If we keep Tyrod I will still love my Bills

[Cygnus99]

I like Tyrod he is a good person and may not be the best quarterback but he does have some great talents at times . If he stays with Buffalo I will still support the Bills no matter what happens . Try to think positive . Last year we were 9-7 and made it to the playoffs 

This year let's go for 10-6 ( still second place ) and win at least a playoff game 

GO BILLS ! 

[Thurman#1]

Me too.

 

I love them even when they make mistakes.

 

But we see last year differently. I have no interest in the playoffs. Didn't last year either. I want this team to be competitive for a Super Bowl title. Nothing less means squat to me. Last year's team was not good enough to be competitive for a title and frankly I wish they had lost more games instead and improved their draft position. 

 

I'm glad for people who feel this was a monkey off their back. My monkey is still there and will be till we're truly an excellent team.

Edited March 1, 2018 by Thurman#1

[Victory Formation]

14 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said:

Me too.

 

I love them even when they make mistakes.

 

But we see last year differently. I have no interest in the playoffs. Didn't last year either. I want this team to be competitive for a Super Bowl title. Nothing less means squat to me. Last year's team was not good enough to be competitive for a title and frankly I wish they had lost more games instead and improved their draft position. 

 

I'm glad for people who feel this was a monkey off their back. My monkey is still there and will be till we're truly an excellent team.

Crawl before you walk, walk before you run.

 

Playoffs are just a stepping stone, but necessary to winning a Super Bowl. I want consistent playoff appearances, eventually we'll get in. Got to establish a winning culture and a winning environment at One Bills Drive.

[KingRex]

9 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said:

Me too.

 

I love them even when they make mistakes.

 

But we see last year differently. I have no interest in the playoffs. Didn't last year either. I want this team to be competitive for a Super Bowl title. Nothing less means squat to me. Last year's team was not good enough to be competitive for a title and frankly I wish they had lost more games instead and improved their draft position. 

 

I also want to win an SB and agree that Tyrod is not the QB  likely to cause that to happen.  However, since I am afraid this TEAM  will need to walk before they run, that this squad is too old and needs to replace too many key parts that trading away draft resources to move and grab some alleged franchise QB like Darnold or either Josh is the wromg road to take to win the SB as soon as we can.

 

For me, I endorse following the Pittsburgh model of build a winning team first using our magnificent draft resource to get a startind DT (or 2), an LB, an OL guy )ort 2) and even a back-up RB.

 

Keep Tyrod as part of a low turnover run first (and second) O. Try to train up Peterman, but if he isn't the guy draft a QB like Big Ben when they won the SN and go for it all in 2019.

 

Tyrod or not, this TEAM is not ready to win it all.

[Seanbillsfan2206]

If there were ever a time in history that I would have said “I’m done with this team” it would have been when they let Bruce, Andre, and Thurman go all at the same time. They’ve made a ton of decisions that I haven’t agreed with over the years. At the end of the day this team is in my blood and I will never be able to just walk away. 

 

[Klaista2k]

Tyrod sucks.

Why can't some people see this? 

 

 

 

Edited March 1, 2018 by Klaista2k

[Thurman#1]

51 minutes ago, KingRex said:

I also want to win an SB and agree that Tyrod is not the QB  likely to cause that to happen.  However, since I am afraid this TEAM  will need to walk before they run, that this squad is too old and needs to replace too many key parts that trading away draft resources to move and grab some alleged franchise QB like Darnold or either Josh is the wromg road to take to win the SB as soon as we can.

 

For me, I endorse following the Pittsburgh model of build a winning team first using our magnificent draft resource to get a startind DT (or 2), an LB, an OL guy )ort 2) and even a back-up RB.

 

Keep Tyrod as part of a low turnover run first (and second) O. Try to train up Peterman, but if he isn't the guy draft a QB like Big Ben when they won the SN and go for it all in 2019.

 

Tyrod or not, this TEAM is not ready to win it all.

 

 

 

The Pittsburgh model is to be absolutely awful, go 1-13 and use the first overall pick to choose Terry Bradshaw. And then win four titles with him. Watch him get injured in his last year and only be able to play one game in 1983. Be pretty average for a few years. Draft two third-round QBs, Brister and O'Donnell. Become a really terrific team with decent QBs and yet don't draft a QB. Be very good but don't have a great QB and don't win a title. Draft Slash in the 2nd. Continue being an excellent team without a QB and continue not winning titles.

 

Then, finally, have a really bad year, go 6-10. Be lucky enough to do this when the next year's draft is the single best QB draft in history. Have the Buffalo Bills decide not to trade up in front of you to steal Roethlisberger because it was too expensive to do so. Draft the third-best QB of the class and have it turn out to be a terrific response to the stroke of luck of having a franchise guy available when your pick arrived.

 

Pittsburgh was wildly wildly lucky that they ever got in  position to draft Roethlisberger. The Bills have had the same problem for years now in that they've never been awful enough to get a single top three or four draft pick in a year when it would allow them to get a QB. The Pittsburgh model was to be very very lucky. Not a good model to follow.

 

Yeah, teams often need to walk before they run. But when you're working on reaching not the playoffs but the championship tier, your first priority every single year should be getting a franchise QB. Any time you have a chance to do that - as we appear to have this year - you do it, you bring in excellent scouts and you draft one of the guys they tell you fits your system and stands a good chance of being a franchise guy. You don't wait. You make all the sacrifices you need to make.

 

Agreed that they're not ready to win it all, Tyrod or not. But they don't have a franchise QB. Getting one is mission number one right now and forever until they do so.

[Thurman#1]

1 hour ago, NewDayBills said:

Crawl before you walk, walk before you run.

 

Playoffs are just a stepping stone, but necessary to winning a Super Bowl. I want consistent playoff appearances, eventually we'll get in. Got to establish a winning culture and a winning environment at One Bills Drive.

 

 

Yup. Crawl before you walk, walk before you run. 

 

And yeah, playoffs are a stepping stone necessary to winning a Super Bowl. So is winning one single game. So is winning a road game. So is going .500. And that's the same kind of accomplishment that "making the playoffs" is. Something you have to do, but not very important in itself. Nothing to be proud of. Nothing to agonize about. If you're worrying about making the playoffs, you're not a good team yet.

 

Consistent playoff appearances don't win you Super Bowls. There are plenty of teams through history to be consistent playoff patsies for years for the real teams. Look at the Colts after they got Luck. Three playoffs in a row but simply not a good enough team. Look at the Bengals making the playoffs six times between 2009 and 2015. Tons more examples. Making the playoffs regularly doesn't make you a Super Bowl contender. Being a really really good team is what gives you that shot.

[HOUSE]

Buffalo is my home town, if they finish in last place for 30 years that will never change my support.

I prefer ANYONE but Tyrod Taylor but, oh well, not my call.

 

[GunnerBill]

5 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

Yup. Crawl before you walk, walk before you run. 

 

And yeah, playoffs are a stepping stone necessary to winning a Super Bowl. So is winning one single game. So is winning a road game. So is going .500. And that's the same kind of accomplishment that "making the playoffs" is. Something you have to do, but not very important in itself. Nothing to be proud of. Nothing to agonize about. If you're worrying about making the playoffs, you're not a good team yet.

 

Consistent playoff appearances don't win you Super Bowls. There are plenty of teams through history to be consistent playoff patsies for years for the real teams. Look at the Colts after they got Luck. Three playoffs in a row but simply not a good enough team. Look at the Bengals making the playoffs six times between 2009 and 2015. Tons more examples. Making the playoffs regularly doesn't make you a Super Bowl contender. Being a really really good team is what gives you that shot.

 

I feel like that now.  But I did want to break the drought badly.  Partly because I'd never seen us in a playoff game.  We got in, the monkey is off our back.  If we draft a rookie who plays 12-16 games this year and go 6-10 I won't be distraught.... now it is just about building a champion and I think the Bills have been so weighed down by the drought that they were chasing, chasing, chasing for a playoff spot for too long and not stepping back and taking a long term view.  I think McDermott and Beane were long termists anyway, but they have the room to be that all the more now.  

[BuffaloBillyG]

55 minutes ago, Klaista2k said:

Tyrod sucks.

Why can't some people see this? 

 

 

 

Someone missed the point of the thread.

 

Why couldn't he see this?

[T-Bomb]

He needs to be replaced, but only when there is a QB on the roster who is:

 

1) Better

 

2) Ready to play

 

That's the only logical approach.

 

As a person, Tyrod seems like a cool guy, too bad he's not an elite QB, but that's life...

Edited March 1, 2018 by T-Bomb

[nuklz2594]

GO BILLS!!

[Klaista2k]

39 minutes ago, T-Bomb said:

He needs to be replaced, but only when there is a QB on the roster who is:

 

1) Better

 

2) Ready to play

 

That's the only logical approach.

 

As a person, Tyrod seems like a cool guy, too bad he's not an elite QB, but that's life...

Shouldn't be hard to find someone who is better and read to play.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

2 hours ago, KingRex said:

 

Tyrod or not, this TEAM is not ready to win it all.

 

This guy gets it

 

Edited March 1, 2018 by joesixpack

[White Linen]

1 hour ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

 

The Pittsburgh model is to be absolutely awful, go 1-13 and use the first overall pick to choose Terry Bradshaw. And then win four titles with him. Watch him get injured in his last year and only be able to play one game in 1983. Be pretty average for a few years. Draft two third-round QBs, Brister and O'Donnell. Become a really terrific team with decent QBs and yet don't draft a QB. Be very good but don't have a great QB and don't win a title. Draft Slash in the 2nd. Continue being an excellent team without a QB and continue not winning titles.

 

Then, finally, have a really bad year, go 6-10. Be lucky enough to do this when the next year's draft is the single best QB draft in history. Have the Buffalo Bills decide not to trade up in front of you to steal Roethlisberger because it was too expensive to do so. Draft the third-best QB of the class and have it turn out to be a terrific response to the stroke of luck of having a franchise guy available when your pick arrived.

 

Pittsburgh was wildly wildly lucky that they ever got in  position to draft Roethlisberger. The Bills have had the same problem for years now in that they've never been awful enough to get a single top three or four draft pick in a year when it would allow them to get a QB. The Pittsburgh model was to be very very lucky. Not a good model to follow.

 

Yeah, teams often need to walk before they run. But when you're working on reaching not the playoffs but the championship tier, your first priority every single year should be getting a franchise QB. Any time you have a chance to do that - as we appear to have this year - you do it, you bring in excellent scouts and you draft one of the guys they tell you fits your system and stands a good chance of being a franchise guy. You don't wait. You make all the sacrifices you need to make.

 

Agreed that they're not ready to win it all, Tyrod or not. But they don't have a franchise QB. Getting one is mission number one right now and forever until they do so.

 

What a great great post! 

[Marvlevydraftdaygenius]

I like this move.  Look we had no wide receivers this year who could break press coverage.  

2 minutes ago, White Linen said:

 

What a great great post! 

No so.  Tom Brady was a sixth round pick Rodgers slipped to the 22 pick in the draft.  You play it out.  

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

15 minutes ago, Marvlevydraftdaygenius said:

I like this move.  Look we had no wide receivers this year who could break press coverage.  

No so.  Tom Brady was a sixth round pick Rodgers slipped to the 22 pick in the draft.  You play it out.  

Wrong, wrong wrong on so many levels

 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

I will always love the Bills   I just won't be too happy about keeping the  Taylor

[Stank_Nasty]

3 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:

Me too.

 

I love them even when they make mistakes.

 

But we see last year differently. I have no interest in the playoffs. Didn't last year either. I want this team to be competitive for a Super Bowl title. Nothing less means squat to me. Last year's team was not good enough to be competitive for a title and frankly I wish they had lost more games instead and improved their draft position. 

 

I'm glad for people who feel this was a monkey off their back. My monkey is still there and will be till we're truly an excellent team.

Most teams need to see and experience the playoff atmosphere first before they make their run. I have no clue how you couldn’t be happy for the team to get playoff experience while adding draft capitol for 2018. 

 

I think last year was an absolute success for the present and the future. I’m sorry you didn’t get to enjoy it. 

 

 People that are happy about the playoff birth are also capable of thinking about the long term as well. it’s possible to enjoy last year, recognize it was a step in the right direction, and still want a Super Bowl. I literally don’t know how you can look back at last year after having a brand new staff,  the talent they unloaded, the draft capitol they got, and then the run to the playoffs they made and say.... “eh whatever. Wish we had lost more games”. IMO that’s absolutely crazy... and sorta disgusting to me honestly. I’m not trying to be a jerk. But it is to me. 

 

Losing isn’t the only way to get there man. In fact I would argue this years model is a more stable version. 

 

If a fan cant sit back and enjoy last season after 17 years I honestly don’t understand the point of watching at all. 

 

 

Edited March 1, 2018 by Stank_Nasty

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

After watching the Bills vs Jags game and watching the playoffs and Super Bowl I don't know how anyone can still want Taylor on this team. Their is no way Taylor has a chance to compete against the passing numbers put up in the playoffs/Super Bowl. The bigger the game is the more Taylor goes into safe mode, he will never elevate his game in the playoffs to carry this team. If he is not released I will be hoping Beanie and McD are fired and will donate as much as I can to the billboards advertising it.

4 hours ago, Cygnus99 said:

I like Tyrod he is a good person and may not be the best quarterback but he does have some great talents at times . If he stays with Buffalo I will still support the Bills no matter what happens . Try to think positive . Last year we were 9-7 and made it to the playoffs 

This year let's go for 10-6 ( still second place ) and win at least a playoff game 

GO BILLS ! 

I like Trent Edwards, he is a good person but he sucked.

I like JP Losman, he isa good person but he sucked.

I like Fitz, he is a good person but he sucked.

I like Taylor, he is a good person but he sucks.

Edited March 1, 2018 by Call_Of_Ktulu

[ddaryl]

I don't understand anyone who would not support the Bills if TT is our vet.

 

Might be frustrating might not be ideal but I'm never going to not support the Bills..

 

I Definitely hope we can move on however

[WhoTom]

If I were going to give up on the Bills, it would have been when they gave Jauron an extension in the interest of "continuity." I didn't ditch them then, and I won't ditch them if Tyrod is here for one more year while they put the other pieces in place.

 

[wagon127]

3 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:

Me too.

 

I love them even when they make mistakes.

 

But we see last year differently. I have no interest in the playoffs. Didn't last year either. I want this team to be competitive for a Super Bowl title. Nothing less means squat to me. Last year's team was not good enough to be competitive for a title and frankly I wish they had lost more games instead and improved their draft position. 

 

I'm glad for people who feel this was a monkey off their back. My monkey is still there and will be till we're truly an excellent team.

So was your New years Eve a miserable one? You really wish we were still talking about the drought right now? I'm sorry, I just don't believe you, that you didn't enjoy that week. The week that started when those 4:25 games kicked off on new years eve, and ended on January 7th. That week was the reason I stuck with this team for the entire drought. Was to hopefully be here for the party when it ended. Don't get me wrong, I didn't believe for a second that we would win the super bowl, but not every team that makes the playoffs is thought of as a super bowl contender. Finally something went our way. I would rather make the playoffs, then relive the Sabres tank year. I am so glad that who ever we draft this year, in this Quarterback rich draft, will never have to answer a question about the drought. I do believe that is very important.

[Ga boy]

5 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:

Me too.

 

I love them even when they make mistakes.

 

But we see last year differently. I have no interest in the playoffs. Didn't last year either. I want this team to be competitive for a Super Bowl title. Nothing less means squat to me. Last year's team was not good enough to be competitive for a title and frankly I wish they had lost more games instead and improved their draft position. 

 

I'm glad for people who feel this was a monkey off their back. My monkey is still there and will be till we're truly an excellent team.

Thurman1, you are the man.  I agree 1000%.  I'm the guy who wanted to stay with NP, even if it meant losing every game thereafter.  I think the coach wanted to as well, but gave in to the vets.  Go Bills!!

[Gugny]

I'll still love the Bills if Tyrod is the starter next year.

 

I won't spend a dime on them until he's gone ... but I'll still love 'em.

 

And no ... it's not a "protest," and I know the Bills wouldn't feel it/give a ****.  It's simply a decision I've made to not spend hundreds of dollars to go to a game and watch crap football again.

[hondo in seattle]

4 hours ago, Klaista2k said:

Tyrod sucks.

Why can't some people see this? 

 

 

 

 

I guess it depends on your definition of "sucks."

 

When you've lived through Gary Marangi, Dan Manucci, Joe Dufek, and Bruce Mathison, Tyrod doesn't seem that bad.

He's not a franchise QB of course.  But franchise QBs are rare and hard to find.  If Beane doesn't get one, Tyrod may very well start under center again.

 

And if he does, I'll root for him wholeheartedly.  

[Stank_Nasty]

9 minutes ago, Gugny said:

I'll still love the Bills if Tyrod is the starter next year.

 

I won't spend a dime on them until he's gone ... but I'll still love 'em.

 

And no ... it's not a "protest," and I know the Bills wouldn't feel it/give a ****.  It's simply a decision I've made to not spend hundreds of dollars to go to a game and watch crap football again.

I mean.... they went 6-2 at home and then snuck into the playoffs.... unless you were going to away games how much crap football did you actually catch in orchard park?

 

I got to see NY, DEN, and Miami and never walked out thinking.... man i'm not giving these guys another dime. though i'll admit i'd never drive 15 hours to a playoff game again. lets not pretend like they were awful last year or the qb played awful at home as a general rule.... that just wasn't the case.

 

oh the horror of sitting through another potential 9-7 season with our new rookie waiting in the wings to take over! kill me now!

 

all that being said. I just hope they find a reliable vet to sign in the first day or 2 of free agency before tyrods bonus is due and we can move on and then it wont get talked about anymore.... doesn't matter what vet is starting the season next year. its all about the draft and hopefully getting the guy they want.

Edited March 1, 2018 by Stank_Nasty

[Gugny]

22 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said:

I mean.... they went 6-2 at home and then snuck into the playoffs.... unless you were going to away games how much crap football did you actually catch in orchard park?

 

I got to see NY, DEN, and Miami and never walked out thinking.... man i'm not giving these guys another dime. though i'll admit i'd never drive 15 hours to a playoff game again. lets not pretend like they were awful last year or the qb played awful at home as a general rule.... that just wasn't the case.

 

oh the horror of sitting through another potential 9-7 season with our new rookie waiting in the wings to take over! kill me now!

 

all that being said. I just hope they find a reliable vet to sign in the first day or 2 of free agency before tyrods bonus is due and we can move on and then it wont get talked about anymore.... doesn't matter what vet is starting the season next year. its all about the draft and hopefully getting the guy they want.

 

I caught the DEN game, in which we got lucky via an asinine penalty call on Von Miller.  And I caught the Jets game in New Jersey, which was some of the worst football I've ever seen in my life.

 

They were awful last year and Tyrod did play horribly, as a rule, at home and on the road.

 

I'm sorry you can't see the "playoff run," for the fluke that it was. 

[Gugny]

Just now, Stank_Nasty said:

you get that this is totally false though right? 

 

5-2 record at home

 

week 1 vs jets- 262 total yds 2 td and 

 

I'm sorry, manchild.  But you're wrong.  That 5-2 record at home that you keep throwing out had little (and I'm being generous by not saying "nothing") to do with Tyrod Taylor.

 

This is an old conversation that I'm not going to continue with you.

 

Toodles.

[Stank_Nasty]

11 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

I'm sorry, manchild.  But you're wrong.  That 5-2 record at home that you keep throwing out had little (and I'm being generous by not saying "nothing") to do with Tyrod Taylor.

 

This is an old conversation that I'm not going to continue with you.

 

Toodles.

well that was a errant message that I was in the middle of. somehow my fingers hit post before any of it was done..... go look at the numbers for his home games and you literally cannot fabricate that he played bad.....

 

no need to be a complete jerk.... but I get it. its sorta your thing.

11 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

I'm sorry, manchild.  But you're wrong.  That 5-2 record at home that you keep throwing out had little (and I'm being generous by not saying "nothing") to do with Tyrod Taylor.

 

This is an old conversation that I'm not going to continue with you.

 

Toodles.

week 1 vs jets- 262 total yds, 2td, 1 int, 92 rating.... putrid right?

 

week 3 vs den- 226 total yds 2 td, 0 int, 126 rating..... another awful game right?

 

week 6 vs tampa- 321 total yds, 1 td, 0 int 96 rating..... soooo bad right?

 

week 7 vs raiders- 166 total yds, 2td, 0 int, 101 rating.... awful? not really?

 

week 9 vs NO- 56 yds, 0 td, 1int..... he seriously was awful that day for sure

 

week 12 vs pats- 65 pass yds, 0td, 1int.... again. seriously bad.

 

week 15 vs fins- 266 total yds, 2 td, 0int, 94 rating..... another awful one I guess?

 

I'm ready to move on. personally I don't care who the vet is next year. that means nothing to me becuz its all about whomever they draft and their development. but what I wont do is make false statements to prove why. maybe before being a complete jag-off you actually do some research next time.

Edited March 1, 2018 by Stank_Nasty

[Gugny]

11 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said:

well that was a errant message that I was in the middle of. somehow my fingers hit post before any of it was done..... go look at the numbers for his home games and you literally cannot fabricate that he played bad.....

 

no need to be a complete jerk.... but I get it. its sorta your thing.

week 1 vs jets- 262 total yds, 2td, 1 int, 92 rating.... putrid right?

 

week 3 vs den- 226 total yds 2 td, 0 int, 126 rating..... another awful game right?

 

week 6 vs tampa- 321 total yds, 1 td, 0 int 96 rating..... soooo bad right?

 

week 7 vs raiders- 166 total yds, 2td, 0 int, 101 rating.... awful? not really?

 

week 9 vs NO- 56 yds, 0 td, 1int..... he seriously was awful that day for sure

 

week 12 vs pats- 65 pass yds, 0td, 1int.... again. seriously bad.

 

week 15 vs fins- 266 total yds, 2 td, 0int, 94 rating..... another awful one I guess?

 

I'm ready to move on. but wont I wont do is make false statements to prove why. maybe before being a complete jag-off you actually do some research next time.

 

Cute stats.

 

You're still wrong.

[Stank_Nasty]

Just now, Gugny said:

 

Cute stats.

 

You're still wrong.

so they win... he has solid numbers..... but he played awful..... riiigghhhhtttt...... and i'm the "man-child". that's rich.

Edited March 1, 2018 by Stank_Nasty

[Gugny]

Just now, Stank_Nasty said:

so they win... he has solid numbers..... but he played awful..... riiigghhhhtttt...... this post says all it needs to about you.

 

Do you work for ESPN?

[Stank_Nasty]

4 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

Do you work for ESPN?

look at those numbers. team it with the W's.... and then with a straight face tell me he played awful at home. you were wrong. its fine. you didn't do any sort of leg work. you made a blanket statement and it was wrong. deal with it..... the irony is you calling me the "man-child"

 

dude..... it  just makes you look foolish. he didn't play awful at home as a general rule. that's the bottom line. you can not like taylor, be ready to move on and at least still be accurate and fair. 

Edited March 1, 2018 by Stank_Nasty

[Gugny]

2 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said:

look at those numbers. team it with the W's.... and then with a straight face tell me he played awful at home. you were wrong. its fine. you didn't do any sort of leg work. you made a blanket statement and it was wrong. deal with it.

 

dude..... it  just makes you look foolish. he didn't play awful at home as a general rule. that's the bottom line. you can not like taylor, be ready to move on and at least still be accurate and fair. 

 

Leg work?  I watched the games.  In three years, if you haven't figured out that Taylor's stats paint an inaccurate picture, then I really don't know what to tell you.

 

If having under 100 yards passing in most halves of games = success to you, then great.  To me -  it means the QB sucks.

 

As for the wins - you can thank the 50+ yard field goals, crappy opponents and lucky/gift INTs that happened in nearly every win.

 

The Bills won EXACTLY ZERO games BECAUSE of "how well Tyrod Taylor played."

 

There are no stats you can look up for that, I'm sorry.

 

And the fact that you're citing QB Rating ... well ... that's just silly.

 

My assessment of Tyrod Taylor is absolutely accurate and absolutely fair.

[Stank_Nasty]

3 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

Leg work?  I watched the games.  In three years, if you haven't figured out that Taylor's stats paint an inaccurate picture, then I really don't know what to tell you.

 

If having under 100 yards passing in most halves of games = success to you, then great.  To me -  it means the QB sucks.

 

As for the wins - you can thank the 50+ yard field goals, crappy opponents and lucky/gift INTs that happened in nearly every win.

 

The Bills won EXACTLY ZERO games BECAUSE of "how well Tyrod Taylor played."

 

There are no stats you can look up for that, I'm sorry.

 

And the fact that you're citing QB Rating ... well ... that's just silly.

 

My assessment of Tyrod Taylor is absolutely accurate and absolutely fair.

if you walked away from most of the home games I cited and felt he played awful. then no..... the bolded is 100% inaccurate. 

 

and just so i'm reading this right...... becuz they didn't win BECAUSE of him he played awful? I just wanna make sure we are on the same page here. plus i'd like to know just how far gone you are.

Edited March 1, 2018 by Stank_Nasty

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

11 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said:

no need to be a complete jerk.... but I get it. its sorta your thing.

 

 

you seem to like to call people jerks, it's sorta your thing.

 

you seem like a really cool kid, really cool.

 

[Stank_Nasty]

1 minute ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:

 

 

you seem to like to call people jerks, it's sorta your thing.

 

you seem like a really cool kid, really cool.

 

just you and gugs.... your gif game is always strong though i'll give you that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

carry on

Edited March 1, 2018 by Stank_Nasty

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

1 minute ago, Stank_Nasty said:

just you and gugs..... 

 

 

 

 

 

 

carry on

 

 

so did you ever answer gug when he asked if the little boy in your avatar was you?

 

little boys should be real careful who they call a jerks. but hey, it's easy to do through the internet though isn't it, little boy.