mynmisoli Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 How much more evidence does this front office need to determine that Peterman just isn't an NFL quarterback. Not a starter, not a backup, not even a practice squad guy. How much worse does he have to play!? If he isn't off the payroll by the end of week 4, I really have to question the sanity of Beane and McDermott. Forget that he was a draft pick and just cut ties with the guy. When you have a guy this bad around the team, you make the team worse whether he plays or not. Moore, Kaep, Lynch, Mallett are all QBs that I'd rather see holding a clipboard for Allen than Pickerman. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 There has got to be a place in the organization for such a fine young man. Maybe there's room for him at the merch counter? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Process Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, OJ Tom said: There has got to be a place in the organization for such a fine young man. Maybe there's room for him at the merch counter? He better hand off the merchandise to the fan..... We let the wrong QB go.....oops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 He will be putting his degree to use soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 3 hours ago, mynmisoli said: How much more evidence does this front office need to determine that Peterman just isn't an NFL quarterback. Not a starter, not a backup, not even a practice squad guy. How much worse does he have to play!? If he isn't off the payroll by the end of week 4, I really have to question the sanity of Beane and McDermott. Forget that he was a draft pick and just cut ties with the guy. When you have a guy this bad around the team, you make the team worse whether he plays or not. Moore, Kaep, Lynch, Mallett are all QBs that I'd rather see holding a clipboard for Allen than Pickerman. Though I agree with you in the fact that NP may never be more than a so-so back up I kinda feel bad for the guy. For your first NFL start you get thrown to the wolves on the road against one of the better defenses while your team is in a playoff race. No pressure. Then on opening day on the road you put him behind a Swiss cheese O line and an offense devoid of any real talent against another talented Defense. Awesome! All the while knowing you are nothing more than a sacrificial place holder keeping a seat warm before being discarded. I don't ever really feel bad for any pro athletes but I gotta admit this is close. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigs Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 He’s a good Christian man like the HC...so he’s safe. Why else would McD have to “look at the tape” for a fair assessment? He’s giving him every chance in the world because he has a weakness for guys like that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 I agree that the difference in talent between Allen and Peterman is real. I also agree that NP is not NFL starter material and JA should get all the starter reps (practice or game) under center even if he is only on one leg. But NP was capable in a backup role last year and I am happy to keep him there. He did outplay McCarron this preseason. So, I would not go so far as to get him off the payroll. Dont forget that the quarterback's struggles are in part due to (lack of) OL and WR support. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGun12TD Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Gigs said: He’s a good Christian man like the HC...so he’s safe. Why else would McD have to “look at the tape” for a fair assessment? He’s giving him every chance in the world because he has a weakness for guys like that. Thanks for saying this...my thought exactly. UGh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtbag Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 hubris is a helluva drug. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x-BillzeBubba Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 He's actually a very good PS qb prospect...he's pretty good when not in a live-fire situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 When McD says he'll need to look at the tape, I suspect it's his way of saying, "Look, it's painfully obvious but I won't throw my QB under the bus in the media. Also, I need to tell him face-to-face that's he's done barring injury. Telling him now through you folks, isn't the kind of guy I am".... In other words, what else should he say about a player in particular? If he tosses Nate to the wolves he loses that credibility with his locker room. He needs to tell Nate personally before he says anything publicly. It's amusing to me that many people don't understand that. Take any other job, if your boss went to the other co-workers, along with your family, friends and neighbors and told them, "Dude is demoted, he couldn't cut it", before he / she spoke to you directly, that would be insulting, right? In that case, suck it up and do your job or look elsewhere but in the NFL it affects the locker room which affects the games. So, you take the heat for not stating the obvious and then you tell him on Tuesday that it's Josh Allen time. IF he doesn't....then flame away, but until then - let's give him a chance to just be a decent human being. Nothing to do with the Christian stuff....just sound management principles in terms of handling people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Mcdermott and Beane are determined to make their draft pick stick no matter how bad he is. I mean the guy is good in shorts and preseason games....isnt that good enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 5 hours ago, mynmisoli said: How much more evidence does this front office need to determine that Peterman just isn't an NFL quarterback. Not a starter, not a backup, not even a practice squad guy. How much worse does he have to play!? If he isn't off the payroll by the end of week 4, I really have to question the sanity of Beane and McDermott. Forget that he was a draft pick and just cut ties with the guy. When you have a guy this bad around the team, you make the team worse whether he plays or not. Moore, Kaep, Lynch, Mallett are all QBs that I'd rather see holding a clipboard for Allen than Pickerman. I say sign a vet QB and get him here for 2-3 weeks to learn the offense and then cut Peterman. The guy is not an NFL QB and has no business being on this team other Sean likes him, as you mentioned other vets are out there but they would need 2-3 weeks to learn system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 What's more shocking is what has he done except for putting up mediocre stats (albeit better stats that were better then the other guys this preseason) in the preseason to earn the right to continue on as part of the roster even as a backup? What has he done that's so great that most other available QBs couldn't give the Bill's? His only advantage is knowing the playbook already, sign someone now and give them 2-3 weeks and that advantage is gone. I do believe we may hear an announcement soon that the Bill's are signing Lynch this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, OJ Tom said: There has got to be a place in the organization for such a fine young man. Maybe there's room for him at the merch counter? He would keep giving the merch away to the other team!! Edited September 10, 2018 by Kirby Jackson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 While you are add it bench Ducasse... get Teller in and get him learning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 (edited) I'm all for giving a guy his chance, that said he has had it and failed miserably at his chance(s), time to cut bait and move on. Edited September 10, 2018 by pop gun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 6 hours ago, mynmisoli said: How much more evidence does this front office need to determine that Peterman just isn't an NFL quarterback. Not a starter, not a backup, not even a practice squad guy. How much worse does he have to play!? If he isn't off the payroll by the end of week 4, I really have to question the sanity of Beane and McDermott. Forget that he was a draft pick and just cut ties with the guy. When you have a guy this bad around the team, you make the team worse whether he plays or not. Moore, Kaep, Lynch, Mallett are all QBs that I'd rather see holding a clipboard for Allen than Pickerman. Let's try and remember that Peterman has exactly the skill set the Bills need right now. Namely, he's expendable - getting him killed behind this line protects Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBobby Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 I understand the concept of a QB competition. But the bills butchered this. They acted like they have some air-tight process for Allen. So they go get a vet. They let all 3 battle it out. It's been nothing but a distraction for our pathetic offense and 34 minutes into the first game, the plan is shot and we wasted an entire summer getting our rookie ready and aligned with his horrendous receivers...mostly practicing on 3rd team. It's almost comical. The vet has been traded and the guy who "earned" it got benched after not getting a single first down. Even the jets announced their starter weeks ago. So darnold has had 2 or 3 weeks to settle into the starter role. McDermott is going to lose the team with bad decisions like this...if he hasn't already. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 they should just say they're starting Josh. No childish mindgames 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 The problem is that they didn't go get a vet. They got 3 guys with a total of 6 starts. They decided to wager on all young 'upside' instead of bringing in at least one who has proven they can play a few games at QB without vomiting all over themselves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 At this point they have to start Allen even though he's probably not ready. Peterman can't see the field again for this team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanbillsfan2206 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 I think Peterman had a large portion of us fooled. Including the coaching staff. After watching his performances in preseason, I thought he was a capable QB. I was very wrong.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 1 minute ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: The problem is that they didn't go get a vet. They got 3 guys with a total of 6 starts. They decided to wager on all young 'upside' instead of bringing in at least one who has proven they can play a few games at QB without vomiting all over themselves. They could have kept Tyrod or signed Bridgewater for a song after his trade to the Browns to give them time to properly develop Josh Allen. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 (edited) Like Mike Tyson said. Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth. I wish they would have kept Tyrod until Allen was ready Edited September 10, 2018 by bmur66 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: They could have kept Tyrod or signed Bridgewater for a song after his trade to the Browns to give them time to properly develop Josh Allen. I don't think they were planning on keeping Tyrod at his price. But they could have looked at Teddy, or brought in Anderson or Moore, both of whom Beane and Daboll are familiar with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Just now, BuffaloHokie13 said: I don't think they were planning on keeping Tyrod at his price. But they could have looked at Teddy, or brought in Anderson or Moore, both of whom Beane and Daboll are familiar with. All good points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 5 minutes ago, Seanbillsfan2206 said: I think Peterman had a large portion of us fooled. Including the coaching staff. After watching his performances in preseason, I thought he was a capable QB. I was very wrong.... Almost every article I read on Peterman this offseason is he looked sharp. I think he absolutely had us fooled. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: Almost every article I read on Peterman this offseason is he looked sharp. I think he absolutely had us fooled. Who is us? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBobby Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 11 minutes ago, jr1 said: they should just say they're starting Josh. No childish mindgames I agree. Just move on already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: Who is us? No one (except SaviorPeterman) thought he was good, even McBeane which is why we took Allen but I don't think we expected an even worse performance that he had at LA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Yeah trading the vet away is the biggest head scratcher of all. Let a vet take the lumps, don’t have to worry about his ‘confidence’ getting ruined. This process....is making me thirsty! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Just now, Royale with Cheese said: No one (except SaviorPeterman) thought he was good, even McBeane which is why we took Allen but I don't think we expected an even worse performance that he had at LA. I wasn't expecting much from him with how limited he is and the expectations should have been even lower given the poor talent surrounding him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 I would definitely and most happily welcome a legit QB competition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: I wasn't expecting much from him with how limited he is and the expectations should have been even lower given the poor talent surrounding him. He was supposed to be able to get the ball out early. He didn't do it yesterday at all. He was supposed to be more pro ready because that's the style of offense he ran in college. He looks like as raw as Lamar Jackson....but Jackson looks like in one summer is more ready. Nate just freezes up after the snap if his first read isn't there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Just now, Royale with Cheese said: He was supposed to be able to get the ball out early. He didn't do it yesterday at all. He was supposed to be more pro ready because that's the style of offense he ran in college. He looks like as raw as Lamar Jackson....but Jackson looks like in one summer is more ready. Nate just freezes up after the snap if his first read isn't there. Much different from the preseason with 1st team defenses and complicated pressure/coverage schemes as I have been saying to not much avail. Peterman is a marginal NFL talent as he has been since he entered the league last season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eanyills Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: I wasn't expecting much from him with how limited he is and the expectations should have been even lower given the poor talent surrounding him. Exactly. It’s an indictment on Beane/McD if they honestly thought Peterman was a viable option as this team’s starting QB AND if they weren’t trying to lose (which they weren’t evidenced by putting Allen in). The whole situation really puts a dent in my faith of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: Much different from the preseason with 1st team defenses and complicated pressure/coverage schemes as I have been saying to not much avail. Peterman is a marginal NFL talent as he has been since he entered the league last season. I wouldn't even say marginal for Peterman. He his marginally physically talented but mentally, he's even more south there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Just now, Royale with Cheese said: I wouldn't even say marginal for Peterman. He his marginally physically talented but mentally, he's even more south there. Maybe in the QB room or on the chalk board, but that has not been reflected in the heat of battle where he is in no way composed or poised enough to make good decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Maybe in the QB room or on the chalk board, but that has not been reflected in the heat of battle where he is in no way composed or poised enough to make good decisions. Yeah I think Peterman could actually coach. He's just that guy that can't apply it on the field with live ammo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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