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I am generally of the opinion that bringing Alex Smith on board and drafting a QB high would be a smart move. I think Alex Smith is a good quarterback and would have us in the playoffs until a young QB is ready to go. 

 

I was talking with my buddy, and he thinks Smith will be traded for a 1st. That seems like a heck of a price to pay, but I think he might be in more demand than we think. I originally thought (probably too optimistically) that I'd give up a 3rd. I think I could talk myself into a 2nd for him if that's what it took. 

 

1) What do you guys think he will be traded for? 2) Are you willing to make that deal?

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Less than a 1st - hes cheap but only for 1 year.  Bradford was affordable for 2 years and fetched a 1st out of desperation.  Garroppollo is younger and they got a chance to try before they "buy" - and he only got a 2nd.

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(1) I feel like I've heard a 3rd a lot. 

 

(2) The most I'd give up is a 4th I think. Edit: To clarify, that would be in a scenario where I want to do that. I don't

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A first for an aging, one year rental - not a chance unless he was the last piece needed for  a SB.

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Just another TT. No to Alex Smith

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10 minutes ago, NickelCity said:

1) What do you guys think he will be traded for? 2) Are you willing to make that deal?

 

Hopefully nothing MORE than a pound of Duff's wings (okay throw in a beer).

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Under normal circumstances I'd say he's worth a 3rd. In this case, he's a 1 year, $17M rental. 4th at best unless the deal includes an extension. I might be prone to offering a 2019 conditional pick based on starts, performance, or a playoff appearance. Something like a 2019 4th, that can become a 3rd if he starts a playoff game for us, which becomes a 2nd if he starts in a conference championship game.

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Not sure what he will go for but I hope the most we are willing to give up would be a third or maybe a 3rd with a conditional 6-7.

 

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....media speculation says Andy wants a 2nd......and he comes with a $17 mil tariff (one year left).....a 3rd and getting him to agree to a one year extension would be more suitable.....need two years with new 1st round QB pick and Peterman......

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Sorry but you guys are deluding yourself.  I am 90% certain that the very least he will be traded for is a 2nd.  Most likely a 2nd and a 3rd or 4th.

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46 minutes ago, BigPappy said:

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Just another TT. No to Alex Smith

I don't understand the comp. No way u talking bout 4000yd QB . What's Tyrod #s this yr 2600yds . That's 50% more production.  Smith is twice the QB Taylor is. 

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It'll take at LEAST a 2nd. 

Hell, the Vikings traded a 1st and 4th for Bradford...and Smith is better, stays healthy, and more consistent than him. 

Smith isn't exactly "young," but he's still only 33, and as we've seen QB's play at a high level for quite a while longer these days.  To put that in perspective, Drew Brees is 39... so imagine if we had Drew Brees from age 33-39. That's a LOT of good/great seasons from that age onward. Smith could potentially play until he's 39 as well, so there's still SOME upside, even if he isn't intended to be the long term answer.

1 minute ago, aristocrat said:

i'd rather have tyrod for nothing

 

I'd rather have a competent offense to at least give some semblance of help to our very good defense.

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53 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said:

why? He is 1-4 in the playoffs

 

Actually he is 2-5

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6 minutes ago, BigDingus said:

It'll take at LEAST a 2nd. 

Hell, the Vikings traded a 1st and 4th for Bradford...and Smith is better, stays healthy, and more consistent than him. 

Smith isn't exactly "young," but he's still only 33, and as we've seen QB's play at a high level for quite a while longer these days.  To put that in perspective, Drew Brees is 39... so imagine if we had Drew Brees from age 33-39. That's a LOT of good/great seasons from that age onward. Smith could potentially play until he's 39 as well, so there's still SOME upside, even if he isn't intended to be the long term answer.

 

I'd rather have a competent offense to at least give some semblance of help to our very good defense.

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Smith might do well in the Daboll offense, of course same could be said about several guys that should be available without giving away picks.

 

A 4th is as high as I would go. Other than that I'd wait and see if he gets released.

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Everyone realizes that he was the highest rated QB in the NFL this year right? Higher than Brady, Brees, Rodgers, all of them. A 4th?, A 3rd? I think it's going to be more than that.

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9 minutes ago, Southern Bills Fan said:

Everyone realizes that he was the highest rated QB in the NFL this year right? Higher than Brady, Brees, Rodgers, all of them. A 4th?, A 3rd? I think it's going to be more than that.

He had the best year of his career, yes. He's also the QB that went something like 19 straight games without a TD pass to a WR. He's a 1 year rental version of Case Keenum, but older and with even more mediocrity in his past.

 

EDIT: Looked it up, 21 straight games without a TD pass to a WR. I'd love to see this place even a quarter of the way through that streak...

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I'd take him in a heartbeat if it's a third or less. 2nd I gotta think about it. Yeah the playoff record ain't great.

 

My Giants fan buddy was trying to tell me it would take one first and one second this year, and a second next year. I told him he was being a real mcadoo.

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2 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:

He had the best year of his career, yes. He's also the QB that went something like 19 straight games without a TD pass to a WR. He's a 1 year rental version of Case Keenum, but older and with even more mediocrity in his past.

My opinion of him is that he would be an excellent fit here. I seem to think more of his skills than most but I believe he is vastly superior to Case Keenum.

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3 minutes ago, Golden*Wheels said:

I'd take him in a heartbeat if it's a third or less. 2nd I gotta think about it. Yeah the playoff record ain't great.

 

My Giants fan buddy was trying to tell me it would take one first and one second this year, and a second next year. I told him he was being a real mcadoo.

 

This is pretty much how I feel, although it's interesting...we have a tendency to think we can get players for less than we actually can. Fans of other teams give way different answers to what Smith will trade for compared to Bills fans I've talked to. 

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1 hour ago, NickelCity said:

I am generally of the opinion that bringing Alex Smith on board and drafting a QB high would be a smart move. I think Alex Smith is a good quarterback and would have us in the playoffs until a young QB is ready to go. 

 

I was talking with my buddy, and he thinks Smith will be traded for a 1st. That seems like a heck of a price to pay, but I think he might be in more demand than we think. I originally thought (probably too optimistically) that I'd give up a 3rd. I think I could talk myself into a 2nd for him if that's what it took. 

 

1) What do you guys think he will be traded for? 2) Are you willing to make that deal?

I am on board with you that if we can pry Alex Smith out of KC (and that should be doable) that we should.  I would go as high as a 2nd rounder and I think that is a good idea to have a rich offer as I think multiple teams will be after him and we need to be the winner.  It is a rent-a-player deal as he only has 1 year on his contract, but all that takes is money to solve.  I would have Peterman behind him to learn from him.  We coan then use our draft choices on O & D lineman.  

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