Real McClappy Posted July 10, 2018 Posted July 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, njbuff said: But, of course, the first reaction is to come down on McCoy. All of us know nothing about this situation and since we know nothing about it, the first reaction is to find McCoy guilty. I't horrible, but that is the way people's minds work. One of the few logical ones on here.
Boatdrinks Posted July 10, 2018 Posted July 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, bills.avfc said: i don't think it's that. for me at least, it's just that this specific type of allegation has to be treated a bit differently due to the ramifications of the expression of any kind of doubt. it's not about instantly believing what the woman said at all, it's just that you also should not cast any doubt on the accusations. it's important to stay completely impartial. Doubt should always be cast upon accusations rather than the accused. We live under a justice system based on reasonable doubt, after all. Reasonable doubt of guilt should always be assumed until proven otherwise. It is on the accuser to prove guilt. Innocence is presumed. The court of public opinion would be a lousy system to live under, as the rush to judgement shows. 1 1
njbuff Posted July 10, 2018 Posted July 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: If early in the morning is like 4:00, then it's impossible that McCoy himself is involved.
CommonCents Posted July 10, 2018 Posted July 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, Bray Wyatt said: Where did you see this? TMZ, looks like 26 copied it directly. I’m on a cell phone so I can’t keep up lol
TBBills Fan Posted July 10, 2018 Posted July 10, 2018 No matter how this spins and what the truth is, this isnt good
BillsBytheBay Posted July 10, 2018 Posted July 10, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, njbuff said: If early in the morning is like 4:00, then it's impossible that McCoy himself is involved. It's it's A 6 hour drive from Miami to the Florida-Georgia border. He would have to account for more than 12 hours. Unless he flew. 12 minutes ago, bearc012 said: Edited July 10, 2018 by JaxBills
The Real Buffalo Joe Posted July 10, 2018 Posted July 10, 2018 Just now, TBBills Fan said: No matter how this spins and what the truth is, this isnt good Thanks for such a hot take. 2
wiskibreth Posted July 10, 2018 Posted July 10, 2018 (edited) couple things that seem odd... Why would the shutting off of cameras be relevant if McCoy ordered the power off. Cameras need to be powered. Why would anyone who's currently acting through the legal system to evict someone living in their house, then hire a thug to break in and beat said person? Doesn't make sense. Edited July 10, 2018 by wiskibreth 1
Saxum Posted July 10, 2018 Posted July 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Clyde Smith said: Between Zay, Ritchie and Shady, we can have a reality show with all the drama the last few months. Probably get good ratings. And you can join to make them all seem normal?
njbuff Posted July 10, 2018 Posted July 10, 2018 If there was forcible entry, McCoy would pretty much be cleared then, right?
KD in CA Posted July 10, 2018 Posted July 10, 2018 13 minutes ago, bills.avfc said: i don't think it's that. for me at least, it's just that this specific type of allegation has to be treated a bit differently due to the ramifications of the expression of any kind of doubt. it's not about instantly believing what the woman said at all, it's just that you also should not cast any doubt on the accusations. it's important to stay completely impartial. That's the stupidest thing written in this thread yet. Unbelievable.
PirateHookerMD Posted July 10, 2018 Posted July 10, 2018 Seems fairly obvious that Shady did not do this himself. The big question is going to be if he knew about it, if someone from his entourage did it, and if he helped orchestrate or plan it. 1
BillsBytheBay Posted July 10, 2018 Posted July 10, 2018 1 minute ago, wiskibreth said: couple things that seem odd... Why would the shutting off of cameras be relevant is McCoy ordered the power off. Cameras need to be powered. Why would anyone who's currently acting through the legal system to evict someone living in their house, then hire a thug to break in and beat said person? Doesn't make sense. The attack happened after she had the cameras removed.
Uncle Joe Posted July 10, 2018 Posted July 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Clyde Smith said: Between Zay, Ritchie and Shady, we can have a reality show with all the drama the last few months. Probably get good ratings. Don't forget Poyer. We've gone from the Bickering Bills to the Bizarro Bills. We may need to bring back Bania at RB. (OK, Banyard). 1
CommonCents Posted July 10, 2018 Posted July 10, 2018 Just now, wiskibreth said: couple things that seem odd... Why would the shutting off of cameras be relevant is McCoy ordered the power off. Cameras need to be powered. Why would anyone who's currently acting through the legal system to evict someone living in their house, then hire a thug to break in and beat said person? Doesn't make sense. Give me one high profile NFL incident that made sense to any rational thinking human being? 1
blacklabel Posted July 10, 2018 Posted July 10, 2018 29 minutes ago, rodneykm said: This is also the most alarming thing to me as well. Scary how this country is starting to get. Right? People that have formed opinions and found their "facts" on Twitter played a huge role in that orange crap-sack ending up in the White House. It's just crazy to see how controlling the mob mentality can become. 1
NewEraBills Posted July 10, 2018 Posted July 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, JaxBills said: It's it's A 6 hour drive from Miami to the Florida-Georgia border. He would have to account for more than 12 hours. Unless he flew. Hell even then, if he flying Delta to ATL it was most likely delayed. One of the worse airports man. 2
dave mcbride Posted July 10, 2018 Posted July 10, 2018 The missing and highly salient individual in all of this discussion: On January 9, 2006, Marcus Vick was charged with three counts of brandishing a firearm, a Class One misdemeanor,[27][28] in Suffolk, Virginia. A police report alleged that he pointed a gun at a 17-year-old in the parking lot of a McDonald's in Suffolk after Vick's girlfriend had an argument with three people.[29] Vick claimed that the gun in question was a BlackBerry cell phone and that his accusers were trying to blackmail him.[30] On December 14, 2006, a 17-year-old girl from Montgomery County, Virginia, filed a civil lawsuit against Vick accusing him of molestation of a minor, fraud, and additional charges. In the lawsuit, seeking $6.3 million,[5] the girl claimed that when she was 15 (below the legal age of consent in Virginia), she was forced into a sexual situation with Vick, who was 20 years old, over a nearly two-year-long period. She also alleged that Vick offered to provide her alcohol and marijuana and forced her to have sex with other men.[6] On September 15, 2008, the parties agreed to a settlement in the lawsuit.[7] On June 13, 2008, a bicycle officer in Norfolk approached a couple arguing in a car. When asked for identification, Vick allegedly took off, driving the car at high speed. When another officer spotted the car and stopped it, Vick failed a sobriety test. He was charged with DUI, misdemeanor eluding police, driving on the wrong side of a street, reckless driving, driving on a suspended license, and was taken into custody.[31] Vick was living at the time in his brother Michael's riverfront mansion in Suffolk and Michael's condominium in the South Beach section of Miami Beach.[32] He was released on bond later Friday morning.[33][34][35] On October 20, Vick pleaded guilty to DUI. He was sentenced to 12 months in jail, which the judge suspended, a fine of $250, and his Virginia driving license was suspended for a year. He was also convicted of eluding a police officer and driving on the wrong side of the road, and fined $280 on those charges.[8] In August 2009, a judge ordered him to jail for probation violations including failure to complete an alcohol education program, testing positive for marijuana, missed appointments, and failure to pay court costs and fines. Vick was freed on a $25,000 bond and appealed the decision.[36] In January 2013, a judge sentenced Vick to five days in jail for failing to produce adequate documentation about his financial status by a court-ordered deadline. On December 30, Vick was arrested in Forsyth County for a second DUI, driving without a license, and driving with an expired car registration.[37] On April 5, 2016, Vick was charged with assaulting a police officer who was arresting him on a contempt charge in Virginia.[38] On July 11, Vick pleaded guilty in Newport News, Virginia to the resisting arrest charge and was ordered to serve one month in jail.[39] On October 8, 2016, Vick was again arrested on drug possession charges. An officer reportedly detected an odor of marijuana coming from an apartment as they approached it. This odor became stronger after the door was opened by a man inside, who was later identified as Vick.[40]
bills.avfc Posted July 10, 2018 Posted July 10, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: Doubt should always be cast upon accusations rather than the accused. We live under a justice system based on reasonable doubt, after all. Reasonable doubt of guilt should always be assumed until proven otherwise. It is on the accuser to prove guilt. Innocence is presumed. The court of public opinion would be a lousy system to live under, as the rush to judgement shows. when you're part of the investigation, absolutely. it's a necessity to work from that viewpoint. but people not involved and picking sides and nailing their colours to the mast with no knowledge of the situation helps no-one. in fact, it can make it much worse. i'm not saying anyone here is doing that. i just mean in general. Edited July 10, 2018 by bills.avfc
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