Steelers listening to trade offers for Leveon Bell

[Chuck Wagon]

I think they'll deal him.  A team can pay him over the franchise level this year.  I think he'll get traded to someone who'll bring him in above the franchise tag number as part of a wink wink agreement on an extension.

 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

On 9/23/2018 at 4:29 PM, /dev/null said:

Benjamin would have to compete for the Steelers #3 WR spot

 

 Not even sure he makes that roster.  Juju, AB, Washington are locks. They traded for and apparently like Switzer, last spot(s) usually need special teams value. 

[YoloinOhio]

7 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

 

 Not even sure he makes that roster.  Juju, AB, Washington are locks. They traded for and apparently like Switzer, last spot(s) usually need special teams value. 

The Switzer trade pisses me off. Bills couldn’t offer Chucky more than the Steelers, while awash with WR talent get him for a 5th (and a 6th back in return)?

Edited September 25, 2018 by YoloinOhio

[Simon Says]

Do you realize the cap implications? Bills cant even afford to PAY Bell this year, much less eat the dead cap  money from  your fantasy trades of McCoy and/or Benjamin

[Doc Brown]

Here's hoping the Jets give up two 1st round picks for him and then he signs with the Packers next season.

[Best Player Available]

1 hour ago, Mat68 said:

The end of the day you would hold the cards.  You could franchise him with the intentions of a long term deal.

He does not have to sign it though. 

2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

He could go to the Jets if they tell his agent they will sign him long-term for whatever he would demand in FA. They have the cap space to do it. He could be back in green and white. 

This morning they said the Jets  have interest. And dangling a thrid round pick only.

[YoloinOhio]

10 minutes ago, Best Player Available said:

He does not have to sign it though. 

This morning they said the Jets  have interest. And dangling a thrid round pick only.

I think a third is generous. I heard a 5th could get it done.

[Pete]

3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

The Switzer trade pisses me off. Bills couldn’t offer Chucky more than the Steelers, while awash with WR talent get him for a 5th (and a 6th back in return)?

agreed.  This Bills front office seems to have no clue about WR.  We traded up for Zay, costing us picks 44 and 91, instead of drafting JuJu, we traded a 3rd for KB, we traded a 7th for Coleman, wasted a 7th for Proel.  What is the plan at WR?  I am campaigning for Anthony Johnson.  Don't neglect WR next draft Beane

[Starr Almighty]

4 hours ago, Dr. Football said:

I don’t think the Steelers want him back this year, they are getting great production out of Conner at a small fraction of the cost. Why pay 800,000$ a game when you can pay 600,000$ for a whole year of Conner. Don’t be shocked if they release him, even if it means losing out on a third round comp pick next year. 

he had 17 yards in week 2 and 61 yesterday. Where is this great production you speak of?

[0017]

15 minutes ago, Starr Almighty said:

he had 17 yards in week 2 and 61 yesterday. Where is this great production you speak of?

190 total yards 2 tds game 1 

65 total yards 1 td game 2 

95 total yards game 3 

 

His production is not far off what they get from bell game to game, sure bell is a great rb but it’s not a huge drop off. 

[formerlyofCtown]

On 9/23/2018 at 6:28 PM, Buffalo86 said:

 

Bell wouldn't accept a trade without a new deal being worked out.  He'd go Darwin Walker.

Not exactly sure how it works but he can't negotiate a new contract.  The deadline has past.  It may just be that he can't negotiate with the Stealers.

[Starr Almighty]

7 minutes ago, Dr. Football said:

190 total yards 2 tds game 1 

65 total yards 1 td game 2 

95 total yards game 3 

 

His production is not far off what they get from bell game to game, sure bell is a great rb but it’s not a huge drop off. 

Have you ever seen Bell play? He gets close to 200 yards a game most of the time. 65 total yards lol 

Edited September 25, 2018 by Starr Almighty

[YodaMan79]

3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

I think a third is generous. I heard a 5th could get it done.

 

And to think multiple mouth breathers here think McCoy could garner anything higher than a 6th rd pick at this point.  Why would any team give up such an asset to have the privilege to pay a guy 15-16 million per year?  RB is a commodity position, for 1/5 the price you can get 90% the production.     

Edited September 25, 2018 by YodaMan79

[Starr Almighty]

3 minutes ago, YodaMan79 said:

 

And to think multiple mouth breathers here think McCoy could garner anything higher than a 6th rd pick at this point.  Why would any team give up such an asset to have the privilege to pay a guy 15-16 million per year?  RB in a commodity position, for 1/5 the price you can get 90% the production.     

I'd give them shady and a 5th for Bell if they'd take it. Mostly because of age. 

Edited September 25, 2018 by Starr Almighty

[JMF2006]

Do the Bills even have 14 to 15m in cap room?

 

Thats what would be required for the franchise tag.

 

Then this guy wants QB money long term

 

Thats a big no for this team.

 

I don't think Beane would want this guy at that price.

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

2 minutes ago, JMF2006 said:

Do the Bills even have 14 to 15m in cap room?

 

Thats what would be required for the franchise tag.

 

Then this guy wants QB money long term

 

Thats a big no for this team.

 

I don't think Beane would want this guy at that price.

 

...seriously doubt he would ever put that type of crazy money into one player...just a thought..............

[YodaMan79]

6 minutes ago, Starr Almighty said:

Have you ever seen Bell play? He gets close to 200 yards a game most of the time. 65 total yards lol 

 

 

He had a good year, but I think 200 yards most games is a stretch.  He's not worth it on multiple fronts.

[Starr Almighty]

1 minute ago, YodaMan79 said:

 

 

He had a good year, but I think 200 yards most games is a stretch.  He's not worth it on multiple fronts.

After the 1st 4 games look at his stats. Remember he sat out and pouted like a child last year too and had a slow start. He hits 180 a lot that's why I said close.

[SouthNYfan]

10 minutes ago, YodaMan79 said:

 

 

He had a good year, but I think 200 yards most games is a stretch.  He's not worth it on multiple fronts.

 

"Pittsburgh Steelers running back Le’Veon Bell played in his 55^th game on Sunday. He also reached 7000 total yards from scrimmage in the game. The only other person to have ever reached the mark as fast was the great, Hall of Fame running back Eric Dickerson."

 

"Just so we are clear on this, 7000 yards is a lot. And 55 games is not a lot to get that many. In order to total 7000 yards from scrimmage in 55 games, one has to average over 127 yards from scrimmage per game, which is an exceptional pace to maintain over what is the equivalent of nearly three and a half full seasons"

 

https://steelersdepot.com/2017/11/leveon-bell-ties-eric-dickerson-fastest-player-7000-scrimmage-yards/

 

bell averaged 130 yards from scrimmage last year.

Connor is averaging 113 through 3 games.

I'll bet Connor doesn't hold that pace.

Bell is really good.

Edited September 25, 2018 by SouthNYfan

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

The Switzer trade pisses me off. Bills couldn’t offer Chucky more than the Steelers, while awash with WR talent get him for a 5th (and a 6th back in return)?

 

Agreed rayray is as close to him as we’ve seen and Switzers hands are great 

[YodaMan79]

And two years older when he suits up for his new team.  Football while not fair pays for future production, not past.  Baseball and basketball teams dig themselves in deep holes with unproductive players/dead weight.  He's getting really bad advice from his representation.  He will not be able recoup the money he's losing this year, even if he signs a top line deal in 2019.  

 

My Bills wish list:  Draft Wisconsin linemen and their RB.  We'll be saying Le'Veon who?

[0017]

56 minutes ago, Starr Almighty said:

Have you ever seen Bell play? He gets close to 200 yards a game most of the time. 65 total yards lol 

47 total yards at Cleveland last year for bell lol ? 

 

I’m not saying Conner is as good as bell at this stage in his career, but for the money he’s being paid it makes way more sense to cut ties with bell and save the money going forward, and I think that’s what they do. 

[billsfan_34]

On 9/23/2018 at 4:23 PM, YoloinOhio said:

Josh Allen would be too. Get the kid a real WR please.

I would love AJ Green in a Bills Uni- personally, I think he is the best in the league, just my opinion.

[aristocrat]

58 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said:

 

"Pittsburgh Steelers running back Le’Veon Bell played in his 55^th game on Sunday. He also reached 7000 total yards from scrimmage in the game. The only other person to have ever reached the mark as fast was the great, Hall of Fame running back Eric Dickerson."

 

"Just so we are clear on this, 7000 yards is a lot. And 55 games is not a lot to get that many. In order to total 7000 yards from scrimmage in 55 games, one has to average over 127 yards from scrimmage per game, which is an exceptional pace to maintain over what is the equivalent of nearly three and a half full seasons"

 

https://steelersdepot.com/2017/11/leveon-bell-ties-eric-dickerson-fastest-player-7000-scrimmage-yards/

 

bell averaged 130 yards from scrimmage last year.

Connor is averaging 113 through 3 games.

I'll bet Connor doesn't hold that pace.

Bell is really good.

 

Wait til he goes to the jets and tears us up and we all get pissed.  Bell would be our leading wr.

[ndirish1978]

Bell's running style is predicated on patience and waiting for his awesome O-line to open up holes for him to run through. Patience with our O-line would just result in a wave of defenders swarming him for a 4 yard loss.

[SouthNYfan]

8 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

 

Wait til he goes to the jets and tears us up and we all get pissed.  Bell would be our leading wr.

 

Exactly.

This dude is putting up numbers as good or better than the greatest RBs in league history have put up, and people are like "oh connor can replace him, no bigs"

please.

dude is a legit star.

[Matt_In_NH]

14 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

 

Wait til he goes to the jets and tears us up and we all get pissed.  Bell would be our leading wr.

trading for him is a short term proposition though, no new contract can be negotiated til after the year so its a half year rental.  His demands wont change and I dont think he cares who pays him, he wants the most money he can get.  No reason to think he will be loyal to a team that pays a 5th rounder for him

[aristocrat]

7 minutes ago, mattynh said:

trading for him is a short term proposition though, no new contract can be negotiated til after the year so its a half year rental.  His demands wont change and I dont think he cares who pays him, he wants the most money he can get.  No reason to think he will be loyal to a team that pays a 5th rounder for him

 

Then we franchise him or transition tag him or trade him. Or sign him. 

[Matt_In_NH]

Just now, aristocrat said:

 

Then we franchise him or transition tag him or trade him. Or sign him. 

Hes been tagged two years already...are you paying attention to the situation with the Steelers?  LOL

Edited September 26, 2018 by mattynh

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

1 hour ago, YodaMan79 said:

And two years older when he suits up for his new team.  Football while not fair pays for future production, not past.  Baseball and basketball teams dig themselves in deep holes with unproductive players/dead weight.  He's getting really bad advice from his representation.  He will not be able recoup the money he's losing this year, even if he signs a top line deal in 2019.  

 

My Bills wish list:  Draft Wisconsin linemen and their RB.  We'll be saying Le'Veon who?

Quote

 

Wisconsin linemen and RB should be a no brainer.

[Bing Bong]

I'd trade for him in a hot minute. Dude doesn't need an offensive line to ball. Idk how it works, but if we get him on a franchise tag first year , doesn't hit CAP right? Resign him with all the fat stacks everyone's saying we'll have next year.

 

We could line him up at WR every down and he'd be our best WR by a long shot

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

If they use Bell like the Saints use Kamara then he is worth the money and a 3 rd rd pick easy.

[aristocrat]

20 minutes ago, mattynh said:

Hes been tagged two years already...are you paying attention to the situation with the Steelers?  LOL

 

And we have 90 mil in space so we use up 20 mil on him. We sign him to a deal or let him negotiate with other teams. He’s not turning down 20 mil to play 

[YodaMan79]

11 hours ago, aristocrat said:

 

And we have 90 mil in space so we use up 20 mil on him. We sign him to a deal or let him negotiate with other teams. He’s not turning down 20 mil to play 

 

 

Sure! That's really a good idea.  Seeing how no other team has given a RB quarterback money.  ?

Tackles and top tier DEs are where you want to spend your money.  The Bills have paid McCoy top RB money the past couple of years, it's not worth it. 

 

 

[aristocrat]

19 minutes ago, YodaMan79 said:

 

Sure! That's really a good idea.  Seeing how no other team has given a RB quarterback money.  ?

Tackles and top tier DEs are where you want to spend your money.  The Bills have paid McCoy top RB money the past couple of years, it's not worth it. 

 

 

 

what will you say when the jets sign him and he continues his pace of around 2000 all purpose yards for a few years?  they will win a lot of games with the big run game he brings and his receiving game. now imagine having an offense like the saints had last year with two 1000 yard backs in the backfield plus two guys that catch passes as well.  We need weapons around Josh and hes the best weapon that is available out there.  You act like it's your money to spend.  We've spent big money on lesser talented players in the past. Remember what Mario did to our defensive line when he came? Bell is better and would have a bigger impact on our offense. 

[T master]

Can't say as i blame them the guy is all about him & could care less about any one of his team mates that is the one thing i don't like about the new NFL i get wanting to get paid but when is enough enough ??

 

$14 million to play one year !! If these guys would live with in their means that & what he has made to this point would last a life time but because they have to buy the Lambo & the $90 mill house & take care of all of the friends that come out of the wood work to party with them they blow it like TO did ! 

 

I can't imagine making $80 Mill in a career & being broke that's just plain ignorants !! 

[Mat68]

Buffalo has one of the better cap scenarios going forward and can afford a hefty contract.  Buffalo is not a high FA destination for numerous reason.  They may be better off bringing a guy in and selling him for a season.  

12 hours ago, T master said:

Can't say as i blame them the guy is all about him & could care less about any one of his team mates that is the one thing i don't like about the new NFL i get wanting to get paid but when is enough enough ??

 

$14 million to play one year !! If these guys would live with in their means that & what he has made to this point would last a life time but because they have to buy the Lambo & the $90 mill house & take care of all of the friends that come out of the wood work to party with them they blow it like TO did ! 

 

I can't imagine making $80 Mill in a career & being broke that's just plain ignorants !! 

At the same time Pitts used Bell and a very high rate.  He was a 2nd rd pick so he is not making top money for his position.  Yes he would be making 14 mil this year only.  If he gets hurt he misses out on a large some of money.  The fact they offered him a 6 year deal with 10 mil guaranteed is laughable and Bell is right to hold out.  He wants some security like anybody else would.  

[Bing Bong]

GET HIM. Line him up at WR. Boom, we have all the skill set we need at WR/RB we need overnight.

 

And no I do not know if this is even remotely possible

[Rob's House]

I don't think this guy's worth anywhere near what he's asking for and I don't think he's going to get it. He's good, but he plays a position that doesn't command top pay and has a short shelf-life. He was lucky to have the opportunity to get tagged again and he'll most likely regret this move as much as any team that comes close to meeting his demands will regret doing so.

[JAMIEBUF12]

I can’t believe how many people are so quick to just trade Shady.The guy is our runningback and finially has embraced being a Bill even though his heart is in Philly...The Bills have a build through the draft plan and I doubt part of it is trade draft picks for high priced veterans after being on the edge of being out of cap jail....GO BILLS!!!