Koko78 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, Dr. Who said: I like her and was hoping Barrett would be selected, but she hasn't been a judge all that long. I think her biggest problem is that she sexually assaulted Brett Kavanaugh at a wild kegger held at an unspecified date, time, and place, but may have occurred in either the 20th or 21st centuries. Kavanaugh's lack of knowledge and failure to corroborate this completely true claim is due to his being a blackout drunk, and completely proves the true and accurate accusation. There were 14 other people there who witnessed this brutal and traumatic assault, but their memory problems in not recalling the brutal assault by Judge Barrett on Judge Kavanaugh are due to health/personal problems, and again show that the accusation is accurate. Also, Michael Avanatti has been contacted by a person who swears up and down that, despite her 6 previous perjury convictions, she was also present at a gang rape party where she heard that Judge Barrett participated in assaulting some other unnamed poor, innocent man. Edited October 3, 2018 by Koko78 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 12 minutes ago, Koko78 said: I think her biggest problem is that she sexually assaulted Brett Kavanaugh at a wild kegger held at an unspecified date, time, and place, but may have occurred in either the 20th or 21st centuries. Kavanaugh's lack of knowledge and failure to corroborate this completely true claim is due to his being a blackout drunk, and completely proves the true and accurate accusation. There were 14 other people there who witnessed this brutal and traumatic assault, but their memory problems in not recalling the brutal assault by Judge Barrett on Judge Kavanaugh are due to health/personal problems, and again show that the accusation is accurate. Also, Michael Avanatti has been contacted by a person who swears up and down that, despite her 6 previous perjury convictions, she was also present at a gang rape party where she heard that Judge Barrett participated in assaulting some other unnamed poor, innocent man. Sounds plausible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRC Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 53 minutes ago, KRC said: I will have to see if I can find the ones where they did not join together. From what I can see, Garland joined 27 out of 28 opinions written by Kavanaugh, and Kavanaugh joined 28 out of 30 written by Garland. They differ on some environmental issues: White Stallion Energy Center LLC et. al. v EPA Garland part of the majority Kavanaugh wrote dissent (Supreme Court agreed 5-4) EPA wanted to regulate mercury. Kavanaugh stated that the EPA did not consider the $9.6 billion price tag before putting in place the regulation. Coalition for Responsible Regulation Inc v EPA Garland part of majority Kavanaugh dissented (Supreme Court agreed) EPA wanted to implement a permit process for greenhouse gasses under the Clean Air Act. Kavanaugh stated that the EPA could not implement a permit process solely for greenhouse gasses under the Clean Air Act. However, they did agree on other environmental issues, so it is not across-the-board disagreement. Still working on the third case. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Umm... try running for Senate if you want to dictate how advise and consent works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Umm... try running for Senate if you want to dictate how advise and consent works. For a witness to be dictating to a Senare committee like this, she has got to have committee members directing her. Which itsel would be a gross conflict of interest, as they'd be directly interfering with the investigation, not just holding a hearing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 15 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Is anyone else shocked that the partisan plants masquerading as Ford's attorneys are continuing to play games to obstruct, delay, and #resist? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 11 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Umm... try running for Senate if you want to dictate how advise and consent works. What are the chances that Dr. Ford's schedule won't make her available for an interview for several days or a week or more? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 (edited) 48 minutes ago, keepthefaith said: I would argue that the control apparatus has only been damaged and remains mostly in place. It'll take many years of sustained effort to bring it down. Agreed. It's absolutely an ongoing effort. 16 minutes ago, KRC said: From what I can see, Garland joined 27 out of 28 opinions written by Kavanaugh, and Kavanaugh joined 28 out of 30 written by Garland. They differ on some environmental issues: White Stallion Energy Center LLC et. al. v EPA Garland part of the majority Kavanaugh wrote dissent (Supreme Court agreed 5-4) EPA wanted to regulate mercury. Kavanaugh stated that the EPA did not consider the $9.6 billion price tag before putting in place the regulation. Coalition for Responsible Regulation Inc v EPA Garland part of majority Kavanaugh dissented (Supreme Court agreed) EPA wanted to implement a permit process for greenhouse gasses under the Clean Air Act. Kavanaugh stated that the EPA could not implement a permit process solely for greenhouse gasses under the Clean Air Act. However, they did agree on other environmental issues, so it is not across-the-board disagreement. Still working on the third case. Appreciate it. Edited October 3, 2018 by Deranged Rhino 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dr. Who Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 3 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said: I gotta tell ya, the term "African-American" bugs the **** out of me. My MIL, FIL, and BIL were all born on the continent of Africa and became American citizens. If they had chosen to use African-American, at least it would have been real (they did not). Oh, and they were white (all of them are now deceased). Honestly, unless you were born in another country, IMO you (generic you) don't get to use a hyphen if you are a citizen of the United States. I learned that lesson when I went to Poland (under communist rule) at 12 and was introduced everywhere as, "This is my American cousin." Definitely a pet peeve of mine. ? Yes, I hear you. I remember reading a Raymond Chandler novel many moons ago. There was a character who was a taxi driver and he tells Philip Marlowe he is Spanish American. The difference is he was trying to emphasize the American part so he would not be confused with Mexicans. In any event, I dislike the nomenclature as well. I sometimes use it to avoid the hassle that ensues if you ignore it, but in this case I was simply invoking the POV of the moron class and using the rhetoric as they understand it. 1 hour ago, Koko78 said: I think her biggest problem is that she sexually assaulted Brett Kavanaugh at a wild kegger held at an unspecified date, time, and place, but may have occurred in either the 20th or 21st centuries. Kavanaugh's lack of knowledge and failure to corroborate this completely true claim is due to his being a blackout drunk, and completely proves the true and accurate accusation. There were 14 other people there who witnessed this brutal and traumatic assault, but their memory problems in not recalling the brutal assault by Judge Barrett on Judge Kavanaugh are due to health/personal problems, and again show that the accusation is accurate. Also, Michael Avanatti has been contacted by a person who swears up and down that, despite her 6 previous perjury convictions, she was also present at a gang rape party where she heard that Judge Barrett participated in assaulting some other unnamed poor, innocent man. So corrupt they are nearly beyond satire . . . also, George Soros would like to send you a check for this imporant information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 19 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: But then Feinstein (I can't get used to her new nic of ChiFi yet) wouldn't have been able to use it as a political "winner". And clearly from her "closely held" comments, it was a real winner - SMH. She !@#$ed up. The dems all !@#$ed up on this. They made a mockery of: real sexual assault victims, the Senate, the Supreme Court, and a fair "trial" (innocent until proven guilty). Senator Feinstein - heck, all Democratic Senators - should be very proud of their accomplishments. A blue wave indeed. ? ? (snark tags for the last!) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 7 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: Yes, I hear you. I remember reading a Raymond Chandler novel many moons ago. There was a character who was a taxi driver and he tells Philip Marlowe he is Spanish American. The difference is he was trying to emphasize the American part so he would not be confused with Mexicans. In any event, I dislike the nomenclature as well. I sometimes use it to avoid the hassle that ensues if you ignore it, but in this case I was simply invoking the POV of the moron class and using the rhetoric as they understand it. I struggle with this as well. If someone says they identify as an African-American (which is different from "black", as black people from, let's say England, are not African-American) rather than simply American, then they differentiate themselves from other Americans in an intentional and ongoing way. This serves to create an ongoing divide that cannot possibly be bridged as a sort of self-fulfilling prophecy. Likewise, when someone says they identify primarily as a "black man", they have told me that they first identify as black, and then as a man. This is fundamentally different than identifying first as a man who happens to be black. This is a statement that their "blackness" is more central to them than their masculinity or their humanity; and if they identify that way, they invite others to identify them that way as well. The sooner we can get to a point where we all primarily identify as "man" (as in human), and American rather than some modified hypenation, the better off we'll be. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Avanati out with a new witness. But this one said something that looks really bad for this whole thing. The new witness connects three of the women together and says they all know each other! Have they been talking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 37 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Well, it seems that the FBI investigation is good for Kavanaugh. Feinstein wouldn't want to keep it confidential otherwise. 27 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: also, George Soros would like to send you a check for this imporant information. Well, when he is making out the check, he should keep in mind that my very best friends call me Cash. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Flake sending mixed signals. Now he's saying that he doesn't believe there should be any investigation on Kavanaugh's drinking and that it's hard to judge "excess drinking". That he is content with where the FBI investigation has gone. hmmm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Ford really wants to be interviewed by the FBI. Might she be wanting to correct the record from her testimony in some way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Ford really wants to be interviewed by the FBI. Might she be wanting to correct the record from her testimony in some way? More likely her attorneys just want to waste time and claim that the investigation is tainted because either a.) the FBI didn't interview her thoroughly enough; or b.) the FBI didn't interview her at all. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Koko78 said: More likely her attorneys just want to waste time and claim that the investigation is tainted because either a.) the FBI didn't interview her thoroughly enough; or b.) the FBI didn't interview her at all. There's always that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 (edited) 58 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Avanati out with a new witness. But this one said something that looks really bad for this whole thing. The new witness connects three of the women together and says they all know each other! Have they been talking? Why on earth would any credible witnesses hitch their wagon to Avenatti? If they're legit witnesses they have to know that associating with him sinks their credibility right out of the gate. Edited October 3, 2018 by keepthefaith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 I was at this guy's hearing for a writ of actual innocence. This story is definitely worth reading. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.richmond.com/news/virginia/innocence-case-stemmed-from-perjury-not-error/article_f7847128-377e-11e2-b2a7-001a4bcf6878.amp.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 22 minutes ago, keepthefaith said: Why on earth would any credible witnesses hitch their wagon to Avenatti? GoFundMe and media rounds at MSNBC, CNN, ABC, etc. Easiest six figures you'll ever make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 38 minutes ago, keepthefaith said: Why on earth would any credible witnesses hitch their wagon to Avenatti? If they're legit witnesses they have to know that associating with him sinks their credibility right out of the gate. FBI seems to have orders not to listen. So who are witnesses going to turn to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy Hix Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Having been a glancing spectator to this event, mostly the testimony from last week, I’d say I found Ford to be more believable. I would imagine a lot of people might have the same opinion as me, and some may be survivors of sexual assaults themselves. Which makes the mockery of Ford by Trump last night very disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Joe Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: Avanati out with a new witness. But this one said something that looks really bad for this whole thing. The new witness connects three of the women together and says they all know each other! Have they been talking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Magox said: Flake sending mixed signals. Now he's saying that he doesn't believe there should be any investigation on Kavanaugh's drinking and that it's hard to judge "excess drinking". That he is content with where the FBI investigation has gone. hmmm He's a wind sock. Actually, wind socks have more usefulness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Joe Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, snafu said: He's a wind sock. Actually, wind socks have more usefulness. Throw a wind sock in the ocean you have a sea anchor. Hmm, I can see the Dems scheming now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 14 minutes ago, Buddy Hix said: Having been a glancing spectator to this event, mostly the testimony from last week, I’d say I found Ford to be more believable. I would imagine a lot of people might have the same opinion as me, and some may be survivors of sexual assaults themselves. Which makes the mockery of Ford by Trump last night very disgusting. You may find her more believable in tone, but have you reviewed the extensive list of inaccuracies in her story; not the least of which everyone she referenced to corroborate her story specifically could not do so? They are very clear and very telling, and anyone who objectively reviews them can clearly tell the difference between she 'sounds' believable and she 'is' to be believed. I'd start with the report written by the prosecutor, and then follow it up with this article from USA Today. Dig beyond what your heard from her. It's all in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 23 minutes ago, Buddy Hix said: Having been a glancing spectator to this event, mostly the testimony from last week, I’d say I found Ford to be more believable. I would imagine a lot of people might have the same opinion as me, and some may be survivors of sexual assaults themselves. Which makes the mockery of Ford by Trump last night very disgusting. I guess I'm falling behind here - what did Trump say about Ford last night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy Hix Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, LABillzFan said: You may find her more believable in tone, but have you reviewed the extensive list of inaccuracies in her story; not the least of which everyone she referenced to corroborate her story specifically could not do so? They are very clear and very telling, and anyone who objectively reviews them can clearly tell the difference between she 'sounds' believable and she 'is' to be believed. I'd start with the report written by the prosecutor, and then follow it up with this article from USA Today. Dig beyond what your heard from her. It's all in this thread. I totally accept that and have read some of the inconsistencies in this thread. My point was that a lot of people would simply form an opinion based on the testimony from last week. And the display by the President last night was unacceptable, especially considering many victims may identify with Ford. 3 minutes ago, bbb said: I guess I'm falling behind here - what did Trump say about Ford last night? He was mocking her like and playing it up for the crowd, have a look. I just don’t see how people support this man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevbeau Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 2 hours ago, Tiberius said: Avanati out with a new witness. But this one said something that looks really bad for this whole thing. The new witness connects three of the women together and says they all know each other! Have they been talking? My guess is it’s David Hogg. That would be the cherry on top of this $&@! Sundae Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, Buddy Hix said: My point was that a lot of people would simply form an opinion based on the testimony from last week. People are welcome to form opinions, but to keep Kavanaugh from the Supreme Court for one person's uncorroborated claims, regardless of how many people form an opinion based exclusively on her testimony, would be an absolute travesty that will hurt many people for many years. Trump's comments notwithstanding, she made a singular claim and we're about to find out if it has been corroborated or proven. If it can't, Kavanaugh should be confirmed. It's just that simple. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 This is the "mocking" these douche bags are crying about. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Rob's House said: This is the "mocking" these douche bags are crying about. So, he said what most people on the right have been saying for weeks?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 (edited) Democratic staffer arrested in doxxing of GOP senators during Kavanaugh hearing Edited October 4, 2018 by Foxx 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, bbb said: So, he said what most people on the right have been saying for weeks?!? Revolting, ain't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Buddy Hix said: Having been a glancing spectator to this event, mostly the testimony from last week, I’d say I found Ford to be more believable. I would imagine a lot of people might have the same opinion as me, and some may be survivors of sexual assaults themselves. Which makes the mockery of Ford by Trump last night very disgusting. I can't believe people think "belief" is any sort of acceptable standard here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 15 minutes ago, Foxx said: Democratic staffer arrested in doxxing of GOP senators during Kavanaugh hearing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 39 minutes ago, Buddy Hix said: I totally accept that and have read some of the inconsistencies in this thread. My point was that a lot of people would simply form an opinion based on the testimony from last week. And the display by the President last night was unacceptable, especially considering many victims may identify with Ford. He was mocking her like and playing it up for the crowd, have a look. I just don’t see how people support this man. With respect, I say to you that the people you described, who have drawn inferences from bits and pieces of testimony carefully culled from the entirety of the testimony, with questions and statements rehearsed and chorepgraphed like a Broadway extravaganza...are part of the problem. In fact, they are a large part of the problem and why this clusterf@!$ was allowed to play out. The basic premise is that anything that Ford did or said, and any conflicts that arise, are all explained away by her status as a victim. Meanwhile, shes retained top political operatives to carry her flag, shes experienced in the field of human psychology and she's operating at a time when victim status is a badge of honor in our society. Trump, for all his bluster is painted as a bully here, defending a guy who until 2 weeks ago was a pretty vanilla dude, all while vultures in the Senate, Congress and media figuratively take turns bashing the nominee in the skull with a brick and get praise from their supporters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 46 minutes ago, Buddy Hix said: I totally accept that and have read some of the inconsistencies in this thread. My point was that a lot of people would simply form an opinion based on the testimony from last week. And the display by the President last night was unacceptable, especially considering many victims may identify with Ford. He was mocking her like and playing it up for the crowd, have a look. I just don’t see how people support this man. Quite the opposite has been the result from what I have been reading online, the groups I belong to, and even the discussions I have had with friends - actual sexual assault victims are pissed as hell at that lunatic. Not only is she completely unbelievable with her "little girl" act (I stand by the 50-year-old Valley Girl on helium analogy) and ever-changing stories and lies, she has set believability for real victims of sexual assault back to the "can't believe her" stage. Truly a travesty. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 20 minutes ago, Rob's House said: This is the "mocking" these douche bags are crying about. Hugh Hewitt and Ari Fleischer SLAP DOWN latest media narrative that Trump ‘mocked’ Dr. Ford at rally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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