Kirby Jackson Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 I know that he was a guy a lot of us were hoping would hit the market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 I always expected him to sign. Never thought he was an option for Buffalo. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: I always expected him to sign. Never thought he was an option for Buffalo. Same, but I was HOPING he would hit the market so other WR options had a littleeeee less competition from teams as they focused their attention on signing him. WR market looks thinnnnnnnn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornette's Commentary Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 (edited) Diggs and Thielen will have a field day against us. Edited July 31, 2018 by Cornette's Commentary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 5 minutes ago, PaattMaann said: Same, but I was HOPING he would hit the market so other WR options had a littleeeee less competition from teams as they focused their attention on signing him. WR market looks thinnnnnnnn Yep. Our cap money next year needs to be spent on o-line because that is the only spot where the Bills have a genuine need and the FA class is likely to have major upgrades. I expect us to sign one FA G/C and one FA tackle. Then possibly we could see them go the FA route for their next bellcow RB.... Bell and Coleman are almost certainly hitting the market and there is a reasonable chance that Ajayi does and David Johnson might depending on what Arizona see out of him this year off his injury. The other spots we have needs: TE, WR, CB (Vontae could extend), pass rusher.... the FA classes look relatively weak. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Yep. Our cap money next year needs to be spent on o-line because that is the only spot where the Bills have a genuine need and the FA class is likely to have major upgrades. I expect us to sign one FA G/C and one FA tackle. Then possibly we could see them go the FA route for their next bellcow RB.... Bell and Coleman are almost certainly hitting the market and there is a reasonable chance that Ajayi does and David Johnson might depending on what Arizona see out of him this year off his injury. The other spots we have needs: TE, WR, CB (Vontae could extend), pass rusher.... the FA classes look relatively weak. big reason Beane held onto those draft picks next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 1 minute ago, PaattMaann said: big reason Beane held onto those draft picks next year I wouldn't be against him flipping a pick to someone for a wide receiver if one came available somewhere (either before the trade deadline or after the 2018 season). The one I have my eye on is TY Hilton. He will have two years on his deal after this season with $13m and $15m cap hits respectively. If the Colts are still rebuilding (and who knows with Luck's shoulder) or Hilton isn't quite the culture fit they are looking for..... could you send a 3rd maybe to Indy for him? Buy yourself some space to find a receiver in the 2020 or 2021 draft rather than potentially being desperate for one in 2019 which allows you to get one of those stud D-linemen in 2019. It is one way of going about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Just now, GunnerBill said: I wouldn't be against him flipping a pick to someone for a wide receiver if one came available somewhere (either before the trade deadline or after the 2018 season). The one I have my eye on is TY Hilton. He will have two years on his deal after this season with $13m and $15m cap hits respectively. If the Colts are still rebuilding (and who knows with Luck's shoulder) or Hilton isn't quite the culture fit they are looking for..... could you send a 3rd maybe to Indy for him? Buy yourself some space to find a receiver in the 2020 or 2021 draft rather than potentially being desperate for one in 2019 which allows you to get one of those stud D-linemen in 2019. It is one way of going about it. Don't even get me excited about a trade like that. But Hilton for a 3rd? I think thats a bit of a stretch, rebuilding or not. would you give up our 2nd if thats what it took? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 17 minutes ago, Cornette's Commentary said: Diggs and Thielen will have a field day against us. Doubtful. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Just now, PaattMaann said: Don't even get me excited about a trade like that. But Hilton for a 3rd? I think thats a bit of a stretch, rebuilding or not. would you give up our 2nd if thats what it took? Possibly at the end of the year I would. Would need to see what the draft class looked like at that point. If I was sending a 2nd I'd want later pick back in return. I am not that sure it is a stretch though. He will be 29 by the end of the 2018 season.... the value for a 29 year old receiver isn't that high. Could take a 2nd... might depend on his 2018 production. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 I never thought he'd hit the market. He's a hero in Minn. You don't let those guys go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Power of the turtle. Good for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 (edited) Leave some balls for “Hooked on a Thielen” (my fantasy team name) 1 minute ago, Commonsense said: Power of the turtle. Good for him. Urban Meyer wanted him to be a Buckeye so bad. He wanted to stay home. He was on a terrible team in college , but can’t argue with the results of today. Edited July 31, 2018 by YoloinOhio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 I’m curious how Beane values the wr position. Carolina didn’t pay wrs but they did pay Olsen. Kind of patriots like. Paid oline and rbs, d line and lbs and franchised Norman. But did they ever have a wr that was worth it? Steve smith got big money but left cause of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Cornette's Commentary said: Diggs and Thielen will have a field day against us. Agreed. When I look at the Bills I can't think of any positions screaming more for help than our DBs. EDIT: As this is starting to become an issue, I'm being sarcastic. I thought that was apparent. Our DBs were great last year and should be just as strong or better this year. Obviously that wasn't clear enough, although I easily thought it would. My apologies for expecting too much. Edited July 31, 2018 by dollars 2 donuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offyourocker Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 58 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I know that he was a guy a lot of us were hoping would hit the market. There won't be anybody worth signing at WR for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Looks like Anthony Barr is the odd man out in Minny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornette's Commentary Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: Looks like Anthony Barr is the odd man out in Minny Who would you rather have: Anthony Barr or Khalil Mack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 5 minutes ago, Cornette's Commentary said: Who would you rather have: Anthony Barr or Khalil Mack? Mack every single time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornette's Commentary Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 1 minute ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: Mack every single time What would you give up for him? A 2019 1st and 2nd, a 2020 1st and Jerry Hughes? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 There was no chance he was hitting the market. Guy is a stud. He’s a good receiver too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 How do the Vikings have any cap room left? Cousins, Diggs, Reiff, Remmers, Griffen, Hunter, Rhodes, H. Smith, Richardson...how is it possible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 40 minutes ago, offyourocker said: There won't be anybody worth signing at WR for us Benjamin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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aristocrat Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 900 yards gets you 14 mil? wowza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Cornette's Commentary said: Diggs and Thielen will have a field day against us. Why do you say that??? Seriously please back that statement up? Nothing more than a troll comment....yer good for that we all know that here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 1 hour ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: Looks like Anthony Barr is the odd man out in Minny Barr be a great strong side LB to replace an aged Lorenzo Alexander in 2019! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 29 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: How do the Vikings have any cap room left? Cousins, Diggs, Reiff, Remmers, Griffen, Hunter, Rhodes, H. Smith, Richardson...how is it possible? They are so loaded. They need to make a run this year. Before Diggs contract they are projected to have: 2018: $13m in cap space 2019: $17.8m in cap space 2020: $38m in cap space In 2021 based on existing contracts and before Diggs they will already have $107m committed and only 16 players under contract. The cap crunch is coming for them. They have been backloading and backloading and backloading. But they have a window now and they are going hard for it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted July 31, 2018 Author Share Posted July 31, 2018 39 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: How do the Vikings have any cap room left? Cousins, Diggs, Reiff, Remmers, Griffen, Hunter, Rhodes, H. Smith, Richardson...how is it possible? That’s where I am at. I don’t get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 49 minutes ago, Jay_Fixit said: There was no chance he was hitting the market. Guy is a stud. He’s a good receiver too. Do you have a Fletch to English conversion app? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Cornette's Commentary said: What would you give up for him? A 2019 1st and 2nd, a 2020 1st and Jerry Hughes? He's a UFA next year. Why give up assets? 58 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: Barr be a great strong side LB to replace an aged Lorenzo Alexander in 2019! Barr and Edmunds as jumbo LB's. I'd be shook if I was an opposing QB Edited July 31, 2018 by FeelingOnYouboty 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornette's Commentary Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, FeelingOnYouboty said: He's a UFA next year. Why give up assets? Barr and Edmunds as jumbo LB's. I'd be shook if I was an opposing QB They can franchise him again, if they want, and try to get more assets in return for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Just now, Cornette's Commentary said: They can franchise him again, if they want, and try to get more assets in return for him. Great chance we're picking in the Top 10 next year and it's a strong DE class. I'm hoping for Bosa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornette's Commentary Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Just now, FeelingOnYouboty said: Great chance we're picking in the Top 10 next year and it's a strong DE class. I'm hoping for Bosa. Agreed. That's why, to me. it makes no sense when I see posters say that they would be willing to give up multiple 1sts for Mack when Bosa could very well be in play for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 1 hour ago, thebandit27 said: How do the Vikings have any cap room left? Cousins, Diggs, Reiff, Remmers, Griffen, Hunter, Rhodes, H. Smith, Richardson...how is it possible? Probably the same reason why the Rams still have cap room left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 1 minute ago, Mark Vader said: Probably the same reason why the Rams still have cap room left. The Rams still have Goff on a rookie deal and had to let big money players like Watkins and Trumaine Johnson leave in FA, plus cut guys like Robert Quinn and Tavon Austin. Minnesota just keeps on signing UFAs and their own FAs to huge money deals without hesitation or having to release anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted July 31, 2018 Author Share Posted July 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: The Rams still have Goff on a rookie deal and had to let big money players like Watkins and Trumaine Johnson leave in FA, plus cut guys like Robert Quinn and Tavon Austin. Minnesota just keeps on signing UFAs and their own FAs to huge money deals without hesitation or having to release anyone. Barr has to go then right? Maybe thats why wrapped up Hunter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 3 hours ago, Cornette's Commentary said: Diggs and Thielen will have a field day against us. If there is one part I am pretty confident in, it is the Bills secondary. I think Everson griffin is the one who will be having a field day:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornette's Commentary Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Just now, billsfan11 said: If there is one part I am pretty confident in, it is the Bills secondary. I think Everson griffin is the one who will be having a field day:( If the front 7 can't pressure Cousins, I don't see how the secondary can hold off Diggs, Thielen and Rudolph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billykay Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 1 hour ago, ScottLaw said: Yea they might be forced to pony up for Benjamin even if he doesn't have a good year. Need Zay to really show something this year and even with that I think Beane will need to make a trade for a legitimate threat opposite Benjamin considering the lack of FA WRs and next years draft lacking the position as of right now. Have to let the season play out though. I don't think that the Bills are going to pony up c $15m for Benjamin. Depending on our record at the trade deadline, we might see a Watkins type trade at that time. jmho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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