Rocbillsfan1 Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 On 9/8/2018 at 10:08 PM, GoBills808 said: He's not taking the injury risk into consideration. I look at it like this: Bell wants $40M guaranteed. If he plays this whole year under the tag he gets $14.5M, but if he gets injured at any point it's very unlikely his next contract would include $26M in guarantees to equal the $40M (14.5+26) he feels he's worth. So if he sits for 10 weeks and gets only 7/17ths of his $14.5M ($5.99M) tender, it's still a better deal considering he only has to play half a season (50% reduction in wear and tear, similar reduction in injury likelihood) imo. He loses about $8.5M this season but makes up the difference 5x on the new deal. People who hold out and don’t get themselves in perfect shape always get some type of nagging injury when they come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Le'veon....who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 1, 2018 Author Share Posted November 1, 2018 Ouch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 On 10/14/2018 at 4:55 PM, Mr. WEO said: Le'veon....who? LeVian Chocolate Diamonds Your wife / significant other would love one 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 (edited) La'veon stop listen to scum sports agents that are greedy and dont give a Sh*t about you. Edited November 1, 2018 by wppete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 He's not coming back this year. At this point it would be stupid for him to come back. He's not going back to a "bell cow" role the way Conner has played and if he did get hurt this year he's out the ~$10 mil he'll have lost in this year salary, plus his future deal. He'll sit out the whole year and dare the Steelers to tag him again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 On 9/5/2018 at 3:22 PM, teef said: looks like you can't unring that bell! right guys?! right?! You should do stand up with Adam Sandler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 On 9/5/2018 at 2:34 PM, TheElectricCompany said: It's not like the Steelers weren't trying. It sounds like they put some decent deals on the table. He should have just taken their $60 million contract in 2017. Seriously. Why? That's not what he wanted. He's not getting used up. He will get his contract from someone. The Steelers have a good player in Connor. Win-win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClemsonBills Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 25 minutes ago, wppete said: La'veon stop listen to scum sports agents that are greedy and dont give a Sh*t about you. Says the dude with him on his bench Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 I can't see any team paying him over 60 mil but their are a lot of variables in how much is guaranteed and how the contract is structures. 60 mil seems like the most money a RB will get in the NFL. Anyone know what Shadys contract is off the top of their head Todd Gurleys 60 mil deal had 45 of it Guaranteed. The Steelers deal had to be close to this, Bell will loose money because of this big time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 28 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: I can't see any team paying him over 60 mil but their are a lot of variables in how much is guaranteed and how the contract is structures. 60 mil seems like the most money a RB will get in the NFL. Anyone know what Shadys contract is off the top of their head Todd Gurleys 60 mil deal had 45 of it Guaranteed. The Steelers deal had to be close to this, Bell will loose money because of this big time. I could see the jets do exactly that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 1, 2018 Author Share Posted November 1, 2018 41 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: I can't see any team paying him over 60 mil but their are a lot of variables in how much is guaranteed and how the contract is structures. 60 mil seems like the most money a RB will get in the NFL. Anyone know what Shadys contract is off the top of their head Todd Gurleys 60 mil deal had 45 of it Guaranteed. The Steelers deal had to be close to this, Bell will loose money because of this big time. Shady is 5 yrs 40 mill, just over 18 mill gtd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittakestime Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 52 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: I can't see any team paying him over 60 mil but their are a lot of variables in how much is guaranteed and how the contract is structures. 60 mil seems like the most money a RB will get in the NFL. Anyone know what Shadys contract is off the top of their head Todd Gurleys 60 mil deal had 45 of it Guaranteed. The Steelers deal had to be close to this, Bell will loose money because of this big time. Just wait until you see the desperation Beane will be under in the offseason. Wouldn't surprise me one bit to see Beane throw tons of money at Bell and spinning it that it fills multiple holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 1, 2018 Author Share Posted November 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, Ittakestime said: Just wait until you see the desperation Beane will be under in the offseason. Wouldn't surprise me one bit to see Beane throw tons of money at Bell and spinning it that it fills multiple holes. Hmmm it kind of does. I would love to have Bell, but I don’t think his me first attitude fits McDermott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 Bell looks like a system RB with Conner putting up similar numbers 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 1, 2018 Author Share Posted November 1, 2018 37 minutes ago, jr1 said: Bell looks like a system RB with Conner putting up similar numbers I think a lot of it is their OL tbh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 2 hours ago, Ittakestime said: Just wait until you see the desperation Beane will be under in the offseason. Wouldn't surprise me one bit to see Beane throw tons of money at Bell and spinning it that it fills multiple holes. RBs are a dime a dozen for a long time now 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 47 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I think a lot of it is their OL tbh Agree plus if the D tried to stack the box and play run Ben, AB and juju would obliterate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 3 hours ago, Chuck Wagon said: He's not coming back this year. At this point it would be stupid for him to come back. He's not going back to a "bell cow" role the way Conner has played and if he did get hurt this year he's out the ~$10 mil he'll have lost in this year salary, plus his future deal. He'll sit out the whole year and dare the Steelers to tag him again. Dare them? Or....what? They aren't going to pay the tag money for him. They would only tag him to break his balls---make him sign the tender before another team could sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodneykm Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 He messed his payday up. Bad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 This is playing out perfectly for Bell. Show up week 10, get your year of service, then become a FA. No way the Steelers tag him again. BTW, if he doesn't show up, the Steelers automatically have him tagged next year at no increase to them. He will show in week 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimKellyTryouts Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 7 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: This is playing out perfectly for Bell. Show up week 10, get your year of service, then become a FA. No way the Steelers tag him again. BTW, if he doesn't show up, the Steelers automatically have him tagged next year at no increase to them. He will show in week 10. If he doesn't report this year, they may also just choose to not tag him this offseason and say good riddance since both sides seem more than satisfied with a divorce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 7 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: This is playing out perfectly for Bell. Show up week 10, get your year of service, then become a FA. No way the Steelers tag him again. BTW, if he doesn't show up, the Steelers automatically have him tagged next year at no increase to them. He will show in week 10. What if they cut him in week 9? Take the cap hit. He's screwed a bit more. But he really just screwed himself with this holdout. He's proving to the next team he'll take less money than the Steelers already tried to give him---and that he's worth less than they were going to pay him (given his age and the the status of his replacement). Just dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 10 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: What if they cut him in week 9? Take the cap hit. He's screwed a bit more. But he really just screwed himself with this holdout. He's proving to the next team he'll take less money than the Steelers already tried to give him---and that he's worth less than they were going to pay him (given his age and the the status of his replacement). Just dumb. So he should have risked injury to play under the tag for the 2nd year in a row? How did that work for Earl Thomas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said: So he should have risked injury to play under the tag for the 2nd year in a row? How did that work for Earl Thomas? tell him to go cry to the NFLPA as they negotiated and players ratified the cba that expressly lays out how and when franchise tags and transition tags can be used. Bell is clearly a high roller taking these chances. Edited November 2, 2018 by cba fan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 10 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said: So he should have risked injury to play under the tag for the 2nd year in a row? How did that work for Earl Thomas? Oh no he may make a few less million. Let me wipe this tear from my eye. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 So funny people are angry at a guy for making a business decision. All these angry people must have drafted him lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 9 hours ago, cba fan said: tell him to go cry to the NFLPA as they negotiated and players ratified the cba that expressly lays out how and when franchise tags and transition tags can be used. Bell is clearly a high roller taking these chances. Lickspittle! Bureaucrat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 19 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: I think a lot of it is their OL tbh Bell is clearly very talented, but a swiss cheese line would not allow him to hesitate in the backfield as much as he does. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 19 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: What if they cut him in week 9? Take the cap hit. He's screwed a bit more. But he really just screwed himself with this holdout. He's proving to the next team he'll take less money than the Steelers already tried to give him---and that he's worth less than they were going to pay him (given his age and the the status of his replacement). Just dumb. Sean Gilbert begs to differ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 On 11/2/2018 at 2:57 PM, dave mcbride said: Sean Gilbert begs to differ. Why? When he was tagged a second time, he was allowed to take it to arbitration. Players now can be tagged 3 times. Bell will never get a contract for more than the one the Steelers offered him. Why would any team pay more for a RB (who's not Todd Gurley). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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