Royale with Cheese Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 16 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said: Poster called me a loser for just saying I'd prefer the 1st pick over the playoffs, for just this year. Should I have thanked him? I'm going on your history and I've seen enough to make an accurate determination. That's who you are.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 11 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I'm going on your history and I've seen enough to make an accurate determination. That's who you are.... If you want to insult me just say it and let me know so we can go at it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Ol Dirty B said: If you want to insult me just say it and let me know so we can go at it Not interested in "going at it" on a message board. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 43 minutes ago, nucci said: You know nothing about me.....you want to insult me and go at it let me know...... 40 minutes ago, nucci said: ahh, you're the tough internet person...well done 38 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Hes always like this. 6 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said: If you want to insult me just say it and let me know so we can go at it 4 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Not interested in "going at it" on a message board. You can see what I did here right? But go on, continue with misrepresentations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buff76ers Posted September 5, 2018 Author Share Posted September 5, 2018 47 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: I absolutely hate the loser mentality that some people have. It's gross! It’s not a looser mentality. The Bills are projected to get like 3 wins this year. Their schedule is brutal. I’m simply implying that with the choice you could take the 1st pick and do a lot with it rather than pick middle of the crowd and limp into the playoffs. If we didn’t have such a bad schedule I would rethink it. It’s like asking yourself would you like to see peterman successful or be dreadful and get the Allen era started. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 To quote Herman Edwards..... You play to win the game. end of discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 How is this even a question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 ohhh. playoffs every time. every...time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buff76ers Posted September 5, 2018 Author Share Posted September 5, 2018 49 minutes ago, Soda Popinski said: The question was would you rather make the playoffs or have the 1st overall pick. One choice represents success, one failure. My preference is we win games. Not lose games. This team is not bad enough to pick 1st overall, don't believe the hype. THe only way we pick 1st overall is if we tanked or traded up. EDIT: we have no need to trade up to 1st overall. You can have 3-4 wins and still get top pick just sayin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Buff76ers said: It’s not a looser mentality. The Bills are projected to get like 3 wins this year. Their schedule is brutal. I’m simply implying that with the choice you could take the 1st pick and do a lot with it rather than pick middle of the crowd and limp into the playoffs. If we didn’t have such a bad schedule I would rethink it. It’s like asking yourself would you like to see peterman successful or be dreadful and get the Allen era started. Since he is the starting QB of the Buffalo Bills, I want Peterman to play lime the second coming or Rodgers. Again, how is this even a question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 Playoffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 Playoffs, because then there is always a chance for anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Wsam4031 said: havent we lost enough in the past decade! Actually, no. We've won just enough to be irrelevant for the most part. I've long said that unless you're going to win AT LEAST 9 games, there's really no point in meaningless late-season wins. Winning 6-8 games a year for decades was a big factor in the drought. Had we had more 2-4 win seasons in there we likely would have had a lot better talent on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 As much as Ive prepared myself to be "ok" with a horrible season, the answer is always Playoffs. Especially given that would be 2 years in a row. And would mean our QB(s) had some success. We'd definitely be on the right track to relevancy again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 I’ll root for the Bills to win every game and make the playoffs, as per usual. Haven’t the Browns owned the first pick a half dozen times in the last decade ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 There isn't a single person employed by the Bills from highest paid player to custodian that was hired with the business goal of securing the #1 pick in the draft. Besides, the Bills as a business, can't afford the 1-15 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 11 minutes ago, dpberr said: There isn't a single person employed by the Bills from highest paid player to custodian that was hired with the business goal of securing the #1 pick in the draft. Besides, the Bills as a business, can't afford the 1-15 season. I agree with your first statement, but cant agree with the bold. This franchise has historically been a loser, and has maintained its fan base. The TV money comes in either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 45 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said: You can see what I did here right? But go on, continue with misrepresentations As I stated before, I made my determination based on your history and not just today. I feel it's not misrepresented at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 30 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: I’ll root for the Bills to win every game and make the playoffs, as per usual. Haven’t the Browns owned the first pick a half dozen times in the last decade ? Carson Wentz would have remade that franchise. DeShaun Watson would have also turned it around. Mayfield might, I think he's a great young prospect. But how many bites at that apple do they need to take before someone takes it away? So many terrible choices, hell their 2016 1st round pick was just on our team 10 days ago lol. It doesn't matter how many high picks you have if you can't draft and develop you don't win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buff76ers Posted September 5, 2018 Author Share Posted September 5, 2018 54 minutes ago, No Place To Hyde said: Since he is the starting QB of the Buffalo Bills, I want Peterman to play lime the second coming or Rodgers. Again, how is this even a question? Really we all want peterman to do great, however if there was the option for this year to get the 1st pick or limp into the playoffs which would you want. I would take the 1st pick in a heart beat only because our schedule is brutal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 Wow, I can't imagine how much McD/Beane would suck if they made the playoffs again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 I'd prefer doing both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Ol Dirty B said: If I thought this team could win in the playoffs and was built to win now, of course playoffs. Pragmatically, wanting the best for the next 5 to 10 years. I want the top pick. We only lost by a TD last year. And we removed our offensive boat anchor. Edited September 5, 2018 by reddogblitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenWillBust Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 2 hours ago, Ol Dirty B said: Who said anything about tanking? You injected that. Yeah, I believe they can get the 1st pick without having to tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 49 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: As I stated before, I made my determination based on your history and not just today. I feel it's not misrepresented at all. My post went over your head. The poster said the exact same thing to me and you called me an internet tough guy. I said the same thing sarcastically to you and you couldn't keep up. But it's cool, change the subject and project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 If they get the #1 draft pick, there’s a good chance they might burn it on a high-motor, lunch-pail roidhead DE. I’ll take the playoffs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 If "getting to the playoffs" means getting run over by Blake Bortles in a one and done debacle again, then I'll take the 1st overall pick in a heartbeat. I want the Bills to be a team for whom a 9 win season is a stinker; not a reason to celebrate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 2 hours ago, Buff76ers said: Would you rather have the Bills make the playoffs again this year or get the 1st pick in the draft? Playoffs or bust. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 44 minutes ago, Buff76ers said: Really we all want peterman to do great, however if there was the option for this year to get the 1st pick or limp into the playoffs which would you want. I would take the 1st pick in a heart beat only because our schedule is brutal. "Our schedule is brutal" and "better QBs in the draft next year" are the mantras of people who are scared. Fear isn't for football. I would DEFINITELY take a repeat of getting to the playoffs for a second straight season. 2 seasons under McD and 2 playoffs...yea people take notice. Including those free agent type people that we always just seem to be a bartering chip fir them to get a contract from a better team. Having the "first pick in the draft" is no guarantee you will get a franchise changing player. It can be good sure, but thete is no promise its not,fools gold and another wasted season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 12 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said: My post went over your head. The poster said the exact same thing to me and you called me an internet tough guy. I said the same thing sarcastically to you and you couldn't keep up. But it's cool, change the subject and project. LOL....I couldn't keep up? Do you expect me to read every single post that's in reply to you? Is that what you expect....or want? I saw one post with another poster calling you and internet tough guy and I acknowledged it...going off your posting history. That's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: LOL....I couldn't keep up? Do you expect me to read every single post that's in reply to you? Is that what you expect....or want? I saw one post with another poster calling you and internet tough guy and I acknowledged it...going off your posting history. That's it. No but if you're going to say you know my history and have followed me, then yea, you should follow every reply to my posts. You clearly already dedicate too much time to me. Edited September 5, 2018 by Ol Dirty B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Ol Dirty B said: No but if you're going to say you know my history and have followed me, then yea, you should follow every reply to my posts. You clearly already dedicate too much time to me. Geezus. I haven't followed you nor did I say I did. This is a public message board and you have 1,445 posts. I've seen enough of your posting to determine what type of poster I think you are. It's my opinion. You don't have to read 100% of someone's posts/replies to make a determination. Is this what you really think or something? LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 3 hours ago, Soda Popinski said: There will always be people who are jealous of all those 1st overall picks Cleveland has had over the last few years. They think Cleveland is the model for building sustained success in the NFL, could not be more misguided. Look at the Patriots, did they ever lose out? EVER? Or the Eagles? Did they ever lose out and get the 1st overall pick? EVER? Did the Falcons? How many teams that have played in a super bowl in the past 20 years have tanked a season? zero. nada. none. But some do not understand the game, so they see the 1st overall pick as something that is going to change an entire 53 man roster/culture into a winning one and of course it never does. Indy got close with Luck, but did they play in the super bowl with him yet? Nope. They did not. And it's been years, more than enough. Patriots were 1-15 in 1990. 2-14 in 1981 and 1992. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 3 hours ago, Ol Dirty B said: 1st pick. Last year was fun, but the 1st pick can help make that a routine with the hope of making a run. Not just being happy to be there. Yeah, I really do not want to fall the Browns model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 Playoffs for sure Answered another way though, I’d rather pick 1st than be 7-9. The goal is a championship not a playoff berth. Keep building towards that!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, joesixpack said: Actually, no. We've won just enough to be irrelevant for the most part. I've long said that unless you're going to win AT LEAST 9 games, there's really no point in meaningless late-season wins. Winning 6-8 games a year for decades was a big factor in the drought. Had we had more 2-4 win seasons in there we likely would have had a lot better talent on the team. From a draft position standpoint, winning after being eliminated serves no purpose. If a team is trying to change its culture, winning after being eliminated isn’t such a bad thing. It is a dirty, double edged sword at times, imo. Edited September 5, 2018 by billsfan_34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 3 hours ago, Buff76ers said: Would you rather have the Bills make the playoffs again this year or get the 1st pick in the draft? Unlike a lot of the people responding to your post, I understand what you are getting at. But if we are going to make the playoffs this year, it's because either Peterman, Allen, or BOTH prove to be pretty good, effective QBs....which greatly diminishes the value of that first overall pick. If you aren't going to need or get a "sure thing" QB with the 1st overall pick, it's value is less than a playoff berth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 1 minute ago, billsfan_34 said: Yeah, I really do not want to fall the Browns model. I understand that. The browns remind me of a quote from George on Seinfeld where he says something along the lines of "a few bad strangers with a bad reputation... ruining it for all of us!" But I understand anyone not agreeing with that style of building a team in the nfl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 Just now, Fadingpain said: Unlike a lot of the people responding to your post, I understand what you are getting at. But if we are going to make the playoffs this year, it's because either Peterman, Allen, or BOTH prove to be pretty good, effective QBs....which greatly diminishes the value of that first overall pick. If you aren't going to need or get a "sure thing" QB with the 1st overall pick, it's value is less than a playoff berth. You may get a big offer for that 1st pick or a franchise changing pass rusher like Myles Garrett is about to be. Unless Eric Fisher is going to be the 1st pick there is never a bad year to have the top pick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 8 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Geezus. I haven't followed you nor did I say I did. This is a public message board and you have 1,445 posts. I've seen enough of your posting to determine what type of poster I think you are. It's my opinion. You don't have to read 100% of someone's posts/replies to make a determination. Is this what you really think or something? LOL. Yea, I'm not taking that bait. You made your point at the least opportune time, and it's flat out wrong. I'm done with this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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