Bill_with_it Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Msy the best option to win us games land the starting spot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted June 4, 2018 Author Share Posted June 4, 2018 Early impressions of all 32 NFL first-round picks QB Josh Allen. Allen has practiced solely with the third-team offense through the first two weeks, so we're still a ways from seeing how he performs with top receiver Kelvin Benjamin and tight end Charles Clayamong his targets. The eye-opening arm strength and ball velocity have been as advertised with Allen, but so has his questionable accuracy. In a two-minute drill to end Thursday's practice, Allen missed a receiver on first down and later telegraphed an interception on third down. He got a second chance and was much sharper, moving down the field for a touchdown. Status: Too soon to tell. -- Mike Rodak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 AJ. Thankfully, I feel like we have a coaching staff that will do what is absolutely best for the overall success of the team, regardless of the name on the back of their jersey. They won't throw Allen in if he's not absolutely ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted June 10, 2018 Author Share Posted June 10, 2018 (edited) I still think Allen will eventually win it, but good thing McCarron is looking good https://www.google.com/amp/s/billswire.usatoday.com/2018/06/07/buffalo-bills-josh-allen-sean-mcdermott-first-team/amp/ Sean McDermott open to giving Josh Allen first-team reps: 'It's a fluid situation' This may lead one to believe that McDermott feels as though a veteran quarterback will give the Bills the best chance to win in 2018. It could also mean that he won’t be afraid to start Allen in the 2018 season if he’s ahead of the curve. The coach further explained that Allen is not going to be fast-tracked, stating that there’s a plan in regard to Allen’s development. “It’s early in our process here. We’ve got a plan and we’ve got to stick with it,” McDermott said. “That doesn’t mean we don’t listen and keep our to the ground and our eyes peeled for what’s going on and then adjust accordingly. That’s important. But the important part right now is that we develop a strong foundation and that’s what we’re doing.” Edited June 10, 2018 by transplantbillsfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted June 12, 2018 Author Share Posted June 12, 2018 (edited) And so it begins Edited June 12, 2018 by transplantbillsfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 I will say AJ starts week 1 and plays well enough to start the entire season. Possibly even starts a playoff game. I really think he is better then most people realize and could become a guy that’s hard to bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted June 13, 2018 Author Share Posted June 13, 2018 3 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: I will say AJ starts week 1 and plays well enough to start the entire season. Possibly even starts a playoff game. I really think he is better then most people realize and could become a guy that’s hard to bench. It's a great problem to have 2 starting caliber QBs... I just don't know how much McCarron really fits the bill there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted June 13, 2018 Author Share Posted June 13, 2018 It's happening folks... it's happening Seems like working up from 3rd string isn't so insurmountable, after all. Anyone out there still really think Allen has only a 5-10% chance of becoming the starting QB week one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: It's happening folks... it's happening Seems like working up from 3rd string isn't so insurmountable, after all. Anyone out there still really think Allen has only a 5-10% chance of becoming the starting QB week one? Didnt McD say that getting him reps with the first team during mini camp was part of he plan all along? Still seems really early in the process. Edited June 13, 2018 by Bangarang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Didnt McD say that getting him reps with the first team during mini camp was part of he plan all along? Still seems really early in the process. 10 whole snaps with the 1’s = super bowl!!!!! catch the fever!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted June 14, 2018 Author Share Posted June 14, 2018 6 hours ago, Bangarang said: Didnt McD say that getting him reps with the first team during mini camp was part of he plan all along? Still seems really early in the process. Oh... it's early... and Allen seems all poised to take the reins this Summer. https://www.google.com/amp/amp.wkbw.com/2617781973/7-observations-from-2018-buffalo-bills-minicamp-day-two.html 1) Josh Allen has his best day yet- After watching four practices of Josh Allen with the whole team, I wrote on Tuesday that he has mainly given up and down performances to this point. However, on Wednesday, he had his best day yet without surrendering a throw that makes you utter, 'Well, what was that?' Allen took one set of first-team reps, just as he did on Tuesday, and opened it up by throwing a dart of a touchdown to Jeremy Kerley. He continued in working with the third-team offense the remainder of the day by continuing to show his clear ability throwing the ball that's just a cut above everything else the Bills have on their roster at the position. Now the one thing I did notice him do a couple of times was trying to get away with making a play with only his arm while sacrificing his footwork. There are times where he won't have a chance to set his feet and make a throw during a game, but in these specific instances he had the time to do so, and it cost him an incompletion. However, that was about as much as you could say in a negative light for Allen's practice on Wednesday, and the Bills have to be happy with the progress that he's made already in this short time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 Getting all 3 reps with all 3 teams best thing to do. You might see a connection between JA and a second string backup, or you might see a connection between AJ and a projected third string wr that leads to that guy being brought up to second string. Due diligence to get every QB reps with every wr combo. Nothing more, nothing less. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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transplantbillsfan Posted June 14, 2018 Author Share Posted June 14, 2018 Okay, so here's what I think is going on: McDermott's "plan" is and has been to have McCarron start and let Allen watch. But it's a "plan" only, I believe, in the sense that it's something he can count on. When you set low/realistic expectations, anything beyond is cherry. Sure, he can't count on Allen being ready because it's still so early in the process of evaluating him. But plans change. I really think he and Dabol are going to have some seriously long talks over the next 6 weeks about how to maximize Allen's development while managing to protect him as a rookie starting QB because as cryptic as McDermott can be, I think he can see that Allen's ahead of the anticipated curve and that the rest of the team can see that, as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 I wouldn't worry about Allen over throwing Ray Ray... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 Harness the camaraderie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 1 hour ago, transplantbillsfan said: Okay, so here's what I think is going on: McDermott's "plan" is and has been to have McCarron start and let Allen watch. But it's a "plan" only, I believe, in the sense that it's something he can count on. When you set low/realistic expectations, anything beyond is cherry. Sure, he can't count on Allen being ready because it's still so early in the process of evaluating him. But plans change. I really think he and Dabol are going to have some seriously long talks over the next 6 weeks about how to maximize Allen's development while managing to protect him as a rookie starting QB because as cryptic as McDermott can be, I think he can see that Allen's ahead of the anticipated curve and that the rest of the team can see that, as well. Mere words cannot describe how much I want this to be true. He wasn’t my guy before the draft, but he IS our guy now, so I’m praying for the best!!! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted June 14, 2018 Author Share Posted June 14, 2018 Just now, Augie said: Mere words cannot describe how much I want this to be true. He wasn’t my guy before the draft, but he IS our guy now, so I’m praying for the best!!! I think with the confidence you've seen in Allen from the likes of Tre White and Shady and then the entire offense running onto the field excitedly chest bumping Allen after that 70 yard TD to Proehl. If the team sees Allen as the best option clearly, I think McDermott is going to be hard-pressed to keep him on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 43 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: I think with the confidence you've seen in Allen from the likes of Tre White and Shady and then the entire offense running onto the field excitedly chest bumping Allen after that 70 yard TD to Proehl. If the team sees Allen as the best option clearly, I think McDermott is going to be hard-pressed to keep him on the bench. Hard to tell if they clearly see him as the best option. He's only gotten 6 snaps with the first team and performed just okay. The enthusiasm is encouraging. Just means the team is behind him and there should be no qualms when he eventually does start, as long as there's no disruption in that chemistry. At least, those pre-draft Tweets obviously had no effect. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 We need to see some live fire bullets before answering this question 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 49 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: I think with the confidence you've seen in Allen from the likes of Tre White and Shady and then the entire offense running onto the field excitedly chest bumping Allen after that 70 yard TD to Proehl. If the team sees Allen as the best option clearly, I think McDermott is going to be hard-pressed to keep him on the bench. ...just don't recall what a 70 yd TD PASS looks like at "The Ralph/Hat".......thought such a thing was extinct..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 Just now, John from Riverside said: We need to see some live fire bullets before answering this question Action John. Action not bullets. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted June 14, 2018 Author Share Posted June 14, 2018 31 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...just don't recall what a 70 yd TD PASS looks like at "The Ralph/Hat".......thought such a thing was extinct..... Did you watch the 2016 home opener? It happened twice in that one game Regardless, this is encouraging... and I think the team rallying behind him is the most encouraging part of all of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Did you watch the 2016 home opener? It happened twice in that one game Regardless, this is encouraging... and I think the team rallying behind him is the most encouraging part of all of it. ......remember Losman's TWO 83 yd bombs to #83?........probably his only claim to fame but it still was neat...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 4 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ......remember Losman's TWO 83 yd bombs to #83?........probably his only claim to fame but it still was neat...... One is the loneliest number since the number 2. 2 in one game. How many for the remaining 15 games? Final answer. Not many. The CoT won’t quit. ?♂️ SMH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted June 14, 2018 Author Share Posted June 14, 2018 Oh good, so you do remember. Was concerned about your memory for a moment Or Fitzy's 98 yarder to TO Yep... they've happened. Not very concerned with the distance of the TD... just concerned with getting the QB who can get us to the most Ws on the field. 13 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: One is the loneliest number since the number 2. 2 in one game. How many for the remaining 15 games? Final answer. Not many. The CoT won’t quit. ?♂️ SMH CoT, huh? Yep... just brought Fitz up, too, cause he also threw some bombs in the Ralph. Bro, who are you even talking to? I'm on your ignore list... aren't I? Get back to your rep count envy of 26CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 Allen is by far the most physically gifted of the bunch. Nothing in Allen's past says he will shutdown and not be able to progress when adversity hits. Given those two points why would you not start him to get him game experience? The more Allen gets exposed to the faster he will develop. Allen will have some terrible games He seems like the kind of player who will not allow it to impact his next game. Allen is strong emotionally. The biggest question will be live game decisions. Can Allen adjust to the pro game? These will only be answered with game experience. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted June 15, 2018 Author Share Posted June 15, 2018 1 hour ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: Allen is by far the most physically gifted of the bunch. Nothing in Allen's past says he will shutdown and not be able to progress when adversity hits. Given those two points why would you not start him to get him game experience? The more Allen gets exposed to the faster he will develop. Allen will have some terrible games He seems like the kind of player who will not allow it to impact his next game. Allen is strong emotionally. The biggest question will be live game decisions. Can Allen adjust to the pro game? These will only be answered with game experience. Agreed... I think either his rawness was incredibly overblown or he progressed exponentially in the offseason working with Palmer. And based on Beane’s statement that “raw” was essentially what the media basically inaccurately painted him as, I'd guess more the former than the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Allen is a project and you don't want to throw a project QB like Allen behind this O-line with a less than stellar skill position core. Throw AJ to the wolves and let him take the hits. Hell I would rather throw Peterman out there before Allen, I don't want to !@#$ up a player's confidence by asking him to save a **** offense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 I have no idea what JA can or will do. He's a total empty canvas at this point IMHO. I Hope he does well and this wasn't a HUGE mistake. Time will tell. That's all I have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 I don’t care as long as it’s not Tyrod Taylor. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 8 hours ago, billsfan89 said: Allen is a project and you don't want to throw a project QB like Allen behind this O-line with a less than stellar skill position core. Throw AJ to the wolves and let him take the hits. Hell I would rather throw Peterman out there before Allen, I don't want to !@#$ up a player's confidence by asking him to save a **** offense. That was always my thought too. I’m starting to be ok with idea that Allen May be the #1 opening day....but I still think it’s in his best interests to sit him til the colts game or the following week, week 7 or 8. The earliest he should start is week 4 vs GB. No chance I’d play him vs that Viking defense with our OL and WRs. Pain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 10 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ......remember Losman's TWO 83 yd bombs to #83?........probably his only claim to fame but it still was neat...... I believe Trent Edwards has the longest TD pass in team history; 99 yds to TO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted June 15, 2018 Author Share Posted June 15, 2018 9 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: I believe Trent Edwards has the longest TD pass in team history; 99 yds to TO. That was Fitz and it was, from memory only, 98 yards. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Just now, transplantbillsfan said: That was Fitz and it was, from memory only, 98 yards. Are you sure? I didn't look it up but I remember Edwards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted June 15, 2018 Author Share Posted June 15, 2018 16 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Are you sure? I didn't look it up but I remember Edwards? Yes, 100% sure. I looked at Trent's 2009 (the year TO was in Buffalo) game logs just to make sure. He had one 48 yard TD to TO... that was his longest to him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Don't forget he threw the longest pass in team history last season - a 98-yard bomb to Terrell Owens. https://www.buffalorumblings.com/platform/amp/2010/11/23/1831900/ryan-fitzpatrick-continues-to-imprint-bills-record-books Fitz the longest at 98 Todd Collins 2nd longest at 95 Lamonica 3rd at 93 Ferguson 4th at 92 https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_long_single_game.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted June 17, 2018 Author Share Posted June 17, 2018 (edited) http://www.tampabay.com/qbs-sam-darnold-josh-allen-learn-from-greatest-at-us-open-ap_sports0dc7779ebd464a33ad4f1a45390d0a91 Jets fan spots Sam Darnold at U.S. Open, shouts during pro's backswing Sam Darnold and Josh Allen are spending their weekend watching greatness, and for once it's not other football players. They're at Shinnecock Hills for the U.S. Open. Selected in the first round of the 2018 NFL draft — Darnold by the New York Jets, Allen by the Buffalo Bills — the two quarterbacks are headed to the pros but are far from done learning. ... "It's like what me and Sam would do as quarterbacks, evaluating the defense before we snap the ball and trying to get understanding of what they're doing," Allen said. "And that's what they're doing on the course. Before every shot, they're trying to gauge the wind, trying to gauge the distance, and ultimately trying to have the right swing to put the ball where they want." That also includes zoning in on the task and blocking out distractions. ... Allen, who brought his dad — his frequent golfing partner — to Shinnecock Hills, hit 56.3 percent of his passes for 1,812 yards and averaged 164.7 yards per game at Wyoming last year. He went seventh overall. "I love football, so there's nothing that's going to replace that," Allen said. "But golf, it's a second." https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.buffalorumblings.com/platform/amp/2018/6/16/17469940/buffalo-bills-quarterback-competition-dominating-early-headlines-josh-allen-aj-mccarron Buffalo Bills quarterback competition dominating early headlines "If you have two quarterbacks, you really have none.” The old adage regarding quarterback play has been repeated in similar phrasing for many years, and is often thought to be true regardless of the situation. Early on in training camp for the Buffalo Bills, the team has three quarterbacks who are impressing. ... The headliner thus far in camp has been rookie Josh Allen. The Bills first of two first-round draft choices, Allen was selected seventh overall after the Bills executed a series of trade-ups to acquire his services. While many pundits feel that Allen is not ready to start on day one in the NFL, that hasn’t stopped the Wyoming product from showing off the raw talent that led the Bills to make him the third quarterback selected this past April in the NFL Draft. Head coach Sean McDermott said in his press conference prior to practice on Thursday that Allen would remain third on the depth chart heading into training camp. While the rookie may have been playing against other third-string players, he still was impressive, ending minicamp with a long touchdown pass to fellow rookie Austin Proehl. Joe Buscaglia of WKBW notedthat Allen is clearly the most talented quarterback the Bills have, but he will need to show consistency as camp progresses in order to earn more reps. ... In the early going, it appears that the Bills have three quarterbacks who are capable of stepping in and playing in 2018. Hopefully, the early positive returns will carry over into training camp and beyond. Edited June 17, 2018 by transplantbillsfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 On 6/15/2018 at 2:42 PM, transplantbillsfan said: Yes, 100% sure. I looked at Trent's 2009 (the year TO was in Buffalo) game logs just to make sure. He had one 48 yard TD to TO... that was his longest to him. Good, much rather it be Fitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 My input -- and this is never going to happen because we're Bills fans and we're !@#$ing crazy and the words "3 way quarterback competition" turn our insanity meters up to 11-- is that everyone needs to chilllll the !@#$ out and let this competition happen. The 40 page threads, wacky hyperbole, wild prognostications, hand-wringing and over-analysis -- BEFORE TRAINING CAMP HAS EVEN STARTED -- are out of control. The best player will play. Allen may sit 0 games, 5 games, 10 games, or 16 games. There are still an infinite amount of variables. Chilllll outtttt. It'll all work itself out in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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