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1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

... Then tibs comes in to try to one-up the terrible comedy routine. Clockwork. :lol:

What's really great is you defending the guy who is so counter to your fourth amendment hysterics. It's almost as if it's ok because he is a Republican. 

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1 minute ago, DC Tom said:

 

This is where the Democrats come back and say "She won't testify to independent counsel, only to Senators."

 

As they have already done previously.

i thought i read somewhere that the House judiciary Committee (Grassley) stated that the  ground rules are the committees alone to decide and there is no debating that.

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1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said:

Once again, Baskin thinks he's too clever for the room. Everyone got the pun. It was terrible, unfunny, and added nothing to the conversation but a reminder that prog-fascists who don't realize they're prog-fascists are the most dangerous idiots out there.

Pretty sure Doc didn't get it LOL!!

 

No the fun part is coming here once in a while and seeing how seriously you guys take yourselves!!

 

LOL!!

 

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Just now, Tiberius said:

What's really great is you defending the guy who is so counter to your fourth amendment hysterics. It's almost as if it's ok because he is a Republican. 

 

I'm not defending Kavanaugh. I'm defending the presumption of innocence. 

 

There's a giant difference. 

 

But prog-fascists who are too stupid to realize they're prog-fascists don't get that distinction. As you continue to prove. 

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2 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

Exactly.  And she doesn't want to file a criminal complaint for a criminal matter, either.  She doesn't want an investigation or hearing at all.

 

Ask yourself why that is?

 

(Hint: it's not "because she's lying.")

 

yaaaa....all those kids molested by priests forgot to file a criminal report too....weak sauce DC!

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Just now, baskin said:

Pretty sure Doc didn't get it LOL!!

 

No the fun part is coming here once in a while and seeing how seriously you guys take yourselves!!

 

LOL!!

 

 

Translated for people who aren't prog-fascists: I'm done getting embarrassed because all I can talk about are mushroom penises and white men, so I'm outta here.

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Just now, Foxx said:

i thought i read somewhere that the House judiciary Committee (Grassley) stated that the  ground rules are the committees alone to decide and there is no debating that.

 

And those rules are being used to silence her.  As a victim of rape, she has the right to testify on her own terms.

 

 

I'm not making any of this up.  These statements have already been made in some form.  Like I've said...this is artfully constructed.  If not the ultimate expression of the Cult of Heroic Victimhood, it's certainly a penultimate one.

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1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

I'm not defending Kavanaugh. I'm defending the presumption of innocence. 

 

There's a giant difference. 

 

But prog-fascists who are too stupid to realize they're prog-fascists don't get that distinction. As you continue to prove. 

 

This aint a court of law idiot!

 

LOL!!

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1 minute ago, baskin said:

 

yaaaa....all those kids molested by priests forgot to file a criminal report too....weak sauce DC!

 

Did I say "forgot?"  No, I said "doesn't want to."  She's doing everything in her power to avoid an investigation.

 

Ask yourself why that is...

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2 minutes ago, baskin said:

 

This aint a court of law idiot!

 

LOL!!

The presumption of innocence is a fundamental plank of American/Western/Enlightenment culture. The first step to changing the law is to change the culture. Which is what you're happily advocating because you find it amusing. That's why I keep repeating: prog fascists who don't realize they're prog fascists are the most dangerous (yet useful) idiots out there. 

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3 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

And those rules are being used to silence her.  As a victim of rape, she has the right to testify on her own terms.

 

 

I'm not making any of this up.  These statements have already been made in some form.  Like I've said...this is artfully constructed.  If not the ultimate expression of the Cult of Heroic Victimhood, it's certainly a penultimate one.

oh, I know. just stating what i read somewhere (reading so much on this crap i couldn't tell you where i read it, atm). and going by what my memory is saying, i think they are going to lose that fight. of course, it won't stop the grandstanding after the milk is spilt.

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3 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

I'm not defending Kavanaugh. I'm defending the presumption of innocence. 

 

There's a giant difference. 

 

But prog-fascists who are too stupid to realize they're prog-fascists don't get that distinction. As you continue to prove. 

Oh horse crap, you were cheering on his nomination before. This is the new normal

 

Are you against his nomination on the grounds he is against the right to privacy? After all the hair pulling over that issue you are pretty quiet now on it. 

 

 

Not a word 

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For the record - The reason I am against Kavs ....besides the fact the he seems to be the lamest pick up artist ever...

 

He is simply hand picked because he will vote for ever increasing money in politics, vote against voting rights - vote against several issues that I feel result in crappier government but higher stock prices - his votes are bought and guaranteed - and if you don't think that is true...you guys are definitely naïve idiots....

 

He is hardly an independent conservative thinker....he is simply a plant from and for  the corporate sector who use the "religious right" as leverage - they don't even realize how played they are...his stance against abortion rights is a façade to win him support - guarantee you he doesn't give a rats ass how that issue goes....

 

His presence on SCOTUS simply demeans it...

 

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10 minutes ago, baskin said:

For the record - The reason I am against Kavs ....besides the fact the he seems to be the lamest pick up artist ever...

 

He is simply hand picked because he will vote for ever increasing money in politics, vote against voting rights - vote against several issues that I feel result in crappier government but higher stock prices - his votes are bought and guaranteed - and if you don't think that is true...you guys are definitely naïve idiots....

 

He is hardly an independent conservative thinker....he is simply a plant from and for  the corporate sector who use the "religious right" as leverage - they don't even realize how played they are...his stance against abortion rights is a façade to win him support - guarantee you he doesn't give a rats ass how that issue goes....

 

His presence on SCOTUS simply demeans it...

 

You're still a disgusting individual with a vile, abhorrent mind

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29 minutes ago, baskin said:

For the record - The reason I am against Kavs ....besides the fact the he seems to be the lamest pick up artist ever...

 

He is simply hand picked because he will vote for ever increasing money in politics, vote against voting rights - vote against several issues that I feel result in crappier government but higher stock prices - his votes are bought and guaranteed - and if you don't think that is true...you guys are definitely naïve idiots....

 

He is hardly an independent conservative thinker....he is simply a plant from and for  the corporate sector who use the "religious right" as leverage - they don't even realize how played they are...his stance against abortion rights is a façade to win him support - guarantee you he doesn't give a rats ass how that issue goes....

 

His presence on SCOTUS simply demeans it...

 

 

But you'll oppose him by any means necessary. 

 

That is sociopathic behavior.

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30 minutes ago, baskin said:

For the record - The reason I am against Kavs ....besides the fact the he seems to be the lamest pick up artist ever...

 

He is simply hand picked because he will vote for ever increasing money in politics, vote against voting rights - vote against several issues that I feel result in crappier government but higher stock prices - his votes are bought and guaranteed - and if you don't think that is true...you guys are definitely naïve idiots....

 

He is hardly an independent conservative thinker....he is simply a plant from and for  the corporate sector who use the "religious right" as leverage - they don't even realize how played they are...his stance against abortion rights is a façade to win him support - guarantee you he doesn't give a rats ass how that issue goes....

 

His presence on SCOTUS simply demeans it...

 

 

So keep him out at all cost to normal functioning of presumption of innocence and at all cost to advice and consent, right?  Where does that lead?  Look where it has already gotten us already. It's a **** show.

 

And your reason could be said about every single Justice on the Court, if you believe that special interests buy and sell Judicial power.  I tend to think that special interests follow Justices, not lead them. But you can keep up the cynic routine, the board needs a foil or two.

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, DC Tom said:

 

Yes...Senate Republicans.  Democrats have been stalling as much as they possibly can - "She's anonymous, she won't testify.  She will testify, but not until the FBI investigates.  She will testify, but she can't fly to DC.  Here's her list of demands for testifying.  She'll testify, but no senators can ask her questions, but she'll only take questions from senators."

 

Ask yourself why that is? 

To give Trump more time to say or tweet something stupid.  That's usually the primary goal of the opposition party over the years through all these Senate hearings and investigations filled with fake outrage by the opposing party.  Try to find a way to make the president (or the next likely candidate in Hillary's case) less popular.

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1 minute ago, snafu said:

 

So keep him out at all cost to normal functioning of presumption of innocence and at all cost to advice and consent, right?  Where does that lead?  Look where it has already gotten us already. It's a **** show.

 

And your reason could be said about every single Justice on the Court, if you believe that special interests buy and sell Judicial power.  I tend to think that special interests follow Justices, not lead them. But you can keep up the cynic routine, the board needs a foil or two.

 

 

 

 

It's a function of Manichaeistic political belief.  If you cast politics as an ultimate struggle between good and evil, then nothing is prohibited.

 

That - the political struggle between absolute good and absolute evil - is the basic dynamic of the French Revolution, the Russian Revolution, the Khmer Rouge, the Holocaust... 

 

They're not good examples for baskin to be following.

1 minute ago, Doc Brown said:

To give Trump more time to say or tweet something stupid.  That's usually the primary goal of the opposition party over the years through all these Senate hearings and investigations filled with fake outrage by the opposing party.  Try to find a way to make the president (or the next likely candidate in Hillary's case) less popular.

 

Trump's twitter idiocy is probably at a saturation point - everyone has an opinion, no one's changing it.

 

But close.  It is electoral politics.  Democrats are hoping to control the Senate in November, and keep that seat vacant until 2021 for President Warren's nomination. 

 

Once this is resolved, however it's resolved, you'll never hear another thing about these women.  Because no one cares about the accusations, just the politics.

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17 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

But close.  It is electoral politics.  Democrats are hoping to control the Senate in November, and keep that seat vacant until 2021 for President Warren's nomination. 

 

Once this is resolved, however it's resolved, you'll never hear another thing about these women.  Because no one cares about the accusations, just the politics.

Which in their mind is why Trump saying something stupid will help their chances with election season coming up.  Riling up women voters is the goal here and there's nobody like Trump to get a rise out of people and get them to the polls.  I think Senate Democrats know the seat will probably filled before January, but they have their eye on the next Supreme Court seat if something happens to Ginsburg.  Controlling the Senate ensures they'll have another Merrick Garland type situation come the 2020 election if something happens to one of the four left leaning Supreme Court justices.

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11 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

It's a function of Manichaeistic political belief.  If you cast politics as an ultimate struggle between good and evil, then nothing is prohibited.

 

That - the political struggle between absolute good and absolute evil - is the basic dynamic of the French Revolution, the Russian Revolution, the Khmer Rouge, the Holocaust... 

 

They're not good examples for baskin to be following.

 

Trump's twitter idiocy is probably at a saturation point - everyone has an opinion, no one's changing it.

 

But close.  It is electoral politics.  Democrats are hoping to control the Senate in November, and keep that seat vacant until 2021 for President Warren's nomination. 

 

Once this is resolved, however it's resolved, you'll never hear another thing about these women.  Because no one cares about the accusations, just the politics.

 

One of the remarkable things about our mainly two-party system is that each side thinks it wears the "white hat". It has been a saving grace as one party takes power and then cedes it to the other, but it is sadly turning into the beginning of our demise. The 2016 post-election temper tantrum has just about morphed us into a country where we don't have a peaceful transition of power. The midterms will be the next push toward the cliff edge, and 2020 will  take us to the bottom if Trump wins re-election. 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

To give Trump more time to say or tweet something stupid.  That's usually the primary goal of the opposition party over the years through all these Senate hearings and investigations filled with fake outrage by the opposing party.  Try to find a way to make the president (or the next likely candidate in Hillary's case) less popular.

 

Of course this will also play well in the mid terms if he gets confirmed.  Those mean old white men (Republicans) won't allow a woman to speak.  Because they hate women and want to keep them barefoot and pregnant.  That's just the way old white men roll. Everybody knows  that.

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3 minutes ago, reddogblitz said:

 

Of course this will also play well in the mid terms if he gets confirmed.  Those mean old white men (Republicans) won't allow a woman to speak.  Because they hate women and want to keep them barefoot and pregnant.  That's just the way old white men roll. Everybody knows  that.

Yeah.  That's the political play and Trump is the target as the face of the party.

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1 hour ago, baskin said:

Pretty sure Doc didn't get it LOL!!

 

No the fun part is coming here once in a while and seeing how seriously you guys take yourselves!!

 

LOL!!

 

 

1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said:

Once again, Baskin thinks he's too clever for the room. Everyone got the pun. It was terrible, unfunny, and added nothing to the conversation but a reminder that prog-fascists who don't realize they're prog-fascists are the most dangerous idiots out there.

Pretty sure Baskin didn't get Doc's joke. He called the slut a "mouthpiece". In other words, a piece of mouth, Baskin. Similar to a piece of ass. Do you need me to spell it out further, Baskin?

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1 hour ago, baskin said:

For the record - The reason I am against Kavs ....besides the fact the he seems to be the lamest pick up artist ever...

 

He is simply hand picked because he will vote for ever increasing money in politics, vote against voting rights - vote against several issues that I feel result in crappier government but higher stock prices - his votes are bought and guaranteed - and if you don't think that is true...you guys are definitely naïve idiots....

 

He is hardly an independent conservative thinker....he is simply a plant from and for  the corporate sector who use the "religious right" as leverage - they don't even realize how played they are...his stance against abortion rights is a façade to win him support - guarantee you he doesn't give a rats ass how that issue goes....

 

His presence on SCOTUS simply demeans it...

 

This is what all libs think.  They don't want him in the SC so they don't give a **** if they smear him and destroy his career and life.  The ends justify the means, right?  The problem is that there are unintended consequences of actions like this.  You reap what you sow.

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