Every throw from Josh Allen’s 1st start

[starrymessenger]

2 hours ago, K-9 said:

Dude is strong. I didn’t realize how many steps he dragged Ingraham on his first INT. 

 

You mean Laura. What was she doing on the field? Hitching a ride on Josh's back? I must have missed that. 

[BeginnersMind]

1 hour ago, Fadingpain said:

Watching all his throws one on top of the other, you appreciate just how wild and unpredictable his accuracy is.

 

His big pass to Zay Jones (that Jones bobbled and almost dropped) was under thrown by 10 yards.  It was so badly thrown that the DB was out of position by the time the ball arrived and on top of it, the DB decided to stop playing defense for a while.  Very strange play.  If that throw is repeated 9 more times, it is probably intercepted 5 times.

 

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This doesn't kill your credibility but it shows some awful bias. He couldn't throw when Jones raised his hand because he was moving. Then he had to do a quick set and throw out of his movement to his left, which would affect his accuracy on, wait for it, a ball that traveled 64 yards in the air. 

 

If he had hit that throw in stride, it would be the throw of the last 20 years for a Bills QB. 

 

He has to fix his accuracy issues for sure, but he was not "all over the place.". He was under constant pressure, behind the entire game, and playing tight. This entire season is a classroom. Let's see if he can improve. It's going to be a few years to see if he gets there. I was OK with his performance. All I want from him week to week this year is to finish the game, which means he didn't have a disaster. He has a lot of the right pieces. 

1 hour ago, zow2 said:

Yeah i liked the TD pass and catch.  Too many people are trying to tell me today that Allen racked up all his stats in a garbage time drive and one under-thrown ball to Zay. 

 

 

 

He did underthrow him, but watch that again. It's a tougher throw. 

[KD in CA]

After one start, my expectations are that I wish we could swap the other 10 offensive starters with Kansas City.

[dickleyjones]

my take is that the game is a little too fast for Allen right now. he said so himself during preseason.  some practice in real games should get it all to slow down. 

[John from Riverside]

2 minutes ago, dickleyjones said:

my take is that the game is a little too fast for Allen right now. he said so himself during preseason.  some practice in real games should get it all to slow down. 

Agreed...I think Josh is gonna settle down as the season goes on and hit his stride.....this year of starting even on a bad team is going to be good for him going into next season.

[BeginnersMind]

17 minutes ago, KD in CA said:

After one start, my expectations are that I wish we could swap the other 10 offensive starters with Kansas City.

 

What team would you not say that about? We'd give up Shady in that deal but the balance of the other 9 would far outweigh the that loss.

Edited September 17, 2018 by BeginnersMind

[RobbRiddick]

31 minutes ago, 2003Contenders said:

There was plenty to like and plenty to dislike in the performance yesterday. The sample size is simply too small to come up with a genuine evaluation going forward. And guess, what? That sample size will still be too small after next week and the week after. The kid is going to need time to develop -- not only because he is a rookie and everyone needs to be patient, but because he also has a horrible supporting cast.

 

I look back at our last two first-round QBs.

 

1. Losman. From day one, he never looked ready. The stage seemed too large for him, and he had that proverbial deer-in-the-headlights look. But the arm talent and athleticism seemed to be there, so I kept hoping that over time, he would improve but he never appreciably did. He had flaws (ability to read a defense, poor accuracy, etc.) that he never corrected, and that deer-in-the-headlights syndrome never went away. Say what you will about Allen and any shortcomings he displayed in yesterday's game, but he never had that "Where the heck am I?" look that we saw all to often with Losman.

 

2. It is easy to forget that EJ actually looked halfway decent in his first two starts (against the Pats and Panthers) respectively. The problem is that those first two games would represent more of a high-water mark for him rather than the start of something great. The QB position is the most unique position in all of sports. You really have to be born to play the position -- all the while improving your craft as you go along. EJ had all of the physical traits and by all accounts he is a bright guy with leadership qualities. But for whatever reason, these ingredients never meshed to make him a natural QB. Everything always seemed so rehearsed and unnatural. Again, with Allen yesterday he did look very natural standing in the pocket.

 

So there is hope. He clearly has all of the physical tools. I also like that he also seemed confident and did not panic while standing in the pocket. If he can correct the deficiencies, then we have something special here. Time will tell whether he will be able to improve in those areas -- but after one, seriously ONE, NFL start it is hard for me to understand why anyone would be CONCERNED. Progress is the key here. As long as we see progression, even if they are baby steps, there is plenty of reason for optimism. Anyone who can't see that either has a silly agenda to root against the kid -- or has unreasonable expectations about what he should be able to do this early in his career.

Agreed. He made mistakes but seemed to shrug them off, blame himself and then move on. That's what the good/great QBs do and that is what gives me hope. 

 

I also agree he has great stature back there and didn't look panicked, even when they were knocking hell out of him. 

[John from Riverside]

1 hour ago, Fadingpain said:

Watching all his throws one on top of the other, you appreciate just how wild and unpredictable his accuracy is.

LOL coming from you.....just LOL

1 hour ago, Fadingpain said:

 

It is all over the place.  

 

I thought the best ball he threw all game was the fairly long pass to Charles Clay on the Chargers 20 yard line.  Clay was wide open by at least 5 yards and standing still when Allen threw the ball, and he threw a strike.  That is the type of wide open, standing receiver Tyrod would throw to as well.

 

His big pass to Zay Jones (that Jones bobbled and almost dropped) was under thrown by 10 yards.  It was so badly thrown that the DB was out of position by the time the ball arrived and on top of it, the DB decided to stop playing defense for a while.  Very strange play.  If that throw is repeated 9 more times, it is probably intercepted 5 times.

Seriously ALL QBS DO THIS......I honestly dont get why YOU dont get that....you ignore QB play by the rest of the league where QBs make these throws and their WR's are required to make a play on a ball that is area code accurate.......ALL QBS THROW THESE KIND OF PASSES

1 hour ago, Fadingpain said:

 

Even on short dump offs, ball placement is just awkward enough to make the receiver work to catch the ball and often have to be put off stride or off balance in order to make the catch.  A few throws featured such awkward (but perhaps catchable) ball placement that the receiver in fact did not catch the ball.

SOME of the throws were like this....there were also balls that were decently accurate and dropped

1 hour ago, Fadingpain said:

 

Folks around here are not seeing what is on the field yet.  That is because we are desperate for a Messiah, we know we gave up a lot of value to get Josh, and we can see he is big and has a strong arm.  He looks the part of a real QB.

Your typical hogwash

1 hour ago, Fadingpain said:

 

Eventually, his accuracy issues, inability to read defenses, hesitation in throwing, and unwillingness to throw receivers open or anticipate open receivers before they are open will catch up to him.

Or he is gonna get better with more playing time or maybe even with better pass catching targets (ours are bad) next year?  A much more realistic look then your punchbowl piss

1 hour ago, Fadingpain said:

 

It took a while for most folks here to want to replace Tyrod too.  

A totally different situation.....Josh Allen pulls the trigger and is willing to work from the pocket when there actually is one.

1 hour ago, Fadingpain said:

 

Josh needs to greatly improve the weaknesses in his game, and the narrative that he had already addressed them with improved footwork is not accurate IMO.

Just like every rookie QB that is currently playing.  And he already looks much better then he did at Wyoming

1 hour ago, Fadingpain said:

 

 

 

 

 

[starrymessenger]

1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

Daboll also borrowed the misdirection hand off to the WR from the Rams. Worked pretty well with Foster.

[DuckyBoys]

To be fair you have a rookie qb playing a much better team.  He's being asked to move the team pretty much on his own  Running game is non existent  Easy chunk plays nowhere to be found He missed some throws forced some balls leading to two preventable picks and a sack or two was probably on him for holding onto the ball.  On the plus side he looked calm and composed in the pocket.  He didnt check one read and immediately check down regardless of down and distance.  He fit or tried to fit some balls into tight window.  He also broke away from sure sacks for just about any qb on several plays.  The two really bad throws to me we both rolling out  One to DiMarco that he makes a great effort to haul in and the one rolling to his left to Peters.  Lets take a deep breath and watch and see  I'm sure were going to see some bumps and knocks.  People have been calling for a round 1 qb for the Bills for over a decade  Give it a chance

[Foxx]

2 minutes ago, starrymessenger said:

 

Daboll also borrowed the misdirection hand off to the WR from the Rams. Worked pretty well with Foster.

again, this may have just been a miscommunication. outside shoulder as opposed to an inside shoulder throw.

 

actually, referring to the post you quoted. bad form on my part.

Edited September 17, 2018 by Foxx

[starrymessenger]

1 minute ago, Foxx said:

again, this may have just been a miscommunication. outside shoulder as opposed to an inside shoulder throw.

 

We're not talking about the same play (probably I didn't describe it very well). I'm referring to the WR sweep left to right just behind the line where the QB just sort of drops the ball and the WR grabs it and looks to take it upfield usually outside the numbers. I saw Goff do it (don't recall who the WR was, maybe Woodsie, and the execution was better/more fluid). I though Foster did ok on that play.

[Foxx]

3 minutes ago, starrymessenger said:

 

We're not talking about the same play (probably I didn't describe it very well). I'm referring to the WR sweep left to right just behind the line where the QB just sort of drops the ball and the WR grabs it and looks to take it upfield usually outside the numbers. I saw Goff do it (don't recall who the WR was, maybe Woodsie, and the execution was better/more fluid). I though Foster did ok on that play.

yeah, i edited my post to explain what post i was referring to. you probably had the thread open before my edit explaining as much. apologies.

[Jay_Fixit]

Of all the throws he made, the one to Murphy was the one that bothered me the most. He just lobbed it when it should have been a dart. That was a QB aiming it instead of throwing it.

 

 

 

[DuckyBoys]

31 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said:

Of all the throws he made, the one to Murphy was the one that bothered me the most. He just lobbed it when it should have been a dart. That was a QB aiming it instead of throwing it.

 

 

 

He might no trust Murphy's receiving skills  He had a drop or two during the game  Don't know how he catches in practice  I would think a young qb might have a tendency to baby passes to guys once they drop a few

[ThunderGun]

QBs miss throws, it happens... Stafford missed so many vs the Niners yesterday, definitely should’ve been a W for the Lions.  Same for Ryan in the opener vs Philly... Considering what Allen has to work with (or lack thereof) and the fact that he has no comfort level or trust in his OL, it’s silly to make any prognostications about his future.

 

I’m more worried about the way they are handling his development.  Pegulas should step in and “highly recommend” McDermott being Jordan Palmer on board, whatever the cost.

Edited September 17, 2018 by ThunderGun

[HappyDays]

4 hours ago, Foxx said:

previously i was critical of Josh's second interception. after watching all the throws, i may be off in that estimation. while his footwork was not perfect, it may have been more of a miscommunication with the receiver. you can see Josh throws it where had the receiver broke out instead of up, he would have probably hit the receiver.

 

Josh owned the 2nd pick at his presser. Said it was just a bad ball. That one and the miss to Murphy in the flat were the most frustrating. Those are the throws he will need to make consistently to succeed in this league.

[Foxx]

Just now, HappyDays said:

 

Josh owned the 2nd pick at his presser. Said it was just a bad ball. That one and the miss to Murphy in the flat were the most frustrating. Those are the throws he will need to make consistently to succeed in this league.

thanks. so it was a miscommunication on Josh's end then, the receiver made the right break and Josh read the wrong one. these types of reads should be easy to correct.

[Reks Ryan]

IMO he only had 3 really bad passes.   The 2 picks and the one where lobbed it over and behind Murphy's head.    Going back and watching the game again, Allen played well given the score, the team around him,  and being his first start.   His final stats for the game, including sacks & rushing yardage were representative of how he played.   I am more optimistic about JA than I was 1 month ago.    

 

He has a long way to go, but this is a guy who actually has the ability to put up 300 yard games,  which has been unbelievably rare for the Bills the last 20 years.  Hopefully he shows enough promise and consistency by the end of the year, that some receivers will want to come to Buffalo.

 

And wow, was the defense awful in the first half.   It's hard to imagine that the defense would be that terrible for the 1st 6 quarters of the year.  

[starrymessenger]

2 hours ago, Jay_Fixit said:

Of all the throws he made, the one to Murphy was the one that bothered me the most. He just lobbed it when it should have been a dart. That was a QB aiming it instead of throwing it.

 

 

 

 

Yeah. Both his feet were off the ground when he released the ball. Crazy stuff. It's the kind of thing that drove some analysts to distraction.

[Kelly the Dog]

42 minutes ago, starrymessenger said:

 

Yeah. Both his feet were off the ground when he released the ball. Crazy stuff. It's the kind of thing that drove some analysts to distraction.

To me that one was awful but easy to see what happened. You literally never ever practice what Josh did. Roll to your left and throw a 10 yard lob way up in the air. It was just a simple error and something he isn't likely to do. He saw Murphy wide wide open, and instead of throwing it on a line which he would have done if he were covered, or taking a little off and throwing it like a swing pass which he did 3-4 times with success in the game, he just decided to lob it out there because no one was near him, and he just overcompensated and blew it. It was just a dumb decision to throw a pass like you never ever throw. A lot of quarterbacks will say sometimes when a guy is uncovered it isn't as easy as it looks because you are thinking I can't possibly blow this, can I? And it plays games with you. To me it's easily explainable and nothing to do with his inaccuracy, which was a small problem in the game. In fact, two of his completions were a bigger accuracy issue than that fluke play. 

[Domdab99]

After watching this, a few thoughts:

 

This kid has got it all. Give him a year. a half-decent OL and a couple of good receivers, Josh Allen will be a franchise QB in no time. 

• The two INTs were simply a QB trying to make something from nothing. Not really that bad, and he will learn from them.
• The one deep pass over the middle to Clay in the first half was SOOOO close to a TD...I'd like to see video of the rout and see if where the ball was placed, if Clay dogged it, or if James just made a great play on the ball. 
• I counted 5 drops of catchable balls.
• He air-mailed one to Holmes over the middle and threw three or four other balls that weren't great. 
• Had a stretch where both Clay and DiMarco had to make very good catches of what should've been better-thrown balls. Also, that one early pass in the flat to Murphy that he missed. 
• He missed a few blitzes and a couple of those sacks were on him. But the Chargers were really throwing some exotic looks and pressure at him. 
• Otherwise, he seemed to do well on the short passes. After a year of playing, I guarantee Allen will be getting rid of the ball sooner and cleaner. Hell, he was doing that from first quarter to the 4th. 

I don't get it, the comments on this video in Twitter just rake him over the coals. "Trash" and "LOLs". I don't think they're even watching, just going with the national story that Allen is going to be a bust. Really odd, though, because I see a very promising and poised rookie. 

 

I'm really excited to see how he progresses this year. Can you imagine what this kid will be able to do in two years time - assuming they actually get him some help? 

 

Good chance of being an all-pro level QB. 

 

 

[starrymessenger]

11 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said:

To me that one was awful but easy to see what happened. You literally never ever practice what Josh did. Roll to your left and throw a 10 yard lob way up in the air. It was just a simple error and something he isn't likely to do. He saw Murphy wide wide open, and instead of throwing it on a line which he would have done if he were covered, or taking a little off and throwing it like a swing pass which he did 3-4 times with success in the game, he just decided to lob it out there because no one was near him, and he just overcompensated and blew it. It was just a dumb decision to throw a pass like you never ever throw. A lot of quarterbacks will say sometimes when a guy is uncovered it isn't as easy as it looks because you are thinking I can't possibly blow this, can I? And it plays games with you. To me it's easily explainable and nothing to do with his inaccuracy, which was a small problem in the game. In fact, two of his completions were a bigger accuracy issue than that fluke play. 

 

Well poor footwork on short throws is what many observers have identified as a main cause of what they call Allen's "inaccuracy". There is a fair amount of this in his college tape. Don't mean to be argumentative because you know your stuff but I disagree that the pass to Clay in the seam was a good throw. DB recovered well but it sure looked under thrown to me (Clay slowed down) and it was a rope when there should have been more air under it.

[Kelly the Dog]

18 minutes ago, starrymessenger said:

 

Well poor footwork on short throws is what many observers have identified as a main cause of what they call Allen's "inaccuracy". There is a fair amount of this in his college tape. Don't mean to be argumentative because you know your stuff but I disagree that the pass to Clay in the seam was a good throw. DB recovered well but it sure looked under thrown to me (Clay slowed down) and it was a rope when there should have been more air under it.

The DB covering Clay was much faster than Clay who is not used to or good at fly patterns. If he lofted it the DB would have had a better chance at it than Clay. And Josh wasn’t looking at him the entire time. Only when he stepped up in the pocket which was just about to collapse did he see Clay and gun it. 

[ganesh]

14 hours ago, ddaryl said:

 

 

I'm not asking for excuses.. I am just calling it the way I saw it and then after I got to review it.

 

I'm not writing this guy off but he has to get much better.... much better..

Agreed he has got to get better...but he appears to have the tools and motivation to do it.  

5 hours ago, Domdab99 said:

After watching this, a few thoughts:

 

This kid has got it all. Give him a year. a half-decent OL and a couple of good receivers, Josh Allen will be a franchise QB in no time. 

• The two INTs were simply a QB trying to make something from nothing. Not really that bad, and he will learn from them.
• The one deep pass over the middle to Clay in the first half was SOOOO close to a TD...I'd like to see video of the rout and see if where the ball was placed, if Clay dogged it, or if James just made a great play on the ball. 
• I counted 5 drops of catchable balls.
• He air-mailed one to Holmes over the middle and threw three or four other balls that weren't great. 
• Had a stretch where both Clay and DiMarco had to make very good catches of what should've been better-thrown balls. Also, that one early pass in the flat to Murphy that he missed. 
• He missed a few blitzes and a couple of those sacks were on him. But the Chargers were really throwing some exotic looks and pressure at him. 
• Otherwise, he seemed to do well on the short passes. After a year of playing, I guarantee Allen will be getting rid of the ball sooner and cleaner. Hell, he was doing that from first quarter to the 4th. 

I don't get it, the comments on this video in Twitter just rake him over the coals. "Trash" and "LOLs". I don't think they're even watching, just going with the national story that Allen is going to be a bust. Really odd, though, because I see a very promising and poised rookie. 

 

I'm really excited to see how he progresses this year. Can you imagine what this kid will be able to do in two years time - assuming they actually get him some help? 

 

Good chance of being an all-pro level QB. 

 

 

great points...shows that Josh has work to do to get to the next level.  I hope the Bills fans will be patient and the Coaching staff will allow him to grow into a NFL caliber QB.

[reddogblitz]

14 hours ago, Gugny said:

We had a guy in his 7th year missing receivers on every drive of every game.

 

Dude's gone Gug.  What does he have to do with Josh 's inaccuracy?

[Avisan]

6 hours ago, Domdab99 said:

I counted 5 drops of catchable balls.

3 drops of interceptable balls, too.

 

Also, the "drops" you're referring too were almost all pretty difficult catches to make

 

Allen's toolkit is remarkable.  Dude is strong and his arm is a cannon.  We'll see if he can put it all together.

Edited September 18, 2018 by Avisan

[Gugny]

3 hours ago, reddogblitz said:

 

Dude's gone Gug.  What does he have to do with Josh 's inaccuracy?

 

I'm trying to put things into perspective.  I disliked Tyrod's performance because he made stupid, rookie mistakes in his 6th, 7th and 8th year in the league whilst in Buffalo.  In my book, a veteran QB who makes rookie mistakes on a consistent basis, sucks.

 

There are people on this site who are up in arms about the mistakes Allen made on Sunday.  Well color me pink and roll me in dog****, a true rookie in his first NFL start against the San Diego !@#$ing Chargers actually made mistakes???  

 

No ****.  He's a rookie.  And he's a rookie QB on the worst team in the league.  Anyone expecting him to look good in his first game is a moron.

 

That's what this has to do with his inaccuracy.

 

 

 

Edited September 18, 2018 by Gugny
I fixed a typo. You got a problem with that?

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

9 minutes ago, Gugny said:

Anyone expecting him to look good in his first game is a moron.
 

 

I thought he looked pretty good for a rookie >.<

 

[BeginnersMind]

9 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

I'm trying to put things into perspective.  I disliked Tyrod's performance because he made stupid, rookie mistakes in his 6th, 7th and 8th year in the league whilst in Buffalo.  In my book, a veteran QB who makes rookie mistakes on a consistent basis, sucks.

 

There are people on this site who are up in arms about the mistakes Allen made on Sunday.  Well color me pink and roll me in dog****, a true rookie in his first NFL start against the San Diego !@#$ing Chargers actually made mistakes???  

 

No ****.  He's a rookie.  And he's a rookie QB on the worst team in the league.  Anyone expecting him to look good in his first game is a moron.

 

That's what this has to do with his inaccuracy.

 

 

 

 

When he took his 7th snap, it was 14-0. 

 

Given that, I though he was composed. 

[Fred Clause]

14 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

LOL coming from you.....just LOL

Seriously ALL QBS DO THIS......I honestly dont get why YOU dont get that....you ignore QB play by the rest of the league where QBs make these throws and their WR's are required to make a play on a ball that is area code accurate.......ALL QBS THROW THESE KIND OF PASSES

SOME of the throws were like this....there were also balls that were decently accurate and dropped

Your typical hogwash

Or he is gonna get better with more playing time or maybe even with better pass catching targets (ours are bad) next year?  A much more realistic look then your punchbowl piss

A totally different situation.....Josh Allen pulls the trigger and is willing to work from the pocket when there actually is one.

Just like every rookie QB that is currently playing.  And he already looks much better then he did at Wyoming

 

Fadingbrain is a top 5 worst poster here with an anti Allen agenda. Best left ignored...

Edited September 18, 2018 by Fred Clause

[Gugny]

1 minute ago, joesixpack said:

 

I thought he looked pretty good for a rookie >.<

 

 

1 minute ago, BeginnersMind said:

 

When he took his 7th snap, it was 14-0. 

 

Given that, I though he was composed. 

 

Even though Joe is being a wiseass (he can't help it; he's from Jersey), I will agree with both of you.  I was very happy with what I saw from him.  You know why?  Because I had realistic expectations.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

1 minute ago, Gugny said:

 

 

Even though Joe is being a wiseass (he can't help it; he's from Jersey), I will agree with both of you.  I was very happy with what I saw from him.  You know why?  Because I had realistic expectations.

 

I'm not FROM Jersey. I live here.

 

 

[BeginnersMind]

4 minutes ago, joesixpack said:

 

I'm not FROM Jersey. I live here.

 

 

 

The toxins are in your blood by by now. Your DNA is changed. 

 

And your kids are full on Jersey kids. Why did you not think of your children?

 

Fortunately the natives can never go further from the state borders than a tank of gas can take them. They are Wall-E hopleless at the pumps. 

 

Kidding. I love NJ outside of the northern asphalt jungle. 

Edited September 18, 2018 by BeginnersMind

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

1 minute ago, BeginnersMind said:

Kidding. I love NJ outside of the northern asphalt jungle. 

 

It's actually really nice where I live. Quiet. My sister lives in North Jersey. I'd want NO part of that.

 

[BeginnersMind]

Just now, joesixpack said:

 

It's actually really nice where I live. Quiet. My sister lives in North Jersey. I'd want NO part of that.

 

 

Agreed. Jersey gets a bad rap for that part of the state. The rest is farmlands and great beaches. My wife and I talk about moving to the shore. 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

3 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said:

 

Agreed. Jersey gets a bad rap for that part of the state. The rest is farmlands and great beaches. My wife and I talk about moving to the shore. 

 

What's great is in the summer, I can get some amazing produce daily.

 

[SouthNYfan]

19 hours ago, ddaryl said:

 

 

and yet nobody can take an honest observation here.. I can be dishonest if you like

 

 

again calling it the way I see it. I would of liked to have seen A LOT MORE POSITIVES. At this junction he looked shaky..

 

 

 

 

 

Pointing out every one of his negatives while saying things like "I'm very concerned" is a little over the top

[BeginnersMind]

19 hours ago, ddaryl said:

 

 

and yet nobody can take an honest observation here.. I can be dishonest if you like

 

 

again calling it the way I see it. I would of liked to have seen A LOT MORE POSITIVES. At this junction he looked shaky..

 

 

 

 

 

His 7th snap and he’s down 14-0. With your grandmother playing on the offensive line and your great aunt at wide receiver. 

 

You are going to have to look hard for positives this season. It ain’t going to whack you upside the head with a 2x4. 

[Buddy Hix]

I waited until I could watch this video to give my opinion because being at the game it was hard to see where every ball was located, and the video reinforces what I felt in person, that Allen was bad. Allen is missing RBs on wheel routes or in the flat by three feet, and underthrowing deep balls despite the big arm. I fully understand the context of being in his first start, and I'll give him credit for being poised, but this is exactly what Allen was in Wyoming...inaccurate, with no touch.

 

I hope he improves and look forward to seeing if he can fix his accuracy, but as we have seen in the past, fixing inaccuracy is a tall order.