D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 I'm in favor of it if 2 conditions are met: 1. No more than a 3rd rd, a fifth with it is ok (we have 2), anything more is too much with a 1 year and 20 million contract 2. We draft a QB high(first 2 rounds) to groom for next year, I don't think we can get up high enough to get one of the guys who's ready now. The second one is tricky, it will be enticing after getting Smith to just use the picks to fill the holes I am not opposed to getting Kirk Cousins ( I don't think we will), at say 5 years/ 25 mil., and calling it good though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxy312 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: My opinion on Alex Smith is he would be a upgrade but you still need to build a very good team around him to produce. I wouldn't give up more than a 3rd for him I wouldn't give up anything for him. The Bills need to develop a franchise signal caller. They don't need another middling journeyman for the next 3-4 years and they certainly don't need to be giving up draft position if they think they do need a veteran for next year. It is absolutely pointless to put any QB on this team that's neither capable of taking you to and helping you win the Superbowl; nor capable of developing into the long term franchise guy. Anything else is circle jerk. Edited January 19, 2018 by Luxy312 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Key point re: Alex Smith - 1 year left on his contract, basically $17 million guaranteed. For a QB the quality of Alex Smith for his age 34 season, that's pretty much free agent market value, maybe a tick or two low. We'll know more when Cousins sets the 2018 market. But this is why I doubt the trade price will be very high. I'm thinking 2nd round pick, maybe low 1st at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simpleman Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 14 hours ago, horned dogs said: I'm in favor of it if 2 conditions are met: 1. No more than a 3rd rd, a fifth with it is ok (we have 2), anything more is too much with a 1 year and 20 million contract 2. We draft a QB high(first 2 rounds) to groom for next year, I don't think we can get up high enough to get one of the guys who's ready now. The second one is tricky, it will be enticing after getting Smith to just use the picks to fill the holes I am not opposed to getting Kirk Cousins ( I don't think we will), at say 5 years/ 25 mil., and calling it good though. If you are trading for him, you already get him for 3 million less for a 1 year contract. If you only want him for one year, you don't need to renegotiate. If you want him longer you renegotiate, or you wait and hope he is released and negotiate a one year contract. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 I keep going back and forth on this. After keeping it close vs. the Jags I can't help but think that a vet like Smith could have brought us deeper into the playoffs. Smith represents an upgrade over TT and is an efficient passer. But it rankles me that those KC teams were very good yet never won anything. Their offense has always been Uber conservative going back to Martyball. I always thought Reid's going there would open things up but it hasn't. Trading a 3rd or better just doesn't sit right with me for Smith regardless of the market. We know what Smith is - a very stable, efficient yet unspectacular caretaker of a QB. Smith is a dink and dunk guy who plays not to lose which frankly I've seen enough of. How many games have Smith's teams won because of Smith's play? I'd rather try our luck on McCarron or if the Giants take a QB high, trade for Davis Webb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contractkiller Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 On 1/18/2018 at 3:32 PM, 26CornerBlitz said: Key words are "this year" which makes it an aberration in comparison to his other years in the league. I am surprised no one has called you out for your constant narrative pushing agenda. you have spoken multiple times about his piss poor play in past seasons or certain bad performances as being fact and the only thing that matters, while dismissing his very good postseason personal stats, or his deep throw and passer rating which led the league last year as being just an anomaly and not counting as fact. You cannot have it both ways... the bottom line is, Alex Smith is trending upwards in every category, not descending. The nfl is a what have you done lately business, not what did you do 10 years ago. That’s why old players are constantly flushed no matter what they were 2 years prior. (See Darrell revis) Alex Smith is an upgrade in so many ways for this team it’s staggering. Our team compliments his skill set so well, and he would work very well with shady and our defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 (edited) I think OBD has a reasonable shot at Smith.......speculation is Andy is looking for a 2nd......Smith has one year left on his deal at $17 mil, so renting him for a 2nd is questionable....now if you could get him for a 3rd and an agreement in principle to add a year, that would be more palatable IMO....Smith under contract for two years to groom the new 1st round pick (I'm guessing Rudolph) and Peterman would be an ideal QB situation for Bills......was Daboll in KC with Alex?.... Year Total Liabilities Salary Cap (Projected) Cap Room 2018 $188,647,405 $181,091,343 ($7,556,062) Edited January 20, 2018 by OldTimeAFLGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 (edited) I do not think it is a going to take a lot. I think Andy Reid is going to want to do Alex Smith right. He isn't going to trade him to the Browns. He also isn't going to trade Smith to the Broncos, an AFC West rival. I know that Brett Veach is their GM, but Reid pulls the strings. There is a ton of nepotism and insider trading in the NFL. KC will do us right because we did them right with the trade down last year and by gifting them Reggie Ragland. Brett Veach, Andy Reid, Sean McDermott all have close ties and all share the same agent. KC is looking for any excuse to trade Smith so they can move on to Mahomes. My guess is that this has already been sorted out and is going to happen in the near future. We just have to offer Kansas City something respectable so they don't look bad. Edited January 20, 2018 by MrEpsYtown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 23 minutes ago, Contractkiller said: I am surprised no one has called you out for your constant narrative pushing agenda. you have spoken multiple times about his piss poor play in past seasons or certain bad performances as being fact and the only thing that matters, while dismissing his very good postseason personal stats, or his deep throw and passer rating which led the league last year as being just an anomaly and not counting as fact. You cannot have it both ways... the bottom line is, Alex Smith is trending upwards in every category, not descending. The nfl is a what have you done lately business, not what did you do 10 years ago. That’s why old players are constantly flushed no matter what they were 2 years prior. (See Darrell revis) Alex Smith is an upgrade in so many ways for this team it’s staggering. Our team compliments his skill set so well, and he would work very well with shady and our defense Why don't you explain why KC is about to move on from him despite his upward trend. You know something that Andy Reid doesn’t? Compliment his skill set? What nice things would they say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 17 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Why don't you explain why KC is about to move on from him despite his upward trend. You know something that Andy Reid doesn’t? Compliment his skill set? What nice things would they say? ....for starters, they drafted Mahomes at #10 and secondly, their cap situation ain't pretty.................... Year Total Liabilities Salary Cap (Projected) Cap Room 2018 $188,647,405 $181,091,343 ($7,556,062) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 1 minute ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....for starters, they drafted Mahomes at #10 and secondly, their cap situation ain't pretty.................... Year Total Liabilities Salary Cap (Projected) Cap Room 2018 $188,647,405 $181,091,343 ($7,556,062) Bottom line is they are ready to move on from Alex the Great for the potential of a completely unproven 2nd year QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: Bottom line is they are ready to move on from Alex the Great for the potential of a completely unproven 2nd year QB. ....and if we are the recipient of them moving on for a 3rd and an additional year agreement in principle for Smith, I'm in.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....and if we are the recipient of them moving on for a 3rd and an additional year agreement in principle for Smith, I'm in.............. That would work for me as well, but they would need to draft his eventual replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contractkiller Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 15 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Why don't you explain why KC is about to move on from him despite his upward trend. You know something that Andy Reid doesn’t? Compliment his skill set? What nice things would they say? To have a conversation. A legit conversation, It is usually wise to at least acknowledge or answer the previous post that you are quoting (since I made many) rather than just coming up with new points/questions for me to answer, as if you have never researched Alex smith before and are asking me for all the answers. That being said, Kansas city is moving on from alex smith because he lacks a week-to-week killer instinct that a QB needs... Something he NEVER had in his first few years in the league, and something he seemed to just recently develop more since Harbaugh drove into town. One week smith has a TomBrady killer instinct, and the next week, he becomes a deer in the headlights, afraid to make a play quarterback. Alex smith was always criticized for not having a deep ball as a weapon. He completely destroyed that narrative this year leading the league in deep ball accuracy, and yards with 1,344.... (Drew brees was #2).... Is alex smiths sudden threat of having a very accurate deep ball, that he threw VERY often in 2017 a product of Mahomes being drafted, threatening his position at quarterback? I would say its safe to say yes. The argument with Alex has never been can he or can't he do it. Its will he do it today, or will he not do it today. That has been the biggest gripe with smith in his more recent years since becoming a very well established NFL quarterback. The bottom line is, we don't need alex smith to be a Tom brady every week. What we need though, is the alex smith who completely dismantled the patriots earlier this year. Or the alex smith who put up 500 yards against the saints in 2011 to bring them to the NFC championship game where they lost to the eventual superbowl champion New York giants the following week (we don't want this Alex). No one here is saying Alex smith is tom brady, however stop being stupid nonetheless and come back to reality of what is, and what isn't. Our team is built to win now. Alex smith is a win now quarterback. We trade for him, while we continue to draft a quarterback for the future, because we all know these QB's are busting more than they are producing, and Alex smith gives us chances to at least compete for superbowls like he has been doing since 2011 being in the playoffs in 2011, 2012, 2013, 2015, 2016 and 2017.... Since 2011 alex smith's team has only NOT been in the playoffs once. We do not have to count 2012 if you don't want to since kaepernick took over for Alex when they were 6-2, but its safe to say those 2012 49ers were going to the playoffs regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 9 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: That would work for me as well, but they would need to draft his eventual replacement. ....NEVER meant to imply EITHER OR......he would be here for two years to groom the 1st round QB draft pick and Peterman............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, Contractkiller said: To have a conversation. A legit conversation, It is usually wise to at least acknowledge or answer the previous post that you are quoting (since I made many) rather than just coming up with new points/questions for me to answer, as if you have never researched Alex smith before and are asking me for all the answers. That being said, Kansas city is moving on from alex smith because he lacks a week-to-week killer instinct that a QB needs... Something he NEVER had in his first few years in the league, and something he seemed to just recently develop more since Harbaugh drove into town. One week smith has a TomBrady killer instinct, and the next week, he becomes a deer in the headlights, afraid to make a play quarterback. Alex smith was always criticized for not having a deep ball as a weapon. He completely destroyed that narrative this year leading the league in deep ball accuracy, and yards with 1,344.... (Drew brees was #2).... Is alex smiths sudden threat of having a very accurate deep ball, that he threw VERY often in 2017 a product of Mahomes being drafted, threatening his position at quarterback? I would say its safe to say yes. The argument with Alex has never been can he or can't he do it. Its will he do it today, or will he not do it today. That has been the biggest gripe with smith in his more recent years since becoming a very well established NFL quarterback. The bottom line is, we don't need alex smith to be a Tom brady every week. What we need though, is the alex smith who completely dismantled the patriots earlier this year. Or the alex smith who put up 500 yards against the saints in 2011 to bring them to the NFC championship game where they lost to the eventual superbowl champion New York giants the following week (we don't want this Alex). No one here is saying Alex smith is tom brady, however stop being stupid nonetheless and come back to reality of what is, and what isn't. Our team is built to win now. Alex smith is a win now quarterback. We trade for him, while we continue to draft a quarterback for the future, because we all know these QB's are busting more than they are producing, and Alex smith gives us chances to at least compete for superbowls like he has been doing since 2011 being in the playoffs in 2011, 2012, 2013, 2015, 2016 and 2017.... Since 2011 alex smith's team has only NOT been in the playoffs once. We do not have to count 2012 if you don't want to since kaepernick took over for Alex when they were 6-2, but its safe to say those 2012 49ers were going to the playoffs regardless. Alex Smith is still the same guy who will only get a team so far. His improved numbers in 2017 were a function of the improvement of Tyreek Hill, having a great TE in Kelce, and the implementation of RPO concepts with Kareem Hunt as a threat in the run game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 6 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Alex Smith is still the same guy who will only get a team so far. His improved numbers in 2017 were a function of the improvement of Tyreek Hill, having a great TE in Kelce, and the implementation of RPO concepts with Kareem Hunt as a threat in the run game. ...so give me your assessment on the Titans game......offense was humming along in the 1st hitting on all cylinders.....the 2nd yielded 3 1st downs and 41 yds......reporter asked Andy why in his presser and he got all Andy testy...."I can't get into that right now".....typical........so was it Andy?...Alex?...both?......Lebeau's D?..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 7 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Alex Smith is still the same guy who will only get a team so far. His improved numbers in 2017 were a function of the improvement of Tyreek Hill, having a great TE in Kelce, and the implementation of RPO concepts with Kareem Hunt as a threat in the run game. So your saying the guy shouldn't have weapons. Man he finally gets some help and puts up big numbers and people bash him for it. A Smith is a winner! He had a tough tough start to his career and fought bk everytime. I wouldn't mind him starting for us for a couple seasons while we properly develop a young QB. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 1 minute ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...so give me your assessment on the Titans game......offense was humming along in the 1st hitting on all cylinders.....the 2nd yielded 3 1st downs and 41 yds......reporter asked Andy why in his presser and he got all Andy testy...."I can't get into that right now".....typical........so was it Andy?...Alex?...both?......Lebeau's D?..... Combination of Kelce going out, dumb play calling by Reid, and Alex not coming through in the clutch with only a FG needed to win at the end of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Combination of Kelce going out, dumb play calling by Reid, and Alex not coming through in the clutch with only a FG needed to win at the end of the game. ...Kelce loss was big and naybe he was more of a security blanket ala TT/Clay than one would think with other significant weapons....think I'd put more blame on yet another Reid hiccup who could not counter Lebeau, the 80 yr old grand master of defense before I'd pile on Alex....still would take him in Buffalo........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringMetheHeadofLeonLett Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Really... Alex Smith Just keep rolling with Tyrod if you want Alex Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contractkiller Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 (edited) 35 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Combination of Kelce going out, dumb play calling by Reid, and Alex not coming through in the clutch with only a FG needed to win at the end of the game. KC did miss a field goal in the 2nd half which would have netted the win.. Mariota catching his own ball for a TD. KC missing a crucial 2nd half FG, Kelce going out (no flag). Tyreek Hill missing pass after pass early in the 1st half, and disappearing in the 2nd. K.Hunt league leading rusher being given the ball 11 times in a game you were leading by 3 scores, Albert Wilson missing a dime (IMO) to win the game. Andy going full post-season Philadelphia Andy... Their whole team had their worst game, at the worst possible time. Alex not coming through in the clutch is kinda BS though imo.. replay that play on 4th and 9. He dropped a DIME to wilson, wilson just choked cause of the safety (Bad play call though, you only need 9yds and your drawing up 20yard slants? wtf?) Play back KC's 2nd half drives. 1st drive = 3 and out 2nd drive = missed field goal 3rd drive = 3rd and 2, easy dropped ball from the receiver 4th drive = Dime to wilson = dropped ball (story of the day) Then the titans, their QB didnt need to be clutch, he had a RB rip off a 3rd and 10 run, in a obvious run play situation icing the game...... It wasn't some story of alex disspaering in the 2nd. It was limited opportunities, with missed, basic, easy, football chances... Edited January 20, 2018 by Contractkiller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 1 hour ago, NastyNateSoldiers said: So your saying the guy shouldn't have weapons. Man he finally gets some help and puts up big numbers and people bash him for it. A Smith is a winner! He had a tough tough start to his career and fought bk everytime. I wouldn't mind him starting for us for a couple seasons while we properly develop a young QB. This was the 1st year KC had Matt Nagy as Offensive Coordinator. He was Alex Smiths QB coach previously for his whole time in KC. People cannot tell me that KC offensive system wasn't entirely different this year compared to the previous 4. If anything, it shows Alex can still adapt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 3 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: I think OBD has a reasonable shot at Smith.......speculation is Andy is looking for a 2nd......Smith has one year left on his deal at $17 mil, so renting him for a 2nd is questionable....now if you could get him for a 3rd and an agreement in principle to add a year, that would be more palatable IMO....Smith under contract for two years to groom the new 1st round pick (I'm guessing Rudolph) and Peterman would be an ideal QB situation for Bills......was Daboll in KC with Alex?.... Negative. Daboll predates Alex Smith in KC quite a bit. He had Matt Cassel and I think Brady Quinn as his KC QB. 2 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...so give me your assessment on the Titans game......offense was humming along in the 1st hitting on all cylinders.....the 2nd yielded 3 1st downs and 41 yds......reporter asked Andy why in his presser and he got all Andy testy...."I can't get into that right now".....typical........so was it Andy?...Alex?...both?......Lebeau's D?..... IIRC Tony Dungy, in the post-game show, was very harsh on Andy Reid for his second half playcalling. He said something startlingly blunt like "if you want to get to a Championship game, you're not going to get there with Andy Reid coaching" I thought that was kind of telling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Word is that KC wants a 2nd round pick in '18 in addition to another pick in '19. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman1876 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 If I’m the Jags I’d trade my 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 I'd be fine bringing Smith in as a free agent, but I do not want to trade draft capital for him in a year that we need all the draft capital we can muster to draft a QB and/or fill the many personnel holes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 1 minute ago, MJS said: I'd be fine bringing Smith in as a free agent, but I do not want to trade draft capital for him in a year that we need all the draft capital we can muster to draft a QB and/or fill the many personnel holes. This. If he gets cut, I'd absolutely go after him. But I'm not interested in Trading a Day 1 or Day 2 pick for him to be a stop gap QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaviorPeterman Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Smith is going to be 34 in a couple of months. And even though most of the bigger name franchise QB's are still playing at a high level well into their mid/late 30's, not sure any team would be willing to give up much in a trade for Smith. I'm thinking a 4th rounder is best case. But as for the Bills I still think that they are better off rolling with Peterman that trying to land Alex Smith or another bigger name type of veteran. We still need some sort of capable journeyman to back NP up but doubt Smith would want that since he can probably start on another next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yav Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 The Bills already have a QB on the roster that's afraid to throw the ball there's no need to get a different version simply because. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaista2k Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 He's not worth anything more than a 4th at the most IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billykay Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 On 1/18/2018 at 1:35 PM, BuffaloHokie13 said: Pretty different situations. We haven't even hit the offseason yet, Smith is on the final year of his contract, and KC has his perceived successor on the roster and a year into their system and he may supplant Smith before the season starts. Minnesota experienced a catastrophic injury to their starting QB between preseason week 4 and regular season week 1. Bradford had just signed a 2 year contract, and Wentz had yet to even take a regular season snap or prep for a regular season game. K.C. isn't going to let Alex S. go for a 3rd or a 4th round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Matt_In_NH Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 The price will be based on the market and most importantly how many teams are interested. The price could be reasonable like a 2nd round pick but if there are two/three teams interested the price will get steeper. A lot of teams could be interested in trading for Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billykay Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 On 1/19/2018 at 1:18 AM, reddogblitz said: Sorry if I mischaracterized you. The only place I saw Hotrod mentioned in your post was that he's not as good as Smith and they both don't throw to WRs. As far as the bolded, how many teams will win 2 games in playoffs this year? Maybe 3. Jacksonville, maybe NE, and the winner of Eagles vs Vikes. That's a tall order. You say you would rather suck than go with a QB like Alex or Hotrod. How do you know before the season starts you'll win 2 or not so you know wether to try to win or suck? And really you have idea if Alex or Hotrod will be on teams that do. Did you think Jeff Hostetller or Trent Dilfer or Mark Rypien or Doug Williams or Jim McMahon could before they did? It's just a difference in philosophy between us. You and many others here think if you don't win the SB, the season was a failure. Shoulda sucked for a high pick instead. As for me, I want to see the Bills win games. Going to the Ralph or watching a win on TV is way more fun than losing for a high pick. All you got out of the Colts game was snow? Our slim playoff chances rested on the game and the guys totally came together and won as a team. After the punt, our D stopped them which they were having trouble doing. Then Joe freakin' Webb III hits that pass to Thompson followed by a Shady TD due in large part to a great block by Richie. That was the day I thought, you know what, we just might make it this year. That's what playoff teams do. Win tough games down the stretch. Teams of the past 17 yeas would have figured out a way to blow that game. Sorry you had such a boring December. After the 3 game slump, we won 4 out of 6 to secure a spot. How did we "lucked in"? Luck is part of the game. The Titans got a playoff win because in large part a good play by a defender ended up bouncing into his bread basket and he took it in for a TD. Luck? A lot of people say Minnesota lucked out too. It's a funny shaped ball. It bounces oddly. The Steelers totally lucked out on the Immaculate Reception. The Steelers lucked out to win a SB because Jackie Smith dropped a TD in the EZ. The Giants lucked out because because of Wide Right. It's part of the game. You just have to be able to capitalize on it. As far as Cincy, come on man, you're smarter than that (I hope). What if Joe Webb III misses on that pass, does Dalton's still get us in? what about if we don't come back from 7 down int he 4th quarter to beat the Bucs to defend our dirt at the Ralph? Does Andy's pass still get us in? I know to you it's not a good season unless you win the SB. My theory is if you make the playoffs it's good. And yes, after 17 years of back to back to back 6-10 seasons and 4-12 seasons and back to back to back 7-9 season, yes a playoff berth at 9-7 feels really sweet. Please don't worry about me though. I'm doing just fine Go BILLS !! I agree on what makes a successful season. Not perfect but simply successful. A team should always shoot for the SB but................... The owner of the NY Giants said that he considers it a successful season if they are playing for something on the last day of the regular season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman1876 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 51 minutes ago, Klaista2k said: He's not worth anything more than a 4th at the most IMO. He will get much more than that. The Jags probably feel they would be in the Super Bowl if they had Smith Instead of Bortles. If they think he can play 4 years and get them over the top they would pay a high price for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 56 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Less than Tyrod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 3 hours ago, billykay said: K.C. isn't going to let Alex S. go for a 3rd or a 4th round pick. Depends what teams offer. They may need to cut him outright due to their cap situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PromoTheRobot Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 I would not give up more than a 5th for a one year rental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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