Prediction: Nathan Peterman Bills Starting QB Wk. 1 vs. Ravens

[NewEraBills]

18 minutes ago, reddogblitz said:

 

 You didn't answer my question.  Do you think if Nasty Nate starts Baltimore will not blitz the pants off of him?  This will also the first game for a 40% new OLine. If (WHEN) they do, do you think he will be able to handle it any better than he did last year?  If so, what makes you think so?

 

 

They are going to man press and blitz whoever starts.  I think it'll be an ugly day for our offense regardless of who's under center. 

[reddogblitz]

Just now, Wily Dog said:

I believe i answered your question , either you did not watch practices or the game .or you didn't understand what you watched. 

 

Help me out here.  My concern is he can't handle pressure.  I haven't watched any practices, but you can't even touch the QBs in practice. that's why they wear those red jerseys.  I did watch the game and Carolina did'n't put that much pressure on him.  What specifically did you see in a practice or the Carolina game that make one think he can now handle pressure whereas 6 months ago he could not?

[Wily Dog]

1 hour ago, reddogblitz said:

 

Help me out here.  My concern is he can't handle pressure.  I haven't watched any practices, but you can't even touch the QBs in practice. that's why they wear those red jerseys.  I did watch the game and Carolina did'n't put that much pressure on him.  What specifically did you see in a practice or the Carolina game that make one think he can now handle pressure whereas 6 months ago he could not?

 

I was at practice today and Peterman handles the blitz the best of the three QB,s. They blitz but obviously dont touch the QB other than touch him to signify a sack. Peterman does not have a problem as the ball is gone before they get there and is complete to a back or emergency receiver.  Mc Caron does not have the release that Peterman has. You saw this on some passes in the game but obviously did not realize that they were blitzing. 

[Steptide]

6 hours ago, Rocky Landing said:

I hate these “quarterback competitions.”  I look forward to a future where we know exactly who our starting QB is going into OTAs. 

I get your point, but qb competitions make pre season SO much more exciting/entertaining 

[Kirby Jackson]

7 minutes ago, Wily Dog said:

 

I was at practice today and Peterman handles the blitz the best of the three QB,s. They blitz but obviously dont touch the QB other than touch him to signify a sack. Peterman does not have a problem as the ball is gone before they get there and is complete to a back or emergency receiver.  Mc Caron does not have the release that Peterman has. You saw this on some passes in the game but obviously did not realize that they were blitzing. 

Except when they actually have real pressure. Peterman is NOT good against it. He’d probably tell you that. He makes tons of mistakes against the blitz. Allen is the guy that will punish the blitz. He big, strong and mobile. He will step out of the rush and hit some big plays. McCarron is a sitting duck. He lacks the mobility of the other 2.

[Rocky Landing]

5 hours ago, reddogblitz said:

 

Like last year and the year before?  Did you like that?

I should've been more clear.

During every offseason, for many years, including Tyrod's tenure, there has been uncertainty at QB. How high will we draft a QB?; will we trade for someone?; will we pick someone up off waivers?; will Peterman overtake TT in TC (lol!)... there have even been "trade for Luck/Brady/Brees/Rivers/Favre/whatever-franchise-QB-is-getting-long-in-the-tooth" conjecture/rumors/wishful thinking, etc. going on for as long as my short-term deprived memory can remember. 

 

(sigh... deep breath...)

 

When was the last time that sort of attitude existed in NE*?, Pittsburg?, New Orleans?, Atlanta?; Indy?; Green Bay???... sh*t, even Detroit... GOD DAMNED F***ING DETROIT (THE CITY THAT DIDN'T MIND POISONING ITS OWN POPULACE!!!), has been happy with their Franchise Quarterback for almost a decade. 

 

Please! PLEASE!!!  PLEEEEEASE!!! It's OUR TURN!!!

 

(exhale... sigh... breath... everything's fine... namaste... relax...)

 

That's what I meant...

[Rocky Landing]

1 hour ago, Steptide said:

I get your point, but qb competitions make pre season SO much more exciting/entertaining 

Yes.. yes... it's been so..."exciting!", and "INTERESTING!!!" to see the likes of Brian Brohm, and Jeff Tuel, Thad Lewis, Kevin Kolb, and T.J Yates concussing side-line reporters, slipping on rubber matts and beating the living sh*t out of AIR over the last 20 DAMN YEARS!!!

 

(NOTE TO SELF: LESS DRINKING ON WEDNESDAYS)

[reddogblitz]

44 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said:

I should've been more clear.

During every offseason, for many years, including Tyrod's tenure, there has been uncertainty at QB. How high will we draft a QB?; will we trade for someone?; will we pick someone up off waivers?; will Peterman overtake TT in TC (lol!)... there have even been "trade for Luck/Brady/Brees/Rivers/Favre/whatever-franchise-QB-is-getting-long-in-the-tooth" conjecture/rumors/wishful thinking, etc. going on for as long as my short-term deprived memory can remember. 

 

That's what I meant...

 

Good post. Thanks. I agree.  Those guys are very rAre is the problem.  We used to be in that shape. All of those teams you mention have spent years in the QB dessert.

 

hopefully we got it now from one of these guys. I don't care which one.  Somebody. Any body ...

 

1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Except when they actually have real pressure. Peterman is NOT good against it. He’d probably tell you that. He makes tons of mistakes against the blitz. Allen is the guy that will punish the blitz. He big, strong and mobile. He will step out of the rush and hit some big plays. McCarron is a sitting duck. He lacks the mobility of the other 2.

 

I'm gonna disagree on the bolded. I think AJ  feels the pressure and is able to float in the pocket to get to open spots and then pass. Sort of like Drew Brees does (NOT SAYING HE IS AS GOOD AS DREW). Theses more than 1 way to beat pressure.

 

2 hours ago, Wily Dog said:

 

I was at practice today and Peterman handles the blitz the best of the three QB,s. They blitz but obviously dont touch the QB other than touch him to signify a sack. Peterman does not have a problem as the ball is gone before they get there and is complete to a back or emergency receiver.  Mc Caron does not have the release that Peterman has. You saw this on some passes in the game but obviously did not realize that they were blitzing. 

 

Thanks for explanning fellow dog.  I just won't trust it til I see it however. There's a big difference from being touched for a sack and having Suggs barreling right at you.

Edited August 16, 2018 by reddogblitz

[keepthefaith]

3 hours ago, NewEraBills said:

 

They are going to man press and blitz whoever starts.  I think it'll be an ugly day for our offense regardless of who's under center. 

 

Agree they will bring pressure no matter which QB plays.  McD and Dabol also know this and they'll prepare for it. 

[Kirby Jackson]

9 hours ago, reddogblitz said:

 

I'm gonna disagree on the bolded. I think AJ  feels the pressure and is able to float in the pocket to get to open spots and then pass. Sort of like Drew Brees does (NOT SAYING HE IS AS GOOD AS DREW). Theses more than 1 way to beat pressure.

 

He hasn’t done that though. He’s been sacked at like a 10% clip (which is atrocious). I like McCarron but he hasn’t consistently beaten pressure.

Edited August 16, 2018 by Kirby Jackson

[reddogblitz]

1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said:

He hasn’t done that though. He’s been sack at like a 10% clip (which is atrocious). I like McCarron but he hasn’t consistently beaten pressure.

 

Thanks for the info Kirby. Didn't realize he had been sacked that often.  

 

Sometimes it is better to take a sack than throw an ill advised pass.

 

Should be fun to see what hAppens Friday night.

[Alphadawg7]

 

10 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

You could say it is.   I've been quiet these past months, 

 

wassa matter, did I get your gander up?  

 

are you pretending to not be a severe Peterman detractor?

its camp.   let it go.    

 

you can B word for real in 4 weeks 

 

Lmao, I have nothing against NP, I’m fine if he wins the job.  Doubting his ability to win said job isn’t the same thing as just not liking the kid.  I don’t see a guy yet that makes me believe he can be a consistently effective starter.  I would love him to show me otherwise, that would be great.  And personally I could give a damn who wins, Allen is our guy period either now or soon.  Everyone else is playing to be trade bait, so I hope they excel so we get something nice back for them when they hand the keys to Allen.

 

But you seem to have a problem with people being honest about what they have seen from him and are only looking for cheerleaders...which is rich coming from you considering you made it your career to trash TT even when he did something good for the last 3 years in every thread possible even ones that had nothing to do with TT or quarterbacks.  

Edited August 16, 2018 by Alphadawg7

[BurpleBull]

I just wanna say, there's been a lot of kicking and screaming for Josh Allen to get work in, elevated on the depth chart, if he struggles as second man in behind McCarron, don't be mad.

 

No excuses if Peterman excels as third man in.

[GoBills808]

2 minutes ago, BurpleBull said:

I just wanna say, there's been a lot of kicking and screaming for Josh Allen to get work in, elevated on the depth chart, if he struggles as second man in behind McCarron, don't be mad.

 

No excuses if Peterman excels as third man in.

It's not an excuse to say that a rookie will have a harder time playing w/ the 3s than a second year guy. If that wasn't obvious enough already. 

[BurpleBull]

20 hours ago, reddogblitz said:

 

Again you didn't answer my question.  I know it's a new year.  What have you seen in practices in shorts and red jerseys that tells you he is better under pressure?

 

He also went 9 for 9 in the last pre season game last year.  And you saw what happened ...

 

Peterman never went 9 for 9 in preseason last year, he was 9 of 11 for 81 yds. versus Detroit. 

 

He went 11 of 23, 10 of 20, 13 of 25, and 9 of 11 in his four games of rookie preseason action.

 

 

He showed potential as a rookie, he's showing progress now.

 

Going 6 for 6 and 9 for 9 in practice is indicative of a second-year player that has grown from his rookie year, and could easily serve as evidence that there's a much clearer understanding of the offense and of what the defense is trying to do on field. 

 

Peterman going 9 of 11 against what were likely the Lions' second or third team defenders in his rookie year, is a far cry from finishing 9 of 10 versus a first team defense---albeit a "vanilla defense"---headed by the likes of Kawann Short, Dontari Poe, and Mario Addison serving as his opposition.

[reddogblitz]

Just now, BurpleBull said:

 

Peterman never went 9 for 9 in preseason last year, he was 9 of 11 for 81 yds. versus Detroit. 

 

He went 11 of 23, 10 of 20, 13 of 25, and 9 of 11 in his four games of rookie preseason action.

 

 

He showed potential as a rookie, he's showing progress now.

 

Going 6 for 6 and 9 for 9 in practice is indicative of a second-year player that has grown from his rookie year, and could easily serve as evidence that there's a much clearer understanding of the offense and of what the defense is trying to do on field. 

 

Peterman going 9 of 11 against what were likely the Lions' second or third team defenders in his rookie year, is a far cry from finishing 9 of 10 versus a first team defense---albeit a "vanilla defense"---headed by the likes of Kawann Short, Dontari Poe, and Mario Addison serving as his opposition.

 

OK

 

I'm glad you're happy with Nasty Nate's progress and play etc.  Practices in shorts and red jerseys doesn't cut it for me.  When i see him handle pressure well without ducking and chucking I too may be a believer.  But I gotta see it in a real game.  It's impossible to know until he plays a real game against a real defense that game plans for him.  That's where I'm at.

 

I'm not married to any of these guys.  I just want to keep the train (wins) rolling.

 

Have fun tomorrow night!

[Figster]

22 minutes ago, BurpleBull said:

 

Peterman never went 9 for 9 in preseason last year, he was 9 of 11 for 81 yds. versus Detroit. 

 

He went 11 of 23, 10 of 20, 13 of 25, and 9 of 11 in his four games of rookie preseason action.

 

 

He showed potential as a rookie, he's showing progress now.

 

Going 6 for 6 and 9 for 9 in practice is indicative of a second-year player that has grown from his rookie year, and could easily serve as evidence that there's a much clearer understanding of the offense and of what the defense is trying to do on field. 

 

Peterman going 9 of 11 against what were likely the Lions' second or third team defenders in his rookie year, is a far cry from finishing 9 of 10 versus a first team defense---albeit a "vanilla defense"---headed by the likes of Kawann Short, Dontari Poe, and Mario Addison serving as his opposition.

The high completion percentage highlights Peterman accuracy ( exceptional) in my humble opinion.

 

There is an argument to be made that with big, possession WR's that excel in fighting for the football Nate Peterman may also excel IMO.

Edited August 16, 2018 by Figster

[suorangefan4]

19 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Except when they actually have real pressure. Peterman is NOT good against it. He’d probably tell you that. He makes tons of mistakes against the blitz. Allen is the guy that will punish the blitz. He big, strong and mobile. He will step out of the rush and hit some big plays. McCarron is a sitting duck. He lacks the mobility of the other 2.

 

It wasn't just pressure he had to deal with against the Chargers . The receivers weren't getting any seperation at all the entire time he played. It looked like the whole offense completely sabotaged him.

 

I've never seen a team let a player down more than they did to him that game. Tom Brady would've had a horrendous game if he had to play under the same circumstances.

 

Every other game he's played in Peterman has shown some really good things.

Edited August 16, 2018 by suorangefan4

[Rocky Landing]

52 minutes ago, suorangefan4 said:

 

It wasn't just pressure he had to deal with against the Chargers . The receivers weren't getting any seperation at all the entire time he played. It looked like the whole offense completely sabotaged him.

 

I've never seen a team let a player down more than they did to him that game. Tom Brady would've had a horrendous game if he had to play under the same circumstances.

 

Every other game he's played in Peterman has shown some really good things.

I don't agree with this. However, if this isn't an indictment of Nate Peterman, I don't know what is!

[prissythecat]

1 hour ago, suorangefan4 said:

 

It wasn't just pressure he had to deal with against the Chargers . The receivers weren't getting any seperation at all the entire time he played. It looked like the whole offense completely sabotaged him.

 

I've never seen a team let a player down more than they did to him that game. Tom Brady would've had a horrendous game if he had to play under the same circumstances.

 

Every other game he's played in Peterman has shown some really good things.

 

 

What good things did Peterman show against Jags?  A fumble and another Int?

[Augie]

5 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said:

I don't agree with this. However, if this isn't an indictment of Nate Peterman, I don't know what is!

 

Sabotage indicates intent, so I’m not sure if I can go quite that far, but the entire offense was a dumpster fire. (Brady might have retired after that, in my dreams.) If it was even semi-intentional on the part of more or more players, or even a subconscious letdown, I don’t see it as a reflection on Peterman as much as anger/dissatisfaction  regarding the sitting of Tyrod. Thye were not AGAINST Nate as much as they were FOR Tyrod. There’s a difference. 

[Fan in Chicago]

1 minute ago, prissythecat said:

 

 

What good things did Peterman show against Jags?  A fumble and another Int?

I don't have a horse in this race but don't forget his performance in the brutal snow game against the Colts. 

 

[26CornerBlitz]

1 minute ago, Fan in Chicago said:

I don't have a horse in this race but don't forget his performance in the brutal snow game against the Colts. 

 

5-10 for 57 yards against the rather bad Colts' secondary.  Meh!

[Rocky Landing]

6 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

Sabotage indicates intent, so I’m not sure if I can go quite that far, but the entire offense was a dumpster fire. (Brady might have retired after that, in my dreams.) If it was even semi-intentional on the part of more or more players, or even a subconscious letdown, I don’t see it as a reflection on Peterman as much as anger/dissatisfaction  regarding the sitting of Tyrod. Thye were not AGAINST Nate as much as they were FOR Tyrod. There’s a difference. 

This seems like a stretch in defense of Nate. When Tyrod came out in the second half, the Bills looked like a different team. My take, at the time (other than "why did I spend so much money on these tickets..."), was that Peterman could not lead the team, and was indecisive both in the huddle, and at the line. Confusion reigned in the first half. I have always said of that game that the five interceptions were only half the story of Peterman's performance.

[Augie]

Just now, Rocky Landing said:

This seems like a stretch in defense of Nate. When Tyrod came out in the second half, the Bills looked like a different team. My take, at the time (other than "why did I spend so much money on these tickets..."), was that Peterman could not lead the team, and was indecisive both in the huddle, and at the line. Confusion reigned in the first half. I have always said of that game that the five interceptions were only half the story of Peterman's performance.

 

Sorry if I wasn’t clear, but I’m not defending him. If some/any of our players were upset to have Peterman in while Tyrod sat, consciously or otherwise, it would be expected to improve if Tyrod stepped in. Rally, men! (And it could also be Tyrod was just that much better.)  I’m not even saying that’s the case, but something very funky went on in that first half, and I find it very hard to explain. It seemed like more than just poor QB play.  I’ve never seen anything that ugly! Or strange! (But there is a funny version of something similar in a Grisham boook, “Playing For Pizza”.) 

 

I have only questions about what the heck happened there, no answers.  That was just.....weird....

[Figster]

9 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said:

This seems like a stretch in defense of Nate. When Tyrod came out in the second half, the Bills looked like a different team. My take, at the time (other than "why did I spend so much money on these tickets..."), was that Peterman could not lead the team, and was indecisive both in the huddle, and at the line. Confusion reigned in the first half. I have always said of that game that the five interceptions were only half the story of Peterman's performance.

I'm not saying it always amounted to points scored, but Tyrod Taylor was a great leader for the Buffalo Bills/ New Era football team. ( IMO )

Edited August 16, 2018 by Figster

[reddogblitz]

23 minutes ago, prissythecat said:

 

 

What good things did Peterman show against Jags?  A fumble and another Int?

 

was going to post this too but you beat me to it 

[Kirby Jackson]

1 hour ago, suorangefan4 said:

 

It wasn't just pressure he had to deal with against the Chargers . The receivers weren't getting any seperation at all the entire time he played. It looked like the whole offense completely sabotaged him.

 

I've never seen a team let a player down more than they did to him that game. Tom Brady would've had a horrendous game if he had to play under the same circumstances.

 

Every other game he's played in Peterman has shown some really good things.

I always love this explanation. It was everyone letting him down. No need for excuses. It wasn’t “everyone was bad so that’s why he struggled. They sabotaged him.” This is the root of my issues with Peterman. People want to baby him and excuse him for playing terribly. It’s okay to say he was awful but has been okay otherwise. Please, please, please don’t try to justify the Chargers performance. 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

15 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

But you seem to have a problem with people being honest about what they have seen from him and are only looking for cheerleaders...which is rich coming from you considering you made it your career to trash TT even when he did something good for the last 3 years in every thread possible even ones that had nothing to do with TT or quarterbacks.  

I get it now, we can be honest except when it comes to TT.   

 

FTR I didn’t trash TT relentlessly.   It is what you assume and why you get “grumpy”

 

4 games with a rating of under 45 warrants criticism.   

 

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

57 minutes ago, Figster said:

I'm not saying it always amounted to points scored, but Tyrod Taylor was a great leader for the Buffalo Bills/ New Era football team. ( IMO )

 

 

...don't think you can question his work ethic , commitment or team leadership 'Fig.....his stumbling block to date (maybe change of scenery and Hugh can fix it) was inability to read/react/process entire field in a generous 5 seconds or less.....he's in the majority at this level citing Steve Young (AGAIN), "more collegians fail versus succeed at the NFL level due to the speed and complexity of the game".....hence, that weakness rendered the passing game, especially DOWNFIELD, as a non-threat for opposing defenses....no harm...no foul IMO.....kid did try like hell...now on to Hugh.....

[starrymessenger]

Peterman had a good, even maybe very good, showing against the Panthers. But it wasn't perfect. He's generally accurate and can throw with anticipation, but he wasn't pinpoint accurate. His first throw, the slant to Cadet, was behind the receiver. It resulted in a PI call and a first down but a pass like that can easily be picked off by a good slot corner. The pick on the throw to Ivory was also slightly behind the receiver. Sure Ivory should still have made the play but it's worth mentioning that both the Cadet and Ivory throws were on slants left to right, the only ones of that kind attempted, and both were slightly off target (the Cadet throw more than the one to Ivory). Peterman's best throw was the TD pass to Streater. It was so perfectly placed that without the push off the receiver would have been in great position to beat the corner. Thing to note about that pass is that it was 40 yards in the air and Peterman did not throw his arm out making it. In other words you could probably add another 10 yards or so if you were looking to fix Peterman's long ball range. A well placed 50 yard pass is pretty good, and certainly good enuf to say that Peterman can probably throw a good deep ball. Where I think we may like to see more zip on his throws is in the intermediate range, underneath patterns, outs and curls. He has to keep DBs from comfortably sitting on his throws with the certain knowledge that the play will remain in front of them with plenty of time to pick or immediately wrap up the receiver. If he can do those things even moderately well, and keep his composure in the pocket, he probably has a future in this league. If he continues to show well in preseason I would not be surprised if the Bills looked to move AJM. It would certainly be a refreshing change to have a talented starter (Allen) backup up by a capable backup both on rookie deals.

[BurpleBull]

3 hours ago, GoBills808 said:

It's not an excuse to say that a rookie will have a harder time playing w/ the 3s than a second year guy. If that wasn't obvious enough already. 

 

I've read very little from those who feel Allen should be given the starting job, where they're acknowledging a marked difference between Peterman as a second-year player, versus Josh Allen as a rookie, for most of the discussion.

 

So no, it's not that obvious.

 

Guys wanted Allen to be elevated up the depth chart so that he wouldn't be bogged down with the 'inferior' talent that surrounded him, now that wish may be granted.

 

And by 'no excuses', I largely mean as to why Peterman had the better game, if the end results should end up favoring him.

 

 

 

 

 

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

Just now, BurpleBull said:

 

I've read very little from those who feel Allen should be given the starting job, where they're acknowledging a marked difference between Peterman as a second-year player, versus Josh Allen as a rookie, for most of the discussion.

 

So no, it's not that obvious.

 

Guys wanted Allen to be elevated up the depth chart so that he wouldn't be bogged down with the 'inferior' talent that surrounded him, now that wish may be granted.

 

And by 'no excuses', I largely mean as to why Peterman had the better game, if the end results should end up favoring him.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

...interesting how McD compared the starts of Cam versus McNabb (he experienced both)......one was "thrown to the wolves" and the other was "slow grooming until ready".......I'd say that is some pretty impressive evaluate stuff for a 2nd year HC trying to bring along what is hoped to be (FINALLY) Bflo's "franchise QB"....too conservative, paralysis by analysis, weak kneed decisiveness because he's a 2nd year guy?....you decide....in the mean time, I like his deliberate approach.........

[Wily Dog]

2 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

5-10 for 57 yards against the rather bad Colts' secondary.  Meh!

 

That's almost hilarious if you weren't being serious 

 

 

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[Wily Dog]

2 hours ago, Rocky Landing said:

This seems like a stretch in defense of Nate. When Tyrod came out in the second half, the Bills looked like a different team. My take, at the time (other than "why did I spend so much money on these tickets..."), was that Peterman could not lead the team, and was indecisive both in the huddle, and at the line. Confusion reigned in the first half. I have always said of that game that the five interceptions were only half the story of Peterman's performance.

 

If you didn't know it or are just trying to cover it up , the line ledaders decided that that they didn't like McD 's decision  to start Peterman. Peterman was just a foil. in the whole drama. Of course they played better when Tyrod came in. McD apologized to the team and all was well. I would think that Mcd knows who he can trust and if I were them I would buy my Jelly  Beans  one at a time. But that is just me

Edited August 16, 2018 by Wily Dog
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[Rocky Landing]

3 minutes ago, Wily Dog said:

 

If you didn't know it or are just trying to cover it up , the line led  decided that that they didn't like McD 's decision  to start Peterman. Peterman was just a foil. in the whole drama. Of course they played better when Tyrod came in. McD apologized to the team and all was well. I would think that Mcd knows who he can trust and if I were them I would buy my Jelly  Beans  one at a time. But that is just me

It's a little hard to tell exactly what you're talking about through the broken diction, and punctuation (I assume you're typing this on your phone, while driving?), but if you're trying to sell me the conspiracy theory that the offense purposely threw the first half because they didn't like McD's decision to sit TT, I'm not buying.

[BurpleBull]

1 hour ago, starrymessenger said:

Peterman had a good, even maybe very good, showing against the Panthers. But it wasn't perfect. He's generally accurate and can throw with anticipation, but he wasn't pinpoint accurate. His first throw, the slant to Cadet, was behind the receiver. It resulted in a PI call and a first down but a pass like that can easily be picked off by a good slot corner. The pick on the throw to Ivory was also slightly behind the receiver. Sure Ivory should still have made the play but it's worth mentioning that both the Cadet and Ivory throws were on slants left to right, the only ones of that kind attempted, and both were slightly off target (the Cadet throw more than the one to Ivory). Peterman's best throw was the TD pass to Streater. It was so perfectly placed that without the push off the receiver would have been in great position to beat the corner. Thing to note about that pass is that it was 40 yards in the air and Peterman did not throw his arm out making it. In other words you could probably add another 10 yards or so if you were looking to fix Peterman's long ball range. A well placed 50 yard pass is pretty good, and certainly good enuf to say that Peterman can probably throw a good deep ball. Where I think we may like to see more zip on his throws is in the intermediate range, underneath patterns, outs and curls. He has to keep DBs from comfortably sitting on his throws with the certain knowledge that the play will remain in front of them with plenty of time to pick or immediately wrap up the receiver. If he can do those things even moderately well, and keep his composure in the pocket, he probably has a future in this league. If he continues to show well in preseason I would not be surprised if the Bills looked to move AJM. It would certainly be a refreshing change to have a talented starter (Allen) backup up by a capable backup both on rookie deals.

 

Agreed.

 

It could have easily picked by the actual defender guarding the receiver and it was his worst pass, because it came on the very first play.

 

As I see it, Peterman's biggest issue with some of the more difficult completions that rely on timing, is that he can get casual at times throwing the football.

 

Peterman is an honest guy who is constantly looking to get better, so I would imagine this pass, along with the pick was scrutinized by both Daboll and Peterman together.

 

I felt encouraged reading that the practice following that game, was heavy on completing the short pass; makes me think Daboll and the coaches wanted to work specifically on cleaning up the throwing mechanics on shorter routes, so picks like the one to Ivory at the tail end of a quarter, isn't a recurring thing.

 

Peterman acknowledged during his mid-game interview that he could've done things better---there were only two errors---so I'm hopeful that what he took away from that game, is that he must keep his mind in the game at all times, his foot on the gas, and not become complacent when throwing the ball.

 

On to game two.

[Lfod]

22 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said:

It's a little hard to tell exactly what you're talking about through the broken diction, and punctuation (I assume you're typing this on your phone, while driving?), but if you're trying to sell me the conspiracy theory that the offense purposely threw the first half because they didn't like McD's decision to sit TT, I'm not buying.

The offense was going to suck regardless so it's not an important point. The offence as a total product held Tyrod and Peterman back. 3 points in the playoffs. That is so lackluster. So boring. No conspiracy here just flat out Savage levels of not scoring points. 

 

Please tell me more about the chargers game. Let's only care about that game. 

Edited August 16, 2018 by Lfod

[Wily Dog]

24 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said:

It's a little hard to tell exactly what you're talking about through the broken diction, and punctuation (I assume you're typing this on your phone, while driving?), but if you're trying to sell me the conspiracy theory that the offense purposely threw the first half because they didn't like McD's decision to sit TT, I'm not buying.

 

It was reported by the press but i suspect your not one who believes them or pays attention to them if you disagree , or you even reads   them.

Edited August 16, 2018 by Wily Dog
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[Rocky Landing]

3 minutes ago, Wily Dog said:

 

It was reported icy the press but i suspect your not one who believes them or pays attention to them if you disagree , or you even reads   them.

Written without a shred of irony...