Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Enjoy your rump roasts, flank steak, prime rib, and burgers while you can, dudes and dude-ettes Once those lone star ticks get a little nibble on ya, it's tofu and bean burgers for a couple of decades https://grist.org/article/lone-star-ticks-are-a-carnivores-nightmare-and-theyre-just-waking-up/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha-gal_allergyhttps://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/893575 https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2670238?redirect=true 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 My opinion on red meat is the same as my opinion on guns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, /dev/null said: My opinion on red meat is the same as my opinion on guns You want to shoot cows? ? I found a can of orange spray paint in my son’s car one day. When asked about it, he said he and a friend were going out one night to do some cow tipping. When they got there they couldn’t’t stand to hurt the cows, so they used the paint they found in his buddies truck to “decorate them”. I know I’ve posted that before, but it still amuses me. We do red meat a few times a year, but I hope they figure this out. A whole beef tenderloin done sous vide is a crowd pleaser around the holidays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 41 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Enjoy your rump roasts, flank steak, prime rib, and burgers while you can, dudes and dude-ettes Once those lone star ticks get a little nibble on ya, it's tofu and bean burgers for a couple of decades https://grist.org/article/lone-star-ticks-are-a-carnivores-nightmare-and-theyre-just-waking-up/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha-gal_allergyhttps://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/893575 https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2670238?redirect=true Eat More Squirell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 CRAP! OK, I just bread the whole thing. We have a friend who travels with an epi-pen for this very reason. A tick got him as an adult. He could die if he stumbles upon even beef broth in the gravy of his turkey meatloaf. That’s a game changer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 18 minutes ago, Augie said: CRAP! OK, I just bread the whole thing. We have a friend who travels with an epi-pen for this very reason. A tick got him as an adult. He could die if he stumbles upon even beef broth in the gravy of his turkey meatloaf. That’s a game changer! If that's the case,he should avoid nearly every type of soup offered on almost any restaurant menu... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said: If that's the case,he should avoid nearly every type of soup offered on almost any restaurant menu... He is VERY careful about everything! He’s well aware that danger lurks everywhere. BTW, pork? The other white meat? Nope....that will kill him too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 The ticks can’t be killed ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Would it really be worth living anymore having that condition????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Oh jeez thanks hopeful ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 20, 2018 Author Share Posted May 20, 2018 24 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: The ticks can’t be killed ? You mean, the ones that you find crawling around on you or already dug in, chowing down? Sure! I like to drop them into bleach, but I'll settle for a satisfying squish with a pliers if none handy. Or do you mean like, all of them? Nuclear war might do it. Short of annihilating all host lifeforms, otherwise probably not: "On top of lone stars’ rapacious mentality, Old Dominion’s Gaff says that after conducting a series of experiments, the bugs “seem to be invincible.” She’s tried freezing them — but they came crawling out of the freezer after seven days on ice. Next, she tried drowning them, figuring that sea-level rise on Virginia’s coast could end up doing humanity a favor by drowning out tick populations. Her team submerged lone stars in salt, fresh, and brackish water. Every single tick lasted for at least 30 days in each condition — the last lone star died after 74 days." They're tough little buggers. 1 hour ago, Misterbluesky said: Eat More Squirell. No dice, mate, they got that alpha-gal sugar going on too: "found in nearly all mammals, except humans and a few other primates" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Just don't go hiking and bit by a tick. I am understand the assumption that that humans get bit by tick causing the allergy, not the cow or pig. Right? 1 hour ago, Misterbluesky said: Eat More Squirell. Eat more Asian carp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Just a bump in the road BEEF FOREVER !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 4 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Enjoy your rump roasts, flank steak, prime rib, and burgers while you can, dudes and dude-ettes Once those lone star ticks get a little nibble on ya, it's tofu and bean burgers for a couple of decades https://grist.org/article/lone-star-ticks-are-a-carnivores-nightmare-and-theyre-just-waking-up/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha-gal_allergyhttps://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/893575 https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2670238?redirect=true Reading the title I thought this might be touching on the issue that raising cattle for meat is an inefficient use of resources but terrifying parasites are nice too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 4 hours ago, Warcodered said: Reading the title I thought this might be touching on the issue that raising cattle for meat is an inefficient use of resources but terrifying parasites are nice too. Soyboy alert! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 4 hours ago, Warcodered said: Reading the title I thought this might be touching on the issue that raising cattle for meat is an inefficient use of resources but terrifying parasites are nice too. What’s the inefficient part ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KW95 - JA17 Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 31 minutes ago, joesixpack said: Soyboy alert! or Soy Bomb! and enjoy Dylan's solo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 20, 2018 Author Share Posted May 20, 2018 7 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Just don't go hiking and bit by a tick. I am understand the assumption that that humans get bit by tick causing the allergy, not the cow or pig. Right? Eat more Asian carp. Yes, it's the tick bite that causes the allergy. Due to booming populations of deer and expanding suburbs, ticks aren't just for hikers anymore; I've seen deer strolling down front lawns of a large suburb at noon, chowing on front yard plantings. Ticks fall off the deer into your forsythia, make thousands of tick babies which survive due to warmer winters, you stroll up to prune your forsythia and CHOWTIME (for the tick) I hear Asian carp are delicious. 8 hours ago, Boyst62 said: Oh jeez thanks hopeful ? You're welcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Need to allow does to be hunted and up the allowed bounties. Deer are a menace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 We should all wear flea and tick collars 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 14 minutes ago, The Poojer said: We should all wear flea and tick collars Ha! Especially where I live it’s tick central Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakeBuffaloGreatAgain Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Yes, it's the tick bite that causes the allergy. Due to booming populations of deer and expanding suburbs, ticks aren't just for hikers anymore; I've seen deer strolling down front lawns of a large suburb at noon, chowing on front yard plantings. Ticks fall off the deer into your forsythia, make thousands of tick babies which survive due to warmer winters, you stroll up to prune your forsythia and CHOWTIME (for the tick) I hear Asian carp are delicious. You're welcome You sure about the warmer winters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 20, 2018 Author Share Posted May 20, 2018 25 minutes ago, MakeBuffaloGreatAgain said: You sure about the warmer winters? https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/temp-and-precip/us-trends/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 4 hours ago, Teddy KGB said: What’s the inefficient part ? The amount of resources used to make meat has far less of a return of food compared to other food sources. To be clear I like meat I just see how if your making a more efficient model for producing food it might get left off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, Warcodered said: Reading the title I thought this might be touching on the issue that raising cattle for meat is an inefficient use of resources but terrifying parasites are nice too. Not overly inefficient. Most cattle are raised in systems other than confined lots. The soils that they graze generally do not allow for other types of agriculture beyond grazing/hay. Cattle for dairy and beef is very prevalent in areas such as the Southern Tier as the soils typically are not suited for grain or vegetable production. Wheat production went mass scale in the Southern Tier during WWI and the results were a disaster. Imagine your favorite wooded area in Stueben, Allegany, Cattaraugus, etc. counties bare around 1917 other than wheat and some pasture/hay and that was going on. I can't imagine walking upright alone never mind in back of a horse and plow on some of that terrain. Soil erosion was pretty bad and the hills did not produce well so when wheat went off peak prices around 1920 many were forced to let the hills go back to wooded land. That is the ones who did not go broke thinking the boom was going to go on for many years after WWI. Edited May 20, 2018 by RochesterRob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 12 hours ago, Teddy KGB said: The ticks can’t be killed ? We've tried everything, but they just keep posting on PPP... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Beard Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 I believe the explosion in ticks is partly because people don’t let their cats go out and roam the neighborhoods anymore. Cats are killing machines. Mice, chipmunks, baby rabbits, etc. The rabbit population has exploded in my area of central NY. Cats could reduce the population of the small rodents and other creatures that are part of the life cycle of ticks. My wife hates cats. They’re sneaky. No cats for us. And if we had one, we’d probably be one of those families that would never let it outside. Support your local feral cats! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 36 minutes ago, Gray Beard said: I believe the explosion in ticks is partly because people don’t let their cats go out and roam the neighborhoods anymore. Cats are killing machines. Mice, chipmunks, baby rabbits, etc. The rabbit population has exploded in my area of central NY. Cats could reduce the population of the small rodents and other creatures that are part of the life cycle of ticks. My wife hates cats. They’re sneaky. No cats for us. And if we had one, we’d probably be one of those families that would never let it outside. Support your local feral cats! Did you hear about the mountain lion attack in WaState? First death since 1925 on a human in Washington. Two bikers. One lived. Cats are cowards. Fight back, stand tall... Give them hell, don't run... Run and it becomes "kitty playtime." Just like a house cat. Go Alpha on their cowardly azz. Wife has cats. I was never a cat person... But I dominate them. No worries at all. The cats submit when you go big on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 5 hours ago, Gray Beard said: I believe the explosion in ticks is partly because people don’t let their cats go out and roam the neighborhoods anymore. Cats are killing machines. Mice, chipmunks, baby rabbits, etc. The rabbit population has exploded in my area of central NY. Cats could reduce the population of the small rodents and other creatures that are part of the life cycle of ticks. My wife hates cats. They’re sneaky. No cats for us. And if we had one, we’d probably be one of those families that would never let it outside. Support your local feral cats! Neighbors hate the feral cats in the neighborhood. I have to remind them every year "We live next to a storm drain; you'll hate the rat problem we'd have without them a lot more." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 44 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Neighbors hate the feral cats in the neighborhood. I have to remind them every year "We live next to a storm drain; you'll hate the rat problem we'd have without them a lot more." We got a robin's nest with three baby robins in blue spruce off of deck. If our 3 cats went outside, birds would be toast. But, so would cats. I give them 48 hours with the coyotes if they ventured off property. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 23 hours ago, The Poojer said: We should all wear flea and tick collars You’re on to something .... kinky, as usual..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 On 5/19/2018 at 10:30 PM, Misterbluesky said: Eat More Squirell. A friend of mine got tired of a squirrel constantly ruining her garden so she caught it and cooked it. She is from China and ate a lot of weird things and said it was the worst tasting meat she ever had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 And get the feral cats to eat squirrels and I'd be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 2 hours ago, Limeaid said: And get the feral cats to eat squirrels and I'd be happy. And coyotes to eat the feral cats. They don't do a bad job with the rodent/rabbit population... Outdoor cats do damage to bird population. They are an ecological disaster. Birds control insects, pollinate, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsidethebox Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 12 hours ago, DC Tom said: Neighbors hate the feral cats in the neighborhood. I have to remind them every year "We live next to a storm drain; you'll hate the rat problem we'd have without them a lot more." You live in a sewer? Are you green and habe a shell on your back? That would explain a lot of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 call the Orkin man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Feral cats? Go get you some fisher cats if you want dead rabbits. Side story saw two foxes hanging out in the woods this weekend near my mother’s house. They tried to stare us down and seemed to be protecting a den? Babies maybe? I didn’t want to disturb them so I didn’t go in for a closer look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 4 hours ago, Limeaid said: A friend of mine got tired of a squirrel constantly ruining her garden so she caught it and cooked it. She is from China and ate a lot of weird things and said it was the worst tasting meat she ever had. Odds are she included the organs in her dish...I don't do that. Anyway,different strokes for different folks...for example,I don't like the taste of lamb.p.s.-My wife won't eat squirrel either,but she's a fuss ass. 13 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said: We got a robin's nest with three baby robins in blue spruce off of deck. If our 3 cats went outside, birds would be toast. But, so would cats. I give them 48 hours with the coyotes if they ventured off property. And I'll bet your patio deck is full of bird crap.Enjoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 14 minutes ago, Misterbluesky said: Odds are she included the organs in her dish...I don't do that. Anyway,different strokes for different folks...for example,I don't like the taste of lamb.p.s.-My wife won't eat squirrel either,but she's a fuss ass. And I'll bet your patio deck is full of bird crap.Enjoy. Rain for now is washing it. Yeah, I tell Crazy Bird Lady (wife) that the birds suck! Feeders aren't helping. I am the labor/help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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