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Trent Murphy - Should we be worried?


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On 8/17/2018 at 10:19 AM, wppete said:

We really haven't seen anything from Trent Murphy in Camp or in the first preseason game. He is coming off a very bad knee injury and a PED suspension. Now it seems like he has a groin issue that is keeping him off the field. Should we start to be concerned if we don't see him in the pre season games? Should Bean seriously look into trying to get Khalil Mack if possible? 

If Trent !@#$ing Murphy’s health is the reason Beane isn’t considering Khalil Mack, I’d fire him.

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12 hours ago, Lurker said:

Too many people forget how vets played the PRESEASON under Levy.    August was for draft picks and second-teamers.   September was for the pros.

 

I expect our FA acquisitions to be ready for the Ravens game as well...

 

There's a slight difference between a team that backed into the playoffs with 9 wins and lots of luck after missing them for 17 years, and a team that dominated its division and conference for most of a decade.

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7 hours ago, BringBackOrton said:

If Trent !@#$ing Murphy’s health is the reason Beane isn’t considering Khalil Mack, I’d fire him.

 

Bean has to consider the salary. Just at DE we have some pretty big salaries and also having Mack’s salary wouldn’t work.

We would have to trade Jerry hughes get his big salary off the books. Shaq is not cheap either as a first round pick and Murphy is not tradable now with his injuries and he has a $10million salary. 

 

Trade Hughes and Shaq and a 2nd round pick for Mack and this works. But Murphy has to

be healthy or Mack trade might not be possible if he would be available for trade. 

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11 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

Who says that he isn’t

As fans we have no idea what Beanie is doing. I was just saying I hope he is at least inquiring about Mack. I wouldn't give up 2 1st rd picks for him but I would give up a 1st and a 4th. He is still young and is a top 3 player at a key position and he seems to want to play for Buffalo.

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20 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said:

As fans we have no idea what Beanie is doing. I was just saying I hope he is at least inquiring about Mack. I wouldn't give up 2 1st rd picks for him but I would give up a 1st and a 4th. He is still young and is a top 3 player at a key position and he seems to want to play for Buffalo.

Would love to have Mack on the team

This year would have to give up both high draft picks and compensation

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On 8/17/2018 at 8:39 AM, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

Trent Murphy signed a 3 year, $22,500,000 contract with the Buffalo Bills, including a $5,250,000 signing bonus, $10,375,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $7,500,000. In 2018, Murphy will earn a base salary of $2,625,000, a signing bonus of $5,250,000 and a workout bonus of $100,000, while carrying a cap hit of $4,475,000 and a dead cap value of $7,975,000.

 

They should’ve had an injury-based incentive bonus

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On 8/20/2018 at 8:31 PM, C.Biscuit97 said:

His agents wouldn’t agree to that. 

 

People say this all the time as if players have no other options and just accept what ever they are offered. "We will pay you $1 and then $14,999,999 if you are healthy and good. Accept?"

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Just now, John from Riverside said:

Its pre season.....if this continues to the regular season I will be worried.

 

Groins are tricky things.....Robert Woods had this much of the time he was with us

 

But he has tried a comeback already that lasted less than one session. There is a very real risk he doesn't play this year. 

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1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

 

The Redskins typically rank in the bottom half to third in the league in total defense.  I wouldn't base any defensive personnel decision based on what the Redskins would or would not do.  The biggest problem I potentially see with Trent Murphy is his game time availability, that we'll soon find out.

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2 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

It's always something with this guy.  Groin, ankle, and now a knee. 

.....and that's the bottom line. He's no help if he can't get out of the trainer's room. Made of glass apparently.

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He hardly seems like an impact player. That's my real concern with him. Leslie Frazier called him their "big signing" in camp, but we're half way through the season and he has 14 tackles and 3 sacks in part time action. He was supposed to be an upgrade over Shaq Lawson but I haven't seen it. He's a better pass rusher and a much worse run defender so he's just a rotational player at this point.

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On ‎8‎/‎17‎/‎2018 at 10:47 AM, DrDawkinstein said:

What was the high risk?

come on, a Dr. should understand risks.

 

Spending about 8 mill on the cap(if cut after this year) and getting very little production for a previously injury prone player.

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8 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

Soon to be two.  Such an ardent defender of all things Bills in almost every scenario. 

No this is common sense......making evaluations in season in the FIRST season are just projecting and not based on anything tangible (much like defending a certain QB that will remain nameless)

 

I look at what players have done at the END of the season because they can go off and end up with 10 sacks.....

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1 minute ago, John from Riverside said:

No this is common sense......making evaluations in season in the FIRST season are just projecting and not based on anything tangible (much like defending a certain QB that will remain nameless)

 

I look at what players have done at the END of the season because they can go off and end up with 10 sacks.....

 

Common sense? This isn't Trent Murphy's 1st season nor is it the 1st time he's had trouble staying on the field due to injury. 

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1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

Common sense? This isn't Trent Murphy's 1st season nor is it the 1st time he's had trouble staying on the field due to injury. 

I see.....so if a player plays one year for another team and gets injured.....and he misses a couple of games in the 1st year with OUR team....that player should automatically be dismissed?  Injuries happen.

 

Like I said...I will wait until the end of the season and look at his play for us as a whole.

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1 minute ago, John from Riverside said:

I see.....so if a player plays one year for another team and gets injured.....and he misses a couple of games in the 1st year with OUR team....that player should automatically be dismissed?  Injuries happen.

 

Like I said...I will wait until the end of the season and look at his play for us as a whole.

 

He previously missed an entire season with a torn ACL and served a suspension for PEDs.  Now he's been plagued with an assortment of injuries with the Bills where he's out for the 2nd straight game, but yeah no worries. 

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Just now, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

He previously missed an entire season with a torn ACL and served a suspension for PEDs.  Now he's been plagued with an assortment of injuries with the Bills where he's out for the 2nd straight game, but yeah no worries. 

Players get hurt.....he will have missed exactly 2 real games for the bills.

 

I dont get concerned about things before there is a reason to....our D is playing fine....our Offense is the tire fire.

 

If by the end of the year he has missed several games and not put up any production in the games he has played THEN I will get concerned about him.

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9 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

No this is common sense......making evaluations in season in the FIRST season are just projecting and not based on anything tangible (much like defending a certain QB that will remain nameless)

 

I look at what players have done at the END of the season because they can go off and end up with 10 sacks.....

So why even bother to comment during the season? Just to piss on others for actually having an opinion?

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11 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

Players get hurt.....he will have missed exactly 2 real games for the bills.

 

I dont get concerned about things before there is a reason to....our D is playing fine....our Offense is the tire fire.

 

If by the end of the year he has missed several games and not put up any production in the games he has played THEN I will get concerned about him.

 

This is probably the best way to look at it.  See if his availability is spotty ala EJ Gaines, if it is then don't bring him back next year.  If he only misses these two games, for example, and his production is at least decent, he probably is worth bringing back.  Trent is not the biggest problem we have right now and there seems to be no reason to get rid of him at this point; it's not like we're vying for a playoff spot.

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