Watch: AJ McCarron "Highlights" from 2015

[Boatdrinks]

3 hours ago, CountDorkula said:

And people hated Tyrod for that. McCarron is Taylor without the running ability. Going in thinking McCarron is going to be anything short of woefully inconsistent is bad news, he is just not good. There is a reason "Despite what you say is "eye popping" numbers at Alabama he was graded out as a mid round QB. 

 

Tyrods "Game management" got us 3 points in a playoff loss.

 

True, but Tyrod did that for double the money, and has little chance of improving his game. McCarron is not here to be a long term starter. He's here as an average stop-gap making below average money, until the rookie is ready. If he outperforms that, great. I'll agree, anyone expecting more out of McCarron is probably going to be disappointed. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

22 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

If Allen is as raw as everyone says he is and considering the state of the Bills receivers and offensive line then he should ride the bench for the year unless he proves in training camp/preseason he's the best QBof the group. 

 

Still if McCarron is the starter as everyone believes he will be and he blows I hope they don't panic and insert Allen into the line up when he's not ready. Take your medicine with McCarron until Allen is ready for the league.

 

Still think they should've kept Tyrod. Would have a much better shot of winning this year while keeping Allen on the bench for at least the year. It makes too much sense.

 

This is one of my major concerns with the choice to draft Allen.   Read between the lines on his Wyoming OC's interview, posted in another thread.  Basically, he said Allen came out of a JUCO offense where he didn't know too much, and because of arm talent and athletic ability, they wound up putting him in their second game as a sophomore.  He scored on his first drive. 

 

Then he led them down the field on his second drive.  34 yard run.  Put his shoulder down.  Result: clavicle broken in 7 places, metal plate, 8 screws.  He broke the same shoulder in HS.  Then he injured his shoulder (sprained AC joint) last fall.

 

People talk about putting in a QB who's not ready as if the QB being over his head and performing poorly is the worst thing that can happen.  It's not.  The worst thing that can happen is you put a gamer, a competitive plays-with-hair-on-fire kind of guy, into the game before he clearly understands what his options ought to be, and he takes the ball into his own hands and tries too hard to make things happen.  If the result is a career-changing or even a season-ending injury, THAT'S the worst thing that can happen.

 

And yet, when you have a vet with limited playing experience, if he goes out and craps the bed the temptation is to throw in your rookie high-draft pick and let him swim. 

 

Now, if Allen pulls a Wilson and comes into training camp Day 1 fired up and ready to lead and is clearly "with it" on what he's being asked to do, able and willing to slide, and looks like the consensus better choice all around, that's a different story.

 

Given the choice to draft Allen, the Taylor thing does puzzle me.  My best guess is they felt Daboll could make McCarron effective enough and he's a better fit in some other ways.

[Domdab99]

Fine, I’ll make anyone a bet who wants in:

 

Josh Allen will start at least 4 games this year.  If he’s injured, bet is voided.

 

Who wants the under? 

 

My point with this is that I believe that Allen is not nearly as raw as the pundits think he is. And that Beane, McD, Dabol, and everyone else in the Bills’ organization, believes like I do, and will start him as soon as he’s capable.

Edited May 7, 2018 by Domdab99

[GoBills808]

Just now, Domdab99 said:

Fine, I’ll make anyone a bet who wants in:

 

Josh Allen will start at least 4 games this year.  If he’s injured, bet is voided.

 

Who wants the under? 

I would think everyone wants the under, it most likely means McCarron is playing well enough to keep us in playoff contention and Allen is sitting and learning.

 

 

[Sky Diver]

A lot negative Nellie's here

Edited May 7, 2018 by Sky Diver

[teef]

2 minutes ago, Domdab99 said:

Fine, I’ll make anyone a bet who wants in:

 

Josh Allen will start at least 4 games this year.  If he’s injured, bet is voided.

 

Who wants the under? 

I don’t anyone is saying his will or won’t happen. I just don’t think many agree with you that if Allen isn’t starting by game 4, he’s no the guy.  Those are two very different things. 

[Domdab99]

2 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

I would think everyone wants the under, it most likely means McCarron is playing well enough to keep us in playoff contention and Allen is sitting and learning.

 

 

 

Lol McCarron won’t keep us in playoff contention. You learn by doing, not sitting.

 

I’ll even make a bet that Allen starts the season opener. Give me 4-1 and I’ll take that bet. 

Edited May 7, 2018 by Domdab99

[Sky Diver]

The constant bashing of Allen and McCarron is tiresome. 

 

McCarron has a strong pedigree.

 

 

Edited May 7, 2018 by Sky Diver

[GoBills808]

Just now, Domdab99 said:

 

Lol McCarron won’t keep us in playoff contention. You learn by doing, not sitting.

 

ill even make a bet that Allen starts the season opener. Give me 4-1 and I’ll take that bet. 

You want 4-1 on a first rounder we traded up to 7 for over AJ McCarron? You sure you're from Vegas?

 

Let's make it: Odds of Bills Day 1 Starting QB

 

Allen +155

McCarron even

Peterman +325

 

You in?

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 hour ago, TheBrownBear said:

AJ McCarron is basically Matt Cassell.  A perfectly acceptable starter on a 4-6 win team.

 

And yet, "Meh" Cassell does have 2 10-5 seasons on 2 different teams because......

[Domdab99]

3 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

You want 4-1 on a first rounder we traded up to 7 for over AJ McCarron? You sure you're from Vegas?

 

Let's make it: Odds of Bills Day 1 Starting QB

 

Allen +155

McCarron even

Peterman +325

 

You in?

 

Put Allen at +225 and I’m in. ?

Edited May 7, 2018 by Domdab99

[vorpma]

3 hours ago, CountDorkula said:

I'm genuinely curious how what anything I said anger? IS it because I don't just get in line and say "Yeap" Great move by the Bills?

You could propose a counterpoint stating why you think AJ McCarron will be a good starting QB, but you know instead jsut call someone angry and say the board is going down hill.

 

I mean you are right that it is, but that started when BBMB closed. 

Maybe an over reaction on my part, you did express an opinion and I did not counter, I concede the point you made in your response! 

[Lurker]

14 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

Given the choice to draft Allen, the Taylor thing does puzzle me.  My best guess is they felt Daboll could make McCarron effective enough and he's a better fit in some other ways.

 

I'm thinking they didn't want to subject TT to the "torches and pitchfork" treatment and howling at the moon for Allen they'll absolutely get if they start the season like 2-5 or worse.    The Bills have no allegiance to McCarron and may be using him as a more acceptable punching bag (bridge) to next year.

 

The biggest worry I now have about Allen is the pressure from fans to get him on the field right away...

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

12 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

Someone has got his Twitter all tweaked in a bunch

 

6 TD's 2 INT's .   280 passing yards  2 TD's and 2 INT's came in the Steelers regular season game where he entered when Dalton got hurt. 

 

Playoff Game  1 TD's and 1 INT's and the lead with 1:30 on the clock until everyone BUT AJ blew the game.   

First a fumble on the Steelers 9 yard line, then 2,  not one but 2 Fifteen yard penalties that put the Stillers in FG range and the win.  

 

12 hours ago, aceman_16 said:

So this dude picked out every bad play and showcased it.  One could do the same thing for Brady,  Rodgers,  Brees,  etc..  I had better ways to waste time.

I think he's a good friend of 26 Blitz so he felt compelled to copy and paste that "tweet" 

[eball]

2 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

 

I expect the offense Bills to be pretty bad this year.  

 

-- ScottLaw, circa 2004-2018

 

(Just messin' with ya) 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

Don't you LOVE the hypocrites that LAUD Tyrod Taylor for passing 190 YPG yet want to trash a sophomore for doing the same ????  

 

Enough with the crusade 26CB.  We din't need a 2nd or 3rd thread from you on it.  

 

[Sky Diver]

29 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

This is one of my major concerns with the choice to draft Allen.   Read between the lines on his Wyoming OC's interview, posted in another thread.  Basically, he said Allen came out of a JUCO offense where he didn't know too much, and because of arm talent and athletic ability, they wound up putting him in their second game as a sophomore.  He scored on his first drive. 

 

Then he led them down the field on his second drive.  34 yard run.  Put his shoulder down.  Result: clavicle broken in 7 places, metal plate, 8 screws.  He broke the same shoulder in HS.  Then he injured his shoulder (sprained AC joint) last fall.

 

People talk about putting in a QB who's not ready as if the QB being over his head and performing poorly is the worst thing that can happen.  It's not.  The worst thing that can happen is you put a gamer, a competitive plays-with-hair-on-fire kind of guy, into the game before he clearly understands what his options ought to be, and he takes the ball into his own hands and tries too hard to make things happen.  If the result is a career-changing or even a season-ending injury, THAT'S the worst thing that can happen.

 

And yet, when you have a vet with limited playing experience, if he goes out and craps the bed the temptation is to throw in your rookie high-draft pick and let him swim. 

 

Now, if Allen pulls a Wilson and comes into training camp Day 1 fired up and ready to lead and is clearly "with it" on what he's being asked to do, able and willing to slide, and looks like the consensus better choice all around, that's a different story.

 

Given the choice to draft Allen, the Taylor thing does puzzle me.  My best guess is they felt Daboll could make McCarron effective enough and he's a better fit in some other ways.

 

Aaron Rodgers has had two broken clavicles. It's football; injuries happen.

 

I don't see the connection between Taylor and Allen. Taylor just wasn't good enough and we traded him for the 3rd rd gift before we knew we would get Allen.

[Heavy Kevi]

4 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

TBF, that's like a "low light" set of GIFs that guy put together.

 

A couple more balanced views (game film starts at 40 sec on the first one)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsjJbu_O3n4

Cover1 Film Room (get into the game film about 10 min in)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsjJbu_O3n4

Last but not least, 2015 Highlights.  I love it, but it could just be because I'd love anything featuring Dire Straights Sultans of Swing

 

 

For real. Knopfler is a badass.

 

That solo is Rolling Stone's 33rd best guitar solo ever.

[eball]

3 minutes ago, Sky Diver said:

 

Aaron Rodgers has had two broken clavicles. It's football; injuries happen.

 

I don't see the connection between Taylor and Allen. Taylor just wasn't good enough and we traded him for the 3rd rd gift before we knew we would get Allen.

 

Not to mention Tyrod allowed us to get Edmunds.

[John from Riverside]

3 minutes ago, Sky Diver said:

 

Aaron Rodgers has had two broken clavicles. It's football; injuries happen.

 

I don't see the connection between Taylor and Allen. Taylor just wasn't good enough and we traded him for the 3rd rd gift before we knew we would get Allen.

While injuries do happen.....he needs to be taught to protect himself even if he is a huge wilderbeast

[John from Riverside]

7 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

Don't you LOVE the hypocrites that LAUD Tyrod Taylor for passing 190 YPG yet want to trash a sophomore for doing the same ????  

 

Enough with the crusade 26CB.  We din't need a 2nd or 3rd thread from you on it.  

 

Jut one thing to point out

 

Yes AJM will probably exceed TT's passing yards

 

BUT

 

TT brought other things to the table that AJM will not.....like yards on the ground

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

3 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

Jut one thing to point out

 

Yes AJM will probably exceed TT's passing yards

 

BUT

 

TT brought other things to the table that AJM will not.....like yards on the ground

Which was TT's  BIGGEST reason for FAILURE. 

 

Make him a QB.   Stop the run force TT to pass. 

 

AJM  1 TD, 1 INT and 16 points in a Playoff game!!!    

TT      0 TD, 1 INT and   3 points in a Playoff game!!!     

Edited May 7, 2018 by ShadyBillsFan

[BuffaloHokie13]

7 minutes ago, eball said:

Not to mention Tyrod allowed us to get Edmunds.

Well, he saved us from using a 2019 2nd rounder anyway.

 

6 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

Someone find the Tyrod Taylor Low light Film coverage

 

2 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

Which was TT's  BIGGEST reason for FAILURE. 

 

Make him a QB.   Stop the run force TT to pass. 

 

16 points in a Playoff game!!!    

Man, I thought you were over it. He's on another team

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

Just now, BuffaloHokie13 said:

Well, he saved us from using a 2019 2nd rounder anyway.

 

 

Man, I thought you were over it. He's on another team

I'm doing this for the hypocrites with their agenda.    Innocent parties should just ignore this. 

 

Do we really need a full 3 months more of crusades against AJ McCarron and Josh Allen before Pre Season Starts? 

 

To the crusaders  - If your guy wasn't selected Grow a Pair and move on.   

 

[BuffaloHokie13]

1 minute ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

I'm doing this for the hypocrites with their agenda.    Innocent parties should just ignore this. 

 

Do we really need a full 3 months more of crusades against AJ McCarron and Josh Allen before Pre Season Starts? 

 

To the crusaders  - If your guy wasn't selected Grow a Pair and move on.   

Do we really need to pretend he's going to be great? I'm on record, I believe Josh Allen will start this year and early (and it will be good for him).

Edited May 7, 2018 by BuffaloHokie13

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

P.S.  You do know the meaning behind     right?       

[Mr. WEO]

1 hour ago, aceman_16 said:

I wouldn't do it because it is disingenuous and a passive aggressive way to make a point - in case you MISSED my point. If someone wants to post a negative review...  go for it.  However,  call it what it is.  To say it is a "highlight" film is innane and immature.

 

 

Oh I didn't miss your point.  It's kind of inane to compare bad play from a guy like McCarron to bad plays from some of the greatest of all time with the old "even the best QBs have bad games" stuff.  Absolutely no equivalence, no matter how small, can be drawn between McCarron and those three.

 

People use that line (we saw it here more than once with EJ) all the time and it is so unpersuasive that I don't know why they bother, except maybe to convince themselves it's "not a bad sign".

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

2 hours ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:

Do we really need to pretend he's going to be great? I'm on record, I believe Josh Allen will start this year and early.

Did I say he was going to be great?    No, I did not. 

 

I have said - Give the guy a chance!  We lost 1 Hokie and we gained 2 more!  Be happy 

Edited May 7, 2018 by Hapless Bills Fan
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[26CornerBlitz]

The whinging over criticism of AJM in this thread is less than impressive. If anyone can't handle it, then it's their problem.  Grow up and realize you have no control over the situation and if you don't like this thread then don't read it or participate.   That is all.

 

Peace and Blessings. 

Edited May 7, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz

[BuffaloHokie13]

Just now, ShadyBillsFan said:

Did I say he was going to be great?    No, I did not. 

 

I have said - Give the guy a chance!  I do not promote flooding the board with Bogus Tweets copied here as a means of Trolling.  

It's one guy's film breakdown, and it's valid. Just because something has a negative slant doesn't make it trolling. Making up bogus statistics instead of using actual data, refusing to back up a point with valid data or even a reasonable premise, those are trolling. This thread, aside from snarky use of quotes in the title, is not trolling.

[Logic]

Lowlight videos are as useless as highlight videos.

You could package together the 10 worst plays of any QB in the NFL and make a similar video.

 

[HappyDays]

No one should be expecting McCarron to be anything but a backup quality QB. He was the last and cheapest QB available in free agency. He has actually started games and looked like a backup in those games. That being said if it's better for Allen's development I don't care if McCarron starts most of the year. This year's success will not be determined by our number of wins.

[Steptide]

I actually think McCarron will end up being cut during training camp or shortly before the season. Imo Peterman and Allen probably arnt much worse or much better 

[C.Biscuit97]

1 minute ago, Steptide said:

I actually think McCarron will end up being cut during training camp or shortly before the season. Imo Peterman and Allen probably arnt much worse or much better 

I think Peterman is more likely to get cut.  AJ is an average at best type of qb but Allen needs a vet to learn under & McCarron is making reasonable money.

[Fadingpain]

Rule #1 of NFL football:  Never take a QB from Alabama not named Namath, Stabler, or Starr. 

 

Rule #2:  Never forget Rule #1.

 

 

[John from Riverside]

28 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

Which was TT's  BIGGEST reason for FAILURE. 

 

Make him a QB.   Stop the run force TT to pass. 

 

AJM  1 TD, 1 INT and 16 points in a Playoff game!!!    

TT      0 TD, 1 INT and   3 points in a Playoff game!!!     

We have to get to the playoff game first

[Fadingpain]

Rule #3 of football:  Never watch AJ McCarron video when you can watch Katherine Webb video instead.

 

(PS  Matt Lauer was probably trying every move in the book off camera. LOL) 

 

 

[vorpma]

4 hours ago, billsfan1959 said:

Actually, the post wasn't directed at you, but rather, the posters who continually offer negative prognostications as if they are fact, are completely dismissive and condescending to anyone who chooses to look at things in a more positive light, and then rationalize their behavior by citing the history of this franchise as if it some license to behave in an uncivil way. It is a small segmet of posters; however, they can sometimes be the most vocal.

 

My response was not about believing the Bills can do no wrong, because they clearly have over the fifty or so years I have followed them - often. It was about the declarations of certain posters, in response to virtually every decision this team makes that they do not agree with, that the decision will result in complete failure with no chance of success. It is not just a doubt or skepticism, such as you have about McCarron (which I share, by the way) or someone may have about Allen (which I share as well), or any other decision: It is a certainty of failure and there is no room for debate.

Again, great post Billsfan 1959; you guys want skepticism - live through the 1968, 1970, 1971, 1976, 1977, 1984, and 1985 seasons. Watch 1st round picks flop, QB merry go rounds then have OJ Simpson, Jim Braxton, Heaven Moses, Bob Chandler, JD Hill, and Marlin Briscoe and still finish last in offense! I'm with "McBean" as many of you call them and love what they are doing! If no results in three years I will jump on the bandwagon and offer criticism as many others will, but they get a chance! It took Chuck Knox with a new Front Office and some great drafts three years to get into the playoffs and Bill Polian three years and some change to get into the AFC Championship. Me - loving and enjoying the process!

[CountDorkula]

14 minutes ago, Logic said:

Lowlight videos are as useless as highlight videos.

You could package together the 10 worst plays of any QB in the NFL and make a similar video.

 

People keep saying this, yet no one has brought one of those videos to the table.

[starrymessenger]

Wow. Lookin good lol.

I hope this sample is not representative.