TSW Mock Draft vs Actual Draft

[Mr Wild]

1 minute ago, TPS said:

While the sexy pick would be to take the first TE off the board, the Vikings instead do the right thing and invest in the trenches to protect their $84 million (guaranteed) man.

 

With the 30th pick the Minnesota Vikings take Orlando Brown, OT, Oklahoma.

 

Despite one of the slowest 40 times at the combine, the Vikings take the behemoth Brown to plug in at RT, which allows them to move Remmers to RG.

Brown is also Mike Mayock's #2 rated OT.

 

The Patsies are on the clock....

 

 

I get your reasoning but for some reason my mind feels like its a big reach in the first round

[TPS]

4 minutes ago, Mr Wild said:

 

I get your reasoning but for some reason my mind feels like its a big reach in the first round

I looked at several sites and compared the available OTs. In the end, I trust Mayock more than the others. Also, it's rare for a TE to come in and produce right away. The Vikings are looking to take it the final step this year, and improved line play will help that with Cousins at the helm.

[Virgil]

Patriots are on the clock 

@aristocrat

[billspro]

45 minutes ago, wppete said:

 

With 29th pick the Jaguars select:

Will Hernandez, G, UTEP

 

Jags continue to build the O-Line. Hernandez fits perfect with the heavy run offese led by Fournette. 

 

That is a heck of a pick late in round 1

[Virgil]

11 minutes ago, billspro said:

 

That is a heck of a pick late in round 1

 

I think other owners assumed he was already drafted 

[billspro]

13 minutes ago, Virgil said:

 

I think other owners assumed he was already drafted 

Ya for sure, he seems to be the consensus #2 olineman. Maybe Wynn would challenge him on some draft boards. 

[wppete]

6 minutes ago, billspro said:

Ya for sure, he seems to be the consensus #2 olineman. Maybe Wynn would challenge him on some draft boards. 

 

He is a solid Guard and fits the jags. I was also thinking about WR for the Jags. DJ Moore, Maryland or Sutton, SMU. 

[billspro]

28 minutes ago, wppete said:

 

He is a solid Guard and fits the jags. I was also thinking about WR for the Jags. DJ Moore, Maryland or Sutton, SMU. 

 

Yeah, I have DJ Moore going to them in my mock right now. But if they had a shot at Hernandez they would have to take it. 

[GunnerBill]

14 hours ago, 1billsfan said:

 

The college game isn't producing them in their top programs. In 3-5 years, half the league will be running college offenses. The QB position will become an athletic point guard and they'll have shorter careers than the traditional 10-15 years. That's how I view it.

 

 

 

You have to win in the NFL from the pocket. That will never, ever change. It is why Russell Wilson was a hit and RGIII was a bust. One could play from the pocket as well as all the things he could do outside and one couldn't. 

 

Jackson as a pocket passer right now is borderline NFL level but he is still on the upswing so there is a chance he gets there at some point. If you draft him and are willing to sit him (the Bills will need their guy ready by week 6) then Jackson down the line has a chance to maybe be that guy. 

11 hours ago, Mr Wild said:

Obviously the most anticipated pick of the draft

 

With the 25th pick the Tennessee Titans select  HAROLD LANDRY, BOSTON COLLEGE

 

1/4th of the Titans sacks came from there OLB position last year. But our two starters, Brian Orakpo and Derrick Morgan, are both over 30 and are free agents at the end of the year so we are filling a much needed hole with this pick.

 

The Falcons and @Watkins101 are on the clock

 

I have mocked this pick all offseason. If Landry is there he is a perfect fit for TEN.

 

Well played sir. 

11 hours ago, Mr Wild said:

The big question in this thread is how far is Josh Jackson going to drop?

 

 

Not far enough. 

10 hours ago, aristocrat said:

 

you don't have any idea what system the bills win run.  neither do i.  no wentz will be running the system that made him an mvp which was a different system than foles ran that made him super bowl mvp. my point is not qb is exactly the same and you must run the system that allows him to be most successful. 

 

It wasn't a totally different offense. They were doing plenty of RPO with Wentz too. The just dialled up more of that and less of the full field reads for Foles after watching him try and make full field reads in that atrocious Dallas game. 

[GunnerBill]

6 hours ago, billspro said:

 

Yeah, I have DJ Moore going to them in my mock right now. But if they had a shot at Hernandez they would have to take it. 

 

I have Hernandez mocked there he makes a ton of sense. I don't have him higher because I think he is a much better run blocker than pass blocker and so Wynn is the #2 interior OL for me (plus I think Wynn may still have some LT upside). 

[aristocrat]

jaire alexander cb Louisville. Patriots

[BuffaloBillyG]

Just now, aristocrat said:

jaire alexander cb Louisville. Patriots

Nice pick! Was planning on taking him at 33 if still there. 

[aristocrat]

Just now, No Place To Hyde said:

Nice pick! Was planning on taking him at 33 if still there. 

 

i was gonna go Oline but he's BPA right now IMO.  BB loves his dbs

[Virgil]

Eagles are on the clock 

@Blokestradamus

[bkep32]

1 hour ago, aristocrat said:

jaire alexander cb Louisville. Patriots

Even this board lets the patriots get the best DB in this draft fall to them.  Its amazing how even in fake drafts on a bills board that we let maurice hurst and alexander go to the patriots.  Just mind boggling 

[Virgil]

17 minutes ago, bkep32 said:

Even this board lets the patriots get the best DB in this draft fall to them.  Its amazing how even in fake drafts on a bills board that we let maurice hurst and alexander go to the patriots.  Just mind boggling 

 

You forget that we also almost drafted a 2nd QB in the first round 

[Blokestradamus]

With the 32nd selection in the 2018 NFL Draft, the World Champion Philadelphia Eagles select......

 

D.J. Moore, wide receiver, Maryland.

 

@No Place To Hyde and the 1-31 Fightin' Hue Jackson's are now on the clock.

[BuffaloBillyG]

With the first pick in Round 2, #33 overall the Cleveland Browns select:

 

Kolton Miller, OT, UCLA

 

The New York Football Giants and @whatdrought are on the clock.

 

 

[whatdrought]

With the Second pick in the Second round of the 2018 draft (34th overall) the NY footballs Giants select, Derrius Guice, RB Louisiana State University. 

 

@noplacetohyde is back on the clock with the brownies.

[BuffaloBillyG]

With the 35th pick in the NFL Mock Draft, The Cleveland Browns select Donte Jackson, CB, LSU

 

The Indianapolis Colts @kdiggz are on the clock

[KDIGGZ]

With the 36th pick in the TSW Mock Draft, The Indianapolis Colts select:

 

Sam Hubbard - DE, Ohio State

 

The Indianapolis Colts are on the board again but they need to wait a few min so they can watch some highlights on their new DE

[BuffaLoko]

Just now, Blokestradamus said:

With the 32nd selection in the 2018 NFL Draft, the World Champion Philadelphia Eagles select......

 

D.J. Moore, wide receiver, Maryland.

 

@No Place To Hyde and the 1-31 Fightin' Hue Jackson's are now on the clock.

Nice intros' @Bloke- 

Just now, whatdrought said:

With the Second pick in the Second round of the 2018 draft (34th overall) the NY footballs Giants select, Derrius Guice, RB Louisiana State University. 

 

@noplacetohyde is back on the clock with the brownies.

A good pick!  Consistent with Barkley escaping to them. ..

Edited April 8, 2018 by BuffaLoko

[KDIGGZ]

With the 37th pick in the TSW Mock Draft, The Indianapolis Colts select:

 

Courtland Sutton - WR, SMU

 

The Indianapolis Colts are pleased to get a big target at WR for Andrew Luck. They think he is a day 1 starter as they look to rejuvenate their passing game this season.

 

@CajunBillsBacker the Tampa Bay Bucs are now on the clock

[USABuffaloFan]

On 4/5/2018 at 6:10 PM, BuffaLoko said:

I get your pick! I agree that Saquon won´t make it pass NYG if they can´t trade their pick.

You agree with this pick? Do you think Buffalo needs to trade up to the top 5 for a QB? My guess is your answer is yes. Either that or you don't think the QB position is that important. This draft has 1 true #1 QB, 4 legitimate QB's for the 1st round. It has two swing the bat types with tremendous athletic ability. Why on earth would you think Cleveland wouldn't draft a QB 1st and get their exact guy they want. As great as Peterson was he never got Minnesota to the big game. Taylor is not the future. Who Cleveland grabs at QB is the question. Cleveland has more picks then the Bills. I could see Cleveland moving to pick 2 and getting 1-2 pick. Giants need much more than RB, O-line and D-line is a joke. They could use a extra 2nd pick which Cleveland is loaded with. Then Cleveland gets everything they want and Giants at 4 picks Nelson or Chubbs. Cleveland is the player here, Giants can't afford to go for RB with Eli the QB still. If Giants stay at 2 they are grabbing the QB of the future. Only reason to stay there, get so much more in a trade.  

[whatdrought]

11 minutes ago, USABuffaloFan said:

You agree with this pick? Do you think Buffalo needs to trade up to the top 5 for a QB? My guess is your answer is yes. Either that or you don't think the QB position is that important. This draft has 1 true #1 QB, 4 legitimate QB's for the 1st round. It has two swing the bat types with tremendous athletic ability. Why on earth would you think Cleveland wouldn't draft a QB 1st and get their exact guy they want. As great as Peterson was he never got Minnesota to the big game. Taylor is not the future. Who Cleveland grabs at QB is the question. Cleveland has more picks then the Bills. I could see Cleveland moving to pick 2 and getting 1-2 pick. Giants need much more than RB, O-line and D-line is a joke. They could use a extra 2nd pick which Cleveland is loaded with. Then Cleveland gets everything they want and Giants at 4 picks Nelson or Chubbs. Cleveland is the player here, Giants can't afford to go for RB with Eli the QB still. If Giants stay at 2 they are grabbing the QB of the future. Only reason to stay there, get so much more in a trade.  

 

Wow. Thank you for all of these 100% true facts. Much appreciated 

[USABuffaloFan]

On 4/5/2018 at 6:54 PM, joesixpack said:

The jets still select josh Allen.

I personally think Cleveland will go Allen 1st overall, they have time to groom with Taylor. Taylor has a big arm and is accurate, he has things he could teach Allen, Allen can run too. They give Giants what they want so they don't get stupid and select RB. Cleveland will pick 2 also and get Barkley. Giants get pick 4, pick 32 (pretty much like a 1st pick)  and a 4th rounder . Now the Giants can fix either line (Nelson or Chubbs) and get next best back top of the 1st round. I say QB will be there at 34 for them in Rudolph. 

18 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

 

Wow. Thank you for all of these 100% true facts. Much appreciated 

NO PROBLEM. 

On 4/5/2018 at 8:14 PM, Domdab99 said:

 

I never said it wasn't a decent QB class. Is it better than average? Probably. But I don't think it is worth trading up and giving away a lot of picks for one of those QBs.

 

...You guys really do like spouting BS, you know that? 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You have changed your tune. I started a post over a month ago after Bills traded to 12th pich and said, "With the 12th pick Bills select" . You blasted me telling me no way Bills would move to 12th and stay there. They have to move up and get their QB. What changed?         

 

"Actually, they can only get one very good player. They did not trade up to 12 to pick Lamar Jackson. They're going to move up further. "

Edited April 8, 2018 by USABuffaloFan

[billspro]

1 hour ago, No Place To Hyde said:

With the 35th pick in the NFL Mock Draft, The Cleveland Browns select Donte Jackson, CB, LSU

 

The Indianapolis Colts @kdiggz are on the clock

 

Good pick, Jackson is legit.

[BuffaloBillyG]

19 minutes ago, USABuffaloFan said:

You agree with this pick? Do you think Buffalo needs to trade up to the top 5 for a QB? My guess is your answer is yes. Either that or you don't think the QB position is that important. This draft has 1 true #1 QB, 4 legitimate QB's for the 1st round. It has two swing the bat types with tremendous athletic ability. Why on earth would you think Cleveland wouldn't draft a QB 1st and get their exact guy they want. As great as Peterson was he never got Minnesota to the big game. Taylor is not the future. Who Cleveland grabs at QB is the question. Cleveland has more picks then the Bills. I could see Cleveland moving to pick 2 and getting 1-2 pick. Giants need much more than RB, O-line and D-line is a joke. They could use a extra 2nd pick which Cleveland is loaded with. Then Cleveland gets everything they want and Giants at 4 picks Nelson or Chubbs. Cleveland is the player here, Giants can't afford to go for RB with Eli the QB still. If Giants stay at 2 they are grabbing the QB of the future. Only reason to stay there, get so much more in a trade.  

Well, being the guy that took the pick, let me explain.

 

To me and in my eyes alone, a good fit has a lot to do with a player and his success at the next level. It's also a fact that though many pundits pit Darnold at #1 overall, I don't agree with it. Not for Cleveland. 

 

This is a team that will likely be in a lot of close games within their division alone. Turnovers are a death sentence for them. They traded a very valuable pick for Tyrod Taylor whose BEST quality is his ability to protect the ball. Tells me the Browns value ball security. That's not Darnold. I'm not a big fan of Allen #1 overall. That left Mayfield or Rosen. While Rosen may be the best overall QB in the draft, I DO question his fit in Cleveland. Not saying he wouldn't thrive, but Baker Mayfield fits what they would need. A guy with heart and fire? PERFECT for reinvigorating that fan base. Has a chance to sit in the QB room with not 1 but 2 guys that are constantly lauded as extremely professional NFL players in Taylor and Stanton. Absolutely a perfect situation in my opinion.

 

Now about Barkley at 1. As I said in the original post where I picked, had this been a typical draft, QB WOULD have gone 1. But withing the constraints of this one, Barkley was the smarter play imo.

 

I felt as if the Giants would go with one of 4 players. Darnold, Chubb, Nelson or Barkley. At 3 I figured they would go with one of Darnold, Rosen, or Allen. 

 

By picking the way I did I protected the 25% chance of losing Barkley while still having a solid chance at Mayfield (who was my first choice). And if the Jets took him, I still had Darnold, Rosen or even Allen at 4. 

 

TL;DR:

I as the Browns GM did get the exact QB I wanted as well as the top playmaker I coveted. Truth be told...on draft Day teams ALWAYS do what the "experts" say they won't.

[CajunBillsBacker]

With the 38th pick, the Tampa Bay Bucs select...

 

Sony Michel - RB - Georgia

 

@TOboy the Bears are on the clock.

[USABuffaloFan]

1 hour ago, No Place To Hyde said:

Well, being the guy that took the pick, let me explain.

 

To me and in my eyes alone, a good fit has a lot to do with a player and his success at the next level. It's also a fact that though many pundits pit Darnold at #1 overall, I don't agree with it. Not for Cleveland. 

 

This is a team that will likely be in a lot of close games within their division alone. Turnovers are a death sentence for them. They traded a very valuable pick for Tyrod Taylor whose BEST quality is his ability to protect the ball. Tells me the Browns value ball security. That's not Darnold. I'm not a big fan of Allen #1 overall. That left Mayfield or Rosen. While Rosen may be the best overall QB in the draft, I DO question his fit in Cleveland. Not saying he wouldn't thrive, but Baker Mayfield fits what they would need. A guy with heart and fire? PERFECT for reinvigorating that fan base. Has a chance to sit in the QB room with not 1 but 2 guys that are constantly lauded as extremely professional NFL players in Taylor and Stanton. Absolutely a perfect situation in my opinion.

 

Now about Barkley at 1. As I said in the original post where I picked, had this been a typical draft, QB WOULD have gone 1. But withing the constraints of this one, Barkley was the smarter play imo.

 

I felt as if the Giants would go with one of 4 players. Darnold, Chubb, Nelson or Barkley. At 3 I figured they would go with one of Darnold, Rosen, or Allen. 

 

By picking the way I did I protected the 25% chance of losing Barkley while still having a solid chance at Mayfield (who was my first choice). And if the Jets took him, I still had Darnold, Rosen or even Allen at 4. 

 

TL;DR:

I as the Browns GM did get the exact QB I wanted as well as the top playmaker I coveted. Truth be told...on draft Day teams ALWAYS do what the "experts" say they won't.

I still would want to take the QB I want, not who drops. Cleveland has the picks to get Giants second pick over anyone else. They have 4th pick and 3 second round picks. If they like Barkley that much give all your 2nd's 33,35,60,108 to Giants or next years 1st, 33 and 35 and select 1, 2 and 4. Noone has ever done that!!!!! Telling me the Giants wouldn't do that?

Cleveland gets Allen, Barkley and Chubbs. Giants have alot of needs

[NewEra]

1 hour ago, No Place To Hyde said:

Well, being the guy that took the pick, let me explain.

 

To me and in my eyes alone, a good fit has a lot to do with a player and his success at the next level. It's also a fact that though many pundits pit Darnold at #1 overall, I don't agree with it. Not for Cleveland. 

 

This is a team that will likely be in a lot of close games within their division alone. Turnovers are a death sentence for them. They traded a very valuable pick for Tyrod Taylor whose BEST quality is his ability to protect the ball. Tells me the Browns value ball security. That's not Darnold. I'm not a big fan of Allen #1 overall. That left Mayfield or Rosen. While Rosen may be the best overall QB in the draft, I DO question his fit in Cleveland. Not saying he wouldn't thrive, but Baker Mayfield fits what they would need. A guy with heart and fire? PERFECT for reinvigorating that fan base. Has a chance to sit in the QB room with not 1 but 2 guys that are constantly lauded as extremely professional NFL players in Taylor and Stanton. Absolutely a perfect situation in my opinion.

 

Now about Barkley at 1. As I said in the original post where I picked, had this been a typical draft, QB WOULD have gone 1. But withing the constraints of this one, Barkley was the smarter play imo.

 

I felt as if the Giants would go with one of 4 players. Darnold, Chubb, Nelson or Barkley. At 3 I figured they would go with one of Darnold, Rosen, or Allen. 

 

By picking the way I did I protected the 25% chance of losing Barkley while still having a solid chance at Mayfield (who was my first choice). And if the Jets took him, I still had Darnold, Rosen or even Allen at 4. 

 

TL;DR:

I as the Browns GM did get the exact QB I wanted as well as the top playmaker I coveted. Truth be told...on draft Day teams ALWAYS do what the "experts" say they won't.

Completely incorrect 

[BuffaloBillyG]

Just now, NewEra said:

Completely incorrect 

Ok. That's why Mel Kiper and Todd McShay have such perfect mock drafts...right? 

 

The "experts" ball park things. Sometimes they hit...but misses are a MUCH higher %.

 

But feel free to PM me how I'm wrong so we can keep it off this topic. 

4 minutes ago, USABuffaloFan said:

I still would want to take the QB I want, not who drops. Cleveland has the picks to get Giants second pick over anyone else. They have 4th pick and 3 second round picks. If they like Barkley that much give all your 2nd's 33,35,60,108 to Giants or next years 1st, 33 and 35 and select 1, 2 and 4. Noone has ever done that!!!!! Telling me the Giants wouldn't do that?

Cleveland gets Allen, Barkley and Chubbs. Giants have alot of needs

And you completely missed my point. This isn't a typical mock draft. It's a no trade. Within the framework of the system I got my top QB and playmaker. Again, if you wish to discuss actual draft please PM me and we can continue there!

[TOboy]

The Chicago Bears are proud to select CB Isaiah Oliver.

[Bing Bong]

Got ourselves a CB run. Bills gotta get them a slot NRC corner quick

[Virgil]

Broncos are on the clock

 

@Canadian Bills Fan

[Canadian Bills Fan]

Broncos select Ronnie Harrison Safety. Alabama

[Virgil]

Raiders are on the clock 

 

@RyanC883

[BuffaLoko]

4 hours ago, USABuffaloFan said:

You agree with this pick? Do you think Buffalo needs to trade up to the top 5 for a QB? My guess is your answer is yes. Either that or you don't think the QB position is that important. This draft has 1 true #1 QB, 4 legitimate QB's for the 1st round. It has two swing the bat types with tremendous athletic ability. Why on earth would you think Cleveland wouldn't draft a QB 1st and get their exact guy they want. As great as Peterson was he never got Minnesota to the big game. Taylor is not the future. Who Cleveland grabs at QB is the question. Cleveland has more picks then the Bills. I could see Cleveland moving to pick 2 and getting 1-2 pick. Giants need much more than RB, O-line and D-line is a joke. They could use a extra 2nd pick which Cleveland is loaded with. Then Cleveland gets everything they want and Giants at 4 picks Nelson or Chubbs. Cleveland is the player here, Giants can't afford to go for RB with Eli the QB still. If Giants stay at 2 they are grabbing the QB of the future. Only reason to stay there, get so much more in a trade.  

@USABF, my comment is in regards to what transpired in this mock draft, not what I think would be convenient for the real team, however I appreciate your analysis as well.

[RyanC883]

In the second round, the Raiders select Mike Hughes--CB--Central Florida.  @section122 is on the clock.  

[Virgil]

Dolphins are on the clock 

@section122