Peterman Cumulative Preseason Stats

[Victory Formation]

3 minutes ago, GoodHands15 said:

 

Yeah im sorry this is habadashary. Nate looked just like this last preseason.

That's not true, Nate is throwing with way more anticipation and timing, his arm strength is the same maybe but intellectually he is way way way sharper.

[QCity]

7 minutes ago, GoodHands15 said:

 

Yeah im sorry this is habadashary. 

 

This is a new one.

 

 

[Lfod]

9 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

Okay. Then let's hope each team sends out their 2nd and 3rd stringers in each game this season. 

I'm sorry I didn't know he started against 2nd stringers in the first game. 

Edited August 27, 2018 by Lfod

[GoodHands15]

5 minutes ago, NewDayBills said:

That's not true, Nate is throwing with way more anticipation and timing, his arm strength is the same maybe but intellectually he is way way way sharper.

No Nate was always cerebral

[Fadingpain]

9 minutes ago, GoodHands15 said:

 

Yeah im sorry this is habadashary. Nate looked just like this last preseason.

You mean haberdashery?  As in the stuff sold by a haberdasher, like men's clothes and accessories? 

 

I think you meant "balderdash."

 

Jesus Christ.  You're an idiot.

 

 

 

 

 

[26CornerBlitz]

5 minutes ago, Lfod said:

I'm sorry I didn't know he started against 2nd stringers in the first game. 

 

NIce easy throws all game long (while he was in) to open wide open guys under no duress.  Bravo. 

Edited August 27, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz

[GoodHands15]

Just now, Fadingpain said:

You mean haberdashery?  As in the stuff sold by a haberdasher, like men's clothes and accessories? 

 

I think you meant "balderdash."

 

Jesus Christ.  You're an idiot.

 

 

 

 

 

No I meant habadashary. Because it gets the point across.

 

+1 for you though. 99% of people just go with it.

 

Balderdash is good though as well.

 

 

[Lfod]

3 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

NIce easy throws all game long to open wide open guys under no duress.  Bravo. 

So he didn't make one play under pressure? Not one play running away from pressure to KB on the sideline?  He didn't have a TD pass called back to then just do it again? 

 

I'm glad he makes it look that easy. 

Edited August 27, 2018 by Lfod

[Victory Formation]

1 minute ago, GoodHands15 said:

No Nate was always cerebral

So you think the game hasn't slowed down for him in his 2nd year? He is the exact same player as last year? Really dude????

 

I know I know fans want Allen in there, to the point where they distort the truth, be patient, maybe week 9 or 10 when the game slows down for Allen we can get him in there but if we put him in week 1 he will get knocked out or benched and this is coming from a huge Josh Allen supporter.

[Boatdrinks]

1 minute ago, NewDayBills said:

That's not true, Nate is throwing with way more anticipation and timing, his arm strength is the same maybe but intellectually he is way way way sharper.

It looks the same to me. He’s adequate to decent at a quick passing game. That doesn’t mean the coaches feel he’s a better option. Originally all things being equal I’d have gone with McCarron due to his experience . McCarron wasn’t very good and he’s banged up. I overestimated the drop off in the OL. So with that factored in I’d probably start Peterman. If Allen gets injured behind this OL he may not be able to return until late in the season and year one is lost. Better to let Peterman play while this OL is sorted out. 

[GoodHands15]

1 minute ago, NewDayBills said:

So you think the game hasn't slowed down for him in his 2nd year? He is the exact same player as last year? Really dude????

 

I know I know fans want Allen in there, to the point where they distort the truth, be patient, maybe week 9 or 10 when the game slows down for Allen we can get him in there but if we put him in week 1 he will get knocked out or benched and this is coming from a huge Josh Allen supporter.

 

No no. Nate has improved. His arm strength has improved. But again. He will not be able to hurt defenses that are game planning against him because he only has 30% of the field to work with initially.

 

I have no problem starting Nate. I have a problem keeping a guy with equal overall present ability (strengths and weaknesses considered), as well as a higher upside—and proven ability for rapid development— behind a guy who can only throw to 30% of the field even with his improved arm talent that is still sub par.

 

I like Nate. I really do. But I still believe the overall offensive deversification that JA brings with his ability makes him the better choice to put on the field. More for defense to worry about...

 

I WILL SAY —none of that matters with no time in the pocket.—but if we have to go quick game I still believe JA = NP as far as ability to run quick shot offense.

[26CornerBlitz]

15 minutes ago, Lfod said:

So he didn't make one play under pressure? Not one play running away from pressure to KB on the sideline?  He didn't have a TD pass called back to then just do it again? 

 

I'm glad he makes it look that easy. 

 

I'll give him credit for a couple of nice throws in week 1 of preseason. We'll see how easy it is for him if he starts the real season by running the gauntlet of a schedule in September.  These guys are making it look easy too: National Football League Stats - by Player Category | NFL.com

Edited August 27, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz

[transplantbillsfan]

Yes, not ever throw outs.

 

I’m fine starting him now in order to protect Allen and let him try to prove himself, but how the hell can even his most ardent supporters not see that he’s a pick 6 waiting to happen every single game?

 

But our OL is apparently atrocious and he’s expendable. I’m good with him as the starter to begin the season. It’ll either be really entertaining as a nice successful surprise or it’ll be really entertaining as a Comedy of Errors.

[Lfod]

20 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

I'll give him credit for a couple of nice throws in week 1 of preseason. We'll see how easy it is for him if he starts the real season by running the gauntlet of a schedule in September.

I hope you understand that deep down I share the same concerns as some of you. I have concerns that his play style will lead to interceptions. I also think it's a real possibility he will miss games banged up.

 

I'm not completely ignoring the opposition. I'm not exactly thrilled this might be the guy we have to count on getting the job done. 

 

All I'm saying is that he looks good in preseason and that leaves me with optimism. 7 for 7 and a TD first drive is the type of thing I am salivating over after a 3 point playoff game.

 

If AJMcarron was doing that I would be on his thread talking him up. His thread doesn't exist for a reason. 

 

Josh Allen is impressive. He didn't look bad to me today if I'm just looking at him only. I think he did more right then wrong.

 

I will be cringing like a lot of others if Peterman starts. Only I entertain the idea he might of grown up and isn't the same lost soul in that Chargers game. 

Edited August 27, 2018 by Lfod

[Dan]

37 minutes ago, GoodHands15 said:

 

Yeah im sorry this is habadashary. Nate looked just like this last preseason.

His stat line from the 2017 preseason would appear to demonstrate that he has improved his performance this year. 

 

Player	Team	Pos	Comp	Att	Pct	Att/G	Yds	Avg	Yds/G	TD	Int	1st	1st%	Lng	20+	40+	Sck	Rate

Nathan Peterman

BUF

QB

43

79

54.4

19.8

453

5.7

113.2

1

0

20

25.3

28

4

0

4

75.6

[Boatdrinks]

12 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

Yes, not ever throw outs.

 

I’m fine starting him now in order to protect Allen and let him try to prove himself, but how the hell can even his most ardent supporters not see that he’s a pick 6 waiting to happen every single game?

 

But our OL is apparently atrocious and he’s expendable. I’m good with him as the starter to begin the season. It’ll either be really entertaining as a nice successful surprise or it’ll be really entertaining as a Comedy of Errors.

At this point, no Bills fan should really be a “ supporter “ of Nate Peterman.He is what he is, and if he’s the  placeholder for very long  it only means that the Bills have failed to find their franchise QB.  Rather , they should be a supporter of giving Allen a little more time to prepare to make the jump to starting NFL QB. 

[Sig1Hunter]

4 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

Save the keystrokes 26 is king of the Nate Haters 

 

But, why? Why hate on a guy who is a member of your favorite team? Dude's had a very good preseason,  and if he is named the starter it's because he's earned it.  26CB has redeeming qualities as a poster,  but he's showing himself to be a close minded hater. Not many worse things than that,  as a message board poster, IMO.

 

BTW- that throw to Reilly in between three defenders was a thing of beauty.  Nate has, at the very least, shown the ability to learn and improve. 

Edited August 27, 2018 by Sig1Hunter

[Lfod]

37 minutes ago, Sig1Hunter said:

But, why? Why hate on a guy who is a member of your favorite team? Dude's had a very good preseason,  and if he is named the starter it's because he's earned it.  26CB has redeeming qualities as a poster,  but he's showing himself to be a close minded hater. Not many worse things than that,  as a message board poster, IMO.

 

BTW- that throw to Reilly in between three defenders was a thing of beauty.  Nate has, at the very least, shown the ability to learn and improve. 

It's because Tyrod was benched when people still believed in him. Peterman was the bad guy and being the disaster it was lends credence to thier view on him. Some people on this board didn't want to bench Tyrod for Peterman. 26CB was one of those people and I definitely understand it leaving a bad impression of Peterman on him. 

 

I don't blame anyone for needing to see it in a real game to believe it. The guy they don't think can cut it is looking like the front runner. I can see that being frustrating.

 

Remember there was a time we all jumped on the bandwagon before saying Peterman can! I know I'm doing it myself and I did it before. I literally told 26cb that at the time Peterman would be better than Tyrod. I'm here again saying yea Peterman looks good just chill out. 

 

I'm definitely on team Peterman right now but I can understand why some people choose not to be on the bandwagon. 

 

Only one person is going to convince Nathan Peterman doubters. That is Nathan Peterman. I enjoy the discussion but I'm not going to change anyones mind. 

 

It's going to take Nathan Peterman winning games in the regular season. If that happens I assume we will all enjoy it.

 

 

 

Edited August 27, 2018 by Lfod

[Strethor]

When Peterman throws that ball with anticipation and the WR gets 2 steps and gracefully catches the ball in stride its a !@#$ing beautiful thing 

 

 

[John from Riverside]

1 hour ago, Boatdrinks said:

At this point, no Bills fan should really be a “ supporter “ of Nate Peterman.He is what he is, and if he’s the  placeholder for very long  it only means that the Bills have failed to find their franchise QB.  Rather , they should be a supporter of giving Allen a little more time to prepare to make the jump to starting NFL QB. 

You shouldnt be a supporter of a player on your team?

 

I understand not championing him to be the future of the team.....I think every one KNOWS he is not the future of the team......but nothing wrong with supporting a bills player....in the end its about wins

[greeneblitz]

lol "preseason stats" are meaningless.

[Boatdrinks]

4 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

You shouldnt be a supporter of a player on your team?

 

I understand not championing him to be the future of the team.....I think every one KNOWS he is not the future of the team......but nothing wrong with supporting a bills player....in the end its about wins

That’s not what I said. I said a supporter of “ Nate Peterman” rather than supporter of the Bills in general. The longer NP starts ( if he does) means the guy drafted to be “ the franchise” isn’t. That’s a bad thing if you’re a fan of the Bills. Not so bad if you are just a self described “ Peterman supporter”. It’s not the same thing. 

[John from Riverside]

Just now, Boatdrinks said:

That’s not what I said. I said a supporter of “ Nate Peterman” rather than supporter of the Bills in general. The longer NP starts ( if he does) means the guy drafted to be “ the franchise” isn’t. That’s a bad thing if you’re a fan of the Bills. Not so bad if you are just a self described “ Peterman supporter”. It’s not the same thing. 

ahhh got it thanks

[transplantbillsfan]

1 hour ago, Boatdrinks said:

At this point, no Bills fan should really be a “ supporter “ of Nate Peterman.He is what he is, and if he’s the  placeholder for very long  it only means that the Bills have failed to find their franchise QB.  Rather , they should be a supporter of giving Allen a little more time to prepare to make the jump to starting NFL QB. 

 

I'm a supporter of winning the most possible games while properly developing our young Franchise QB.

 

Frankly, if our OL wasn't so bad, I think Allen's development happens best and quickest on the field with live game action.

 

Right now it's purely the fright fest of an OL I've seen this preseason that gives me pause in starting Allen, which might actually still be the way to go, anyway.

 

I trust McDermott's judgement and I trust he'll be quick to course correct quickly if need be, as he did when we played the Chargers last year.

[Big Turk]

Peterman has looked mostly good in his time playing so far. The only issue I have is he still has limitations with the out breaking routes on the sideline and 2 of his throws this preseason that were incomplete on those passes were dropped pick 6's by the other team. Those are not always going to be dropped, so he either needs to stop throwing those or only throw those when there is a lot of cushion...

 

At this point I think he has to be the starter week 1 if this is truly a fair competition. He has looked good but I still think Allen takes over at some point during the year once he gets a little more seasoning in practice.

[26CornerBlitz]

 

Vic must be a "hater" too.  

[Teddy KGB]

5 hours ago, Sig1Hunter said:

But, why? Why hate on a guy who is a member of your favorite team? Dude's had a very good preseason,  and if he is named the starter it's because he's earned it.  26CB has redeeming qualities as a poster,  but he's showing himself to be a close minded hater. Not many worse things than that,  as a message board poster, IMO.

 

BTW- that throw to Reilly in between three defenders was a thing of beauty.  Nate has, at the very least, shown the ability to learn and improve. 

 

26 corner is a Church of Tyrod guy who cried about Taylor’s benching for Peterman for months.  

 

Guess it’s gonna bleed into this season too.   

[The Process]

Since the out route issue has been so widely publicized....get CBs to bite and try to jump the route. Hit Clay over the middle as if he's the second read.....the out was never in consideration. Easy peazy from my recliner!

[26CornerBlitz]

3 minutes ago, The Process said:

Since the out route issue has been so widely publicized....get CBs to bite and try to jump the route. Hit Clay over the middle as if he's the second read.....the out was never in consideration. Easy peazy from my recliner!

 

Will there be time for whatever QB is playing to do that behind the OL?  Not so easy.

[Bangarang]

If Allen were putting up Peterman’s numbers then we would all be jumping for joy and slapping hands. But since he’s not the chosen one and didn’t light it up his first start as a rookie we can dismiss it.

[The Process]

49 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

Will there be time for whatever QB is playing to do that behind the OL?  Not so easy.

Oh yeah.....that would require another second in the pocket....one can dream.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

8 hours ago, apuszczalowski said:

But he isn't throwing picks in the preseason, and if you take away the bad games (or parts of games) he is a tremendous talent that can carry a team until the other guy is ready

 

Its not like there is a difference between regular season and preseason, he will look just as great once teams cater their defence to him and actually gameplan.....

 

The only difference that I can see in the offence between him and Taylor is that Peterman might complete the occasional pass for the first down that Taylor would have completed using his legs. The offence still seems to struggle to keep drives alive and score points.....

what is in bold is debatable to some.   

 

(not me) 

8 hours ago, ScottLaw said:

Lol.

 

What about the turnovers? Peterman almost had the same amount of turnovers in one half that Taylor had all year in 2017.

 

 

that was true - last season.  Who knows how much he may have improved.    Already (based on my recollection from a year ago) Nate was horrible under pressure. That seems to have improved.  its that one damn play to the right sideline that needs to be abolished that kills him.

 

Josh was tentative yesterday, maybe a bit unsure of himself thrust in as the starter, on national TV.  

If you want to see what we saw yesterday throughout September then start Josh. 

8 hours ago, NewDayBills said:

9 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

I don't care about TT. He's gone and Peterman is here with this team in 2018 in Daboll's offense behind a porous OL. It's pretty weak trying to justify Peterman with a 2017 comparison to a QB who's not here.

 

Peterman is who he is on his own merits which is the same guy until he shows otherwise in real game scenarios. There are enough warning signs for me with his limitations to say he'll have trouble against 1st team defenses at regular season speed. 

Peterman is not the same guy though, he is on fire, completely different QB, drastically improved.

Not even the word of God will change his mind on Nate.   

8 hours ago, ScottLaw said:

Lmao.

 

IT IS PRESEASON.

And preseason is where the coaches evaluate how much layers develop throughout camp and from the season before. 

 

just saying 

 

some crusade you have there 26.    

How many people have argued against you(r bias)?  

 

Let it go.  

5 hours ago, Boatdrinks said:

That’s not what I said. I said a supporter of “ Nate Peterman” rather than supporter of the Bills in general. The longer NP starts ( if he does) means the guy drafted to be “ the franchise” isn’t. That’s a bad thing if you’re a fan of the Bills. Not so bad if you are just a self described “ Peterman supporter”. It’s not the same thing. 

Yeah, but Josh Allen was drafted to be "that guy"  

 

Why was he hesitant?  to much pressure too soon?  That may be a great learning experience but it may also be a hindrance 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

7 hours ago, Sig1Hunter said:

But, why? Why hate on a guy who is a member of your favorite team? Dude's had a very good preseason,  and if he is named the starter it's because he's earned it.  26CB has redeeming qualities as a poster,  but he's showing himself to be a close minded hater. Not many worse things than that,  as a message board poster, IMO.

 

BTW- that throw to Reilly in between three defenders was a thing of beauty.  Nate has, at the very least, shown the ability to learn and improve. 

he has redeeming qualities for bringing stories here to TBD.  His opinion and analysis are in doubt because of his obvious bias. 

 

the proof in all throughout this thread.  

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

 

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[nedboy7]

When you don’t know how to deal w a different opinion you call that guy a hater.  5th grade logic 101. 

And then you post. “Mad bro?”  

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

4 minutes ago, nedboy7 said:

When you don’t know how to deal w a different opinion you call that guy a hater.  5th grade logic 101. 

And then you post. “Mad bro?”  

who are you referring to?   

 

it would be nice to know.  

 

I'm a hater too.  Welcome to the cub. 

[Beast]

We’ll see. I have a feeling we will be seeing some pick 6’s in a couple weeks. 

[SWATeam]

17 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

He's got the smarts to be a starter, but lacks the arm and poise under fire until he proves that he does in real games. 

Did you see the out to Kerley?

[MJS]

Agree on the outs. He definitely does not have the arm for that.

 

It is a big limitation only being able to throw between the numbers, but I guess they can do more screens and wheel routes to get out to the sidelines.

4 minutes ago, SWATeam said:

Did you see the out to Kerley?

 

Deep outs he can do, because that is a touch pass, but 5 and 10 yard outs and curl routes require getting the ball into the receiver's hands very quickly.

[Steptide]

Is there a video anywhere of all Peterman's throws vs all of Allen's? I'd really like to see both.