BringBackOrton Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 On 8/17/2018 at 10:19 AM, wppete said: We really haven't seen anything from Trent Murphy in Camp or in the first preseason game. He is coming off a very bad knee injury and a PED suspension. Now it seems like he has a groin issue that is keeping him off the field. Should we start to be concerned if we don't see him in the pre season games? Should Bean seriously look into trying to get Khalil Mack if possible? If Trent !@#$ing Murphy’s health is the reason Beane isn’t considering Khalil Mack, I’d fire him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 This may be the worst thread of the summer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 I wish I made 22m to get hurt and not go to work. nice life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 9 hours ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: Beanie should look into acquiring Mack regardless of what is going on with Murphy. Who says that he isn’t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 12 hours ago, Lurker said: Too many people forget how vets played the PRESEASON under Levy. August was for draft picks and second-teamers. September was for the pros. I expect our FA acquisitions to be ready for the Ravens game as well... There's a slight difference between a team that backed into the playoffs with 9 wins and lots of luck after missing them for 17 years, and a team that dominated its division and conference for most of a decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 I think there is a very good chance Murphy starts the year on IR. And I mean a very good chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Call me snake-bitten but I worry about any Buffalo Bill named Trent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted August 20, 2018 Author Share Posted August 20, 2018 7 hours ago, BringBackOrton said: If Trent !@#$ing Murphy’s health is the reason Beane isn’t considering Khalil Mack, I’d fire him. Bean has to consider the salary. Just at DE we have some pretty big salaries and also having Mack’s salary wouldn’t work. We would have to trade Jerry hughes get his big salary off the books. Shaq is not cheap either as a first round pick and Murphy is not tradable now with his injuries and he has a $10million salary. Trade Hughes and Shaq and a 2nd round pick for Mack and this works. But Murphy has to be healthy or Mack trade might not be possible if he would be available for trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 11 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Who says that he isn’t As fans we have no idea what Beanie is doing. I was just saying I hope he is at least inquiring about Mack. I wouldn't give up 2 1st rd picks for him but I would give up a 1st and a 4th. He is still young and is a top 3 player at a key position and he seems to want to play for Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 20 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: As fans we have no idea what Beanie is doing. I was just saying I hope he is at least inquiring about Mack. I wouldn't give up 2 1st rd picks for him but I would give up a 1st and a 4th. He is still young and is a top 3 player at a key position and he seems to want to play for Buffalo. Would love to have Mack on the team This year would have to give up both high draft picks and compensation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSB Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 This was the one move by the FO I did not like. Don’t think this is going to end well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Guy who had one good season, missed all of last year with injury, coming off a PED suspension. What could go wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 On 8/17/2018 at 8:39 AM, OldTimeAFLGuy said: Trent Murphy signed a 3 year, $22,500,000 contract with the Buffalo Bills, including a $5,250,000 signing bonus, $10,375,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $7,500,000. In 2018, Murphy will earn a base salary of $2,625,000, a signing bonus of $5,250,000 and a workout bonus of $100,000, while carrying a cap hit of $4,475,000 and a dead cap value of $7,975,000. They should’ve had an injury-based incentive bonus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 9 minutes ago, LittleJoeCartwright said: They should’ve had an injury-based incentive bonus His agents wouldn’t agree to that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 (edited) On 8/20/2018 at 8:31 PM, C.Biscuit97 said: His agents wouldn’t agree to that. People say this all the time as if players have no other options and just accept what ever they are offered. "We will pay you $1 and then $14,999,999 if you are healthy and good. Accept?" Edited August 22, 2018 by GunnerBill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Its pre season.....if this continues to the regular season I will be worried. Groins are tricky things.....Robert Woods had this much of the time he was with us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Just now, John from Riverside said: Its pre season.....if this continues to the regular season I will be worried. Groins are tricky things.....Robert Woods had this much of the time he was with us But he has tried a comeback already that lasted less than one session. There is a very real risk he doesn't play this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerme1 Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Well I'm worried. I wonder if I'll ever see him in a Bills uni at this point. Hyperbole maybe but can't judge someone I've never seen as a Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 34 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: "If Robert Woods was a true #2 WR, the pass catching-needy #Bills would not have let him get away..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said: The Redskins typically rank in the bottom half to third in the league in total defense. I wouldn't base any defensive personnel decision based on what the Redskins would or would not do. The biggest problem I potentially see with Trent Murphy is his game time availability, that we'll soon find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Hopefully on track for week 1 in BAL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 It's always something with this guy. Groin, ankle, and now a knee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderweb Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 2 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: It's always something with this guy. Groin, ankle, and now a knee. .....and that's the bottom line. He's no help if he can't get out of the trainer's room. Made of glass apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 his body can't handle football. He should be a coach or color commentator after this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 43 minutes ago, Spiderweb said: .....and that's the bottom line. He's no help if he can't get out of the trainer's room. Made of glass apparently. The man has missed ONE game 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 4 hours ago, John from Riverside said: The man has missed ONE game Soon to be two. Such an ardent defender of all things Bills in almost every scenario. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 This one is on the coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 He hardly seems like an impact player. That's my real concern with him. Leslie Frazier called him their "big signing" in camp, but we're half way through the season and he has 14 tackles and 3 sacks in part time action. He was supposed to be an upgrade over Shaq Lawson but I haven't seen it. He's a better pass rusher and a much worse run defender so he's just a rotational player at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 On 8/17/2018 at 10:47 AM, DrDawkinstein said: What was the high risk? come on, a Dr. should understand risks. Spending about 8 mill on the cap(if cut after this year) and getting very little production for a previously injury prone player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 8 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Soon to be two. Such an ardent defender of all things Bills in almost every scenario. No this is common sense......making evaluations in season in the FIRST season are just projecting and not based on anything tangible (much like defending a certain QB that will remain nameless) I look at what players have done at the END of the season because they can go off and end up with 10 sacks..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: No this is common sense......making evaluations in season in the FIRST season are just projecting and not based on anything tangible (much like defending a certain QB that will remain nameless) I look at what players have done at the END of the season because they can go off and end up with 10 sacks..... Common sense? This isn't Trent Murphy's 1st season nor is it the 1st time he's had trouble staying on the field due to injury. Edited November 3, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Common sense? This isn't Trent Murphy's 1st season nor is it the 1st time he's had trouble staying on the field due to injury. I see.....so if a player plays one year for another team and gets injured.....and he misses a couple of games in the 1st year with OUR team....that player should automatically be dismissed? Injuries happen. Like I said...I will wait until the end of the season and look at his play for us as a whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: I see.....so if a player plays one year for another team and gets injured.....and he misses a couple of games in the 1st year with OUR team....that player should automatically be dismissed? Injuries happen. Like I said...I will wait until the end of the season and look at his play for us as a whole. He previously missed an entire season with a torn ACL and served a suspension for PEDs. Now he's been plagued with an assortment of injuries with the Bills where he's out for the 2nd straight game, but yeah no worries. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: He previously missed an entire season with a torn ACL and served a suspension for PEDs. Now he's been plagued with an assortment of injuries with the Bills where he's out for the 2nd straight game, but yeah no worries. Players get hurt.....he will have missed exactly 2 real games for the bills. I dont get concerned about things before there is a reason to....our D is playing fine....our Offense is the tire fire. If by the end of the year he has missed several games and not put up any production in the games he has played THEN I will get concerned about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 9 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: No this is common sense......making evaluations in season in the FIRST season are just projecting and not based on anything tangible (much like defending a certain QB that will remain nameless) I look at what players have done at the END of the season because they can go off and end up with 10 sacks..... So why even bother to comment during the season? Just to piss on others for actually having an opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Comment away sir......and I will add my comments as well.....sorry they dont agree with yours but you will live Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 11 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Players get hurt.....he will have missed exactly 2 real games for the bills. I dont get concerned about things before there is a reason to....our D is playing fine....our Offense is the tire fire. If by the end of the year he has missed several games and not put up any production in the games he has played THEN I will get concerned about him. This is probably the best way to look at it. See if his availability is spotty ala EJ Gaines, if it is then don't bring him back next year. If he only misses these two games, for example, and his production is at least decent, he probably is worth bringing back. Trent is not the biggest problem we have right now and there seems to be no reason to get rid of him at this point; it's not like we're vying for a playoff spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts