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McCoy later talked about Daboll’s offensive system, comparing it to that of New England while also stating that it took “a lot of studying” to learn the coordinator’s playbook.

“He’s had success with the Patriots, he’s had a lot of success with Alabama. We’re going to run the ball, for sure,” McCoy said. “You’ll see a lot of similarities from us and the Patriots, because that’s where he comes from. . . He’s always looking for matchups. If he can get a running back on a linebacker, we’re going to take it. If we can get [Charles] Clay on a particular linebacker, we’re going to take it. Even with Ben, he’s a big target, [Kelvin] Benjamin, we want to get him the ball.

“He’s always trying to confuse the defense and find the mismatch. Most offenses that are successful, that’s what they do. That’s what they do. We’re going to run the ball in different formations, keep guys off-balance, be on the attack, that’s more just high tempo offense. We’re going to be similar. We’ll see. I’m excited to be here, I’ll tell you that. At first, the offense was like ‘oh,’ it was crazy, it was a lot of plays. A lot of studying for a great cause and a great outcome.”

McCoy may not be done studying the new offense, as according to Daboll, his offense will “evolve” based off of his players’ strengths. While speaking to the media in May, Daboll revealed that the team’s offense will “constantly change based on what we think our players do best.”

McCoy is incredibly excited to play under Daboll. McCoy was one of the few Buffalo players who succeeded in Dennison’s offensive system, rushing for 1,138 yards and six touchdowns in 2017. Perhaps he’ll be able to improve these numbers while playing in a system that he’s truly confident in.

 

Hopefully this is more than just happy talk and Shady saying what is the "politically correct" thing to say.  I don't worry about Shady's production since he'll be the focus in most systems; I'm more concerned about the QB and how the offense will be played based on his skillset.  We should start to know more in two months, though at the very least, it does not appear that a system will be force fed on the players by an OC thinking his system means more than the players executing it.

 

 

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33 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said:

 

https://billswire.usatoday.com/2018/06/12/buffalo-bills-lesean-mccoy-brian-dabol-new-england-patriots/

 

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McCoy later talked about Daboll’s offensive system, comparing it to that of New England while also stating that it took “a lot of studying” to learn the coordinator’s playbook.

“He’s had success with the Patriots, he’s had a lot of success with Alabama. We’re going to run the ball, for sure,” McCoy said. “You’ll see a lot of similarities from us and the Patriots, because that’s where he comes from. . . He’s always looking for matchups. If he can get a running back on a linebacker, we’re going to take it. If we can get [Charles] Clay on a particular linebacker, we’re going to take it. Even with Ben, he’s a big target, [Kelvin] Benjamin, we want to get him the ball.

“He’s always trying to confuse the defense and find the mismatch. Most offenses that are successful, that’s what they do. That’s what they do. We’re going to run the ball in different formations, keep guys off-balance, be on the attack, that’s more just high tempo offense. We’re going to be similar. We’ll see. I’m excited to be here, I’ll tell you that. At first, the offense was like ‘oh,’ it was crazy, it was a lot of plays. A lot of studying for a great cause and a great outcome.”

McCoy may not be done studying the new offense, as according to Daboll, his offense will “evolve” based off of his players’ strengths. While speaking to the media in May, Daboll revealed that the team’s offense will “constantly change based on what we think our players do best.”

McCoy is incredibly excited to play under Daboll. McCoy was one of the few Buffalo players who succeeded in Dennison’s offensive system, rushing for 1,138 yards and six touchdowns in 2017. Perhaps he’ll be able to improve these numbers while playing in a system that he’s truly confident in.

 

Hopefully this is more than just happy talk and Shady saying what is the "politically correct" thing to say.  I don't worry about Shady's production since he'll be the focus in most systems; I'm more concerned about the QB and how the offense will be played based on his skillset.  We should start to know more in two months, though at the very least, it does not appear that a system will be force fed on the players by an OC thinking his system means more than the players executing it.

 

 

 

In my observations the big news about the OTA's and the offense is Daboll and his system.

So much effort is being put in by people talking about individuals players I think many are missing the big picture.

 

It's pretty apparent to me that McDermott is giving the O over to Daboll and he is in charge.

 

Some early reports could be taken this way.  Daboll's O (so far in OTA's) is showing all 3 QB's can execute the scheme.

The WR's are being rotated through and it is looking like a large number of them are also executing well.

 

The players are being asked to "understand" everyone's responsibility and many have already said it helps them understand their positions better.

 

Who fills in some of the open positions (including QB) will come LATER.  So far I am quite impressed with what the O is doing.

I know it's early.  I am looking forward to the second phase (Training Camp) and the third phase (Preseason).

Keep it up guys!

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36 minutes ago, eball said:

The last thing Shady does is say what he thinks people want him to say.  The fact he is impressed with Allen and Daboll really bodes well for this season (and beyond).

 

McCoy seemed to like Rico this time of year too

 

http://buffalobills.com/news/article-1/4---Can-McCoy-reach-2000-total-yards/abc5c1fd-30b1-446c-aa59-9660d88151e9

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2 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

 

McCoy seemed to like Rico this time of year too

 

http://buffalobills.com/news/article-1/4---Can-McCoy-reach-2000-total-yards/abc5c1fd-30b1-446c-aa59-9660d88151e9

 

LOL.  That's a Chris Brown puff piece.  Shady talks more about what makes a RB successful in general than lauding Dennison's scheme.

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“He’s always trying to confuse the defense and find the mismatch. Most offenses that are successful, that’s what they do. That’s what they do. We’re going to run the ball in different formations, keep guys off-balance, be on the attack, that’s more just high tempo offense. We’re going to be similar. We’ll see. I’m excited to be here, I’ll tell you that. At first, the offense was like ‘oh,’ it was crazy, it was a lot of plays. A lot of studying for a great cause and a great outcome.”

McCoy may not be done studying the new offense, as according to Daboll, his offense will “evolve” based off of his players’ strengths. While speaking to the media in May, Daboll revealed that the team’s offense will “constantly change based on what we think our players do best.”

McCoy is incredibly excited to play under Daboll. McCoy was one of the few Buffalo players who succeeded in Dennison’s offensive system, rushing for 1,138 yards and six touchdowns in 2017. Perhaps he’ll be able to improve these numbers while playing in a system that he’s truly confident in.

 

 

 

 

 

Rex took the same approach....it didn’t end well for him....

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I doubt Shady liked Rico around week 6 when he still didn't have a TD.  I would guess that this could be attributed to the zone blocking scheme that the OLine was having problems grasping, initially.  The OLine is still a big question, such as who starts in every position other than LT (should be Dawkins) and will the blocking schemes play to the strengths of the linemen?  The latter I would assume so, just based on the article even though that wasn't mentioned.

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Rex took the same approach....it didn’t end well for him....

 

The only problem was Rex confused his own defense, but maybe that's what you meant :)

 

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1 minute ago, Soda Popinski said:

I imagine Daboll sat down with him very early and said "you are going to be the focal point of the offense, 100%.   Get ready for 400 touches this year and get ready to run screens that Dennison seemed alergic to."

 

Brian Daboll:  "we're going to run Shady until he throws up."

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Brian Daboll:  "we're going to run Shady until he throws up."

 

I hope he's in good shape.   And I hope Daboll can get him the ball in space.   If he's able to do that, Shady will have another great year.   Just run away from that oline.   

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7 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said:

I doubt Shady liked Rico around week 6 when he still didn't have a TD.  I would guess that this could be attributed to the zone blocking scheme that the OLine was having problems grasping, initially.  The OLine is still a big question, such as who starts in every position other than LT (should be Dawkins) and will the blocking schemes play to the strengths of the linemen?  The latter I would assume so, just based on the article even though that wasn't mentioned.

 

The only problem was Rex confused his own defense, but maybe that's what you meant :)

 

 

Yeah, that’s where he went wrong. 

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2 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

I mean, what is he going to say?  Maybe a younger McCoy might but he’s getting paid really well by the  Bills. Plus, it’s a run heavy offense.  The true test is when it’s a month into the season and he’s facing 8/9 guys in the box.

He's seen stacked boxes at times since he's been in Buffalo.  He will produce regardless because he is an elite talent.  He will also produce because in spite of questions at QB, they will be able to throw at times, just like Tyrod could at times.

 

I doubt we hear him complain even if he has reason to.  Don't recall him throwing Dennison or Roman under the bus; or a teammate either for that matter.

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I mean, what is he going to say?  Maybe a younger McCoy might but he’s getting paid really well by the  Bills. Plus, it’s a run heavy offense.  The true test is when it’s a month into the season and he’s facing 8/9 guys in the box.

 

 

...exactly why McDaboll's menu must include developing a viable,  threatening passing game, especially downfield (previously uncharted territory)......

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1 minute ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said:

McCoy is going to have 70 receptions in this offense and make another pro bowl if he can stay healthy. 

 

 

....ideal situation would be to have McCoy emulate Thurmal's versatility and see if we have a Kenneth Davis or two on the roster as a compliment.....

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It's obviously hard to know for sure, but this piece makes it sound like Shady is buying in to this new offense, which is obviously important from your best player (on offense). 

 

When he was first hired, I was pumped up for our run game because I thought his blocking scheme fit our o line very well. Now... who knows with this patchwork o line. But I'm still excited about Daboll. 

 

Let's be real here, though - Daboll isn't exactly working with a great offense here. I mean really, we have no clue what he has on offense with such HUGE question marks at QB and 4/5ths of the offensive line. Much of his success in year 1 will likely come down to those 2 things. 

 

1 hour ago, Augie said:

 

Rex took the same approach....it didn’t end well for him....

 

Same with Greg Roman. He had a massive playbook. Wanted to try and confuse the defense. I remember Shady saying that he'd install sometimes 100+ plays on a given week. Anthony Lynn came in and simplified it, with good results. 

 

Hopefully the results with Daboll are much better. 

 

He seems like a really smart guy, though, and I like a lot of what he says/believes.

I hope he can stick around a while. I'd love to see some continuity on that side of the ball. It'd be awesome to actually have the same offenseive and defensive staff for a few years in a row (or longer...) for a change. 

 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said:

It's obviously hard to know for sure, but this piece makes it sound like Shady is buying in to this new offense, which is obviously important from your best player (on offense). 

 

When he was first hired, I was pumped up for our run game because I thought his blocking scheme fit our o line very well. Now... who knows with this patchwork o line. But I'm still excited about Daboll. 

 

Let's be real here, though - Daboll isn't exactly working with a great offense here. I mean really, we have no clue what he has on offense with such HUGE question marks at QB and 4/5ths of the offensive line. Much of his success in year 1 will likely come down to those 2 things. 

 

 

Same with Greg Roman. He had a massive playbook. Wanted to try and confuse the defense. I remember Shady saying that he'd install sometimes 100+ plays on a given week. Anthony Lynn came in and simplified it, with good results. 

 

Hopefully the results with Daboll are much better. 

 

He seems like a really smart guy, though, and I like a lot of what he says/believes.

I hope he can stick around a while. I'd love to see some continuity on that side of the ball. It'd be awesome to actually have the same offenseive and defensive staff for a few years in a row (or longer...) for a change. 

 

 

 

 

...anybody remember when Al Saunders was KC's OC?.....he was lured away by Boy Danny Snyder and the Deadskins as their new OC....his playbook was purported to be 700 PAGES....700?.......i'D BET a dozen guys ended up on IR with hernias from carrying the damn thing to meetings.....um overkill?.......Billy Joe Hobert would STILL be reading..oh wait.....

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4 hours ago, Happy Gilmore said:

it does not appear that a system will be force fed on the players by an OC thinking his system means more than the players executing it.

 

 

Rex Ryan looks on disapprovingly (yeah I know offense/defense).

4 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

  The true test is when it’s a month into the season and he’s facing 8/9 guys in the box.

Like he has for his entire career?

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3 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said:

Rex Ryan looks on disapprovingly (yeah I know offense/defense).

 

If Rex Ryan looks on disapprovingly, then you know you're doing the right thing.

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3 hours ago, Fadingpain said:

It doesn't really matter what Shady "buys into" or doesn't buy into.

 

Just run when they put the ball in your hands, Shady.

 

 

Silly statement. Really, really silly.

6 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said:

 

If Rex Ryan looks on disapprovingly, then you know you're doing the right thing.

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56 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said:

Rex Ryan looks on disapprovingly (yeah I know offense/defense).

Like he has for his entire career?

McCoy averaged 4 ypc last year.  That’s pretty good for most rbs but that is a bad year for Shady. In his best years, he had guys like Jackson, Maclin, and Watkins as deep threats.

 

i know everyone loves to hate on Sammy now that he is not a Bill but he is a legit threat defenses have to pay attention to.  It’s not a coincidence that Gurley went from giant bust in his 2nd year to the best rb in the nfl last year.  With no outside speed, you are severely going to hurt your run game.

 

McCoy is borderline great but I can see this year being a struggle for him and it has nothing to do with his ability.

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On 6/15/2018 at 12:08 PM, CircleTheWagons99 said:

Rex only managed to  confuse himself

 

 

...normal state for the proverbial azzclown......the snake oil salesman even "buffaloed Buffalo" into signing him.....special thanks to Mr. Russ Brandon....thank God they're BOTH gone.....

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On 6/13/2018 at 3:20 PM, Augie said:

 

Rex took the same approach....it didn’t end well for him....

 

Wrex confused himself ;) 

On 6/15/2018 at 12:08 PM, CircleTheWagons99 said:

Rex only managed to  confuse himself

 

Only read the first page before I posted.

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