OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, transient said: Second Bills former starting guard this week to be fully committed. Hope it doesn’t start a trend. ...knew THIS was coming and wondered what the hell took you so long????................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 21 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: so then shed some light how the kid went from the penthouse to outhouse overnight based on PFF's assessment if it shouldn't be THAT hard??. PFF apparently likes turnstiles. Watch his tapes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, Formerly Allan in MD said: PFF apparently likes turnstiles. Watch his tapes. ...just asking the question about what I read.....fake news??..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 6 hours ago, Ifartalot said: "John Miller fully committed to regain starting role" .....and no doubt he's giving 110% effort, I'm sure too. Nothing against Miller, but all this is lip service. That sports writers still run with it as a fresh scoop is so old and monotonous. I know. Why don’t they write about the guys who are not fully, but only partially committed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 7 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: I know. Why don’t they write about the guys who are not fully, but only partially committed? I prefer players who are 3/17ths committed, thank you very much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 6 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: I think the only starter right now is Dawkins. Everyone else is in competition. I'm pulling for Teller to beat out Ducasse. I really, really like Teller. Teller should have been drafted by Oak. They could have the Penn and Teller show. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 7 hours ago, HappyDays said: I had almost forgotten he existed. I swear he had a really good rookie year before disappearing. Ducasse is playing LG. Based on the first week of OTAs the starting line is Dawkins, Ducasse, Bodine, Miller, Mills. Ideally I'd like Teller or Groy to win the LG spot before the season is over. To me the ideal is having Teller at LG and Miller at RG (assuming we're going to a man blocking scheme). Groy at C be nice too yet with Bodine under contract for more years am a little more willing to have him start. 8 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said: Teller should have been drafted by Oak. They could have the Penn and Teller show. HA! Except Penn's on his way out with the drafting of Miller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 5 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: To me the ideal is having Teller at LG and Miller at RG (assuming we're going to a man blocking scheme). Groy at C be nice too yet with Bodine under contract for more years am a little more willing to have him start. HA! Except Penn's on his way out with the drafting of Miller. Maybe we can sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 I think people asking about Groy not starting are missing the point. I've heard McD talk about how valuable he is because he can play multiple positions. But that doesn't mean he shouldn't start. You're going to have a center and a backup center. If Groy starts, then Bodine can be the backup. If a guard goes down, Groy can move over and Bodine comes in. That's pretty simple, and I'm sure McDermott understands it. No, it makes much sense to conclude that Groy isn't starting because the coaches think the guys they have starting are better. Plain and simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, The Jokeman said: To me the ideal is having Teller at LG and Miller at RG (assuming we're going to a man blocking scheme). Groy at C be nice too yet with Bodine under contract for more years am a little more willing to have him start. HA! Except Penn's on his way out with the drafting of Miller. If Groy and Bodine grade evenly under the New Coaches . Who do you start at center ? Flexibility and the ability to play teams comes into the equation i might guess Edited May 25, 2018 by 3rdand12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 (edited) 10 hours ago, HappyDays said: I had almost forgotten he existed. I swear he had a really good rookie year before disappearing. Ducasse is playing LG. Based on the first week of OTAs the starting line is Dawkins, Ducasse, Bodine, Miller, Mills. Ideally I'd like Teller or Groy to win the LG spot before the season is over. That OL isn't going to scare anybody. At least not any opponents. Four borderline starters out of five. Edited May 26, 2018 by vincec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 9 hours ago, Chuck Wagon said: "I'm playing for a contract, so now I'm going to try" Jesus Chuck, cynical much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 9 hours ago, Chuck Wagon said: "I'm playing for a contract, so now I'm going to try" Exactly. If it were only that easy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artmalibu Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Yes 4 guys in a contract year. Good for competition this year, maybe bad for next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimp on da' net Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 (edited) 11 hours ago, HappyDays said: I had almost forgotten he existed. I swear he had a really good rookie year before disappearing. Ducasse is playing LG. Based on the first week of OTAs the starting line is Dawkins, Ducasse, Bodine, Miller, Mills. Ideally I'd like Teller or Groy to win the LG spot before the season is over. Why? I just want the best 5 OL for the new system starting & playing? Names doesn't matter... Edited May 26, 2018 by pimp on da' net 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artmalibu Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, pimp on da' net said: Why? I just want the best 5 OL for the new system starting & playing? Names doesn't matter... Agree 100% but it would be nice if they all played good and Teller won the spot since we own him cheep for a few years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Well, I’m glad he’s not partially committed..... ”Yeah, maybe if the spirit hits me.....” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 11 hours ago, ScottLaw said: Impossible. Castillo and Vlad are inseparable. And that's the weak link in our line especially if someone better than Mills mans the rt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 1 hour ago, 3rdand12 said: If Groy and Bodine grade evenly under the New Coaches . Who do you start at center ? Flexibility and the ability to play teams comes into the equation i might guess It would seem to me that if Groy does not start on the OL in his contract year he probably will want to move on. He did sign with LA in 2017 and the Bill's matched. Doesn't answer your question, just throwing that out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 9 hours ago, 3rdand12 said: If Groy and Bodine grade evenly under the New Coaches . Who do you start at center ? Flexibility and the ability to play teams comes into the equation i might guess Bodine since we know Groy can also man the guard spot as needed. Toss in Bodine has a history with AJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 15 hours ago, Buddy Hix said: Good to hear. I’m expecting a down year based on the schedule and roster turnover but guys like Miller and Shaq could change that. I expected the same thing for the same reasons last year after losing Gilmore, Watkins, Woods, Darby, Graham, Mario W., Goodwin, and Z. Brown. Plus, we had the 4th toughest schedule on paper to start the year. I'm still trying to figure out how the hell we made the playoffs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 13 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: I expected the same thing for the same reasons last year after losing Gilmore, Watkins, Woods, Darby, Graham, Mario W., Goodwin, and Z. Brown. Plus, we had the 4th toughest schedule on paper to start the year. I'm still trying to figure out how the hell we made the playoffs. "The process" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 2 hours ago, Doc Brown said: I expected the same thing for the same reasons last year after losing Gilmore, Watkins, Woods, Darby, Graham, Mario W., Goodwin, and Z. Brown. Plus, we had the 4th toughest schedule on paper to start the year. I'm still trying to figure out how the hell we made the playoffs. Pure luck. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joevan Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 We aren't starting a bunch of rookies. All of our linemen have starting experience at the NFL level and four of them started for our offensive line which was the 6th best rushing attack in 2017 and 1st in 2016. I may be wrong but I think this group is gonna be fine. Like the additions of Teller and the Cincinnati Center. Hopefully the pass protection improves through some added play action plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 He saying all the right things. I really hope he can take a step forward this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikademus Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 18 hours ago, Doc said: Pure luck. I'll take it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 On 5/25/2018 at 9:36 AM, 26CornerBlitz said: JOHN MILLER FULLY COMMITTED TO REGAIN STARTING ROLE Hope he does. I won't be surprised to see Wyatt get some playing time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 27, 2018 Author Share Posted May 27, 2018 Benched and humbled, Buffalo Bills guard John Miller went back to his roots to get ready for 2018 Miller won the job coming out of training camp, but the Bills kept the competition with Vladimir Ducasse open as the regular season started. Four games into his third season, Miller was benched for the first time in his professional career, and never saw the field again in 2017. From such a bright standing not even a year prior, he learned first hand of the harsh reality that exists inside professional football -- nothing is guaranteed. "It was on me. I kind of let myself down in a way. Unfortunately, with that, I kind of feel like I let the team down as well," Miller said Thursday. "I lost the job. I own up to that, and I take full responsibility for that." In response to such a stark experience, Miller's fight or flight instincts kicked in -- and he did the one thing he knew could re-center him entering the fourth and final year of his rookie contract with the Bills. He went home to Miami, Florida to be with his family. He went back to his roots. And most importantly, he got back to being himself again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 On 5/25/2018 at 9:03 PM, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...if it was not the scheme, can anybody shed some light how the kid went from the penthouse to outhouse overnight based on this assessment??............. By: Stephen Culley | February 28, 2017 : BILLSWIRE/PFF When the Buffalo Bills selected offensive guard John Miller in the third round of the 2015 NFL Draft, they felt that they had acquired a player that could be an early starter and should develop into a very good one. After a tough rookie season that saw Miller plagued with an ankle issue and struggling to deal with the death of his mother, Miller started to blossom into what the organization hoped he could during his sophomore season in the NFL. That progression has been noticed by the analysts at Pro Football Focus, naming Miller as the most-improved second-year player in the NFL by their grading system. Pah! That Stephen Culley knows nothing.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 On 5/26/2018 at 6:11 AM, joevan said: We aren't starting a bunch of rookies. All of our linemen have starting experience at the NFL level and four of them started for our offensive line which was the 6th best rushing attack in 2017 and 1st in 2016. I may be wrong but I think this group is gonna be fine. Like the additions of Teller and the Cincinnati Center. Hopefully the pass protection improves through some added play action plays. This! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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