plays, but Zay is trying his best. That’s horrific. There is 0.0 chance this guy makes it out of TC next year. We took him over JuJu. Damn. I’d rather have TJ Graham. Says who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 1 minute ago, BringBackOrton said: In living memory. No one cares about 1st round busts from 1975. ?? I didnt realize you were 15 years old.....I will try to take that into account 3 12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 1 minute ago, BringBackOrton said: There was a time where we had 3 starters from the 2013 draft. And 3 from the 2014 draft. And 2 from the 2015 draft. And 2 from the 2016 draft. And guess how many of those guys are on the Bills now. Not all of those guys were busts, they just aren't on the team anymore. Dawkins, Milano and White are pretty solid young players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinTheMagician Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 (edited) Keep Zay, but Benjamin and Foster can go. Bring back Brandon Reilly!!!! Dude played with broken ribs in preseason and still caught the ball. Edited September 24, 2018 by MarlinTheMagician Typo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 1 minute ago, BringBackOrton said: In living memory. No one cares about 1st round busts from 1975. Since you've excluded Maybin, 1st rounder in 2009, I take it you are 9 years old. And somehow that's not surprising to me. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Just now, Augie said: He didn’t get many plays, it seemed, but he did have one important catch. Certainly not a big day, but I won’t throw in the towel yet. He caught his only target for 17 yards and it was an important catch for a first down fairly early in the game. It also seemed like Zay got a limited amount of snaps as the team seemed to be rotating receivers to keep everyone fresh. Only WR that I saw consistently out there was Benjamin. He wasn't a factor out there but it wasn't like the team was throwing a lot after they built the lead either. Zay hasn't crushed it but he had a big play against the Chargers and he seems to be consistently working it out there. I wouldn't throw in the towel on him just yet. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinTheMagician Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Brandon Reilly = heart, hands and the instinct for how to get open. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted September 24, 2018 Author Share Posted September 24, 2018 5 minutes ago, Buffalo30 said: Not all of those guys were busts, they just aren't on the team anymore. Dawkins, Milano and White are pretty solid young players. If they weren’t good enough to be re-signed here, they weren’t good enough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Just now, MarlinTheMagician said: Brandon Reilly = heart, hands and the instinct for how to get open. Your know, I'm always here defending all the Chris Hogan haters when they surface a couple times a year. But sometimes they have a point about WSPMC* *WhiteSkillPositionManCrush 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, MarlinTheMagician said: Brandon Reilly = heart, hands and the instinct for how to get open. kind of like Hogan. But not as fast obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 12 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: Could anyone be more invisible out there? Yeah, Benjamin is in self-preservation mode and going half speed on half of his plays, but Zay is trying his best. That’s horrific. There is 0.0 chance this guy makes it out of TC next year. We took him over JuJu. Damn. I’d rather have TJ Graham. Your poor memory is not any reason to brag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 EJ is the biggest bust the Bills have had. The guy was the single worst qb in the nfl for most of his time on the team and was the first qb drafted that year. Zay does suck so far though. It’s a shame knowing we had Sammy, Hogan, Woods and Goodwin all together...kept none and did nothing when we had them. That’s a testament to just how bad our passing games were with Tyrod. The only QB that used them was Orton. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Just now, Limeaid said: Your poor memory is not any reason to brag. In living memory, he said. Maybe he's one of those "woke up from a 20 year coma" medical mysteries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vorpma Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 9 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: In living memory. No one cares about 1st round busts from 1975. You must be new! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, Augie said: He didn’t get many plays, it seemed, but he did have one important catch. Certainly not a big day, but I won’t throw in the towel yet. I'm not giving up on him. But I am troubled by his lack of presence. He's invisible on offense. My concern about him is not his ability to catch the ball (as compared to Foster) but his ability to get open and gain separation. Although Benjamin is more of a factor as a receiver I am more bothered about him than even Zay. He seems to have a lackadaisical attitude that is very much evident when the ball is not going to him. If I had to bet whether Benjamin or Zay would be more likely to be on our roster next year my money would be on Zay. I'm really rooting for Zay to do well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Just now, The Frankish Reich said: In living memory, he said. Maybe he's one of those "woke up from a 20 year coma" medical mysteries. I was thinking CTE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 7 minutes ago, MarlinTheMagician said: Brandon Reilly = heart, hands and the instinct for how to get open. Mrs Reilly, 32 NFL GMs can’t be wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 He can't get open unless the scheme does it for him and he can't win contested catches. He's a bust. Not an all time bust since he's just a 2nd rounder but considering we traded up what else can you say? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted September 24, 2018 Author Share Posted September 24, 2018 1 minute ago, BeginnersMind said: Mrs Reilly, 32 NFL GMs can’t be wrong. They were about Hogan. They were about Tony Romo. What a bad take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 1 minute ago, JohnC said: I'm not giving up on him. But I am troubled by his lack of presence. He's invisible on offense. My concern about him is not his ability to catch the ball (as compared to Foster) but his ability to get open and gain separation. Although Benjamin is more of a factor as a receiver I am more bothered about him than even Zay. He seems to have a lackadaisical attitude that is very much evident when the ball is not going to him. If I had to bet whether Benjamin or Zay would be more likely to be on our roster next year my money would be on Zay. I'm really rooting for Zay to do well. Zay would be cheaper, for sure. I just want to give us another 5-10 games and see how this shakes out. Look at week 1, then look at week 3. We really don’t know who we are or what we have yet. Fortunately, the trend is awesome at the moment! 2 minutes ago, HappyDays said: He can't get open unless the scheme does it for him and he can't win contested catches. He's a bust. Not an all time bust since he's just a 2nd rounder but considering we traded up what else can you say? Use the Patriots (pick) schemes, if we must. It’s not like REAL cheating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 The OP is PWI (Posting While Impaired). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: They were about Hogan. They were about Tony Romo. What a bad take. Reilly. Ignored by NFL GMs for 3 straight seasons. Hogan was decent even with Bills. Reilly can’t beat out Foster. That’s about all we need to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 25 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: Could anyone be more invisible out there? Yeah, Benjamin is in self-preservation mode and going half speed on half of his plays, but Zay is trying his best. That’s horrific. There is 0.0 chance this guy makes it out of TC next year. We took him over JuJu. Damn. I’d rather have TJ Graham. Um, he's leading the Bills in receptions and yards. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Grab Sanu in FA. Draft a wide receiver high. Zay needs to be a slot guy and he is going to be fine. Zay isn’t going to be a perennial 1000 yard receiver. He can be decent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, aceman_16 said: The OP is PWI (Posting While Impaired). White guy love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted September 24, 2018 Author Share Posted September 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said: Reilly. Ignored by NFL GMs for 3 straight seasons. Hogan was decent even with Bills. Reilly can’t beat out Foster. That’s about all we need to know. Hogan could barely get a sniff in the NFL and six years later he set a receiving record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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