OldTimer1960 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 The Patriots threat - it is real and a at least will force the Bills into taking a QB no later than 12 or they will be shut out of even the 2nd tier QBs. I like what McDermott and Beane are doing, but I think that they have been out maneuvered by both the Jets and Pats. Pats might not move ahead of them, but they have removed the possibility of taking a position player at 12 and hoping to get a QB at 22, let alone hoping to get a QB In round 2. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, Ga boy said: I agree that BB wants him some Rudolph. If we don't move up, or it we don't get Mayfield at 12, then he'll jump in front of us to get him some Rudolph. BB doesn't want Mayfield, he wants him some Rudolph. IF we get our QB, BB will get him some Rudolph. He will be smirking in private. Why?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 1 hour ago, MTBill said: They need a LT - I suspect that is who they are moving up for... And will be looking to grab a QB - they draft one every season I think. Maybe Rudolph. I think they want an OT and perhaps McGlinchey from Notre Dame is the target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ga boy Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said: The Patriots threat - it is real and a at least will force the Bills into taking a QB no later than 12 or they will be shut out of even the 2nd tier QBs. I like what McDermott and Beane are doing, but I think that they have been out maneuvered by both the Jets and Pats. Pats might not move ahead of them, but they have removed the possibility of taking a position player at 12 and hoping to get a QB at 22, let alone hoping to get a QB In round 2. IF Bills pass on Rudolph at 12, Pats will get him soon thereafter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 The Pats aren't trading into the top 10 for Chubb etc. Belichick is leaving, neither Brady or Gronk have even confirmed that they are coming back for another season. They are working together to leverage against the HC. Things are very much a mess at Patriots Place. I'm sure the Krafts realized they need a QB for Josh because Brady has changed his tune on that playing until 45 talk. The Krafts aren't going to want to fall on their face without Belichick, they are going to do everything they can to right the wrong of Jimmy G. Look for them to go after Allen. They will sit him for a year and trust Josh to mold him into a superstar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Just now, YoloinOhio said: Why?? Because he needs to replace on pretty QB with another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said: The Patriots threat - it is real and a at least will force the Bills into taking a QB no later than 12 or they will be shut out of even the 2nd tier QBs. I like what McDermott and Beane are doing, but I think that they have been out maneuvered by both the Jets and Pats. Pats might not move ahead of them, but they have removed the possibility of taking a position player at 12 and hoping to get a QB at 22, let alone hoping to get a QB In round 2. I hate the Patriots, Cooks is not worth giving up the 23rd pick, Rams are so stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said: I like what McDermott and Beane are doing, but I think that they have been out maneuvered by both the Jets and Pats. How have they been "out maneuvered" by the Pats*? Folks need to lay off on the conspiracy pills. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Ga boy said: IF Bills pass on Rudolph at 12, Pats will get him soon thereafter. Um... good? This is the guy everyone hates... 7 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said: The Patriots threat - it is real and a at least will force the Bills into taking a QB no later than 12 or they will be shut out of even the 2nd tier QBs. I like what McDermott and Beane are doing, but I think that they have been out maneuvered by both the Jets and Pats. Pats might not move ahead of them, but they have removed the possibility of taking a position player at 12 and hoping to get a QB at 22, let alone hoping to get a QB In round 2. 22 is still before 23 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 4, 2018 Author Share Posted April 4, 2018 OH NO!!!!!! It's happening..... Adam SchefterVerified account @AdamSchefter 2S 2seconds ago Text from source close to the Giants: Receiving lots of interest from the Patriots now that they have double 1’s and double 2’s in upcoming NFL Draft: http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/23019268/new-england-patriots-potential-trade-with-the-new-york-giants … 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 1 minute ago, aceman_16 said: How have they been "out maneuvered" by the Pats*? Folks need to lay off on the conspiracy pills. Until this deal, it was at least plausible to think the Bills could nab a great non-QB prospect at 12 and then come back at 22 or a bit earlier to get a 2nd tier QB in Rudolph, Jackson - possibly including White and Lauletta. Now that door has been essentially shut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ga boy Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Why?? I think BB thinks he is forcing us to go QB before at 12 or earlier. He doesn't want us to think that we can wait until 22 to get Rudolph. In fact, he wants the option to jump into the teens to get Rudolph. So he gets Rudolph, and we spend all of our draft capital on a high-risk rookie. BB is the master puppeteer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 12 minutes ago, Captain Murica said: Has to be Donald; he trains against a man literally trying to stab him with knives. I like Donald but find me a DT that got a 100 million dollar contract and tell me which team is glad they paid him instead of let him walk. Between the epic Suh failure, Dareus staying on the weeeeeed, Watt's injuries, none of these guys have been worth the money. hopefully Donald can stay healthy and break the trend. Don't bring up Fletcher Cox his defense let up 500 yards to Brady in the SB. DT should be a rotational position and limited resources should be spent on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 1 minute ago, OldTimer1960 said: Until this deal, it was at least plausible to think the Bills could nab a great non-QB prospect at 12 and then come back at 22 or a bit earlier to get a 2nd tier QB in Rudolph, Jackson - possibly including White and Lauletta. Now that door has been essentially shut. I understand where you are coming from BUT before this deal nothing excluded ANYONE else doing the same things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Ga boy said: I think BB thinks he is forcing us to go QB before at 12 or earlier. He doesn't want us to think that we can wait until 22 to get Rudolph. In fact, he wants the option to jump into the teens to get Rudolph. So he gets Rudolph, and we spend all of our draft capital on a high-risk rookie. BB is the master puppeteer. Isn’t that what Rudolph is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Um... good? This is the guy everyone hates... 22 is still before 23 If Pats want a QB ahead of 22, they certainly have the ammo to move ahead of Bills if they are willing to get into a bidding war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ga boy Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said: Until this deal, it was at least plausible to think the Bills could nab a great non-QB prospect at 12 and then come back at 22 or a bit earlier to get a 2nd tier QB in Rudolph, Jackson - possibly including White and Lauletta. Now that door has been essentially shut. Bingo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 1 minute ago, OldTimer1960 said: If Pats want a QB ahead of 22, they certainly have the ammo to move ahead of Bills if they are willing to get into a bidding war. This scenario never even seemed like something the Bills wanted to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ga boy Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Isn’t that what Rudolph is? Did you forget that they have the GOAT, and we've got nutin honey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 1 minute ago, aceman_16 said: I understand where you are coming from BUT before this deal nothing excluded ANYONE else doing the same things. Absolutely true, but many here have over-valued the Bills' draft "capital" - other teams have near as much and *might* drive the cost of a QB to ridiculous levels that a team can never recover from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, Ga boy said: I think BB thinks he is forcing us to go QB before at 12 or earlier. He doesn't want us to think that we can wait until 22 to get Rudolph. In fact, he wants the option to jump into the teens to get Rudolph. So he gets Rudolph, and we spend all of our draft capital on a high-risk rookie. BB is the master puppeteer. Everyone already knows the Bills want to draft a QB as high as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Ga boy said: Did you forget that they have the GOAT, and we've got nutin honey? Just cause they have brady doesn’t make Rudolph less risky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, Commonsense said: The Pats aren't trading into the top 10 for Chubb etc. Belichick is leaving, neither Brady or Gronk have even confirmed that they are coming back for another season. They are working together to leverage against the HC. Things are very much a mess at Patriots Place. I'm sure the Krafts realized they need a QB for Josh because Brady has changed his tune on that playing until 45 talk. The Krafts aren't going to want to fall on their face without Belichick, they are going to do everything they can to right the wrong of Jimmy G. Look for them to go after Allen. They will sit him for a year and trust Josh to mold him into a superstar. Brady already said he is coming back as has BB. Gronk it has been reported in numerous places he is coming back next year. They are NOT going after one of the top 4 QBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Just now, OldTimer1960 said: Absolutely true, but many here have over-valued the Bills' draft "capital" - other teams have near as much and *might* drive the cost of a QB to ridiculous levels that a team can never recover from. This isn't true at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Decoys are expensive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 16 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said: The Patriots threat - it is real and a at least will force the Bills into taking a QB no later than 12 or they will be shut out of even the 2nd tier QBs. I like what McDermott and Beane are doing, but I think that they have been out maneuvered by both the Jets and Pats. Pats might not move ahead of them, but they have removed the possibility of taking a position player at 12 and hoping to get a QB at 22, let alone hoping to get a QB In round 2. Pretty sure The Bills are not exactly a focal point of the Pats moves... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Ga boy said: Did you forget that they have the GOAT, and we've got nutin honey? He’s either good or he isn’t. If he isn’t he’s another mallet, etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Murica Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Commonsense said: I like Donald but find me a DT that got a 100 million dollar contract and tell me which team is glad they paid him instead of let him walk. Between the epic Suh failure, Dareus staying on the weeeeeed, Watt's injuries, none of these guys have been worth the money. hopefully Donald can stay healthy and break the trend. Don't bring up Fletcher Cox his defense let up 500 yards to Brady in the SB. DT should be a rotational position and limited resources should be spent on it. He'll more than likely get that dollar amount, but I rather have a stud DT than a first round WR that is on his third team in 5 years. Fletcher Cox and Kawann Short are two DTs that received big contracts and their teams are not regretting it. Edited April 4, 2018 by Captain Murica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 A 1st round bidding war for Mason Rudolph? I'd like the Bills to lose that war. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 8 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: OH NO!!!!!! It's happening..... Adam SchefterVerified account @AdamSchefter 2S 2seconds ago Text from source close to the Giants: Receiving lots of interest from the Patriots now that they have double 1’s and double 2’s in upcoming NFL Draft: http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/23019268/new-england-patriots-potential-trade-with-the-new-york-giants … You got me you son of a gun! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 8 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said: Until this deal, it was at least plausible to think the Bills could nab a great non-QB prospect at 12 and then come back at 22 or a bit earlier to get a 2nd tier QB in Rudolph, Jackson - possibly including White and Lauletta. Now that door has been essentially shut. Say what? So you think that 8 QB's are going within the top 21 picks? 2 minutes ago, aristocrat said: Just cause they have brady doesn’t make Rudolph less risky Exactly. That made no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 10 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: OH NO!!!!!! It's happening..... Adam SchefterVerified account @AdamSchefter 2S 2seconds ago Text from source close to the Giants: Receiving lots of interest from the Patriots now that they have double 1’s and double 2’s in upcoming NFL Draft: http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/23019268/new-england-patriots-potential-trade-with-the-new-york-giants … 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 They will jack up the price of anything that we attempt to do. They make a living feeding on dumb GM's, still cannot believe the Rams gave up pick 23 for Cooks. Nothing good can come of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ga boy Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Everyone already knows the Bills want to draft a QB as high as possible. I see the scenario that our Bills get shut out of the highly touted ones, and would like to use 22 on Rudolph as plan D, E or F. The master chess player has checked us on that. Also, BB wants Rudolph like Tiger wants another green jacket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 If beane is reacting to bb moves we are a screwed. He needs to stick his plan and build the squad 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: Brady already said he is coming back as has BB. Gronk it has been reported in numerous places he is coming back next year. They are NOT going after one of the top 4 QBs. Simply not true. http://www.nbcsports.com/boston/tom-e-curran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threedollabills Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Moving up for Rudolph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: A 1st round bidding war for Mason Rudolph? I'd like the Bills to lose that war. I'm 100% sure they are not going for Rudolph, they are fishing for a bigger prize. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dma0034 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 The Pats will offer 2 1sts and 3 2nds for #2. They'll probably do that and toss in Gronk for OBJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Threedollabills said: Moving up for Rudolph Rudolph is not the QB BB is in love with. It’s another second tier school QB he likes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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