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3 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

Ethos: Character and credibility, often inclusive of expertise and knowledge. (Thanks Aristotle :thumbsup:)

 

All in all, I have listened to Palmer talk about Allen and Watson and Darnold a good bit... he really seems genuinely excited about Allen in interviews I've watched and listened to, slightly less about Darnold. ...

oh boy, we're in trouble now. this has to be the official, ''i've turned the corner guys, Allen is the saviour' thread. hopefully this is not the first of a litaney of them defending his throws to the middle (shallow middle, middle middle, deep middle) and the like. 

 

lol, just razzing ya, here trans.

 

at this point of the journey, we are all or at least we all should be on the same page together in unbridled enthusiasim at what our new QB will be able to do. the season cannot get here quick enough for me at this point.

 

asto Palmer... i wouldn't get all worked up by his analysis. i mean, just who exactly has this guy coached/mentored that has been fantastic? how long has he been coaching/mentoring qb's?

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13 minutes ago, Foxx said:

oh boy, we're in trouble now. this has to be the official, ''i've turned the corner guys, Allen is the saviour' thread. hopefully this is not the first of a litaney of them defending his throws to the middle (shallow middle, middle middle, deep middle) and the like. 

 

lol, just razzing ya, here trans.

 

Transplant went from hating Allen as a prospect to defending him with his life. I look forward to a lot of very long and repetitive argument threads ?

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Have we reached a point where we will reach for literally anything at all to hang our hats on when it comes to Josh Allen?

 

I'll be honest, I wasn't totally against the pick at the time, but I wasn't thrilled. Since then, I've become more optimistic about it for various reasons, but I'm not trying convince myself any way I can that he'll be good. I/we just don't know. There's no need to try and convince yourself of anything in order to justify the pick. I'm just going to trust that the people in charge know what they're doing, and see where it goes from here. Do I think he'll end up being a good one? Yes, and not based off of a hope that he will be, due to playing for my favorite team. My vindication will only come after he sees the field, and proves it, not from trying to read between the lines of Jordan Palmer interviews.

 

Not trying to be a jerk here, Transplant. Its just that I've seen plenty of posts here lately that try however they can to justify taking Allen over Rosen. And while many of them, I can agree with, it's the whole idea of what we as fans are doing that seems foolish. What's done is done, and quite honestly, it's pretty easy to understand why the Bills took Allen over Rosen IMO. Let's let their play on the field be our justification.

5 hours ago, Carter said:

 

It a big red flag when your coach takes the ball out of your hands during your senior season...

 

It's a big red flag when someone tries to support their agenda by pulling something out of their @$$ and posting it as fact...

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2 hours ago, Wayne Arnold said:

 

Huh?

 

I heard some anti Allen guy on WGR claim that Wyoming took the ball out of his hands and ran it,even though they have a terrible run game.

He said that points to the lack of trust in the QB.

 

Whats the truth?  His attempts do not lend to this theory,but I have no clue.

 

 

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9 minutes ago, dlonce said:

 

I heard some anti Allen guy on WGR claim that Wyoming took the ball out of his hands and ran it,even though they have a terrible run game.

He said that points to the lack of trust in the QB.

 

Whats the truth?  His attempts do not lend to this theory,but I have no clue.

 

 

 

In football you have to run the ball sometimes, no matter how bad your run game is.

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28 minutes ago, MJS said:

 

In football you have to run the ball sometimes, no matter how bad your run game is.

 

The guy was making the point that Wyoming actually ran it far more than other teams despite having a far worse running game. 

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1 hour ago, dlonce said:

 

I heard some anti Allen guy on WGR claim that Wyoming took the ball out of his hands and ran it,even though they have a terrible run game.

He said that points to the lack of trust in the QB.

 

Whats the truth?  His attempts do not lend to this theory,but I have no clue.

 

 

Lol, really? Josh threw the ball 270 times and his backs combined carried for 253. That's a strong ratio when it comes to the ground game.

 

Even in 2016 Allen had 373 passing attempts and his lead back 349 carries.

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52 minutes ago, MPT said:

 

The guy was making the point that Wyoming actually ran it far more than other teams despite having a far worse running game. 

 

That could be the offensive scheme. That could be that the WR's sucked (which they did), and really did the guy know this, or was he guessing? Seems to me like Allen had plenty of pass attempts.

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15 hours ago, Fadingpain said:

I love people around the NFL speak of Buffalo as though the weather there late in the season is radically different than lots of other NFL cities.  It's not.

 

We also don't play all the late season games at home.

 

Weather doesn't really impact Bills football enough to even be a minor concern. 

 

 

 

 

I fully agree. It’s really a non concern. If an NFL QB has difficulty with an occasional windy Sunday on the field, he probably won’t be an NFL QB very long. 

 

I do think I i it’s a larger issue for kickers because the wind swirls that high in the Ralph, especially in the end zones. 

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